Victin's Collection [ALPHA] | 45 Jokers | 20 Blinds | New mechanics to come! 👀

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Open ALPHA has started!

This mod currently provides 45 Jokers, 20 Blinds, and 5 Tags.

New mechanics, including [REDACTED]enhancements and [REDACTED] are under development.

Expect bugs, unfinished content, and unbalanced content. Please help the developer by bringing issues such as bugs and balance issues to light.

Mechanical and flavor reworks may occur in the future, including potentially scrapping ideas if deemed unfun, uninteresting, impossible to balance, or simply not a good fit for this mod even if otherwise being good ideas.

Download it here: https://github.com/VictinZero/balatro-victins-collection/releases/tag/v0.0.0-alpha.2.0

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Here's some of the content currently available:

Ouroboros
Sell this Joker to refresh Hands, Discards, and the deck

Champion's Belt
X2.5 Mult

Each Boss Blind is a Showdown Boss Blind!

Syzygy
If 3 different Planet cards were used this round, balance Chips and Mult

Tyrian Patriarch
Defeat two Bosses before playing this (1 refresh)

[livid sinew]

wow thas the art i made a while back and completely forgot about

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Indeed it does! The Credit is in an info box to the side

[livid sinew]

yea i kinda forgot i made it in the first place, good to see it being used at least

[upbeat cipher]

The art is excellent!

Are you still working on your mod?

[livid sinew]

the isaac x balatro mod idea i think is cursed at this point (at least when i try it), but i do still have some remaining assets

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Question for players:

1. Have you played this mod?
2. Do you have a favorite Joker out of the 15 included in the alpha release? Or a favorite Blind from the initial 11?
3. Do you have any comments on bugs, balance, or other issues so far?

Answering these questions will help me plan the next content update. I have 15 working Jokers I could release already. However, I am waiting on two things:

• I want data from the current alpha to learn what bug or balance fixes I need to do;
• One of the internal systems is pending a rework that I would like to include in the next content update.

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Victin's Collection [ALPHA] | 15 Jokers | 11 Blinds | New mechanics to come! 👀

[ornate quail]

from what i've tried for now: ouroboros and lv ? death are my favorite jokers, and pariarch is my favorite boss, especially with the refresh mechanic. as for boss blinds, purpur prion is a bit too strong of a blind, it's effectively an even stronger flint and that was already one of the hardest boss blinds in vanilla. also the chaos is bugged, it says that it removes the debuff upon flush/straight played but i actually only had to highlight a flush to remove the debuff, not play it

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I had the same opinion of Purpur when trying it myself. I also find the theme a bit weird. I’ll see if I rework it or if I remove it.

It’s too late today, but I’ll see about patching Chaos tomorrow. That’s another boss I’m personally not fond of, but I want to see what other people think of it.

[ornate quail]

i like the chaos, its just bugged

but the mechanic is neat

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-# If you liked Patriarch, I think you might like some Jokers I have planned. But I need to lay the groundwork so they can even function first

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Maybe, but I think it could be impossible for some decks to satisfy. You could still defeat it anyways, but it’d be harder

[ornate quail]

yeah patriach is the coolest modded boss i've seen yet(i mostly play vanillaish mods so that doesnt say much, but it really is cool)

[ornate quail]

same can be said about the plant, so i think it's alright

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Thank you @slender urchin

-# The code was based on/copied from L Corp’s

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How does Chaos read in the Alpha again

[ornate quail]

you mean the ability description?

"cards are debuffed until played hand contains flush or straight"

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Ok. I had thought about including 3 or 4OAK as well

[ornate quail]

3 would be toooooo easy

pretty much any hand does it

would be the easiest boss blind by far

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I guess so

Maybe Full House or 4OAK

But I didn’t like it too much so I kept it as I first programmed it

[ornate quail]

i'd just wait to see how other ppl think of it

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I hope to get more comments but I haven’t gotten much feedback yet ^^’

[ornate quail]

welp keep on advertising i suppose XD

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I gotta but I don’t want to be annoying

New content would maybe help, but I wanted to test in a small scale

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@clever river the One is here if you want to play with it

[clever river]

Nice

[storm rapids]

help

oh huh it also deactivates immediately when the flush hand is selected

doesnt wait for it to be played

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Yeah I got that bug report

[storm rapids]

im sorry

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It’s fine

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I haven’t seen that warning before though

Must be new

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I'll occasionally post developments in the modding channels. That's for content that may take a while until it is introduced to the Alpha, or that I may rework in the future.

