Lucid? - Balatro from a Dream (Vanilla+) | Balatro | Page 1

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 2:02 PM

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Hey this is just a sort of random concept I had where it's sorta a mix of versions of normal balatro jokers and completely original jokers based around dream core/weird core concepts, the mind, and other things related to the mind and spirituality. It's probably dumb (and probably been done before) but the idea popped into my head quite literally from a dream. So if someone would wanna take this up that can code/do art I already have a few ideas for it. This mod will also include a new consumable type being Dream cards.

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 2:54 PM

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I can really only come up with ideas for this. It just seemed interesting to me at least. I'll leave this up but I doubt anyone would be interested

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Lucid? - Balatro from a Dream (I cannot code)

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Lucid? - Balatro from a Dream

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 5:25 PM

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what are the ideas?

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 5:31 PM

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The Dream Cards would be similar to Spectrals. One being lucid, which is a version of The Soul that isn't as rare as the soul but manifests a legendary joker (specifically ones from this mod when it exists) but it's a temporary one. Sorta like how memories of dreams fade?

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Another idea was a joker called Sleep Paralysis, which when 3's or Aces are played, they're destroyed and for each card destroyed it gains 0.25x mult. (In reference to sleep paralysis happening pretty commonly late at night, like 3 AM)

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There would also be new hand types since I imagine one joker would be relating to how you test if you're dreaming by counting your fingers and if you have extra then you're dreaming.

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It would either increase hand size or increase card selection

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 5:38 PM

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weary kernel Another idea was a joker called Sleep Paralysis, which when 3's or Aces are play...

easy enough to implement tbh

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 5:38 PM

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weary kernel There would also be new hand types since I imagine one joker would be relating t...

also easy to implement

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that could interact with dream cards if it gives you extra handsize

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Yeah

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Again this whole mod idea literally just came to me as a dream so most of this I'm kinda making on the spot based on that

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 5:40 PM

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id be willing to help out here and there if you get someone to do art

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 5:41 PM

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I'll be fleshing out my ideas on either a Google doc or a sheet

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Which I'll post and pin here

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 5:41 PM

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cool

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 5:52 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1paB9LSqta4Cy13kYjnkppSqsr2xP1G8O0h9hJMO4cJM/edit?usp=drivesdk

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 5:52 PM

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not public access^

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:00 PM

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weary kernel Another idea was a joker called Sleep Paralysis, which when 3's or Aces are play...

Art for this!
I recommend revising the effect for this, At least the 3s and Aces part. Feels a little too much like walkie-talkie and it kinda saps the versatility from this joker. I do like the aspect of earliness/lateness, though. Maybe this destroys the hand played when there's 0 hands remaining, but gains Xmult from it? Or some variation of that.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:02 PM

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that looks awesome!

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have you tried importing that image into the game?

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i think the dark colors dont translate very well when loading them in, had a similar problem for my mod

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so we had to brighten up the image

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:04 PM

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I don't know how to stick my own images into the game. Most I can do is open up pureref, put in a screenshot of gameplay, and then crudely stick the image on top of the screenshot.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:04 PM

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i can test it out for you right now, is that image the right size?

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71x95

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and 142x190

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Oh, I was using 69x93 / 138x186. I might have to double check the references I use.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:07 PM

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you could be right, i think theres 1px border or something

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i use 71x95 for my stuff

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Ah, that makes more sense.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:09 PM

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rough sonnet i can test it out for you right now, is that image the right size?

lmk if you want me to

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:09 PM

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Gonna tweak it a bit, then feel absolutely free to toy around with it!

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:10 PM

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sounds good, lmk when :)

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:15 PM

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Image brightened a little, plus more fx. This is 2X size.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:16 PM

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awesome, let me test

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can you send 1x size as well

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:16 PM

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Boom

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:18 PM

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yeah its far too dark in game

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would have to brighten it up a lot more

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:20 PM

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Alright time to tweak some more

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brb

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Image brightened a lot more than what my senses say to do. Shall this work?

