Hidden Aces / Up The Sleeve

[feral valley]

Could someone update this mod so it has all of its original changes from the first version since it's abandoned now? The original mod doesn't work after one of the updates and just crashes the game

https://www.nexusmods.com/balatro/mods/1?tab=description

[teal sphinx]

What's the issue with the mod?

[feral valley]

They updated it to work with the modloader but never implement half the original changes, then waffled for a few months about finishing it, and then declared it discontinued a few days ago. The original mod was just a replacement of the exe file to the modded exe file, it worked for a while but it doesn't work any more after the last update that added more deck skins. Bricked my game and I had to reinstall the whole game

These ones weren't added

[teal sphinx]

Do u hv the crash log? And also can u explain about this mod, maybe I could help (am a newbie and if I could help I will let you know)

[feral valley]

It's just technical changes and more of a "cheat" mod to make the game a bit easier, altering the effects of some of the cards. I did not unfortch get a crash log

[teal sphinx]

Okay first of all I can see this is version 1.0.1n and not 1.0.1o

[teal sphinx]

Like there wasn't a crash log at all or?

[feral valley]

I have no idea how the modloader even works, this was the only mod I used and it just replaced the exe for me, so I'm figuring that out now

[feral valley]

I mean, I can't find a log if there is one? Where would they be stored if not the common steamapps folder

[teal sphinx]

Owh I get it now so basically this guy instead of making a mod he integrated the changes inside the exe basically modify the game files itself right?

[feral valley]

I didn't grab a screencap of when it crashed

[feral valley]

Yes

[teal sphinx]

Usually when the game crashes the whole message pops up with a blueish screen

[teal sphinx]

Give me some time let me check it out and see if I can help you or not as I said I am still learning stuff, and if he basically just integrated the mod into the exe I could try to make into a standalone mod, have you ever tried steammod and lovely

[feral valley]

I have not tried steammod but I'm looking at it now, I have no idea what lovely is

[teal sphinx]

Lovely is an injector, and if u need help be free to ask people in this server, also there is plenty of yt videos to help u mod balatro

[teal sphinx]

Can u open the game again and see if u see the crash report screen

@feral valley you there?

I found the places which have been modified I think I can create a standalone mod for you

[feral valley]

Yeah I have to redownload the old version of the mod

Yeah?

By standalone do you mean compatible with steammod or another replacement exe file

[teal sphinx]

Am trying my best as I think I could get this mod alive plus this mod has violated the modding rules too

[feral valley]

lsjkdhgflskdhf

[teal sphinx]

Steammods fingers 🤞 if I can achieve it

[teal sphinx]

I think u know why it has violated 🤣

[feral valley]

Cause it's an exe?

Honestly, I've never seen a modloader more complicated than this one

Also why I avoided it for so long

[teal sphinx]

Actually it's easy 😅 very very easy

U just need two things, yah it looks complicated but actually it's easy as I used to think the same before I did it myself

[feral valley]

Most modloaders i've used are just "shove this exe in the steamapps common, make a mods folder here, shove the mods in that folder, arrange them in the exe based on what you want loaded first"

[teal sphinx]

Trust me am a newbie and I thought the same I was like WTH ain't doing all that, than I watched a yt video and all and it was extremely easy

[teal sphinx]

Use Steammod and lovely

I can find you someone who can help u If u need

@feral valley do u hv the original Balatro exe 1.0.1n without mods so I can compare codes and find the modified one

[feral valley]

I do not, no

[teal sphinx]

Alright I found mine which I archived

[feral valley]

I just installed it with a video tutorial, wasn't as bad as I thought

Ough if you can get Aces updated I'm set to keep playing goofy poker

[teal sphinx]

Am almost done this part is a bit hard but don't worry I will need someone to test it eventually ama send it to ya

[feral valley]

Lets goooooooo

[silver lichen]

send it to me too would ya

[teal sphinx]

@silver lichen and @feral valley don't worry ama send it here, a lil work left, I had to first find the changes done by comparing the original and modified exe together

[silver lichen]

aye mate

thanks

[teal sphinx]

This will take a bit longer than I thought it would crap

[teal sphinx]

Do u know anyone really code at coding?

[silver lichen]

nope :3

[teal sphinx]

@feral valley and @silver lichen what's the most thing you like from this mod,

[silver lichen]

i'd argue the shop slots

[feral valley]

campfire doesnt reset, spectrals have no debuffs, theres more negative tags

[teal sphinx]

Can you show me the more negative tags, am asking this becz I will have eti recreate the mod mostly step by step so and find the changes, so I wanted to start with the first things you like about this mod

How about money and hand size and amount of discards?

