#Feedback Loop (rare joker)

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plain hornet
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Stores all of your Xmult, (so if something where to give you X2 mult it gets stored and doesnt trigger) on the final hand triggers all Xmult stored (added Xmult just stacks (so 3X plus 3X is 6X)

grizzled rock
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That's worse behavior than normal

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(except I guess for steel up to like 3 triggers)

lone karma
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Isn't it mathematically equal or even disadvantagtagous if you have multiple Xmult

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Ooo yeah steel didn't think about that

grizzled rock
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But this definitely doesn't deserve to be rare

lone karma
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No I agree. If it's only gonna be only a little better or generally worse. Then its not good

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It would be way to powerful if it multiplied the stacked mult instead but then it would at least not hurt you

grizzled rock
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Well, 2 steel with this would be 3x which is good, 3 steel is 4.5x which is really strong, but 5 steel would be 7.5x and 5 steel normally is 7.59x

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So the cross over point is 5 steel

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So this is a buff

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3 vs 2.25 for 2

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Etc

lone karma
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yeah its okay for poly chrome and and steel

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i probably wouldnt take it

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like if i had cavindish and drivers license, this would bring my Xmult from 9x to 6x per hand

grizzled rock
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One other thing is this improves the timing

mossy folio
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It’s good for playing hands where you’ll often need to use hands as discards

grizzled rock
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It is a bit minor though

mossy folio
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You get value out of those thrown away hands in the end

lone karma
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ooo actually if it multiplied them, and reset at the end of the hand it would be good

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so then its makes it so you can have plus mult and something like bloodstone

stone lagoon
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I don’t really see the point of this, if I have so many steel cards where this does something, either Mime or Steel Joker would be better

lone karma
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if it had some reworks it would be good and fun

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but as it is now its not great

rare sandal
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why y'all say this is bad?
w/o this:
Hand 1 - 2 3x mult = 9x mult
Hand 2 - Same, 9x mult
Hand 3 - Same, 9x mult
Hand 4 - Same, 9x mult

Total: 36x mult

With this joker:

Hand 1 - 9x mult is stored
Hand 2 - 9x mult is stored
Hand 3 - 9x mult is stored
Hand 4 - 9x mult + (stored) (stored) 9x mult + (stored) 9x mult + 9x mult = 9^4x mult

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and this can allow you to line up your best hand for all the Xmult effects

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wait i can't read 😭

lone karma
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yeah

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right

rare sandal
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well It is nice for lining Up the Xmult for your best hand, or getting Xmult that you can't get for your good hand (like having the 3x mult joker for 3oak but going for pairs)

lone karma
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i suppose

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i still think its to niche to be good most of the time

rare sandal
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i still like this joker tho

lone karma
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id prefer just a couple tweaks but i like it

warm phoenix
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This opens up steels and Baron to come after +mult, which is immensely helpful up to ante 8, as well as sort of pushing into this "all in" sentiment

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I like this as it's currently written, though I'd reword it to
"1x on final hand of round. Whenever Xmult would be applied, instead add it to this joker. Resets at end of round." if we want consistency with other jonklers

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(BTW, this actually INCREASES steel and Baron Xmult up to the first 5 triggers, only after 5 do we lose ground on the exponential scaling)

grizzled rock
warm phoenix
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Pre endless

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Not post

grizzled rock
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Oooh, wow that was a bad misread, sorry

warm phoenix
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No worries

lone karma
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it would be nice i suppose to make barron not a endless mostly joker

iron coyote
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Dude thats just that one joker from the Yahimod

noble beacon
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^i was about to say that lol

clever dirge
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Yahimod

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Yeah