#Visibility - a vanilla styled mod with cool ideas

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crimson karma
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This mod is a combo of a lot of ideas from me, @alpine otter and @gunnablescum!

this mod is a vanilla (ish) that also adds new jokers, new reverse tarots, editions, decks, vouchers, planets?? and more!

a lot of these ideas are from some of the sick ass art I did B)

The mod is done! 👍

https://github.com/GunnableScum/Visibility/releases/tag/demo

GitHub

The Initial Public Release of the Mod
Current additions:

46 Jokers
9 new Spectrals
2 new hand types
2 new Consumable Type (with 8 and 2 consumables respectively)
2 new Booster Pack Types (with Nor...

dull delta
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i forgot the estrogen was called that so i saw the pill and just thought there was a xan joker

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also if it comes down to it im making fat women of these

mental oracle
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Also who that joker under hangman?

crimson karma
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and the joker is monochromatic

chrome pebble
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Mmm pop tart....

tulip vigil
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mmmm

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pop tart

mental oracle
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Mmm… top part-

I mean what

crimson karma
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crazy

nova igloo
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thisooks peak

heavy shoal
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Wow, this art looks amazing 💙

ember horizon
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link?

crimson karma
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mostly going to do updates within the main discord server and here

round belfry
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what do the nuke vouchers do ?

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round belfry
crimson karma
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2 hands

round belfry
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not rly worth it really funny idea for a voucher tho

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i think 1 ante is probably fine no?

crimson karma
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No.

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I just straight up think 2 hands is powerful

round belfry
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-1 ante is powerful

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+1 is horribl

crimson karma
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When you are weak and searching for some yeah

round belfry
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just when comparing this to hieroglyph it doesn't rly make sense

crimson karma
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It's not meant to be compared with hieroglyph, sometimes I would skip on it because I think it's more logical to scale up with econ in a round with an extra hand

round belfry
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shrug ill try it out

crimson karma
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Again, it's run dependent

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But the fallout vouchers makes the boss blinds a x4

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Or 6 if I'm feeling evil

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For an extra 2 hand size

alpine otter
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I kinda agree with wog here. I feel like the warhead should have something else then +2 ante and +2 hands. If it would be maybe +1 I would agree but just using this voucher once you're almost done near ante 8 and easily win

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I feel like we could come up with something better

crimson karma
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ooooo some uhh new fellas on the board

simple patrol
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Is that lean

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sick cosmos
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The plug may have been shameless

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But it worked

crimson karma
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It sure does

crimson karma
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bricks anyone?

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i should post here more

mental oracle
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plain rapids
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the spritework on this looks really pretty so far. excited to see the release

plain rapids
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toxic sundial
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HELL YEAH MORE TETO JOKERS

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i love these jokers!!

crimson karma
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thank you thank you

plain rapids
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teto :))))

crimson karma
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i love teto

plain rapids
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real

toxic sundial
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i made the pearto partner

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and also one of the earlier teto jokers

crimson karma
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pearto as a partner is clever

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also i had to do some rework for other jokers

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because ugly blehhhh

plain rapids
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ooooooo

plain rapids
mental oracle
toxic sundial
toxic sundial
plain rapids
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joker poker balala

crimson karma
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there is a lot of stuff i have that i didn't show

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but i would rather do some recordings instead

simple patrol
ember horizon
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when

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its been so long

crimson karma
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great minds think alike

ember horizon
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just let them get it from the buffoon packs

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no need to show off

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(unless thats how they are obtained)

crimson karma
ember horizon
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oh ok

crimson karma
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tarots, spectrals, even jokers

ember horizon
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then why it say jokers?

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wait

crimson karma
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testing

ember horizon
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still not that great of a idea

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not trying to be mean, but making a booster pack thats just "look at all my stuff on non-new variations!" aint that great

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sorry

crimson karma
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that's literally the opposite of what i just said

ember horizon
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oops

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i thought you meant random cards of YOURS

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really sorry

crimson karma
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nah it's chill

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it's meant for random cards from anything

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as rare as spectrals boosters

thin sparrow
ember horizon
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also card types from other mods too

naive marsh
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Oh a lot of the ideas i'm reading here are very similar to ideas i've been compiling for a mod of my own, namely brick cards and reverse tarots lol

crimson karma
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sorry i just stole your ideas 😔 /j

naive marsh
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what does the ice cube joker do?

