Glue for Modpacks

[grim ginkgo]

Small mod for those who are setting up a modpack and wish they could change some factors to accommodate how much content those mods add. Currently, it just allows you to edit joker spawn rates or the shop size by editing the config. If there are other features that would be beneficial in making the experience of playing many mods together more enjoyable, let me know, and I'll see what I can do.

This mod has no UI or in-game config. Edit the config by hand

https://github.com/icyethics/Glue-For-Modpacks/tree/main

[grim ginkgo]

Glue for Modpacks

[unkempt pulsar]

Frankly summit

[soft wadi]

when adding to mod manager

🔥

[grim ginkgo]

if it turns out it doesn't break any of the big mods, haha

[unkempt pulsar]

Hmm, am i missing something?

[grim ginkgo]

Is it adding slots even for the elements you set to 0?

[unkempt pulsar]

yeah

[grim ginkgo]

Strange. I realized that the mod is hooking the start run function instead of the game init, so pushing a change in a sec that might work. I haven't ran into something like that at all, but I'll look into what could be happening

[unkempt pulsar]

I am using dev branch (soon main) if you are wondering

[grim ginkgo]

I'm setting up a UI to edit this. It's because the config gets stored in the save, and the actual config file's changes don't override it

took some time for me to figure that out, haha

[unkempt pulsar]

I would like to customize buffoon pack spawn rates too

or even better, preserve one booster pack slot for always buffoon pack (optionally only when there are 3 or more slots)

[grim ginkgo]

Oh, I'll see if I can make it so you can force specific content to show up in specific shop slots.

[grim ginkgo]

https://github.com/icyethics/Glue-For-Modpacks/releases/tag/V0.0.3-ALPHA

set up a UI, and made it hook the proper function so it doesn't crash on restarting a round

[grim ginkgo]

Going to try and add some more stuff to this next week:

• Adjustable rarity weights (Hopefully including modded rarities)
• Shop slots with forced content types

[primal fiber]

PEAAAK

[grim ginkgo]

nxkoo suggestions:

• I think if you have more than 5 MODS, you can just remove uncommon and common base jokers to make the pool filled with the custom one more often, so that we dont have to reroll that much
• also probably a confirmation box to warn the player if you have too many mods, it'll be prone to crash

Second one I'm just gonna turn into a generic message, I assume that anyone making modpacks to distribute, they'll be able to figure out how to change the message.

I'm gonna see if I can make rarity adjustable per mod in some way

[hybrid steppe]

weird decimals

[grim ginkgo]

Gonna try and make sure to push a fix for this today

[grim ginkgo]

Pushed the fix for it.

[cold edge]

Not sure why.... but I can't seem to modify the amount of booster packs using this

[bronze dagger]

@grim ginkgo Does the mod have like presets depending of the number of jokers? (So like if there's way too much common it tones down the common rate an expected value ect)

[grim ginkgo]

not yet, but technically that shouldn't matter due to how spawning works

more commons shouldn't change how often commons spawn, just make individual commons rarer, iirc

[bronze dagger]

Oh ok, with few mods I was wondering why Joker showed up in shop in my modded-only deck 🤔

[ornate gyro]

May sounds ambitious but is it possible for glue to detect modded rarity and add their respective appearance rate config?

[hybrid steppe]

Bump

I noticed this too

Haven’t checked with new version though

[hybrid steppe]

You can’t disable Joker afaik

[iron solstice]

Jimbo is the default Joker
if the game tries to generate a Joker but excludes everything it'll generate Jimbo
(similarly, Pluto is the default planet, Strength is the default tarot, and Blank is the default voucher)

[grim ginkgo]

I'll look into it, I suspect smods changed some things on their end that make my implementation not work anymore

[grim ginkgo]

looked into this, I think this is due to another mod. I'm up to fix it on my end, but I'd need to know which mod causes the issue!

In the latest version of smods, I can't reproduce it, at least

[grim ginkgo]

that is definitely something I wanna do. Same for adding rarity sliders that affect all content from a mod!

The main challenge is me setting up a better config ui, haha

[grim ginkgo]

did you play with prism?

