Team RWBY Jokers and Card set (WIP, NEED HELP)

[hidden blade]

hello every one, im currently making a 4 (maybe 5) joker set that is meant to work with base game jokers, i want them to be balanced but as a first time editor and Modder, who knows.

what id do know if i have plans for all cards involved except for one. my problem is codding them. iv never coded in my life and it is scary as all hell. im not asking for someone to do it for me (it would be nice and i will pay) but i at lest want help to do one of the cards if that does happen so i can say i did something. what i really want is someone to help walk me through a card codding. i do have visual studio code downloaded. i have watched someone make a joker on YT but again, for someone who has 0 knowledge, its intimidating.

so! here are the cards and my thoughts on them

Ruby: add a red seal to each card scored, gain .5x mult per card with a red seal

Weiss: if first hand contains one card, gain 2 copy of that card . Gain 5$ every time a card has been copied

Blake: gain a copy of a consumable card as a negative when selecting a blind.. Gain 1xmulti for every negative consumable held

Yang: destroy first hand, Gain 1xmult per card destroyed.

Team rwby: trigger all cards in hand with a seal/element. if all 4 team members are active jokers, x10multi

edit: yes i know the cards has to be 95x71 pixels. resizing is no issue for me

edit edit: yes cards are made by AI, but has been cleaned up by hand, the ai misspelled joke on the right side of the card so i cleaned them off. you can tell on Weiss if you look hard enough

[graceful parrot]

the fact that i knew it was ai on the fucking preview 😭

[hidden blade]

Yeah I can't draw for shit. But to me they look really good.

[graceful parrot]

right

[hidden blade]

I'm gonna have to spoof up ruby, I just noticed her cape looks bad. I did good on blake and yang thought. Not much I can do better for weiss.

[paper forge]

@hidden blade can you explain about your mod in short

[graceful parrot]

As a language training model-

[paper forge]

@hidden blade got ruby kinda working u wanna see?

@hidden blade NOW IT FULLY WORKING 🔥

(I used a random red texture for now)

[hidden blade]

So yes and no

Yes: adding the red seal...YES THANK YOU!! 😊

No: I wanted ruby to have the multiplier. Not the cards themselves. So if ruby has a .5 multiplier per red seal. And you have 4 red seals, she gives you x2 multiplier at the end when it calculates the score. If that makes since

Also...THANK YOU FOR EVEN WORKING ON THIS. SERIOUSLY THIS MEANS ALOT TO ME ^^^^<^^

[paper forge]

Let me fix that,

Do you want me to continue with other jokes and how much u willing to pay?

[hidden blade]

Name a price. And let me fix blake and yang real quickly

[paper forge]

25, if you want me to make a real good ruby and other characters texture I will take 40

[paper forge]

What you fixing it?

Are you^

[hidden blade]

40 per or 40 all together?

[hidden blade]

Already did it. So blake no longer effects jokers (seemed to op) and yang now destroys first hand played instead of one card

[paper forge]

All together ofc 😅

[paper forge]

Owh wait!

So you have created yang and Blake cards already?

[hidden blade]

40 all together!!! I'll pay you Thursday!!

And no. Just the text above to show what I wanted them to do

No cards are made. I can't code >.<

[paper forge]

No worries, rn I still don't have PayPal yet, maybe you can get a giftcard, I will take Playstation US Gift card

[paper forge]

Let me start making and if you need anything to be fixed let me know

[hidden blade]

I will. I'll give you the gift card when I can! Thank you 😊

[gaunt glen]

Ya gotta start somewhere mate

Im guy thatdraws his stuff on mspaint and it be lookin pretty nicely so tools aint a issue

[paper forge]

Is this correct 💀 or @hidden blade

[hidden blade]

No. So the card should not be adding multiplier. Only the joker. The joker gains multiplier based on how many red seals you have.

The two 8's you played first hand. Two red seals. At .5 growth means ruby would be at a 1 multiplier. You then played 3 aces. That would set ruby's multiplier at 2.5 since there is 5 red seal cards that you have. Only the joker should be doing the multiplier at the very end.