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or god himself

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ember horizon
crimson karma
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also this is the new cooked batch (still not coded in)

mental oracle
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Idk of y’all take suggestions

Obsession
Consumable slots don’t get filled (i.e. infinite slots while you have it)

But

You cannot own more than one type of consumable
-# Planets, Spectral, Tarot

ember horizon
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btw there should be a joker that swaps the trigger conditions of the left and right jokers called "blue light" (like blue on a traffic light)

mental oracle
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Perkeo diagonally left sidegrade

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What’d it be represented by

Some kind of hoarder?

crimson karma
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perhaps

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i'm in that weird middle ground of wanting to keep things a secret and not at the same time

mental oracle
crimson karma
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bars

ruby patio
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I love the art

grim nymph
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teto

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ocean void
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Btw could ya kindly pin the download link?

crimson karma
ocean void
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Okie dokie

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Best of luck Mona!

crimson karma
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thank you!!

ruby patio
alpine otter
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Holy shit this was active this whole time?

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i kinda died...

ember horizon
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@crimson karma when is the expected release date

mental oracle
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croods “in a minute!”.gif

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plain rapids
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wait will it be before or after deltarune cause i'll be busy then

crimson karma
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Maaan

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I'll also be busy playing

plain rapids
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deltarune tomorrow

alpine otter
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simple patrol
ember horizon
crimson karma
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Visibility people

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Rejoice

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A scree

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Shot

simple patrol
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mental oracle
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2 of hearts

ruby patio
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Brick

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What does brick do again

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Does it give mulr

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Things I represent mult with:
Red Xs
Doritos
Idk that's it

crimson karma
ruby patio
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Fits well

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I like the art

crimson karma
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Thank you!

stable tundra
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damnn, nice art!

crimson karma
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are you fucking kidding me

crimson karma
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this isn't a joker

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something else :3

ember horizon
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NEW TYPE!?!?

tranquil badge
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where is the file

crimson karma
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So a little treat for the future

tranquil badge
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ok

stable tundra
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stable tundra
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oh,, btw how many jokers you want to add?

crimson karma
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Uhhh enough lolll

stable tundra
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nicee, i really like this joker

crimson karma
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He likes you too

crimson karma
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i actually like the idea of guest artists! i recently got asked by someone if they want to do some card art? might do more

grave jolt
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👀

crimson karma
grave jolt
crimson karma
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i'd be happy to ^^

grave jolt
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ooh! do you have jokers that need art or should i come up with something myself? :>

crimson karma
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it would be fun to see what you can come up with!

grave jolt
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o7

ruby patio
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Add alif sticker

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/hj

sinful quest
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Vine boom

kindred cedar
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Nothing is worth the risk fr fr

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Watch bro Fool the shepards

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kindred cedar
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Or maybe Vita Carnis

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Or Greylock

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Or Angel Engine

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Or Winter of 88'

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Or Urbanspook if you're into that

crimson karma
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maybe maybe

kindred cedar
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I will PERSONALLY make the art just reference one of my obsessions 😭

crimson karma
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mimic joker

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meat jimbo

kindred cedar
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Elder Mimic Joker

kindred cedar
crimson karma
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i mean if you want to do it

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be my guest

kindred cedar
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Mostly because I am desperate for jobs

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I have nothing to do

crimson karma
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sure!

kindred cedar
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Ok I'll be backkkk!

crimson karma
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probably going to do a gangstalker from bottled sentience

kindred cedar
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Cool

kindred cedar
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kindred cedar
grave jolt
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kindred cedar
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Hell yeah we all doing Analog Horror Jokers round here

grave jolt
kindred cedar
crimson karma
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Thank you

kindred cedar
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Wait hold on I forgot the border

kindred cedar
kindred cedar
ruby patio
cunning oasis
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This is so peak

cunning oasis
grave jolt
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golbo! :D

crimson karma
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golbo!

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i.. don't fucking know who golbo is..

naive raven
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its on youtube if u wanna check it out

crimson karma
mental oracle
crimson karma
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My current emotion (this is related to the development of the mod)

crimson karma
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GUYS WE ARE SO CLOSE FOR A BETA REALSE

grave jolt
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Hypee

ember horizon
cunning oasis
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No way