I should check the issue section on the git more often, as someone's pointed out prism to be the cause

[hybrid steppe]

I do not, have no idea what that is

[hybrid steppe]

Valid, UI coding is the worst

[grim ginkgo]

It's another mod. But if I figure out what Prism does that makes it an issue, I suspect it'll fix compat issues for some other mods as well

[grim ginkgo]

Assuming @lethal isle is fine with me copying over some code from #1368169102103019610, I think I should be able to make good headway today, though

[hybrid steppe]

When I have access to my set up, I’ll try working through disabling other mods to see if I can give you the specific mod

[hybrid steppe]

They def should be

But good to ask

[lethal isle]

im def fine lol

feel free to steal anything ❤️

[hybrid steppe]

Goat

[grim ginkgo]

I'm also going to change the way joker spawn rate is expressed, because framing it like a percentage doesn't actually make sense with how it adjusts the rate

It only actually works as a percentage for a very specific range of weights. But because the individual weights of the other items in game don't get changed, setting the rate to 99% is definitely not actually 99%

[bronze dagger]

Coming to your house

[lethal isle]

wha

[grim ginkgo]

So I might either hide it being an arbitrary number, with 1 as the default, or set it up joker frequency to be based on how often a joker is supposed to spawn, compared to a non-joker, which in vanilla is 2.5x

I'll check again how it interacts with ghost deck as well 🤔

changed joker spawn rate into a multiplier, with the base 2.5x as the default. Seems to work fine on ghost deck as well

[cold edge]

I think it was a problem with prism when I was runnning it.

[reef swan]

the additional booster slots don't work for me :<

[elder sapphire]

me neither

[grim ginkgo]

Really?

[grim ginkgo]

What versions of smods are you running?

[grim ginkgo]

And what other mods?

[reef swan]

here's my smods

[elder sapphire]

a crapton

well

[reef swan]

and my mods

[elder sapphire]

it must be shared

[grim ginkgo]

Are you running prism?

[elder sapphire]

yea

[grim ginkgo]

Yeah, prism does something I haven't prepared for, haha. I haven't looked at it yet, as I got distracted, but that's why it's not working

[elder sapphire]

@quick steeple you made something bad for once

[quick steeple]

i guess the booster box code is causing issues

[grim ginkgo]

I assume Prism just does something that I didn't account for, so it's a timing conflict. I just have to see what fixes that

[quick steeple]

it's some pretty old code

[elder sapphire]

go fix it then

[quick steeple]

does this mod add extra booster slots?

[elder sapphire]

with a config

[grim ginkgo]

It allows you to add them, yeah

[quick steeple]

then if u don't mind i can take your code for it as a reference

so i can make sure they work together

[grim ginkgo]

Oh, yeah, go ahead

It's barely any code, haha, I think smods basically has an api for it, so I just set that

[elder sapphire]

hell yeah

nice

[quick steeple]

do they?

pretty sure they didn't when i did it for prism

maybe it's a new feature i didn't know of

[grim ginkgo]

Haha well new stuff is added constantly. I think I just set a variable at game start

[quick steeple]

i was actually already using the smods method it seams, i just forgot to remove the line that set the var to 0 at the start of the game from when i had my own implementation

it should work now

[grim ginkgo]

Great!

[elder sapphire]

testing time

glados would be proud

[hybrid steppe]

Now to find what mod is causing this issue for me and yell at them

[elder sapphire]

nice

[elder sapphire]

which issue

like

same thing witout prism?

[hybrid steppe]

Yea

I don’t have prism but that feature didn’t work for me as well

[elder sapphire]

weird

any other mods that touch boosters?

that you have i mean

[hybrid steppe]

Probably, I’d have to check, am away from my setup right now though

Later issue

[elder sapphire]

ah

(imagine not gaming on a laptop)

(doubles as a grill 90% of the time too)

[quick steeple]

but jokes aside, i'm surprised how active the entropy server is

considering the mod is so new

[elder sapphire]

entropy is a good cryptid expansion with no despots

for now

as such, deserved even if improbable

[quick steeple]

like, the paperback one is a desert in comparison

and that mod is like x20 more famous

also, why the hell i'm chatting here

i thought i was in dms lol

sorry

[grim ginkgo]

Hahahaha

The glue for Modpacks channel is a lot less active by comparison

[quick steeple]

the funny thing is that @elder sapphire answered me

[elder sapphire]

well

uh

[quick steeple]

so i thought we were in dms fr

[elder sapphire]