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:26 PM

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only one way to find out

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better but maybe make joker text white?

finite island Apr 17, 2025, 6:28 PM

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As a reference for darkness campfire is the joker with the darkest colour

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:31 PM

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Made joker text much lighter. Might have to redo this one?

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:32 PM

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bottom part is going to be darkened out

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Alrighty, heres this one.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:37 PM

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looks fire

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Ah, good. Pretty noisy with the filter, though.

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 6:39 PM

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yeah i dont like how this game translates color

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 7:00 PM

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The Unknown - Uncommon
Might as well draw a bliss-style field joker.

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Obligatory eyes in the dark joker
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craggy sparrow Apr 17, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Yo @weary kernel

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 8:34 PM

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WOWZA

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Sorry I was afk was playing smash

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 8:35 PM

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weary kernel https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1paB9LSqta4Cy13kYjnkppSqsr2xP1G8O0h9hJMO4...

update link pls

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 8:35 PM

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Done

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Sorry bout that

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 8:36 PM

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nah youre good

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 8:36 PM

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rough shale Art for this! I recommend revising the effect for this, At least the 3s and Aces...

That would work as the affect for sure

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Also Fr the art is fire

rough shale Apr 17, 2025, 8:39 PM

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Thanks a bunch! Usually i don't know what to draw for jokers, but this gave me a bit of inspiration.

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 8:39 PM

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For sure I can tell you like the concept

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When I get home I'll add some of the ideas I had onto the sheet

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Okay we're obligated to make an inception reference

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 8:48 PM

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weary kernel Okay we're obligated to make an inception reference

100%

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 8:49 PM

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I'm thinking that could be a Dream card

rough sonnet Apr 17, 2025, 8:49 PM

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l e g e n d a r y j o k e r

weary kernel Apr 17, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Actually true as well

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We could either base it off the actual action of inception, or reference the movie directly

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YO WAIT could reference the spinning top.

weary kernel Apr 18, 2025, 11:36 AM

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Okay I was too tired last night. I'll try and add some during school

weary kernel Apr 18, 2025, 1:20 PM

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Okay I've worked on a few. I added sections for the cards that currently have art but no effects yet, and currently working on dream card ideas. Mostly enhancements.

weary kernel Apr 18, 2025, 1:43 PM

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Also, thinking about nightmare cards being similar to Spectrals.

weary kernel Apr 18, 2025, 2:00 PM

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Okay also the sheet access is FULLY fixed now you should be able to edit it now

weary kernel Apr 19, 2025, 3:17 AM

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Huh why cant I pin messages

rough sonnet Apr 19, 2025, 3:17 AM

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youve to get a mod to do it

weary kernel Apr 19, 2025, 3:19 AM

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Dang. Ah well, anyways. Added another joker suggestion. Despite Everything its Still Jimbo

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https://tenor.com/view/undertale-frisk-despite-everything-its-still-you-mirror-buttercup-gif-27689925

Tenor

rough sonnet Apr 19, 2025, 3:19 AM

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you can just tag them @ egg

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but i dont do it till its necessary tbh

weary kernel Apr 19, 2025, 3:20 AM

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Alright. I'll do it if this idea gets more popular, really didnt expect anyone to be too interested tbh

weary kernel Apr 21, 2025, 12:29 PM

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I say a Truman show reference is a good idea since it's similar to a dream, a fabricated reality

rough sonnet Apr 21, 2025, 6:40 PM

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I like that yeah

weary kernel Apr 21, 2025, 7:12 PM

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And I think we should also do certain mental health stuff (with respect for them ofc) but don't know what we would do for those

weary kernel Apr 21, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Like for example an Everywhere at the End of Time reference

weary kernel May 2, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Will prob just remove this pretty soon, not enough ideas and really not enough traction

rough sonnet May 2, 2025, 12:53 PM

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weary kernel Will prob just remove this pretty soon, not enough ideas and really not enough t...

