Water + Riff-Raff Drunkard Discard | Balatro | Page 1

rich ridge Jun 2, 2025, 3:20 AM

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Basically, as I went into The Water, my Riff-Raff generated a Drunkard, which has resulted in me having a discard against The Water.
Seed is YP15QPZ1

mortal laurel Jun 2, 2025, 3:28 AM

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That’s actually really cool. I knew generating a Drunkard during gameplay would add 1 discard, but never really considered it against The Water.

I think this technically isn’t a bug but almost certainly something unintended.

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It’s somewhat akin to how burglar affects The Needle in that the boss just sets your hands to 1, and Burglar adds 3. It just normally can’t happen with discards since that’s a passive effect in all cases, except iff you generate a Drunkard/Merry Andy.

rich ridge Jun 2, 2025, 3:34 AM

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Fair, I just figured it would be better to mention it in case it is a bug. Better safe than sorry.

mortal laurel Jun 2, 2025, 3:35 AM

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Considering I’ve never seen this interaction reported, it’s a good thing you put it here

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Again, based on how generating Drunkard mid round through Judgement doesn’t feel like a bug, I don’t think this is a bug either.

If The Water was specifically coded to disable the discard feature, rather than setting discards to 0, then I think it would be a bug.

surreal briar Jun 2, 2025, 3:37 AM

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probably works with merry andy...

mortal laurel Jun 2, 2025, 3:38 AM

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Presumably, but that would be difficult to test without the debug mod

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And steamodded might change something

surreal briar Jun 2, 2025, 3:38 AM

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Yeah, I always do my bug hunting with it since my bugs require... annoying to get setups

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that or I set it up with it and then remove it all to try it without steamodded which is a hassle and a half

mortal laurel Jun 2, 2025, 3:40 AM

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Unfortunately, I don’t think debug can be used to force judgement to spawn a specific joker, which would be the only way I could see this working in a ‘vanilla’ save

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Wait, you could do it the other way

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Finding a judgement that gives Andy, then rerolling with debug to get to the water

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Still a lot of effort to see if it works

surreal briar Jun 2, 2025, 3:59 AM

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I mean

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I could just spam judgements till merry andy and set boss to water, and then boom, though idk if riff raff and judgement are same cycle, I forget

mortal laurel Jun 2, 2025, 4:01 AM

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I wouldn’t assume they would use the same cycle but I’ve never really tested it out.

rich ridge Jun 2, 2025, 4:08 AM

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I'd assume not since Judgement isn't restricted to Commons

mortal laurel Jun 2, 2025, 4:11 AM

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While that’s true, that aspect doesn’t really matter. They could share the exact same list, with riff-raff just ignoring the non commons

red kindle Jun 2, 2025, 5:18 AM

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Why would you buy a perma riff raff???

surreal briar Jun 2, 2025, 5:20 AM

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Oh wait riff raff cant even give merry andy

rich ridge Jun 2, 2025, 5:20 AM

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It was Ante 1, and for Econ

surreal briar Jun 2, 2025, 5:21 AM

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Also yeah early riff raff is insane

rich ridge Jun 2, 2025, 5:22 AM

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And there was a Spectral Pack on the shop, so I knew if I got Hex it would be even better, and I got Hex lol

red kindle Jun 2, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Why would you buy a perma riff raff??? I need to know!

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