[hidden blade]

No tools is not an issue. I agree. My problem is I can't draw stick figures. I'm not a good imagative person. I can't draw, nor do I want to draw. I can edit which is what I did. You can give the nicest stuff to anyone and tell them to draw. But you can't expect a masterpiece just because they have the best equipment. You have to know how to use that equipment on which I do not

[hidden blade]

I'll give another example. I'm looking to have ruby like the "steel joker" but for red seals while adding red seals

Same thing with blake. Her joker card gains multiplier based on how many negative consumable you have. Same with yang, her joker gains multiplier based on how many cards are destroyed. Then the last card, team rwby joker, that jokers 10x multiplier only works of all four other cards is active/collected. So the multiplier should only be working at the end when everything is tailed and ready to have the multiplier....multiplied. if that makes since

[gaunt glen]

I feel like you have self stem issues to work throught, im happy to help, like every single menber in my family has said "you arent born knowing" even in my moments of obsession and insanity ive realized that it doesnt matter if soneone more talented and skilled exists, whats important is that they are not you and only you can do your things

[hidden blade]

And drawing is not my thing. It's not a passion I desire. I play games and hopefully for a living soon. That's what I'm good at.

[gaunt glen]

And yet you tell yourself a thounsand reasond you cant

If you simply cant why would you write so many obstacles agaist you?

You might not be able to tell a horse to drink, but you are no horse but a man, you see your reflection yet relentsly stomp on it

Why is that?

Also im curious what do you mean by playing games for a living?

[hidden blade]

Because I want to learn things that intress me. Drawing does not intress me. Codding does but I'm never going to use it except maybe once or twice unless I wake it my job which is something I don't want.

[gaunt glen]

Mmmmmmm i can think of a compromise

The yugioh fellow doesnt draw neither

[hidden blade]

I want to become a vtubber. I'm setting money aside so have a model done and rigged. That way I can chat, chill, play games, make friends, and make somone smile or forget about reality for alittle while.

It's a dream. A goal. My main goal? I want to be the next male member of vshojo. It looks impossible but I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it.

I want to go to conventions and have human connections with people, i want to be able to make others smile and make memories for people like one person did for me, but I'm doing my way. I have a plan. I have a goal.

[gaunt glen]

Cant you like

Do something regular first?

Like you arent some nepo baby you gotta jetset your life

It is noble or whstever but streamers like vinny joel or jerma werent planning on it ya know

Im friends with this guy who became an alcoholic due to havin this dream big mindset of destiny

[hidden blade]

I have a job. I work as a garbage guy on the back of a truck. I have a regular job and a regular life. But I want to do something I enjoy.

If it fails, oh well, at lest I tried. But I'm giving it my all. Now, can we please stop this therapy session. This is supposed to be about a balatro mod. Not me

[gaunt glen]

Ah im sorry

Back on the balatro mod you could do what the yugioh guy did

[hidden blade]

I don't know what he did

[gaunt glen]

Basicslly he downsized the artwork to fit inside the cards

Ima send you a template when i get home

[hidden blade]

I have the template

I will downsize the ai art that I made when I can.

I can use real artwork, but I like the cards that have been made. Yes it's not human hands, but it still looks good in my book

[gaunt glen]

Alrighte then suuuuuureeeeee

[hidden blade]

👍

[paper forge]

@hidden blade how about this the video is loaded give it a second

[hidden blade]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[paper forge]

Now I am working with Weiss

[paper forge]

Glad it's working

[paper forge]

@hidden blade is this correct for weisss

[hidden blade]

Yes!

[paper forge]

@hidden blade btw the Blake joker what's does it exactly do and it effects of joker right not consumables as I know only jokers have negative forms editions

[hidden blade]

Wrong. I have a modded joker that creates negative versions of consumables (tarots and planets)

[paper forge]

Show me

@hidden blade show it to me now as I have already started creating

@hidden blade Hello! Send me that mod please

[hidden blade]

Oh it's not a mod. It's perkeo

[paper forge]

So I can understand how it works

[paper forge]

Lemme check it out

[hidden blade]

Perkeo the legendary joker

[paper forge]

The green one right

[hidden blade]

Yeah. Just Blake's added effect is that her joker (like ruby) gets 1x multiplier per negitive consumable. She starts at 1 already so if you have one negative, she goes to 2. If you have 2 negatives. She goes to three

Also please don't rush me. I work third, I'm supposed to be asleep right now >.<

[paper forge]

Sorry I just wanted to know plus it's 12am here 😅

Gonna sleep at 2am, plus got exams tomorrow

[hidden blade]

It's 5pm monday here >.< and take your time!!!