[feral valley]

they took out foil/holo/poly as tags and boosted the negative chance appearing slightly afaik

[feral valley]

those are also a big bonus

the amount of cards you can choose as well for discards/planet/tarot/spectrals

[teal sphinx]

Alright lemme try to get those working

[feral valley]

negative jokers also give more slots

from 1 to 3

I used most of the changes in my runs

The only ones I didn't use were popcorn, yorik, and red joker

I will say, the OP said that after transferring the mod to the modloader, the edition numbers wouldn't change and that the modloader overwrote them. But, after looking at the download for the newest version of their mod, they didn't change the download from an exe file replacement to a modloader mod at all

The easiest way I can think to do this is use a website like text-compare.com, pasting the contents in there of an unchanged version of the game- and the 25th march 2024 version of the mod contents, to find exactly what was changed and where

[teal sphinx]

I used the same went through the all the files and compared it I also got the files and and the codes

[feral valley]

nice nice nice

[teal sphinx]

Now the part is that the patches aren't being patched

[feral valley]

patches? the updates?

[teal sphinx]

Am finding someone who knows very very well in the coding

[teal sphinx]

I am first testing it with patches to at least get that working than I will slowly update the codes

At least gotta fix one issue before stepping to the next part

@feral valley as you have use this mod, which parts of the game should I check to see if the mod has applied or not like what the most obvious change those this mod do so I can observe it in game when testing it

[feral valley]

the starting ones are the most obvious, starting money 10/4 consumable slots, discarding 10 at a time, also the tarot since you can get those right away

[teal sphinx]

Yooo! @feral valley I got it! Working (half of it)

[feral valley]

👀

whats up with the other half? was there like a conflict or coding issue?

[feral valley]

im so excited to get my favorite mod back

https://tenor.com/view/sad-dog-chihuahua-sad-chihuahua-gif-20336026

[teal sphinx]

Yes, the steammod, now I think u will need to use it with lovely without steammod but wait am trying my best the mod is done inshort

[teal sphinx]

@feral valley

[feral valley]

I gotta leave the house in a half hour whats up

[teal sphinx]

I got the mod working (also big thanks to virtualized (the mod creator of Balatro Multiplayer mod) he helped to fix the bugs) now this mod works but with lovely only, steammod is bringing problems which I will try my best to fix it

Plus I will need your help to be active for some days too as my plan is to add more content

[feral valley]

more content? like what?

also, how would i only use it in lovely

also, you definitely used the modded code from march 25th 2024 and not jan 16th 2025 yeah?

the only thing i can think of to add is finding a way to fix the shop menu from badly overlapping with the left hand side of the menu when you expand the shop

and to fix the big card packs from going under the deck, making them unselectable, when a lot get pulled from a jumbo pack

[teal sphinx]

Is there a difference?

[teal sphinx]

Can u show me the overlapping

[feral valley]

the newest version they released only has half the original changes

[teal sphinx]

Can you tell me the difference plz

[feral valley]

the one with the orange cloud is the mod version that has all the changes

if you downloaded the newest version of hidden aces, its only half complete

[teal sphinx]

So u r telling me all this work I did went in water 💀💀💀💀

@feral valley is there a big difference like what does that have that this one has

[feral valley]

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i did mention this before!!!

[feral valley]

the newest version of the mod is missing the entire bottom half of this image

[feral valley]

these werent added in the latest version of the mod, and also these

[teal sphinx]

Let me compare and see

I can barely understand you rn like how can he downgrade his mod and why would he?

So @feral valley basically I have downloaded the old version that was updated ?

1.0 New is basically 1.0

And u were telling me about 1.1

[feral valley]

The one with all the changes is 1.1 posted on march 25th 2024

i have NO idea why he downgraded the mod

[teal sphinx]

@feral valley okay I just want to know one thing what's the difference like pin point it so I can exactly see maybe I just need to change a bit to add

[feral valley]

i never checked the newest version of the mod, and i just assumed- because he said 'its now steammod compatible'- that he just changed it to a modloader mod. i did not know that he just took the newest exe and changed that, and didnt actually make it a mod mod

i only figured that out the other day talking to you

[teal sphinx]

Where are you getting this information from the website of does he have another wiki or something

[feral valley]

the comments section of nexusmods for this mod

[teal sphinx]

Okay can you help me to find the main difference between those two versions so I can just take the parts that are not there and add it into my version

[feral valley]

these were not added to the 2025 version of the mod

[teal sphinx]

This is gonna make me cry I didn't sleep for 2days I think to make this work 😭

[feral valley]

LDIFHLASKJDHLASDKHF

GET SOME REST

ive waited months for this mod to update, i CAN wait a bit longer 😭

[teal sphinx]

The first one is a tutorial or?

