Unstable Market (Uncommon) $7

[outer edge]

Gold cards can give anywhere from $2 to $12 when triggered, instead of their usual amount.

A joker that gives a higher average payout for gold cards, while having a small chance to low-roll instead

[random wren]

Too high considering is 3$ at base

1 - 7?

Maybe 1-8

But 1-10 is way to much variance, and way too high-leaning

[hard compass]

I would say 2-6

[rugged ledge]

2-6 is useless when you consider Mime makes golds give $6 every time

[tame haven]

it would be 2-6 twice, which is more than 6?

lol nvm i realize what you mean

[outer edge]

Edited, anywhere from $1 to $8

[random wren]

So now it's a 2/8 for a worse outcome,
1/8 for equal, 5/8 for a better one

I think that's more fair for an uncommon

[rugged ledge]

That feels like a common then

[random wren]

I strongly disagree, it's an average earning of 2$ extra PER gold

Thats alot of money

(I'm assuming it's 1-8 per gold, not it picks 1-8 then ALL gold give that amount,) and if that's the case, there's 0 way this is a common

[random wren]

And keep in mind that "5/8 for a better reward" varies from being 1$ more to 5$ more.. or 2.66x a gold card

[slow turtle]

Consider that mime, another uncommon is objectively better, with higher expected payout on gold alone while also possessing many other applications.

This could easily be a common and give higher payout to boot.

[random wren]

The issue is with expected payout. At 1-10 the payout is 2/10 vs 1/10 vs 8/10..

The expected payout found by raising this further objectively outclasses Mime if you have more than like.. 4 gold cards

At 1-10, even if this is uncommon, it's literally just better than mime + gold

[slow turtle]

At a 1-8 payout, it was objectively worse than mime. At a 1-10 payout it is situationally worse than mime, it can be better if gold cards are plentiful and worse if other held in hand based effects are present(i.e. steel, shoot the moon, baron) 1-10 or higher is justifiable for an uncommon, lower is justifiable for a common.

Given that mime is uncommon and has a broader effect, if this is to be an uncommon, it should very much be stronger than mime for gold cards to compensate for its narrower synergy range.

[random wren]

I mean.. I kinda disagree there since this should only appear when you alr have a gold card

Otherwise i mean, fair enough

(On the narrower synergy range, an economy option should never be clearly better than another, even if they're based off the same enhancement or effect)

[slow turtle]

I disagree here, this card is made just for gold cards, of course it is going to be better with gold cards than the card that works with every held in hand effect ever.

[random wren]

Wait

[slow turtle]

Mime does more things than this does, if the economic benefits match each other, mime has more going for it

[random wren]

I misread what you said

"It should be very much stronger than mime"

Is what I thought that said

Ignore me

[onyx rapids]

So 1-8 makes this EV of $4.5 or x1.5 per gold card. Mime is x2 for gold card.

If you want this to be as good as Mime you need at least more than x2 EV to make up for the narrower synergy range, so average of bigger than $6. $1-$12 is such a range (EV $6.5), you can also do $0-$14 (EV $7).

Otherwise, mime just does everything this card does but better, and does more things.

I think this is what @random wren was getting at

But also what @slow turtle was saying

Haha, confusion

@outer edge needs to be buffed or rarity needs to be nerfed

[outer edge]

Edited again, now $2 to $12

[brisk shale]

Holy hell that’s strong

If the upper limit is $12, the lower limit should be $0 imo

[rugged ledge]

But then the EV is $6, same as Mime except less flexible

[iron pulsar]

Is this an even distribution across the outcomes or a bell curve with the center being $6?