[paper forge]

And on top I got scammed by a guy who wanted a joker re texture and re name so am kinda mad about that rn 😭

Bro took my work and disappear without paying a cent 😭

[paper forge]

You should sleep take care goodnight if am done with blacke I will finish yang if I can or I will leave it for tomorrow

[hidden blade]

Blake*

And I'm gonna resize the cards for you so you can add them in.

Are you doing team rwby card as well or just the main 4?

[paper forge]

Ama do all and ama do the textures for you also those textures look awful and too much Ai, ama try my best to make them much Balatro friendly

Would it be cool if I added the Shadow Version of them

[hidden blade]

Dude....if you do that. I'm getting you a $100 Playstation card

That's alot of work, you deserve to get paid

[paper forge]

Let me finish the work first 🫡 and let you check, btw dw even after paying me I will be available if you need to update your mod or fix something and I won't charge extra for that am always like that for all my clients

[hidden blade]

🫡🫡🫡

[paper forge]

1 time payment thats all

[paper forge]

Take care bro/sis (not sure) u should sleep now it's 5 for you 😮‍💨

[hidden blade]

Bro. Cinder is a Character from the same show as the characters you are working on :p ^_^

[paper forge]

You wanna add another joker? Cinder?

[hidden blade]

The 5 jokers should be

Ruby
Weiss
Blake
Yang
Team rwby

[paper forge]

Let me know I think I will do Yang, Team RWBY tomorrow and by Wednesday I will be done hopefully!

[hidden blade]

And looking at weiss. The only issue i have is that once the cards are created, they where scored. I don't want the created cards scored. Just one

If that makes sense

[paper forge]

Perfect am done with Ruby and Weiss, Blake in process, yang Team RWBY ama do it tomorrow, artworks Wednesday and that will be perfect I guess

[paper forge]

Nope I didn't understand at all 😅

[hidden blade]

Like if you look, your played an ace and two more where created (perfect) but then the other two aces are scored as well.

[paper forge]

So u don't want them to be scored?

[hidden blade]

I'll ask you, what is more balanced?

I want this mod to be balanced as well as fun >.<

[paper forge]

What I think is that ist actually balanced becz this only happens onces in a round only when u have one card plus it doesn't get stored in your deck like how DNA does so I think it's balanced

Becz rn am dealing with the code and functionality

For all of them

[hidden blade]

If you think it's balanced. Leave it as is! I'm cool with that

[paper forge]

Than I will ask you about rarity and price of those cards in the shop than I will deal with art works lastly I will combine all the separate mod jokers into one mod

[paper forge]

From my angle it's balanced but also look at this view what's the point of the cards being copied when they don't even get scored right?

Actually if you were the one who put thoughts on this idea and functions take a big salute 🫡 Becz they are PERFECT! They fit so well with the game also

[hidden blade]

So rarity.

Ruby
Weiss
Blake
Yang

All rare, cost 10

Team rwby
Legendary

[paper forge]

Am gonna start watching this RWBY is it nice?

[paper forge]

Keep this saved as am doing testing I kept them all common so I can see them often on the shops

[hidden blade]

Honestly...yes and no. And I'll tell you why. S1 and 2 graphic sucks. Because the company making it was a very small team. The creator died before s3 came out. S3...gold teir story, good graphics. S4-6 better graphics...slow af...s7-8 best graphics. Best story....s9...dog shit.

I love this show because I grew with it and watch a company grow into a giant, and unfortunately die because Warner brother's bought them and shut them down.

Luckily, viz media (sames one who made salor moon mind you) bought them. So hopefully s10 or a reboot is around the corner

How do i pin a comment?