[feral valley]

the first one is something he did not add to the updated mod, because the modloader overwrote the values, so he left them out and told people how to fix it themselves

[teal sphinx]

@eternal plover sorry for the ping but I saw a message where you said you have hidden Aces installed, I had some questions I wanted to ask about it thanks

[teal sphinx]

Sooo.... The 1.1 doesn't overwrite

[feral valley]

1.1 of the mod just crashes the game when you change out the exe

i dont know how it worked before since i didn't have modloader before now

[teal sphinx]

Bez its based on the balatro 1.0.1L

[eternal plover]

It's alr!

I use it whenever i just wanna have a really broken run, but it is kinda outdated

It also got discontinued sometime in jan, so i don't expect any updates or fixes

[feral valley]

were trying to make it a modloader mod

[eternal plover]

Oh? That sounds cool!

[teal sphinx]

Yah so my plan was to revive it and add some twist not public yet as I will have to ask permission but rn am helping @feral valley,

[teal sphinx]

Which version are you using

1.1 or 1.0-NEW

[eternal plover]

The latest one, 1.0-new i think it was called?

[teal sphinx]

Is there any difference btn 1.1 and 1.0-NEW in your experience?

[eternal plover]

I haven't tried 1.1 atm, I only ever played 1.0-new

I could try it out later if that helps?

[feral valley]

1.0-new is missing half the changes

[teal sphinx]

Plz do if you can hope we aren't disturbing you it's not a must but if you can let us know

Thank you a lot

[teal sphinx]

I compared the files and actually 1.0-NEW is much improved and better than 1.1 😐

[feral valley]

?

[teal sphinx]

The 1.0-New has 1.1 stuff and it has been improved

But let's get the answer from @eternal plover if he will be testing

Everyone who has helped me will be given credits in the mod list dw 😊

Rn my brain is dead got exams tomorrow holly crap am multitasking 🤣😭

[feral valley]

so campfire and the spectrals were included in the new version of the mod?

[teal sphinx]

Yes I remember editing the code for it 😅

[feral valley]

🤔

if the changes were made, why did he say some of them werent added in the comments. and also not include half the list in the updated version description of the mod. absolutely strange

[eternal plover]

I'll try to play 1.1 in abit

See if there's anything majorly different

It crashes as soon as i open it

[teal sphinx]

Am confused 😵‍💫

[teal sphinx]

Yha that's the issue

[eternal plover]

Im not really what to do now

It just keeps crashing

[teal sphinx]

Yah it's happening to everyone,

[teal sphinx]

He did say he will make a mod loader mod so is he gonna do it or did he just scrape the idea

[feral valley]

he scraped it

[teal sphinx]

I hv no idea tbh, my goal was to make this mod much better by adding new stuff in it too with my own twist altho it's so weird

[teal sphinx]

How did you know?

[feral valley]

the title of the mod updated to say (discontinued)

[teal sphinx]

So basically am the first one to create this into a mod loader mod?

[feral valley]

yea

[teal sphinx]

Yh on march I saw it in the logs so basically this is a dead mod that I could revive it with my own twist

[eternal plover]

Honestly yeah go ahead

I like this mod but its kinda annoying to change the exe file everytime

[teal sphinx]

@feral valley give me a name idea? I was thinking about a new name and plus ofc I can't just steal the codes so I will be doing some revamp with some minor changes

[eternal plover]

Hmmm do you want a name thats similar or really different?

[feral valley]

Up The Sleeve

[eternal plover]

Thats kinda good ngl

[feral valley]

whats up there? ill never tell

[teal sphinx]

That's the thing, let me do this how spice and waluigi if you guys are ready to support me and help me I will started reviving this mod in a completely new way (yes am a newbie 😭 but we can do this together)

[feral valley]

🤝

i love cheating mods to make games easier

[eternal plover]

Im also really new to making mods but im down!

[teal sphinx]

Btw @eternal plover and @feral valley I hv create the lovely.toml of this original mod u will need lovely to be installed (but no steammods)

[eternal plover]

I already got lovely so thats good

[teal sphinx]

Perfect

[eternal plover]

Guess we should change the forum name?

[teal sphinx]

U know making mods?