For example, there's this planned mechanic, and an Enhancement that makes use of it.

Still workshopping the wording ^^'

[gentle ibex]

running into an issue where this mod being enabled causes all runs to behave like i have Splash

is anyone else running into this or is it some bizarre mod conflict

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I’ve never seen this before. What version of SMODS do you have?

[gentle ibex]

i believe latest? 1031b

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I think the latest is 0302 probably

You’re like 4 months behind

[gentle ibex]

oh what the hell LOL

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Although to be fair

I didn’t test the released Alpha with 03XX

The dev branch worked fine, so I think the Alpha should work too

[gentle ibex]

ok thats crazy i downloaded this like yesterday lemme test this out 😭

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So, for a long time SMODS was stuck in the alpha release

In the last two days it made a beta release

However there have been some bugfixed since the beta release

Which I don’t think have been released

[gentle ibex]

this version right?

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I think so

[gentle ibex]

yeah still happens

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Try disabling half of your mods at a time and testing to see if the issue persists

[gentle ibex]

yeah i can do this tomorrow

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Unless no one had noticed it earlier, I’m inclined to think it’s an issue with another mod

[gentle ibex]

i do believe this yeah 🤭

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I tested (the dev branch of) Victin's Collection and cards are scored correctly.

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Up Your Sleeve is bugged in the dev branch, and presumably also in the Alpha release. It might be a SMODS issue, but we shall see.

[fiery thorn]

ISAAC REFERENCE!!!

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isaac and his isaac lived alone in a small isaac on an isaac

[fiery thorn]

It would be cool to have a challengue where you start with an eternal champion's belt and only hearts in your deck

The gambling of Isaac

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Some TBoI-themed modding projects have started, but I dunno about their status

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Indeed it seems to be a SMODS issue. Eremel said they'd try to fix it soon.

[fiery thorn]

tbh the only one I know is Isaactro

[gentle ibex]

ok its caused by a wip mod by a friend of mine nvm

[tight maple]

@upbeat cipher do any of your features mess with SMODS.always_scores?

for some god forsaken reason having both your and my mod enabled causes it to? always return true?

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Not that I remember

[tight maple]

altering the mod priorities so that my mod loads after yours fixes the issue for some reason?

[tight maple]

i. don't know why this happens but

if i call SMODS.get_enhancements() within the SMODS.always_scores hook it makes it so all cards always score

but only if i call it after the reference function call

whatever? it's fixed? but why the actual fuck

oh my god

it's because my hooked used a variable ret that i didn't make local

so it was calling some random ass global ret variable

probably why this mod and the mod order affects it

so there's probably a global ret variable in your mod as well @upbeat cipher i've already fixed it on my part but you might wanna look into it anyways

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Hmmm

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I don't think I ever use ret

It could be SMODS or vanilla

[tight maple]

not even in hooks?

[tight maple]

doesn't explain why the bug only happened if your mod loaded after mine

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If I search the entire codebase, it only finds vanilla instances

I could be hooking or patching something that prompts something else to use your global ret

[tight maple]

well in any case it's taken care of

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It doesn't look like vanilla has any global ret. SMODs has maybe two patches that don't define a local ret, but they could be using vanilla ones

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Here's a Joker using this planned mechanic. (Blood, or blood-like imagery.)

I imagine the Joker is currently too strong, so it might not even make it to an alpha release like this. But it'll be a while until then either way.

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@young otter ping

[young otter]

Woah :0

[storm rapids]

@slender urchin you too

[slender urchin]

^q^

[storm rapids]

^q^

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^q^

[fiery thorn]

the flesh card sounds absolutely fun while really chaotic if you have more like 4 on your deck

do flesh cards destroy other flesh cards?

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If one is to the left of other, of course

[sly heart]

this is peak

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Thank you 🥺

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I've had this Joker planned for a while, but I had expected it to be harder to implement than it actually was.
It should come in the next release, and with non-placeholder art if I don't procastinate on finishing the artwork I already stated.

||Binary Star||
||Your Planet cards are used 1 additional time||

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I might release some spoilers every day in anticipation of the next alpha release. I changed my mind about what Jokers to include next, so I do need to choose some replacements, but I already had more than enough for a set of 15

[fiery thorn]

This with constellation...

absolute yes

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Also, the next update should be comprised of 15 new Jokers only. New Blinds will wait for the upcoming SMODS update that might affect how Blinds are coded, so I prefer to wait until it’s released