I'm stupid 2

I have a cap on so I didn't see the name of the channel

and didn't bother to check

[quick steeple]

the last message was from you so i got confused

[elder sapphire]

it works and nobody has to say anything

absolute win

[quick steeple]

real

[elder sapphire]

confuzzled

[grim ginkgo]

It does feel weird knowing it gets used by people but nobody ever talks to me about it, hahaha

I have no clue about whether people use it besides being like 'hmm that's a lot of vouchers for sale in that screenshot'

[elder sapphire]

don't worry I can annoy you on command

if you so desire

for example, I demand 20 voucher slots

[quick steeple]

it's weird, the first week of prism i had no idea if anyone was using it basically

[elder sapphire]

I was :3

[hybrid steppe]

(I do game on laptop - that was the set up I was referring to 😭)

[quick steeple]

github stats are so shit too

according to them someone got to the mod from a chinese tech website

[elder sapphire]

if someone says setup I think of like, a tower PC late 2000s style

[elder sapphire]

the Chinese love you

now make a red sun joker

[hybrid steppe]

That’s valid, I should probably not call it that

[quick steeple]

and some from youtube, even though i'm pretty sure no one made a vid about it there

[hybrid steppe]

Private channel

[elder sapphire]

weird

[hybrid steppe]

They’re gatekeeping your mod fr fr

[quick steeple]

what about this website? https://4pda.to/

[elder sapphire]

the what

[quick steeple]

also 4 people got it from here apparently https://docs.qq.com/

[hybrid steppe]

I’m not about to get myself doxxed

[elder sapphire]

https://youtu.be/9gftyyOB0eM I saw something similar from here today

[quick steeple]

i'm assuming that if github allows them then they aren't malicious

[hybrid steppe]

True actually

I also should have added /j to my text

[elder sapphire]

I opened it and I have VPNs and 2 antiviruses on my phone

[elder sapphire]

is it forgetfulness or 'tism?

this should be a game show

[quick steeple]

hew, antiviruses

[elder sapphire]

"everyone does that sweetie"

[hybrid steppe]

Just assuming everything I say is taken as a joke tbh

[elder sapphire]

I do it on purpose and everyone forgets

[quick steeple]

is my new /j

[elder sapphire]

cause I either sound serious or my jokes suck consistently

[elder sapphire]

yer a joker

[hybrid steppe]

I just make it so everyone else has to guess when I’m being serious

Including myself

[elder sapphire]

genius

can't know your plan if you don't know it either

[hybrid steppe]

Fr

[quick steeple]

where is this "cosmere" your name refers to?

[hybrid steppe]

#1354496708213473310

[elder sapphire]

I mean

it was pretty obvious

dense

[quick steeple]

i could't find it

[hybrid steppe]

Sorry for the self promo @grim ginkgo

[grim ginkgo]

Haha, I did consider adding a slider that can change the max of the other sliders 😋

[quick steeple]

because the search feature only works on full words

[grim ginkgo]

Nah, please promo

[hybrid steppe]

True…I should probably rename the thread

I hate discord search

[quick steeple]

me too

[grim ginkgo]

The only proof I have of people playing with Kino updates is crash logs and seeing that my repo gets copied on GitHub, tbh, hahaha

[elder sapphire]

lolz

had to give your mod up as it clogged EVERYTHING

like

1 in 2 things were from kino

[quick steeple]

i saw some of the art in the past weeks, good stuff

[hybrid steppe]

Thank you! I need to ramp up on the art for the mod, currently is the biggest blocker

[elder sapphire]

you know who else-

[grim ginkgo]

I am looking into Glue features to help with that issue, hahaha

But yeah, I'm not designing Kino with the notion of other mods in mind, clearly. It bloats every joker pool it gets inserted into, haha

[elder sapphire]

figures

[quick steeple]

this also remembers me that i'm halfway trough the way of kings but i'm not making much progress to finish it lol

[elder sapphire]

the what

[quick steeple]

700 pages, my god

[elder sapphire]

is that the third secret project

[grim ginkgo]

Remind me, by force or without it, to play cosmete soon

[quick steeple]

a book

[grim ginkgo]

Cosmere*

[quick steeple]

that mod is based on stuff related to that

[elder sapphire]

sounds vaguely familiar

[elder sapphire]

cosmete

[hybrid steppe]