[paper forge]

No idea but I took a screenshot rn

[hidden blade]

10/4

[paper forge]

Holly so may seasons but let's see I might like it 😉 i will start it after I finish my exams

[hidden blade]

And what i did was try to make it like their powers front he show

Ruby: speed
Weiss: she can create glyphs or beings to fight with her
Blake: she uses shadows of herself to fight (like she can make a stone shadow that absorbs a hit for her. That's why I went with negative cards)
Yang: the more she gets hit, the more powerful she becomes

[paper forge]

YOOO BLAKE IS WORKING HOPEFULLY LOOK!

Sorry it's flipped

[hidden blade]

Yes! And now her multiplier should be at 2

So if you play a hand, she should give a 2x to your multiplier because you have 1 negative consumable card

[paper forge]

Another round test

[hidden blade]

Good! Now the multiplier?

[paper forge]

So by default she gives x1 right?

[paper forge]

It's giving me one rn

[hidden blade]

At default yes!

[paper forge]

Alright lemme fix it

[paper forge]

@hidden blade I fixed it nows it's working as it should be

[paper forge]

@hidden blade I was done with the Yang joker (small bug that I will need to fix) I wanted to ask do you want the card to be scored then destroyed or the card to be destroyed immediately (I think it would be much better if the card were scored than destroyed right?

[hidden blade]

Scored then destroyed

[paper forge]

Perfect 👊

[paper forge]

@hidden blade what's Team RWBY jokers function

[hidden blade]

Team rwby: by itself it plays all cards in hand with a seal/element. When the other 4 jokers are being used (like exodia for the yugioh mod) team rwby joker gives 10xmult

[paper forge]

Like what do you mean by it plays all cards in hands with a seal/element?

[hidden blade]

So like it adds the multiplier for glass and steel cards that you have in hand. Then the editions like the extra chips or multiplier for the foil or holographics. Then The blue and purple seals give its consumables. I doesn't score the card, just the elements and plays the seals

[hidden blade]

We may have a problem with payment @paper forge

Psn cards are region locked. So are you in the US by chance? Because I am...if your not then we may need a plan B

[paper forge]

Yah am using US

[paper forge]

Just came home I will check on it dw

[hidden blade]

Alright. I will dm you the code when I get it

[paper forge]

Istg I still don't understand this card am very sorry but maybe give me examples if there is or a full explanation like how u did with the other cards

[hidden blade]

I don't know how to explain it any better

[paper forge]

(also I tried the 4 cards together it kinda feels it downgrades the gameplay balance not even overpowered it literally downgrades) specially Yang it burns to many cards in my option 🤔

Like I think yang is the problem

[paper forge]

Step by step explain the main function first of the card how it works alone without the 4 cards being together

[hidden blade]

If you have any card in your hand that has an effect. Ie: steel. Gold. Glass. Foil. And/or a seal then it adds what ever effect those cards do to your score or gives the consumables

[paper forge]

No problem take your time, meanwhile am making the artwork for you and the last card

[hidden blade]

Well with yang you want a play one card. That way weiss copies it and give yang a x3 instead of a x1

[paper forge]

Example let's say I have Glass and another example i have red seal what happens

[paper forge]

🤔 that's a good idea lemme test some game plays and let you know

[hidden blade]

Glass gives you 1.5x and the red seal makes it happen again on that card. Unless the red seal is on a regular card then it does nothing for that card

[paper forge]

How about this lets make yang to burn cards per ante so example let's say I burnt 4 cards on first ante than it stays with 4 cards mults till I defeat the boss and go to another ante and so on?

[hidden blade]

What do you mean?

[paper forge]

Sorry am also bad at explaining, so what I mean is instead of the cards getting destroyed every blind it would rather get destroyed every ante meaning, let's say I played first ante small blind and I burnt 4 cards, than the mults I get from burning those 4 cards would stay till next ante when I burn the card again on whatever the blind I play on so instead of resetting every blind it would reset every ante

[hidden blade]

Yangs multiplier shouldn't reset at all

[paper forge]

Look let's do this, when am done with the cards and you need me to change anything let me know alright? Btw let me send you a video of Yang

[hidden blade]

Her multiplier should grow forever, that's why you want her early game and buy cards, to burn for her. If you burn 1 card every blind, by the end she should have x24 multi(8antie X 3 blinds)

[paper forge]