Make one again after you come up with more ideas maybe?

gritty lion May 2, 2025, 12:54 PM

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weary kernel Will prob just remove this pretty soon, not enough ideas and really not enough t...

I mean a lot of mods take months to get the ball rolling, the lucky ones that do it in a matter of seemingly hours are the outliers

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 3:17 AM

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On second thought I might just lock this temporarily and reopen it when I have...hmm

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Im gonna say at LEAST:

10 Jokers
10 Dream cards
5 Nightmare Cards
8 enhancements
4 Editions

hushed hamlet May 5, 2025, 3:20 AM

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if its any motivation, the first wave i released for my mpd was maybe 6 jokers?

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i do think that trying to reduce your scope a bit and implement those first helps with not feeling disappointed in your progress

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 3:21 AM

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The MAIN issue with this getting traction is that A, I dont know how to code OR do art. Meaning that I need other people to do the work is the issue

hushed hamlet May 5, 2025, 3:21 AM

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honestly? sometjmes you can just cut corners

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like

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if you cant draw that well

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try concepting jokers that wouldnt be that hard to draw

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maybe you could trace over some photos

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 3:22 AM

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Im good at physical drawing, thats about it

hushed hamlet May 5, 2025, 3:22 AM

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and you can always aks for advice!

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you could sketch it on a physical medium and then maybe draw on top?

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if you wanted to, ofc

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 3:24 AM

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Yeah, ill figure it out

hushed hamlet May 5, 2025, 3:24 AM

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coding is a bit more daunting but if you start simple, most code is already written

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it mostly a matter of copying and pasting

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 3:26 AM

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Yeah. Im probably gonna focus on the concept art really. I can visualize the jokers pretty well its just a matter of detail really

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And im not quite sure what I want the dream/nightmare cards to look like

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Kinda crappy concept art. But Despite Everything, it's Still Jimbo

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Don't know what his outfit would be but eh. It's concept

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Also don't know if it should be joker on the sides or something like lucid

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 8:49 PM

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Okay I've decided on what dream and nightmare cards should look like. They'll have their main sprite displayed outside of the card base similar to legendaries

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Dream cards will have a pastel blue and pink color scheme

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Nightmare will have black and purple

weary kernel May 5, 2025, 10:33 PM

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I might not close this and just post concept art for the time being

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Skyfall - Played cards rank is decreased by 1 each time it is scored. This joker gains +1 mult per rank decrease. (Debating this) Either cards are destroyed after 2 is played or they go back up to Aces. Rare or Uncommon Joker.

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Mouth - Enhancement. x3 mult when scored, each time it is scored a tooth is lost with a max of 8 uses before the card is destroyed.

hushed hamlet May 5, 2025, 10:47 PM

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weary kernel Mouth - Enhancement. x3 mult when scored, each time it is scored a tooth is lost...

if this is ever implemented i can share the code i used to have dynamic sprites on an enhancement

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its not that complicated but it would speed development a bit!

weary kernel May 6, 2025, 12:51 AM

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Yeah. Im just wondering how advanced we can make it. Cause IF POSSIBLE (I doubt it?) Could be neat if the blood dripped down the gums. Just to add a little movement to it but I dunno how that would work.

rough sonnet May 6, 2025, 3:04 AM

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Also for jokers - the sprites should contain the word “joker”

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It’s in the guidelines that localthunk has for jokers

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Ultimately it’s your choice of course

weary kernel May 6, 2025, 3:04 AM

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Hmmm

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Maybe joker on one side and lucid on the other

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Or, idea, it just has to contain joker SOMEWHERE right?

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Doesn't have to be on the sides?

rough sonnet May 6, 2025, 3:06 AM

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weary kernel Or, idea, it just has to contain joker SOMEWHERE right?

Yup

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Have a look at original sprites for different placements

weary kernel May 6, 2025, 3:10 AM

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Okay so, first idea for Despite Everything, Joker in the mirror sorta faded. Like a distorted reflection type of thing.