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I see your Constellation and I bring you Astronomer

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Following on that, here's another upcoming Joker:

||Slingshot||
||Destroy your leftmost Consumable to grant X1.75 Mult. If it's a Planet card, X2.5 Mult instead ||

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Here's another spoiler for an upcoming Joker!

||Trapezist||
||Played cards with rank 7 or lower give +35 Chips when scored (Swaps after each hand)||

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What do you think it means? 🤔

[solid raft]

hayl yeahyuh

[solid raft]

good ending: 7 or lower <-> 7 or higher

bad ending: 35 of spades

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Answer: ||Almost! 8 or higher||

[celest apex]

Would be insane with eternal tag

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Eternal Tag?

[celest apex]

Yes

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What’s that?

[celest apex]

I meant sticker

Mb

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Well, if it has an Eternal Sticker, you can’t sell it

[celest apex]

What is a showdown boss blind?

[celest apex]

Yes

That's why it's op

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If you can’t sell it, you don’t get the effect 🤔

[celest apex]

Yes

But it's still op

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The final bosses of the game

[celest apex]

Bc more jokers = better right?

[celest apex]

Ah like verdant leaf

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Not any more than Diet Coke or Luchador 😅

[celest apex]

True

[celest apex]

Does it mean you gotta score 2X the normal blind or the hand type score?

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You have to score enough to defeat each Boss, but outside of the 1 refresh, you have to split the same resources across all three fights

[solid raft]

makes just as much sense

[formal tulip]

AWESOME

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https://tenor.com/view/homestuck-nepeta-cute-gif-5666407

[formal tulip]

.w.

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I'm gonna try something new today and not spoiler the image!

Double Negative
After 2 rounds, sell this card to create 2 Negative Tags

[mossy robin]

hi

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Hello, what don't you not think about Double Negative?

[mossy robin]

I don't think it won't be useful for Anaglyph Deck

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I don't not think you're not wrong

[mossy robin]

This is definitely not going to not get confusing real fast

I definitely did not try to not make mistakes

[solid raft]

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🤔

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Thanks to @opal socket, I now have a neat showcase menu for Jokers which I can use to take screenshots. Speaking of which, here's today's spoiler:

Wildheart
Each Wild card is also a Bonus Card (Swaps each round)

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Here's today's spoiler!

Jar of Teeth
Lose $1 per played card
Earn $12 when round ends

[fast kindle]

I'm definitely keeping an eye on this mod

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Following yesterday, another thematic spoiler:

Broken Arm
Decrease level of played poker hand to earn $6

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And another one:

Wrapped Candy
When Blind is selected, gain +3 Discards (5 Rounds left)

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Who let the Dog out?

Dog
When you get a Joker, this Joker gains +10 Chips or +2 Mult

Can you guess the three references hidden in this Joker?

[stone frigate]

I think I see 1, and that's the ||optical illusion dragon thing being used as the head of the dog, right?||

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I have no idea what that is

[stone frigate]

I am so sorry lmao

this thing I thought

the illusion was that you couldn't tell what way the head was facing

it kinda breaks once you first understand how it works lol (at least it did for me)

maybe I'm crazy lol

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I've seen this illusion but used in other ways

like a human mask

[stone frigate]

that's a good one, yeah!

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Here are the answers:

1. ||The pose (and to a lesser degree the effect) is based on the statue of Hachiko;||
2. ||The effect is based on Super Auto Pets' Dog or at least the effect it had back when I played the game;||
3. ||The breed is meant to be the Brazilian "caramel mutt".||

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SPEEEEEN

Hamster
After three rerolls, earn $20
(Once per round)
(3 rerolls left)

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I tested all the Blinds (except Chaos) in the new SMODS update and they seem to work. But let me know if it introduced some bug I didn't catch

I'll fix Chaos in the upcoming new alpha release

[rustic python]

i can make some joker art if you need

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At the risk of sounding repetitive do you have any examples

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Hmmm I like the clock

[rustic python]

ty

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Here's today's spoiler.

Chimera
If played hand contains 3 or fewer cards, played cards are considered face cards and all suits

I believe I have now all content and bugfixes I planned for this update, so I expect a new release this weekend.

[tranquil ocean]

The loop blind can put you at negative current hands!

I think I played against most boss blinds. I really enjoy how they force you to keep them in mind for the entire ante, because they're all a bit more of a puzzle to solve compared to the vanilla ones

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Huh, how?

[tranquil ocean]

By winning the earlier loop on my final hand, I reckon,

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Ah, so you start with 0 hands?

