#"Ulenspegel" (legendary joker)

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distant cape
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Lore: Also known as "Eulenspiegel", this was a trickster or joker of some sorts, half myth, probably existed. His name translates to "owl mirror". He was known to hold up a mirror to the people around him, being not only a pain in the ass but also a critic of many things of course.

Tbh, I would love if LocalThunk included this fella in any way, just because of the lore and how well it would fit in between the other legendaries. So the effect idea obviously doesn't have to be this.

Effect (idea A): Copies ability of Joker to the left and right that do not score Mult or Chips.
Maybe this could be worded better, but it's basically a blueprint that goes two-ways, but will not copy Chips, +Mult or xMult. But will copy things like Hanging Chad, DNA, Perkeo etc.

I could also see his effect may be relating to glass cards with his namesake being a mirror which mostly (nowadays) use glass.
Effect (idea B): Turns all scored cards into glass cards. Glass cards never break.
But I'm not sure, sounds a little weak for a legendary.

What are your thoughts?

outer garnet
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Cool idea

steady hawk
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I made art for this

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Prob gonna use it in my own mod tho

distant cape
pallid phoenix
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Hes showing the mirror to your hand ;)

distant cape
pallid phoenix
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I mean owls do fly,

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Nah ur right i can do something better

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Wait hes german and critizes people?

distant cape
distant cape
pallid phoenix
# distant cape lol, yep

Oh, okay, because he critizes people and shows a mirror to them, you can say it adds a copy of all scored cards to deck

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So like

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2♤ 2♡ K♡ K♡

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You get 1 2♤ 1 2♡ 2K♡

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That reflects his charecter in a really strong and unique effect

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And it shares the lesser joker counter part,
Canio -> Glass joker
Perkeo -> Cartomancer
Yorick -> Castle
Tribuleut -> photograph
Chicot -> luchador
Ulenspegel -> DNA

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Ulenspegal shouldn't be BP/BS compatiable bc adding 25 cards to your hand is silly

distant cape
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Adds a permanent copy of each scored face card to deck. could be a thing, yeah ThinkO_O

steady hawk
pallid phoenix
steady hawk
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Burnt Joker wants you to carefully discard the most optimal hand, while Yorick just wants you to go BAM BAM BAM

pallid phoenix
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Actually

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Castle closer to yorick

steady hawk
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Yeah that is so true

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Both of them favor brute force

pallid phoenix
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Honestly

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Glass joker and canio?

steady hawk
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Both of them destroy cards for Xmult

pallid phoenix
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Fair

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But

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Erosion

steady hawk
pallid phoenix
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Hold on

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I think we dum

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Bc

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Nah im not gonna worry about it

steady hawk
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Mystical Summit = Yorick!!!

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So cool...

pallid phoenix
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You can argue theres a joker that does somwthing similar to a legandary in every rarity

steady hawk
pallid phoenix
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Nah

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Its dna if dna wasnt the slowest deck fixing joker known to man kind

steady hawk
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This scales so incredibly fast

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Maybe if it didn't copy seals/editions/enhancements

pallid phoenix
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If its not bpbs compatable you wont be able to just add a million cards to your hand and printing five flushes it is possible

steady hawk
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You can

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Just

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Play 5 kings

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Gain 5 copies

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Play another 5 kings

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Rinse and repeat

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Imagine if they have glass or steel

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Money pringer

pallid phoenix
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Thats just perkeo cryptid

stiff mesa
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Perkeo Cryptid requires a lot more setup tbf

steady hawk
pallid phoenix
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Idk maybe baxk to the drawing board?

steady hawk
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What if it

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Copied all Jokers

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At once

pallid phoenix
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I took some time to consider this

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And

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I really think we need to discuss exactly how this interacts with BP/BS especially more than one BP/BS

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It also doesnt fit BP/BS theme being the creation of something or an idea

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As hes known for critizing ppl

distant cape
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Criticizing and/or just being a pain in the butt/playing tricks to get on everyones nerves.
Certainly he didn't do that to everyone, hence my idea is that he only copies jokers without Chips, +Mult or xMult.
And I think copying every possible joker in hand is a bit busted. 2 feels like juuust the right amount. And having them next to him makes for nice brain fuckery when it comes to joker placement whenever BP/BS are involved as well.
Of course I would say that he can copy BP/BS thus circumventing the "no scoring effect copy" thing. I think that's neat if you wanna do that.
But that sort of balancing is not something I consider myself to forge to perfection

loud smelt
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would it copy Idol and by extension other jokers like It? it's an Xmult effect but It makes the playing card give the mult, the Idol itself doesn't have any Xmult ability

outer garnet
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@steady hawk What site do you make the art on?

steady hawk
distant cape
distant cape
merry oasis
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how about "glass cards gain enhancement of the card to their left when scored"

distant cape
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that's.. oddly specific and I don't know how that would be useful.
it makes sense with the mirror thing but that's a about it

pallid phoenix
merry oasis
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oops i meant edition

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you're prolly right though still idk what i was thinking lmao

loud smelt
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even glass + glass, making glass give X4 mult, or copying steel when held in hand

distant cape
solid trout
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option b is my favorite

loud smelt
distant cape
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"Glass cards held in hand trigger as if played"? :0

loud smelt
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and not absurdly broken cuz they break

steady hawk
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In fact, I think that if the Glass Cards could break it would be weak enough to be an uncommon

loud smelt