For Skyfall, maybe in the stars.

weary kernel May 10, 2025, 2:20 AM

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Feels like im kinda running out of ideas for now

weary kernel May 31, 2025, 3:39 AM

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Lucid? - Balatro from a Dream (Vanilla+)

weary kernel Jun 13, 2025, 1:03 PM

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Concept art and color idea for the DREAM cards

weary kernel Jul 14, 2025, 7:26 AM

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ALRIGHT GOOD NEWS

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I'm gonna be working on the jokers when I get back home

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Thanks to joker forge to make it a lot easier. I won't have art for them (unless the art has already been made by someone else)

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I don't mind if nobody really sees this (after all I'm currently in Europe so my timezone is messed up rn) but when I get home I will implement the jokers that I CAN implement

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Only using joker forge because I don't wanna learn how to code, aka I'm lazy

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Will need help with the consumables, enhancements, and editions. As well as art (cause I suck at it)

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Otherwise, most jokers can be made

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I have to thank anyone that's kept track of the mod at all, or contributed any art

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Hopefully more people will find this mod and want to assist at all.

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Okay 2 more joker ideas are on the sheet.

Dental Work (Uncommon) - Mouth cards no longer lose uses when played, but lose uses when unplayed. Mouth cards now only give x1.75 mult.
(Referencing how you have to take care of your teeth to keep them from falling out.)

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Lofty Aspirations (Uncommon)- Destroy each discarded Jack, this joker gains x0.1 chips for every Jack destroyed this way.
(Referencing how people have dreams and aspirations that are usually bigger than themselves, and have them discarded after never realizing them)

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One more

Circadian Rhythm (RARE)- Retrigger all jokers on 1st and 4th hand of round.
(Based on the concept of how the day and night affect when we should sleep, how phones ruin that rhythm, and rhythm relating to keeping time in music with accented 1st and 4th beats)

weary kernel Jul 15, 2025, 7:36 AM

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Okay I'll be returning home today

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I'll be working on the mod when I get home to my PC

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Also. I had a slight idea for a new type of consumable called a Daydream card. It would be similar to a skip tag, but can be bought in the shop and acts as an effect you can activate in a pinch during the actual blind/boss blind

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Some would be tag effects (reroll boss blind, gain money for every discard/hand, etc.) or sometimes beneficial boss blind effects (after every play or discard, draw 3 cards)

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They would be the size of a square joker and go in slots on the right side of the screen, which turns transparent when not hovering over them.

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This might be the most complicated idea to implement, and I have no idea how I myself would do it. I still also need to get a GitHub page up for this mod and figure out how the hell to make the actual mod files

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But, this is all for me to figure out when I get home. I'm really hoping more people come to this mod since it's just a really neat idea. I mean I'm almost shocked nobody has used dreams/the mind as a mod yet

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In theory I want this to be similar size to Ortalab and the like

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And also get a lot of help from other people.

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Don't know why I'm sending so many messages here but I think I just want this to get...noticed? I dunno. Anyways probably gonna add a few more things to the sheet and here

weary kernel Jul 19, 2025, 5:05 PM

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ALRIGHT! I am currently working on a Github page, as well as working on some of the jokers.\

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weary kernel Jul 19, 2025, 5:54 PM

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WOO HOO!

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So joyous

weary kernel Jul 19, 2025, 6:12 PM

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Had to change the effect slightly to gains x0.1 mult for each card destroyed to make the scaling correct

weary kernel Jul 22, 2025, 4:11 AM

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Also technically the GitHub page is made, however I'm gonna wait to make it public until I have a decent beta version of the mod up (A few of the consumables/enhancements, more than 10 jokers.)