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Peak is almost here

alpine otter
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We just need like 2-3 tarots and maybe some new blinds or skip tags

ruby patio
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NO WAY

plain rapids
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ruby patio
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What is this for

junior dock
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cunning oasis
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something peak i'll tell you that much

crimson karma
ember horizon
junior dock
crimson karma
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it's out! ^^

ember horizon
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEES

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YAYYYYYY

ember horizon
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idea: using a wild card with it's real suit in a flush of its kind gives this joker gives this joker some more amout of mult idk
idea: a joker/voucher that makes all consumables that have randomly selected card requiresments (ex. replica, incantation, grim, unstable's conferment) turn to SELECTED cards instead
idea: cards that select a certain rank or suit choose a RANDOM rank or suit each round

steel gazelle
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imma play this

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i just set up stemmodded today

crimson karma
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Genuinely been tweaking for 3 weeks making this

steel gazelle
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This might be the best thing I’ve played all week

crimson karma
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Hell yeah

tulip vigil
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For the newcomers, It's on Balatro Mod Manager.

sturdy lance
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this is... so peak

cunning oasis
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No way it’s here

alpine otter
cunning oasis
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ok first impressions by just looking at the collection, the wording could be more vanilla but it's still understandable

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also what

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..i dont think this is supposted to spawn here?

alpine otter
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Yeah the wording will be fixed and also the legendaries dw

tulip vigil
cunning oasis
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yeah

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cunning oasis
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Me neither but last time i checked bronze seal isnt a mitosis seal

tulip vigil
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I left that in while debugging Gum

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I'll make a hotfix in an hour tops

tulip vigil
cunning oasis
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Nice

chrome pebble
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Gonna have to try this

crimson karma
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Chat, something big is coming up

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Peak is being cooked

cunning oasis
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Peak already happened you’re late egg

visual ocean
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  1. Poptart deck is a great feature, every content mod should have a deck like this
  2. I love Golbo. I don't even care what the card does, I just know he is the best boy and will buy him always
ruby patio
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Imagine golbo as a partner

visual ocean
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Is this meant to be Clubs + Hearts?

cunning oasis
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I mean it looks like an opposite blackboard but idunno

ruby patio
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It's supposed to be black board but the opposite

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Idk why they chose 3d glasses

cunning oasis
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Looks cool

crimson karma
ember horizon
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@crimson karma EMERGENCY

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GET DOWN

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jk

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but planet cards crash the game due to you

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i tested it

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maybe?

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not sure

crimson karma
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it's morefluff

ember horizon
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is it fixed on latest ver?

ember horizon
alpine otter
ember horizon
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i literally removed it

alpine otter
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the crash log doesnt say anything about Visibility

ember horizon
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ik

ember horizon
alpine otter
tulip vigil
ember horizon
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ok

real pivot
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Hello! i got a crash when clicking desideratum. It was targeting a modded hand, so i don't know if its fixable by your end 😅 . Love the mod

visual ocean
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I don't think any of your mods there require it anyway

zealous jetty
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i forgot to mention that Crystal Ball doesnt give the spectral card when hits the chance nanoda

crimson karma
zealous jetty
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yooooo fastnoda

crimson karma
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the mod is coming along pretty well

kindred cedar
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Oh hey guys I'm a dev for this mod

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now

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You guys missed so much lore fr fr

kindred cedar
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IT'S JUST A BLOCK

cunning oasis
alpine otter
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Was there anything else?

cunning oasis
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idunno i just clicked on uh

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i forgot which one it was but i think it was a spectral card

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i didnt even get to use it

novel kelp
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Crystal Ball can't be used if your consumable slots are full

cunning oasis
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not crystal ball i think

novel kelp
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no I'm reporting an issue

cunning oasis
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exept if you're referring to a different bug

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ohh

alpine otter
tulip vigil
queen comet
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you misspelled the voucher that gives -$20 debt with debt as bept. this absolutely ruins the gameplay so much that i haven't even downloaded this mod.

zealous jetty
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my game crashed after getting this from Creamer joker

crimson karma
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We'll fix it

alpine otter
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I'm surprised it took this long for something to crash

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I was 90% sure that something like this would have happend

alpine otter
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THE FULL RELEASE IS OUT!!!

formal remnant
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Hey, I think there's a lot of good ideas in this mod, and the vast majority of it fits pretty nicely into vanilla balance. I do want to make a couple of suggestions for the purposes of balance.

-Monochromatic Joker feels extremely powerful, especially for an uncommon. Sure, it's only a 1/8, but it can snowball extremely hard if you get it and a Blueprint/Brainstorm, Oops, or Stacked Odds early on, because all it takes is one hit to alleviate a large part of the opportunity cost of taking it (or the entire opportunity cost if you got the probability boost from Stacked Odds) and then it's just pure value for no opportunity cost. I personally would suggest making it incompatible with BP/BS at the very least, to better balance the opportunity cost to value ratio.
-Negative cards are always pretty sticky to balance, since once you get one, there's nothing stopping you from proliferating it to your whole deck, and then suddenly every build is a held in hand build, unlike with jokers where negative is removed from copies. I'm not sure if it's possible, but I would recommend seeing if there's some way to remove negative from copies of the negative card, or alternatively I would suggest adding a downside to taking Denial.