You def def def should push through to finish it, the sanderlanche is worth it

[grim ginkgo]

But yeah, I'm hoping to add a config option to set general spawn rates on a per mod basis. So that you can play with Kino without it overrunning everything. I also still should see if I can set up the forced types for specific slots, and see if I can potentially expand that into forced mod content

[hybrid steppe]

I will be at your home with a gun dw

[quick steeple]

i'm enjoying it, i'm just a slow reader

[hybrid steppe]

This would be so nice, I’m holding off on a lot of content mods for fear of ruining Balatro for me

[elder sapphire]

I will be behind you with a rigorously Italian shotgun

[elder sapphire]

where the hell is that one meme now

[quick steeple]

lupara*

[elder sapphire]

wasn't the spas-12 Italian

[hybrid steppe]

Ah okay makes sense (I usually don’t like using sanderlanche as a reason to read the books, as it’s not very sustainable)

[elder sapphire]

the major obstacle for this is the simple fact everything there is so intertwined

[hybrid steppe]

Also I will start using spoiler tags in thread so I don’t accidentally spoil anything for you

[elder sapphire]

you'll cripple half the stuff just reducing it's spawn rates

[hybrid steppe]

I’d say it’s up to the user if they want such an experience..not much else you can do about it from a dev pov

[elder sapphire]

true

[grim ginkgo]

Yeah, that's true. Tbh, it's not intended as a feature to increase Kino's modpackability, but more so because I like playing a mod by itself, and some smaller mods add so little content that I maybe only see one joker or blind of it each run

[quick steeple]

@grim ginkgo how are you going about changing the rates, code wise?

[grim ginkgo]

Currently, I set the general rates

[elder sapphire]

I have 60 something mods and disagree

but hey can't do much about that

[grim ginkgo]

Disagree with which part of that? Haha

[quick steeple]

pizzas are weaker the more mods you have :(

[elder sapphire]

"one mod at a time"

[hybrid steppe]

(Sorry Ice for using your thread as general discussion atp, this is a safe haven now)

[quick steeple]

that's how prism is meant to be played

[elder sapphire]

I don't care :3

[quick steeple]

my thread was like this a few weeks ago

also because of @elder sapphire

[hybrid steppe]

Really living up to the username

[quick steeple]

real

[elder sapphire]

I put it there for a reason

[hybrid steppe]

Love rambling tbh

[elder sapphire]

but this time I didn't start the banter

[hybrid steppe]

Imagine staying on topic?

Boring

[elder sapphire]

reall

if you check our mod thread you'll see more rambling than you'll ever need

[grim ginkgo]

But for the per-mod rate, I'll need to set up weights to be individual per item, which means I need to overhaul a good amount of code (or steal JoyousSpring's code). Though I'll probably try and make it an smods pr

[hybrid steppe]

Stealing meme

[grim ginkgo]

Haha, I mean, Glue doesn't have a lot to discuss and any chatter helps this remain on my threadlist instead of disappearing

[hybrid steppe]

I shall assist by sending fun fact here every week

[quick steeple]

yeah, that was my concern, it requires a lot of tweaking

[hybrid steppe]

Fun fact 1: glue is an object that helps you stick things together

[elder sapphire]

i shall help by complaining

[quick steeple]

also it will have a notable performance impact i think

[elder sapphire]

all I can think of is just gradually reducing spawn chances the more stuff you have

[grim ginkgo]

Oh, I mean, I can see why other people do enjoy big packs, I just prefer to play them one by one, haha. Wasn't a value statement, just how I play with them. But that's why J wanna set that feature up, so I can download a mod that adds like 4 jokers, and bump their spawn chances a good bit so I can touch them in less than 20 runs

[elder sapphire]

ah

makes sense then I misunderstood what you meant

[grim ginkgo]

I'll have to check how N does it, but I haven't noticed an issue with it yet for Joyousspring

[quick steeple]

i have 60 or so mods, but i cycle through them, playing just a few at a time

[elder sapphire]

coward

lag your PC to shit NOW

[quick steeple]

i'm making a vanilla+ mod

[grim ginkgo]

Yeah, I have 15 or so mod folders in my balatro folder that I change the names for whenever I wanna switch over, hahaha

[elder sapphire]

interesting

[quick steeple]

what's the point if i play 50 mods?