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I don't know if anybody's actually gonna be looking at this mod but what the hell. I'm gonna try and have fun making it. That's the best thing I can do. Even if people don't use it, it'll be a fun challenge. Plus it'll then basically just be a personal mod for myself

elfin basalt Jul 25, 2025, 7:16 AM

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howdy im a guy that play balro

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I'll send in bulk the things i made but @weary kernel do you want me to send both scales?

weary kernel Jul 25, 2025, 7:17 AM

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Sure

elfin basalt Jul 25, 2025, 7:19 AM

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before i do would you want them in one sheet png or seperate?

weary kernel Jul 25, 2025, 7:20 AM

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Separate.

elfin basalt Jul 25, 2025, 7:21 AM

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here ye go

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also this guy

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scale x2

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the mouth is a strip image

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idk if you need all of the frames as separate images or not

weary kernel Jul 25, 2025, 7:29 AM

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I have no real idea how we'll code that. Might have to get you to figure out Lua code real fast.

weary kernel Aug 21, 2025, 8:44 PM

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MASSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THIS MOD!!!!! Jokerforge just came out with the enhancements and seals update so it's official. We will be able to OFFICIALLY release an early version of the mod very soon

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I know nobody is paying attention to this mod but still I thought that I should share that news

manic raft Aug 21, 2025, 9:04 PM

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hmm

elfin basalt Aug 21, 2025, 9:23 PM

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I don't know about very soon but with enough momentum of ideas things look good

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A lot of jokers still need art but their functionality is mostly implemented

weary kernel Aug 22, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Yerp

weary kernel Aug 22, 2025, 11:44 PM

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Basically, in an undetermined amount of time, an early version will exist

weary kernel Oct 29, 2025, 1:41 PM

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THE BALL IS ROLLING UP

elfin basalt Oct 29, 2025, 1:43 PM

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Wha?

weary kernel Oct 29, 2025, 2:56 PM

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You heard me

elfin basalt Oct 29, 2025, 2:57 PM

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Well you got me there

weary kernel Oct 29, 2025, 2:57 PM

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I'm the best

elfin basalt Oct 29, 2025, 2:57 PM

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He's the best

weary kernel Oct 29, 2025, 2:57 PM

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But anyways the announcement was that after a few jokers are finished with art, and a few more consumables exist, then this mod can go into a proper playable state

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Also the goofball above me is essentially the co-dev for this mod

elfin basalt Oct 29, 2025, 2:59 PM

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Yuh huh

snow jay Nov 12, 2025, 8:04 PM

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Is this still being updated?

weary kernel Nov 13, 2025, 5:19 AM

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Being worked on

snow jay Nov 13, 2025, 5:20 AM

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because eagerly awaiting it looks very interesting

weary kernel Nov 13, 2025, 5:21 AM

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Oh glad you like it!

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Currently we're planning a timeline of sorts where we update things in batches

snow jay Nov 13, 2025, 5:29 AM

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well I ashall await

weary kernel Nov 13, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Current plans include on a pseudo beta release, multiple jokers, some of the consumables. The consumables are gonna probably be the Utility ones, and some of the enhancements

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works started on figuring out Seals, we're thinking of them being Eyeball related.

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On top of this, its possible we'll try and figure out music since we do want the packs to have a different vibe to them.

snow jay Nov 13, 2025, 9:16 PM

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Oh wow your packing a lot into this, I am totally hook

weary kernel Nov 14, 2025, 2:42 PM

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Don't know if you saw it but we do have a suggestions sheet if you want to add any ideas to this

weary kernel Nov 14, 2025, 3:45 PM

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And it's also fine if you want to suggest changes to some things already on there

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From a balancing perspective I mean

snow jay Nov 14, 2025, 4:35 PM

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Absolutely let me look

weary kernel Nov 14, 2025, 6:02 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1paB9LSqta4Cy13kYjnkppSqsr2xP1G8O0h9hJMO4cJM/edit?usp=drivesdk

Google Docs

Lucid Sheet

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Resending just in case

snow jay Nov 14, 2025, 9:17 PM

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Oh it here

weary kernel Feb 24, 2026, 2:32 AM

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THIS MOD IS STILL BEING WORKED ON

#Lucid? - Balatro from a Dream (Vanilla+)