[strange grove]

hidden aces and cryptid 🤔

[eternal plover]

"Hidden Aces / Up The Sleeve"

[teal sphinx]

Change the name

[teal sphinx]

Wait will think about the perfect name let's change the forum

[eternal plover]

I'm trying to make a small one just for some close friends atm

[feral valley]

Hidden Aces / Up The Sleeve

[eternal plover]

Alr

[teal sphinx]

Great u got the skills

Test this for me

Just finished it

This is Hidden Aces every single code that I could get from the exe that changes the game main codes

[teal sphinx]

@eternal plover and @feral valley

Try it out and let me know

[eternal plover]

👍

[teal sphinx]

I will think of new names and suggest it here plus I will tweak the mods balance system like the hands and credits etc

[teal sphinx]

Hello

[eternal plover]

I had an idea for a name if you wanted it to be somewhat similar

Something like "Hidden Antes" or "Restored Aces"

These are just names i got off the top of my head

[teal sphinx]

Restored Aces sounds cool too, my main goal was to get a proper mod working first before we name it, I was thinking how about increasing the shop size how about adding more jokers adding more consumeables

[eternal plover]

sounds good!

[teal sphinx]

It won't be easy but if we can do it together it will be perfect

[feral valley]

you would have to figure out how to fix the shop being so large that it covers the entire left menu first, cause thats already a problem hidden aces has when you get the shop upgrade voucher

[teal sphinx]

Did anyone test it?

[teal sphinx]

I would need to see a screenshot 😭

[feral valley]

where do i put the lovely.toml

[feral valley]

hey

[teal sphinx]

Create a folder in the mods folder call it anything example HiddenAces than paste it

[eternal plover]

ahhh alr

[teal sphinx]

This is insane I think it could be reduced? 🤔

[eternal plover]

the first line has a missing bracket btw

it has 3 instead of 4

[teal sphinx]

Thanks 😅

[eternal plover]

wait i mistyped

3 instead of 2

it has an extra

[teal sphinx]

[[manifest]]
version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 50

It should be like this

I forgot to add

[teal sphinx]

No u haven't mistyped

[eternal plover]

ah alr

[teal sphinx]

Wait nvm u r right it should be 2

[manifest]
version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 50

[eternal plover]

lemme run it and see if anthing happens

[teal sphinx]

Am sleepy 🤣😵‍💫 1am

[eternal plover]

its alr

the game runs

[teal sphinx]

Do it on original exe

[eternal plover]

yea im on original dw

nothing seems too different atm

should i be looking for anything?

i can select more than 5 cards but it wont let me play the hand

[teal sphinx]

Yh I saw that too

Is that normal

[feral valley]

hanged man isnt what it should be, it should destroy like 8, instead it only destroys 2

[teal sphinx]

Is that a joker?

[feral valley]

tarot

all the standard packs in the shop were also more than 3 if i remember right, they were doubled and you could choose more than 1 to keep

the 'convert this card' tarots were also something crazy like up to 9

[teal sphinx]

c_hanged_man = {order = 13, discovered = false, cost = 3, consumeable = true, name = "The Hanged Man", pos = {x=2, y=1}, set = "Tarot", effect = "Card Removal", cost_mult = 1.0, config = {remove_card = true, max_highlighted = 5}},

[teal sphinx]

U got smods or withput smods?

If u hv smod mod remove it and try again

@feral valley

[feral valley]

im goin

[teal sphinx]

Yes?

U had smods right!

?*

[eternal plover]

i removed all my mods

i only had lovely

[feral valley]

yeah i forgot to remove smods

[eternal plover]

and everything was normal except the hand size

[teal sphinx]

Yha that's why

[teal sphinx]

🤔 I will need to find where the information about the packs are kept

[teal sphinx]

This is how it is for me

[eternal plover]

i opened the packs and they were all normal

[teal sphinx]

Which packs are these

[feral valley]

the spectrals are wrong. ectoplasm didnt decrease hand size, ouija didnt decrease hand size, wraith didnt set your money to 0, immolate only destroyed 1 card instead of 5, ankh didnt destroy other jokers, hex didnt destroy other jokers, cryptid created 5 copies

i do have the lovely installed right this time dont worry

[eternal plover]

jokers, tarots and playing card packs

[strange grove]

immolate destroying only 1 card can be considered a nerf at times

[teal sphinx]

Can you try this for the last time deleted that lovely folder in the mods folder and try again meanwhile am gonna check the codes

[teal sphinx]

Let me check the codes

[teal sphinx]

@feral valley but in the code it's supposed to change to destroy 0 cards? The mod has been written like that

c_immolate = {order = 10, discovered = false, cost = 4, consumeable = true, name = "Immolate", pos = {x = 9, y = 4}, set = "Spectral", config = {remove_card = true, extra = {destroy = 0, dollars = 100}}},

