#Rewording Some Verbiage Like Hand

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restive juniper
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I’ve found it very confusing at times when some cards or jokers say “in your hand” because this can mean either the cards in the hand you’re playing, OR the cards still in your “hand” that are the unused NOT played cards. IMO there needs to be a distinction. Suggested verbiage - “in your played hand” for the cards you’re playing, and “in your bench” or “in your unplayed hand” for the cards not being played that round.

velvet wasp
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I think just having the consistency of always just saying "held in hand" is good enough.

willow wasp
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yea

restive juniper
solemn perch
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not holding them

restive juniper
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So here’s a list of verbiage on jokers
-poker hand (flower pot)
-played hand (the duo and other jokers)
-held in hand (shoot the moon and other jokers)

Played hand makes sense. Poker hand also makes sense but why not just say played hand. Why’s it different verbiage? Held in hand in the most confusing because once again wtf is hand. Hand means 2 different things which means it’s a bad description

solemn perch
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But the prefix differentiates

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held means you dont play

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i dont think its terribly confusing

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if anything poker hand and played hand should just become one and that will fix most working issues

restive juniper
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I just think it could be clearer is all. I understand the difference. Held = bench.

sterile folio
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I like benched

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There is also play to refer to your played hand

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E.g: "+10 Mult if your play contains a Two Pair"

fallen badge
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I think stuff like that makes sense for just Hand

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And I feel like the game is pretty consistent with using “held in hand” to mean cards leftover, and “played” or “scored” for actually played cards. Adding in a new keyword like benched or “play” would make things confusing imo

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It’s one of those things where immediately when you notice what the card implies you know in the future, similar to how Grabber is slightly confusing but is very quick to realize

restive juniper
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I think hand is what needs to be changed really, not necessarily “held in” or “played”

naive flower
fallen badge
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Ok that’s the only one I don’t like since it’s not even accurate

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Flower Pot being lame again? Impossible

restive juniper
fallen badge
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Held in hand makes perfect sense to me I don’t see the problem with that

restive juniper
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Not worth rehashing that. I’ve said my peace

naive flower
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ah yeah, for "played and held in" that makes sense, the ones in your hand are the ones that you draw to well, your hand, then you select some and play them on the table, i imagine it as i have cards on my hand and then i put then on the table to play them

restive juniper
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So even in your example you distinguish between hand and hand by using table to explain the difference whereas I use bench to explain the difference

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Hand = bench = held
Hand = table = played

tacit cape
restive juniper
tacit cape
restive juniper
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Sure. It can be something different. That’s an example

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Nice bulbmin btw

tacit cape
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Thank you, you're like the 2nd person to know its a bulbmin and not bulborb LOL

restive juniper
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Pikmin is one of my jams

tacit cape
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Cultured individual, clearly

restive juniper
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Bulbmin are the goat

tacit cape
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I think "held in hand" could be changed to "unplayed in hand"?

naive flower
naive flower
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i think the issue with "held in hand" and "played" stems from balatro's abstract visuals, if instead of it's background we had the sprite of a table where the cards are clearly placed, there would be much less confusion

restive juniper
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I think that’s good. Would it be confusing for cards played that aren’t scored?

restive juniper
tacit cape
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This just adds "unplayed vs played vs scored"

restive juniper
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True

tacit cape
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It only sounds more natural when listed compared to the other two

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"Unplayed kings give 1.5x mult"

restive juniper
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Well balatro team if you’re reading any of this, have fun deciding what to do

tacit cape
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"Retrigger all unplayed card effects"

restive juniper
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I 100% thought baron meant kings played when I first encountered it

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I wonder if they went against using unplayed because technically all the stuff in your deck is unplayed

naive flower
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i don't think it needs rewording tbh, the tutorial makes it pretty clear, you have your hand of 8 cards, you select some, and then you play them, you get them out of your hand (as visually shown) and outside of your hand is where the cards are played, the cards you select to play leave your hand, they never become your hand

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maybe the confusion is that, thinking your hand becomes the played cards

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cuz it does say played hand

restive juniper
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Right that’s what I’ve been saying. Hand and hand are different

tacit cape
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Which is why I recommended "unplayed"

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Since it unified all them under the same hand type

naive flower
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hmm...

tacit cape
naive flower
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maybe it could be held in hand, played cards and poker hand

tacit cape
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I think the wording is fine and doesn't need a change

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But it definitely is interesting

tacit cape
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A debuffed 9 of diamonds is still part of a poker hand

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But wouldn't score

tacit cape
naive flower
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that was just suggesting to change played hand to played cards, cuz played hand refers to all played cards, poker hands refers to the ones that at least try to score

restive juniper
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So delete flower pot is clearly the solution

tacit cape
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Tbh just make flower pot 4x mult and make it on score

tacit cape
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Myb, thought you meant for "poker hand" to replace "scoring cards"

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even though that works entirely except for flower pot

restive juniper
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deletefp.exe

naive flower
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flower pot checks for poker hand cuz it wont check for unscoring cards

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its wording actually makes a lot of sense

fallen badge
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Except it’s wrong since splash works

naive flower
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oh that's fair

naive flower
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hey @restive juniper is it fine if i make a post regarding the flower pot stuff? (sry for the ping)

restive juniper
naive flower