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Also, not a balancing suggestion, but I feel like the wording could be better on the Atomic Bomb joker. It says "destroy all random cards in hand", but if it's destroying all cards in hand, then there isn't really anything random about the cards it's destroying. It feels like that might have been copied over from the description of Immolate and just got missed.

alpine otter
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Okay monochromatic joker being compatible with BP and BS is a bug we didn't know about. We can easily fix that. And about the negative cards I kinda agree with you. When I was making the code I found a bug where it could give a negative edition to an already negative card and I feel like that shit could balance it but I'll probably try and come up with something better. Anyway thanks for the feedback!👍

grim nymph
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uhm

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Brick Cards 😭

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can it also detect other brick cards 😭

ruby patio
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Bric

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Is rock but kooler

formal remnant
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Main issue with that would be that you would need to keep the cards remaining the same so that you don't just randomly lose if you draw too many non-negative cards in a round

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And I'm not sure how doable all of that would be from a programming standpoint

alpine otter
grim nymph
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my mod has a brick card it would be nice if there was a cross compat :>

alpine otter
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If the key is just brick then it should work

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But then also we have v_brick and you might have something else so I'm not sure

grim nymph
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i mean it is m_akyrs_brick_card

alpine otter
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Yeah no

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That won't be compatible

alpine otter
grim nymph
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i think so?

alpine otter
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Like the one where you can add negatives and pluses

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Is that you?

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Also with the words and such

grim nymph
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i think so?

alpine otter
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Well

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If it's you then

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I love the mod :3

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Really fucking impressive

grim nymph
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-# (why was i known for this lmao)

alpine otter
grim nymph
alpine otter
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Dude the mod is one of the most impressive once ever

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Yeah that

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Dude like I can't believe that is even possible

grim nymph
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i mean anything is if you try hard enough

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at least in digital realm

alpine otter
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How long did it take you to make that?

grim nymph
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the sprite took me a bit

alpine otter
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No I mean the actual mechanics of the math and such

grim nymph
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lmao someone made a math library i just plug shit together imma be real

alpine otter
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Well...

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Still cool tho

alpine otter
formal remnant
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Oh no I wasn't saying -1 hand size, I was saying -1 deck size

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Like, having a negative card in your deck lowers the effective size of your deck without actually removing a card from your deck

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That's why I figure it would probably be difficult to implement

ruby patio
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Oh I get it

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Negative cards are like ghost cards

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They don't count for hand size, yet they also don't count for deck size

formal remnant
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Well kinda, I was more saying that they would actually decrease what the game considers your deck size would be

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Like, if you added a negative card to your deck, rather than making a normal card negative, it would count as -1 card in the deck instead of +1 card

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The idea being that in vanilla Balatro, if your deck has zero cards in it, you automatically lose

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So in this case, if your deck has as many negative cards in it as it does normal cards, you would lose

kindred cedar
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PLEASE

grim nymph
crimson karma
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sleeves!

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forgot to put stuff here teehee

cunning oasis
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Pop tart

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I love how they look

naive raven
cinder sinew
mental oracle
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Sloptart

cinder sinew
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More like yumtart

simple patrol
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THE POP TART

crimson karma
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peep this

mental oracle
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Peeptart

kindred cedar
cunning oasis
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i feel like the combined effect of the poptart deck + sleeve should say "Visibility Jokers are x6 more likely to appear in the shop" instead of x3

limber field
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shore crashes on use

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i think

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because this popped up when i tried to use it

cunning oasis
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well i'm assuming it's cryptid's fault since it says SMODS Cryptid "lib_gameset.lua" crashed

alpine otter
# limber field

You do use cryptid and a lot of other mods so theres 100% something else that crashes it so not sure if we will find a fix for this

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But we can try

sinful quest
cunning oasis
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oops, must have not read that correctly haha

delicate sinew
crimson karma
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oh thanks thanks! ^^

delicate sinew
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heehee!!! this is a really great mod. I love the black market especially

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might i suggest though dropping the # of cards in divine packs from 3 and 5 down to 2 and 4?