[elder sapphire]

I just hoard stuff and sort it manually like a psychopath

[elder sapphire]

CHAOS

also it makes you see what is more suited for op stuff

[quick steeple]

but why make it vanilla+ then?

[hybrid steppe]

How many smods prs do you have that you want to make

[elder sapphire]

something something any mod is vanilla plus :3

[hybrid steppe]

Same, imagine having order in your life

[grim ginkgo]

Currently, it's this, and some conceptual stuff that I don't know if I'd actually be able to code, haha. I still wanna add a way to cycle through modded card-areas

[quick steeple]

the plus represents a neighbourhood of vanilla

in math terms

[grim ginkgo]

And I wanna go through Kino and see what's worth maybe extending to smods, from there

[elder sapphire]

I am not a mathematician

[elder sapphire]

I like my order incomprehensible to normal human minds

[quick steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighbourhood_(mathematics)

[hybrid steppe]

Should I make the PR for the joker modifiers then

[elder sapphire]

I also don't care :3

[quick steeple]

i know

but i do

[grim ginkgo]

Haha, every mod is a cryptid add-on, didn't you know?

[elder sapphire]

real

jen's is a calculator addon

[quick steeple]

i'm mostly using prism and garbshit recently, loving how they work together

the italian duo

[grim ginkgo]

Oh, I can see about that! It's set up generically, in Kino. I'll just have to make sure it displays it properly on vanilla jokers

[elder sapphire]

stamps suck

[quick steeple]

real, but the jokers are great

[elder sapphire]

real 2

[grim ginkgo]

My vanilla+ pack is Prism, Morefluff and Bakery together, which I enjoy quite a bit

[hybrid steppe]

Awesome

[quick steeple]

why do so many mods have poorly balanced consumables lol

[elder sapphire]

yes.

[quick steeple]

i love the concept for them though

[elder sapphire]

inverted consumables are stupid op

[quick steeple]

and the music is nice

[hybrid steppe]

I would love for it to affect non scoring jokers as well (Econ jokers) but it’s difficult doing it across the board (mail in rebate for example)

[elder sapphire]

rebate

[elder sapphire]

you should make pizza packs

pizza boxes

[quick steeple]

a bit of a limited pool

[elder sapphire]

yeah but they would jumpstart pizza

[grim ginkgo]

I honestly don't think there's any way to do it besides forcing people to adopt an ease_dollars hook that adds a variable to trace source

[quick steeple]

i already said that i was planning this for darkside

[elder sapphire]

huh

did you

[quick steeple]

yeah

[elder sapphire]

my amnesiac ass forgot

[hybrid steppe]

Yeah it’s just ugly code but it is what it is

[quick steeple]

here

[grim ginkgo]

I am starting an adhd filled project of a pizzaria deckbuilder, so prism better be careful

[hybrid steppe]

:o

[elder sapphire]

pizzeria*

[grim ginkgo]

This is why Kino adds Confections and have them consistently be underpowered

[hybrid steppe]

Meg, what are your thoughts on pineapple on pizza

[elder sapphire]

so they sucked on purpose?

[elder sapphire]

crime against humanity

[hybrid steppe]

Only valid opinion, thank you

[elder sapphire]

real

[grim ginkgo]

No, depending on when you last played them they were also buggy as fuck. But I try to generally design things on the safe side of the power curve. I might buff the confections, though, cause a bunch of them don't do much

[elder sapphire]

i mean I am a certified Italian what'd you expect

[elder sapphire]

close to December so yeah

[hybrid steppe]

Some have conflicting opinions tbh

[elder sapphire]

buggy and useless

[quick steeple]

chocolate bar is literally pot of greed tho, so it's peak in my book

[elder sapphire]

the majority is sane the rest are heretics

[grim ginkgo]

The mod only exists since february 🥲

[elder sapphire]

I USE POT OF GREED, WHICH LETS ME DRAW 2 CARDS FROM MY DECK.