[tranquil ocean]

The loop made me play 3 blinds. Started the third with 0 hands, yeah

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That should be the Ribbon

Rouge Ribbon

-# I wanted to name it Lilac Loop or Lavender Loop but I think Cryptid has one with that exact name

Anyways, I'll either try to solve it on my own or see how Myst did it

[delicate merlin]

@upbeat cipher does champions belt use drawtsep?

[upbeat cipher]

No, but it could

Right now I'm only using it for two Jokers so it's not scalable

[delicate merlin]

I see

[unreal galleon]

good morning chat

[flat night]

the chat is dead

https://tenor.com/view/i-did-it-i-did-it-like-this-tf2-demoman-heavy-is-dead-gif-11168295428299159916

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what was never alive cannot die

[flat night]

KILL IT AGAIN

[unreal galleon]

nuh uh

this chat is so alive:3

[flat night]

if you say so :3

boykissersmoke

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153815324643299458/1350951666916130917/champions-belt-showcase.gif

Cool Joker currently playable:

[flat night]

me when i get lavender loop:

[unreal galleon]

me when X2.5 Mult

yk what

i actually personally think it should give +1 Joker Slot

so that you can always have it in your build

[flat night]

the isaac one gives damage

why shouldn't this one

[unreal galleon]

if theres inf equipment slots then it makes even more sense to do so :3

[flat night]

what?

[clear hazel]

every balatro run is actually a tainted isaac run

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I like the design as is, although I could tweak the number

[flat night]

make a t keeper run

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I’m not convinced it’s too weak currently

But if people give my that feedback I can tweak it

[unreal galleon]

its not that its weak, its just that you are going against showdown blinds 😭

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I also have Champion, which might also need a numbers tweak (and maybe a reflavor)

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Which I don’t think is a big deal

[unreal galleon]

wha

how

[clear hazel]

tfw 5 verdant leaves in a row /silly /j

[unreal galleon]

showdown blinds can easily fuck you up

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I think most of them are about as difficult as the average non-showdown Boss

[unreal galleon]

verdant leaf, the one that scales the score requirement up insanely high

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Vessel and Leaf are the vanilla outliers

Leaf a bit less

But as a Blind you just run into

It’s more impactful

[unreal galleon]

its 2/5

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Among the modded ones

Prion is definitely too strong currently

[unreal galleon]

not to mention the fact you gotta account for modded showdown blinds too, which are usually much more dangerous to go against early on

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But that’s even outside of this

The others I think are balanced

[unreal galleon]

whats prion

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Gold could be difficult if you’re relying on Base Chips

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Essentially makes every hand scale like High Card

[unreal galleon]

ah

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It’s the Showdown version of the Worm, that makes Chips scale like High Card Chips

[unreal galleon]

actually wait, what does that mean

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In-game, Worm reads that base Chips are equal to 5 times the level

By the way, much like there’s Tyrian Patriarch, I want some thematic Showdown Boss Blinds for the other Kill 6 Billion Demon demiurges

I’m thinking of one that caps your Chips to be equal to your money

[unreal galleon]

thats brutal

😭

what if im in debt

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1 Chip

I want to keep Black Gold, maybe with a different effect, although that was the original effect I had planned for Black Gold

At the time we didn’t have the technology

But I think the technology is here now

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Maybe it could cap the Mult then?

[unreal galleon]

capping the mult is even more brutal since thats usually what players focus on

💔

[unreal galleon]

with blind calc, nothing is impossible 🗣️

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That’s why it capped Chips 😭

[unreal galleon]

fair point

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The Boss that discards unselected cards instead of selected still needs a hook or patch

[unreal galleon]

i think its also not that bad, since you have small and big blinds to prepare some money for the blind too

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If I decide to implement it

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Yeah

Maybe it could scale off money

I also wanted some Bosses (non-showdown) that messed with the player’s money

Like the Thief:

Steals your money
5…

My next alpha release got delayed partially because I’m a bit lazy to wrap up the existing Jokers into a release but also because I’m complexity creeping it with Blinds

[unreal galleon]

mmmm

yeah i think blinds which fuck up ur money instead r also cool

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@mossy robin the duality of jimbo

[unreal galleon]

😭

[mossy robin]

i should make this 0.25X

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That’s more cruel

And you talk about The Thief that allows you to recover your money back

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This Blind was already in the alpha, but I think I'll go with the original name I had for it since I didn't like Rouge Ribbon.