[feral valley]

when i played 1.1 of the mod it destroyed 1 card

[strange grove]

you could just rewrite immolate to be "select up to 5 cards to destroy and gain 20$"

basically just hanged man 2.0

[feral valley]

thats a p good idea

[teal sphinx]

Alright after checking the codes and comparing I did find some patches aren't being applied the card.lua and game.lua

[teal sphinx]

So he changed it on 1.0-NEW? Or

[feral valley]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont know anything about the code

but someone else said it was different in 1.0-new

[teal sphinx]

😅 yah I will need to fix that part game.lua has lots of code that I will need to check altho I did see it's not being patched but haven't checked which one has and which one hasn't as am doing a quick testing

[teal sphinx]

Can you bring him here? Maybe I can ask him questions I need for people who knows about this mod and uses this mod

[feral valley]

im misremembering

[teal sphinx]

Yoo @feral valley

[feral valley]

aaa

[feral valley]

was there an update?

[teal sphinx]

Not exactly, been busy with school exams I will be back online

[feral valley]

any updates?

[teal sphinx]

Thank god you reminded me, I wanted to ask you to go and use the mod and list me all like all of the features in the mod

I will hv to start this from scratch

[teal sphinx]

@feral valley

[feral valley]

im here

[feral valley]

just had a terrible yesterday, i need to setup steam again. had to fresh install win 10 to migrate to an ssd for my os.

[teal sphinx]

Why what happened

So sorry

[feral valley]

i couldnt copy the drive after 6 hours of trying to figure it out. my os was on an hdd that was dying

do you mean play the original mod? cause i thought you had all the changes info already

[teal sphinx]

I do, but I wanted a lil help and wanted to note everything down so if u could play 1.0 NEW and let me know what's changed I can slowly start learning more about Balatro modding Lua and slowly makes things from scratch, I wanted you to to help me out on this, so basically I wanted you to write all the features in parts the Main and the Minor ones

That's all I want

[feral valley]

The easiest way to do that is using https://text-compare.com/ for each of the files. I don't think I can play through the game and notice every little detail organically, but I can help you with finding the changes in the files

[feral valley]

i opened your toml file and right away i saw some stuff missing. In text compare there was often more than one line changed in a group

for the large chunks of text on multiple lines, you may need to do each line individually as a patch

a bunch were missing at the top of the card.lua file

in your toml

im editing the toml

[feral valley]

so i looked up some formatting stuff, and apparently the multiple lines are supposed to look like this

'''< being their own lines

[feral valley]

the tags need the spaces before them in the payload i think

[feral valley]

though, theres more changes in 1.1 than there is in 1.0NEW

[feral valley]

the bigger card packs still arent working

[teal sphinx]

Wait @feral valley listen don't check those r old ones, I did a proper arrangement already with comparing and all I just wanted to know the main functions that's where am not getting time to do

[feral valley]

i didnt, the old 1.1 file is a mess and i gave up trying to figure it out

[teal sphinx]

I have done a perfect txt file with all the files modified or removed written properly and arrange the thing is that am not getting time to look into it and check what those changes are exactly so I wanted someone to note them out like for example blind is changed to give this much blind is changed to do this etc like that

[feral valley]

on both mine and yours though, the card packs being larger still isnt working even after i formatted it differently

so you want a list?

can you send me your file again?

[feral valley]

can you send me your lovely file again?

[teal sphinx]

It's not a lovely file, it's just a txt file that I wrote down the codes that r changed

It's not a mod just noted down the main changes, all I need to do now is too turn them into smods if possible form scratch

[feral valley]

so we dont have to replace the lovely file any more and just use smods?

i still need the txt file to write down a list of the changes, like if youre going to use it as a specific description for posting the mod

also, where do i shove this file back in the balatro folder?

[teal sphinx]

What I mean is that I took the changed codes and wrote them in a .txt file so it's simple and sweet and quick to understand now my goal is to view through the changes and note down somewhere the changes and then I can start writing done codes that will work with smods form scratch as lovely doesn't work

[teal sphinx]

Which file

[feral valley]

smods file

had to take it out to get the lovely file to work, but you said were not doing that any more

[teal sphinx]

Look don't do anything delete the hiddenaces I sent you as it might confuse you I will try my best to get this working as rn am extremely busy with exams but I will work on this mod as I said I hv a big revival plan

[teal sphinx]

Yh becz I wanna turn this into a smods mod

[feral valley]

Any progress?