[elder sapphire]

what?

wait shit

[grim ginkgo]

Somehow it's a lot less broken, haha

[elder sapphire]

I confused the mod

well I played it on release

all I know

[quick steeple]

somehow

i just realized that negative playing cards have the same issue as pot of greed

[grim ginkgo]

Haha, on release it was 40 jokers, no consumables 😋 I'm seeing through your web of lies

[elder sapphire]

make graceful charity next

[elder sapphire]

uh

[quick steeple]

since they are always positive

[hybrid steppe]

LOL

[elder sapphire]

I played before and after confections got added

[quick steeple]

no reason not to get them

[hybrid steppe]

Nice save

[elder sapphire]

I was in the "hoarding mods" phase

i also blabbered slightly in your thread

[grim ginkgo]

Yeah, there's no downside at all to them. They're just buffs for anything that cares about cards in hand

[hybrid steppe]

Wait is there a 12 angry men joker yet @grim ginkgo

[elder sapphire]

card advantage Jimbo

[elder sapphire]

i want a 5 guys joker for reasons

[grim ginkgo]

Haha yeah, I remember. I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to keep a consistent timeline for each of the mods in their hoards, haha

[grim ginkgo]

Not yet, don't have an effect figured out for it

[elder sapphire]

i mean I would've if i cared about it :3

[quick steeple]

at least i made so you can't get them in boosters in prism

[elder sapphire]

crossmod with our 12s

[quick steeple]

and i'm probably nerfing mirror

[hybrid steppe]

I’ll cook up something

[elder sapphire]

oh noo

i never used it

who cares

[quick steeple]

it's like, the most powerful myth card rn

it's not broken

[grim ginkgo]

That's a pretty good thing, already, haha. I can see why they're not in the base game, honestly, they're hard to design around, I find

[elder sapphire]

what if I told you I end up accidentally destroying cards without noticing every time cause I want like, 15 cards for flushes and nothing more

[elder sapphire]

negative deck jumpscare

[grim ginkgo]

I also think negative cards aren't great if they're too easy to get, because drawing a lot of cards is vv bad for performance, haha

[hybrid steppe]

Iirc it used to be a thing then was removed right

[elder sapphire]

thunk's fault

[quick steeple]

probably

[elder sapphire]

is that a lirc

[quick steeple]

they were in some screenshots

but we are not sure how they worked

[elder sapphire]

i like my hand size broken with burnt cards not negatives

[quick steeple]

i don't think thunk ever said anything about that

[hybrid steppe]

(What are burnt cards)

[elder sapphire]

go play prism

heathen

[quick steeple]

prism stuff

[quick steeple]

i love burnt cards so much

[hybrid steppe]

Ah

I shall play the mod soon, as soon as I am able to get back to my laptop

Rn all I have is unmodded, max 4x game speed on my phone

It’s killing me

[elder sapphire]

do pwease :3

[elder sapphire]

i like x4 speed

[quick steeple]

i more player acquired

[elder sapphire]

i

[hybrid steppe]

I’m an 8x-16x player myself

[elder sapphire]

you talking in Roman numerals now?

[hybrid steppe]

Teaser for next release

[elder sapphire]

real

tell us your secrets gulag

[quick steeple]

adding a joker that makes all numbers roman numerals

good luck reading the score

[elder sapphire]

aw fuck

well banner exists for a reason

[quick steeple]

better than the one that makes them all binary

[elder sapphire]

that's just funny

what

the fu-

[quick steeple]

got confused

[elder sapphire]

confuzzled

[hybrid steppe]

Going to -39 ante

[quick steeple]

i can bypass that

[elder sapphire]

stop using anti-puppy language

[hybrid steppe]

-naneinf blind requirement

[elder sapphire]

I'LL COMMENT OUT YOUR CODE

[hybrid steppe]

Switch default Joker to Roman numeral joker

[elder sapphire]

i am never taking Jimbo again

[hybrid steppe]

You risk hurting jimbo’s feels

[elder sapphire]

I'll be feeling Jimbo alright

[hybrid steppe]

Pause

[elder sapphire]

that lasts for a few seconds at most

Q1, more like q0

[iron solstice]

suggestion after seeing this silliness, an option to limit how many times certain tags can be redeemed in a single round? in particular, voucher tags should be capped at the number of vouchers that exist

not sure this is exactly the mod for it but it seemed vaguely relevant

[grim ginkgo]

I think it's more on Cryptid, or mods like it, that allow tags to spawn to that degree, to solve, honestly

[reef swan]

what about +handsize and +starting$ sliders? thoughts?