Owhhh so not like this, wait the video is loading

@hidden blade here is the video, alright lemme fix yang

[paper forge]

Am still clueless am sorry if am disturbing you a lot 🙏

[hidden blade]

Ok

You play a pair of aces. A pair gives you 10x2, aces give you 22. So now it's 32x2. Now let's say in your hand you have 3 steel and 2 glass. One red seal on a steel, and one holographic

Your steel cards give you 1.5 each. Team rwby plays them again. So technically they give 3 each. (X9 total)

Glass gives you 2x. Since they are not scored, that's it. (4x total)

The red seal plays the steel cards again. (1.5 total)

The holo plus 10

So your score should be
32x147

Math is wrong. Hang on

[paper forge]

So if I have understand properly you mean that even if I used a normal card team RWBY joker would give me the glass effect of that card becz I have a glass card on my hands right?

[hidden blade]

Yes.

But it won't break the glass.

Only give you the multiplier it should give you if you did play/score it

[paper forge]

Again let me repeat so I can understand properly let's say I have gold card in my deck if that card appears on the bottom and let's say I choose I normal card the joker would give me the gold enhancement effect on that normal card and if the card is gold it would double the enhancement reward right?

[paper forge]

So red seal retriggers the cards so that effect shouldnt be copied by the joker only the red seal mults?

[hidden blade]

Hang on

[paper forge]

Take your time

[hidden blade]

If you have a gold card. The joker will give you $3 every time you play a hand as long as you don't play that gold card so it stays in your hand

The joker does not change any card

Unless it has a gold seal. Then it will give you $6 unill you play it. When you play it it only gives three because your playing the card, the seal works but the edition of the cards effects are not meet

Does that make sense

[paper forge]

I think now I do kinda much better than before, 😅 sorry I had to make you type a lot

[hidden blade]

Now for yang. Even if you play a high card with 3 other cards. All those cards are destroyed and added to yang. Not just the cards that are scored

[hidden blade]

All good. Any more questions or scenarios?

[paper forge]

I have fixed yang now it will keep on adding forever till the game ends (game over) is that how u wanted right?

[hidden blade]

YES

[paper forge]

Soon ama send you a gameplay video

[paper forge]

If you got more scenarios please tell me hope am not disturbing you, take your time meanwhile am testing yang

[hidden blade]

Ok...let see if I can't come up with something

Nvm. I can't access debug. I don't know how to

[paper forge]

It's alright will trying to remember all your messages and check the Balatro wiki to understand the enhancements

And seals

[hidden blade]

BASICALLY THE MIME

That's so much better.....

[paper forge]

💀

[hidden blade]

Yeah I didn't know that was a card....

And a uncommon at that...so to make team rwby better....it does it twice?

[paper forge]

Can you read this and see if that's what you exactly mean?
https://balatrogame.fandom.com/wiki/Mime

If so than I understood now

[hidden blade]

Yea but it retriggers cards not jokers

It retriggers all

Gold
Glass
Foil
Holographic
Steel
Red/blue/gold/purple seals
Foil
Polychrome

Cards

[paper forge]

So basically I copy mimes functions but it doesn't copy jokers and it gives x10 mult if all 4 cards are there? Right

[hidden blade]

Right. Could go up more if needed to be balanced

[paper forge]

Alright lemme create the card, also fixing bugs on Yang card which is causing the game to crash

[paper forge]

@hidden blade alright Yang is officially bug free and working as it should be

[hidden blade]

Sweet!

[paper forge]

Last card left is Team RWBY, when am done with that I will change their rarity and pricing and their joker information on tooltip to be much clear and better

Than I will continue with the artworks

[paper forge]

@hidden blade were u able to get the codes?

[hidden blade]

I'll go to the store once everything is ready. I'll go to gamestop and get you a code. Just tell me when

[paper forge]

You can get it, then I will send you half the work so you can test it and all when meanwhile I am finishing becz even after finishing the work I will still be active so if you need me to change or anything I will do it for you

[hidden blade]

10/4.

Can I see the art work >.<

[paper forge]

Still working on ruby, give me some time, plus even if am done and you would like me to change the artwork I will dw I will also redo it if you want 🫡