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Sorry for the delay on the update. The new Blind features dropped and I got distracted making new Blinds.

Trying to make it work description-wise. I have yet to see if it's worth adding play-pattern-wise.
-# I might swap names with Black Gold, or maybe try and mix-and-match their effects if I find Golden Dragon lacking

[normal cipher]

Both feel as clear as shit to me

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Seeing both options next to each other can make it hard to separate them from one’s mind

The left one doesn’t clarify it’s not a real-time update, the right one that it looks at all cards

[lost cypress]

What's the sell value referring to?

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What do you think it’s referring to?

-# I prefer to ask before responding

[lost cypress]

Is it referring to the sum of joker sell values?

or something else

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Jokers and consumeables

[lost cypress]

My sleep-deprived opinion is probably of little value to you right now, so let me think about it for a bit

Both are good options, I like the former more but 'm not sure why.

[upbeat cipher]

Fixed the bug and in the process I found another bug which I fixed

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Reimplementing an effect. It's still missing some safeguards and calculation integration, but so far this went faster than expected.

[unreal galleon]

😭

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😭

[solid raft]

armed and DANGEROUS

[normal cipher]

Cryptid has a boss of the same name

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I’m aware. That’s why I had changed the name to Rouge Ribbon previously

But I don’t like that name so I went back to the original

[fallen agate]

what about Royal Ribbon and making it a deep purple color? (purple was the color of royalty)

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I didn’t think the icon looked much like a Ribbon. Also I already have two purple Showdown Blinds—Tyrian Patriarch and Purple Prion. (Though Prion might be on its way out.)

Also “Royal” feels too much like an adjective than a color adjective.

I’m trying to stick to “[color] [object]” unless the Showdown Boss is a reference. Although I think most Showdown Bosses so far are references

[normal cipher]

Rainbow Repeat?

@upbeat cipher

Still [color] [thing] naming...

[upbeat cipher]

Rainbow isn’t a color

But I like the name Loop since I already have the non-Showdown Boss Blind names the Loop

I was between “Lavender” and “Lilac” but based on my research the color I chose is closer to Lavender

[normal cipher]

Lime loop?

[upbeat cipher]

I originally was going to go with a lighter shade but it didn’t look good to me

[upbeat cipher]

I do like that one better than the other suggestions

But I’m not pressed to change it yet

If more people complain the I can move to that

Maybe “Lemon Loop”

[fallen agate]

you rang?

[upbeat cipher]

are you a loop too

[fallen agate]

uh
[looks down]
maybe???

[young abyss]

waow

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I'm postponing the addition of this Joker to the Alpha because the SMODS feature it uses is currently broken.

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Victin's Collection [ALPHA] | 30 Jokers | 17 Blinds | New mechanics to come! 👀

New release time! We're up to 30 Jokers and 17 Blinds! https://github.com/VictinZero/balatro-victins-collection/releases/tag/v0.0.0-alpha.1.0

[upbeat cipher]

I think in the future I'll try to post more frequent messages here, and maybe release smaller updates. We'll see

For now,

Terraforming
When round ends, transform your leftmost consumable into Earth

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Finally ported to 1.0,

The Red Hand
When Blind is selected, swap Hands and Discards

[sly heart]

whats that on the top btw

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🤔

It’s ||[REDACTED]||

[sly heart]

alright fair enough

[upbeat cipher]

Okay but it’s for my version of ||Zodiacs||

[sly heart]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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||You can level up poker hands (separately from Planets) and each has an unique effect||

[fallen agate]

aaagh i had that same idea for a mod but never made it cause of school T^T

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You can still make yours. This is like the 7th ||Zodiac|| idea and it's like 1 of 3 that affect ||poker hands|| IIRC

[silk edge]

butcher vanity mentioned 💛 ❤️

[clear hazel]

what where was butcher vanity mentioned

[fallen agate]

its not even related to ||zodiacs|| or stuff like that, its just very similar mechanically lol

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#1343670935122870342 message

[clear hazel]

holy peak

[upbeat cipher]

Here's a few… fishy Jokers

Goldfish
When round ends, earn $1 for each poker hand of tier equal or lower than winning poker hand

Clownfish
+2 Mult per level of all poker hands of lower tier
(Currently +0 Mult)

Starfish
+3 levels to…

In-game, Starfish provides a bit more clarifying text.