[grim ginkgo]

I don't think most mods really alter the expected balance of those, I'd say. But If more people think it'd be good, I'm up for adding it

Might make an 'advanced' tab in some way

[hybrid steppe]

kind of a slippery slope into becoming a more advanced debugplus imo

theres already #1372508275794513962

[grim ginkgo]

yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well

[hybrid steppe]

this is someone else's implementation but

[grim ginkgo]

I think the main goal for this is not to be just allow for creative mode, but more so to actually make playing with a bunch of mods better

Also, going to test a feature for #1340334060597285025 today that adds individually adjustable spawn rates to each item (based on #1338302514616995892). If that works properly, I'm porting it to Glue and hopefully adding UI so you can adjust spawn rates of items on a per mod + rarity basis

[hybrid steppe]

peak

[grim ginkgo]

I'm also considering potentially fusing what I wanted Playsets to be into Glue. I still need to actually contact the dev for Banner and see if I can either add the playset feature to Banner or port Banner to Playsets/Glue, and from there maybe add a way to actually make every single object have an adjustable spawn rate

[hybrid steppe]

food for thought: should spawn rates be adjustable? the rarity is there for a reason...slips into creative territory(?)

additional slots for playing with more mods already counters bloat

[grim ginkgo]

Yes and no. I do agree to a certain extent (per item adjustable rates would definitely fall more into debugplus territory), but adjusting the rates on a per mod and/or per rarity pool base is a bit more in line with what I think Glue is good for

for example, Kino is a standalone mod in its design intention. I don't blame people for playing with it in modpacks, but I personally don't think it's a great fit because it bloats the pool. Banner can help by turning off a bunch of the jokers that are there to allow for synergies that aren't necessary to have when you run multiple mods. But another fix would be to just be able to lower the spawnrate of Kino's common jokers, for example

[hybrid steppe]

right that makes sense actually

didnt consider that

[grim ginkgo]

You do have a good point in that it's probably good to keep in mind that I don't wanna turn this into an additional debugplus, though, haha

[unreal blaze]

THIS IS AMAZING

[shadow vale]

Great mod, it's really useful if you have a lot of mods installed, thanks!

[quasi lark]

@grim ginkgo Can you add an option to change the win ante?

I made a mod to set it to 10, but it's very limited

[quasi lark]

Add a "Reset Config" button.

[vivid rain]

@grim ginkgo +1 for Reset Config, any plans to add?

[coarse urchin]

Any chance you could add a slider that increases booster pack slots (as in, the amount of cards inside booster packs. Might be a challenge to change the UI, like, “Chose 1 of X cards”) for vanilla booster packs. Like, some mods add additional tarots or spectrals, making it harder to find vanilla ones, and if you run many different mods, could make it harder than intended to find the consumeables needed for certain jokers to scale properly.

Also, +1 for a reset config option.

[grim ginkgo]

Oh, I hadn't even considered that, but I'm up for that!

I'm finishing up an API for #1406740128231194644, but when I release that, I'll update some Glue things!

[grim ginkgo]

To Do List:

• Config reset
• Booster pack size changes
• Per reroll shopping limit (only allow 1 voucher to be bought even when voucher space is increased, so the mod offers more choice, but not more actual power, for example)

[coarse urchin]

Per reroll shopping limit would also be nice to have for booster packs. For instance, pretty sure Red Card is balanced around you only being able to open 2 booster packs each round.

[grim ginkgo]

Oh yeah, I'd apply it to every object in the shop

With a slider to let the player adjust

[coarse urchin]

Will that be difficult to code? Like, you should be able to buy the normal amount of items as would normally spawn in the shop per vanilla rules. When you reach the treshhold, will the remaining items disappear? How would that function even work?

[grim ginkgo]

Shouldn't be too difficult. I'm gonna make a lock appear when you hit the given limit

[grim ginkgo]

Biggest issue (for me, at least), code-wise with the new features is that it'd overrun the config tab, so I'm trying to improve the config set up. Getting there, I guess, albeit slowly

[coarse urchin]

Yeah I didn't consider the UI size. Adding multiple pages is the only thing that makes sense, as I don't think Balatro has scroll-function. That also wouldn't fork for me, I think, as I play on Steam Deck.