#Piñata!!! (Common)

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fading niche
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• After idk? Rounds Sell this joker to get:

  • 1-2 standard packs (mega)
  • 1-2 planet packs (normal/jumbo/mega)
  • 1-2 tarot packs (normal/jumbo/mega)
  • 1-2 spectral pack (normal/jumbo)
  • 1 Buffoon pack (mega)

• But it gives you:(downside concepts)

  • ‐1 hand
  • ‐1 hand size
  • ‐joker slot
  • ‐4 mult and ‐50 chips
  • raises the score requirement
  • other egg

Choose 1 because I'm bad at making independent decisions fool

steady coral
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None of those upsides are worth a downside, let alone those ones

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Just make it so it gives a random jumbo pack when sold after 2 rounds

fading niche
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Thats BORINGjumping_joker

odd zenith
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Getting two packs at the same time is pretty much not a thing in base game rn unless you cash out multiple of the same skip tag at once, having it only give a single one makes sense imo

steady coral
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Yeah, I can’t imagine trading an entire hand for a single pack - black deck is barely worth it and that’s a whole joker slot

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-1 handsize also makes you insta lose the run I feel

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-1 joker slot is insane to even consider

odd zenith
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I don't hate the idea though, if you get this early game / when you have a bad joker (assuming it's cheap) it'd probably end up being a "what the hell why not" kinda thing

fading niche
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We can go with -4 mult and -50 chips tho

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Or maybe more yk

odd zenith
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But like

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Why

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This doesn't need it for balance and flavor wise it doesn't even really make sense, people don't put bad stuff in pinatas

fading niche
steady coral
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Not every joker needs a downside

odd zenith
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The reward really isn't high enough to warrant adding risk

steady coral
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The risk is you hold a useless joker for 2 rounds

odd zenith
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If anything the risk is you have one less Joker slot for two or so rounds

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Yeah

steady coral
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The risk is you might get a pointless pack

fading niche
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Yeah you are right thanks

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Well thats it. Sell this joker after like 4 rounds to get money and stuff

odd zenith
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If you're feeling like it isn't enough text, just keep in mind basically every vanilla Joker has at most three lines. Simpler is better in 99% of cases, you really don't want to start making... shudders CRYPTID JOKERS...

fading niche
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True...

empty parrot
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I like the idea of holding onto it for 3 rounds, then selling it for 2 mega standard packs

fading niche
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Whatever localthunk likes most

static sphinx
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sell this card to create 3 packs, but +20% blind requirement

fading niche
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Wowowowowowow thats A LOT BRO

static sphinx
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hm

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sell this card after 3 rounds to create 2 packs, but blind size is increased by 25%

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i think this is ok

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maybe should be uncommon

fading niche
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Make it a legendary

static sphinx
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no

upbeat briar
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Doesn't need the downsides, it's already a liability by having it in your joker slots

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Maybe have it be uncommon and create two random tags when sold after two rounds?

golden tusk
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maybe make it give a mega buffoon pack after like idk 3 rounds and have no downside

burnt cloak
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how about make it so there's like a chance of getting nothing at all

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as the downside

fading niche
burnt cloak
odd zenith
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You guys are buffing it for no reason and then saying it needs a downside to balance it out

odd zenith
# steady coral Just make it so it gives a random jumbo pack when sold after 2 rounds

I still think this is the perfect way to balance it, assuming it's cheap in the shop (Max four bucks). Simple, not broken but can definitely be useful, and just in general fits with the general feel of vanilla stuff. I can't even think of a single vanilla joker that has a defined downside anyway, I really don't know why we're acting like it needs one

severe whale
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I mean, Stuntman (-2 handsize)

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Or obelisk somewhat hut that could be taken as it's base ability (it definitely has a downside but not a defined one IMO)

odd zenith
# severe whale I mean, Stuntman (-2 handsize)

Oh I guess that’s true, forgot about that one. That’s pretty much the only one though, the rest are like obelisk which have an inherent downside based on how they function but nothing direct

severe whale
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Anyways, I think it'd be cool if it was "when sold, create a random Jumbo pack for every 2-3 rounds this has been held"

odd zenith
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AAAA

severe whale
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(I'm kidding- direct downsides do def exist but shouldn't be the focus)

odd zenith
severe whale
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Especially for a common, it shouldn't have a downside outside of taking a slot

odd zenith
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I feel like more people gotta realize you don’t need something to feel like the most unique thing ever to have it be a good idea, it just has to do something that isn’t already done by something else. (we’re ignoring wrathful and onyx agate)

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This does something simple no other joker has already done, which is perfectly fine. Nobodies complaining about juggler despite that being literally just +1 hand size.

severe whale
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Its more important to keep the 4:4 for the sins/stones than introduce smth entirely new

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ALTHOUGHHHH

odd zenith
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I personally don’t like the fact that onyx is just a direct upgrade

severe whale
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Onyx Agate should give handsize per scored clubs

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Maybe like 1:3

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Rough Gem already gives money so they don't all have to be directly scoring

severe whale
odd zenith
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Oh well I mean I couldn’t care less if there’s a joker called onyx agate, I just want it doing something unique haha

severe whale
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Do something that'd be fun for the game, not neccesarily good or bad

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Juggler isn't crazy good, but it's a simple and fun common yolker

odd zenith
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Exaaaactly

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We don’t need Jen’s Almanac jokers to make the game fun

severe whale
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It should be about how the simple mechanics interact, not introducing one that's complex on its own

odd zenith
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^^^^

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The day I see this in vanilla is the day I know we've gone off the deep end

severe whale
odd zenith
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Yeah I'm all for that interpretation of this

severe whale
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Could convince me that's a MTG card

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tho tbf i do unironically think base Cryptid does a good job at being simple mechanics done crazy

odd zenith
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I've never played base cryptid cause my one friend only plays it with jen's almanac so I don't even really know what it's supposed to look like

severe whale
fading niche
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Sooo what mr_bones

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What do I change

severe whale
odd zenith
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^

fading niche
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Finally