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the vanilla game's 3 and 5 are based on the 22 available tarots and since there are only 10 divine cards, 2 and 4 might be more appropriate?

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i noticed myself getting a lot lot lot of plastic cards in my runs for example. I figure they must just be really easily accessible

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the example that made me have the thought was artbox, which has 11 of its art cards and chooses to use 2 and 4 in its packs

crimson karma
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oh yeah! that's probably because the divine cards aren't done yet

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that might be why

sinful quest
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And I'm working on adding the sleeves

delicate sinew
sinful quest
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Yeah it's still missing like 12 of them but I'm working on other things

tulip vigil
cunning oasis
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wait are the uh

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sleeves already in

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the new ones

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poptart for example

crimson karma
sinful quest
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It's going to take a while because I'm working on other projects and doing artfight

tulip vigil
# sinful quest It's going to take a while because I'm working on other projects and doing artfi...

Yeah Stickies gonna do a PR when she's done with the sleeves, for todos before next release check the newest PR, here: https://github.com/GunnableScum/Visibility/pull/8

GitHub

TODOs:

Finish JokerDisplay Cross-Mod Compatibility
Finish CardSleeves (Wait for Future PR Merge by Stickie)
Banner Bugfix (Feature request: Black Market should obey Banner restrictions #7)

sinful quest
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Sleeves soon (I just need to add heavenly and fix a checkered sleeve with gardening deck bug and some final touches)

cunning oasis
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did sleeves get added :b

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saw smth about it on the wiki

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yay :D

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they did

crimson karma
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the upcoming jokers in visibility and also concepts by both stickie, warped and me! a lot of them were posted but more :)

cunning oasis
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more visibility jokers?

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sinful quest
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Yet another joker concept coming soonegg

sinful quest
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elfin moth
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This looks insane

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Like good insane

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Insanely good?

round kestrel
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this is like the exact same joker

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my bad visibility team i was not familiar with your game

elfin moth
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-boy

crimson karma
sinful quest
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I ball often

novel kelp
round kestrel
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i have one of those too lol

delicate sinew
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hey btw. i wanted to talk about the caveman joker

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what was the reason for setting the tarot generation chance at 1 in 8

ruby patio
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Ooga booga

delicate sinew
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real

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im drawing a comparison to 8 ball. and if 8-ball is as bad as it is at 1 in 4 i cant imagine that the increased build-potential of stone cards (and the higher difficulty of acquiring them compared to 8's) really makes 1 in 8 justified

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so im curious if theres another justification for it. assuming i am missing something

crimson karma
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again, this is from my personal testing

delicate sinew
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i see i see

kindred cedar
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What

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I almost instantly pivot to 8s when I get it

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It carries runs

crimson karma
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i didn't say anything about 8 ball

kindred cedar
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Oh

kindred cedar
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Like, reeeallll good

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So many Tarot Cards

crimson karma
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they said nothing about magic 8 ball

delicate sinew
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based i guess
agree to disagree

kindred cedar
limber field
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tried playing a pair and the game crashed

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also i just installed unjankify gonna see if it still happens after removing that

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it doesnt happen without unjankify?? hold on let me reinstall it

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and now it doesnt happen with unjankify reinstalled?

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will report the crash if it happens again

final viper
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Guess I'll go ahead and forward the announcement?

crimson karma
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thank u ^^

valid valley
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Well at least we know it's already a mod being incorporated into the Collage modpack

gentle solstice
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Visibility: Hey can I copy your homework?
Ortalab: Sure, just make it look different so that it doesn't look like you just copied it.
Visibility: Sure thing

final viper
gentle solstice
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I didn't said this as a bad thing

final viper
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Alright then, it just sounded that way to me

crimson karma
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also that's like the most common idea anyone can come up with

valid valley
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I've literally only seen it from those two mods lol

cunning oasis
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same

valid valley
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Extra booster pack vouchers on the other hand...

cunning oasis
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WAITER, WAITER!! MORE ARTBOX REFERENCES PLEASE!

empty geyser
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I figure this still works

crimson karma
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yup

empty geyser
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I got try it because looks fun, is the balatro mod manager up to date or should get from github

empty geyser
final viper
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Figured I'd forward the message here just in case anyone wants to know

cunning oasis
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What happened to gunnable

junior dock
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I also wanted to ask, I'm so far removed from the Balatro community atp I have 0 clue what happened

crimson karma
ruby patio
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I promised myself to see how it'd look like when a server is deleted but I completely forgot,,,,

ruby patio