And Clownfish has a little bit of dynamic UI

[unreal galleon]

ooo, i like those wordings more

[young otter]

[upbeat cipher]

Artwork for Double Negative

[fast spruce]

seems lilke an interesting invisible sidegrade

[upbeat cipher]

I’ve already tweaked the numbers on this, so it might change more before even the alpha release

[upbeat cipher]

Thanks! What do you think of this?

[fast spruce]

could be fun as a common/uncommon

gives you something to do in the early game and allows for decent deckfixing

[upbeat cipher]

Yeah I wanted it to be Common but it might be too much deckfixing

[fast spruce]

it requires a decent amount of effort to get good value out of it though

it's a fun idea though

[upbeat cipher]

Yeah it’s tricky to use

I think Common might also make it too easy to run into it again and again

[fast spruce]

fair enough

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Now with art by @humble salmon

Binary Star
Your Planet cards are used 1 additional time

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FYI Wrapped Candy is bugged—it doesn't properly remove itself

I fixed it already, but I'll probably bundle it with the next release (it should be soon)

There seems to be an issue with Stheno but it shouldn't impact non-Endless runs unless you have Champion's Belt.

I got reports that Dagger doesn't work, but it works for me, and it works for some people, so for now I'm assuming it's not a bug with this mod

[hazy juniper]

@upbeat cipher apparently your mod disables debug mode, which makes debpugplus keybinds not work

[upbeat cipher]

It has already been reported and I already fixed it

I have enough Jokers for an update so I should have a new release soon

[hazy juniper]

Ah very fair

[upbeat cipher]

As a small preview of the next update, here's an upcoming Joker

Paranoia
If final hand of round doesn't contain a Pair, get a spectral card
(Must have room)

[upbeat cipher]

Alright, I fixed every bug I had planned to for the next release. All it's missing is: 1) choosing a name for a Joker; and 2) releasing it.

-# although I might add or rework a few Blinds ^^' I haven't decided yet

[ivory rover]

can i help with the name

[hazy juniper]

Rework the one that made me hate you

[ivory rover]

which one

we might hate the same one

[hazy juniper]

The one you have to do twice

With no refresh

[ivory rover]

ahh thats ok

that being ive rerolled it everytime ive seen it

[hazy juniper]

It's okay if you're doing well, if you're already struggling you're boned

[upbeat cipher]

Why?

[upbeat cipher]

@hazy juniper

[hazy juniper]

Oh that was a serious question

Idk I have not to like things that I don't like

Fr though it's punishing as hell for a normal boss blind

[upbeat cipher]

I mean it is Big Blind-sized

I think it’s fair

[hazy juniper]

It's like a mix between the needle abs water, but harder than both of them combined. It's an easy run killer if you're not already doing well

[upbeat cipher]

I think you're overstating how strong it is by comparing it to a mix of Needle and Water

[hazy juniper]

I mean... I never even have a problem with those most of the time. It's the second time playing that's really the problem where you might be down to 2 hands abs a discard, being somewhat generous, which gives you less ability to draw into a good hand than either needle or water tbh

[upbeat cipher]

I'm moving the effect of Black Gold to Golden Dragon, as it fits what I want Golden Dragon to be, and it's not as complicated as the old effect.

Golden Dragon
Base Chips can't be greater than 50% of money

[hazy juniper]

God some of these blinds do not belong in white stake

[upbeat cipher]

Now, Black Gold will instead be:

Black Gold
Debuffs Jokers with $5 sell value or more

[hazy juniper]

Please just add a toggle to disable all blinds from this mod

[upbeat cipher]

Hold on, I'm adding more

[upbeat cipher]

But with those two, I can balance them based on feedback. If people don't play them, I don't get feedback :P

-# by changing the number on the text

[hazy juniper]

I deadass might remove your mod then, sorry man but I can't with these

[upbeat cipher]

I can see what to do about them later. If you really want to, you can edit the mod's code to remove blinds you don't want very easily

Here's a new, upcoming Blind:

The Thief
Steals your money and escapes after 5 plays and/or discards

And here's two more!

The Mask
???
and
Malachite Mask
???

[hazy juniper]

The only issue with that is I'd have to host the mod in the modpavk myself instead of using a submodule and any updates would be manual. It's doable ofc and I'm not asking you to do any extra work just smth for me to procrastinate, lol

[upbeat cipher]

I mean, I was suggesting you do it locally, just for yourself 🤔

[hazy juniper]

Ah yeah I just... always have my modpack a perfect mirror of my local mods. To the point where o just clear them out and copy from my modpabk repo to updaye

[upbeat cipher]

@hazy juniper also what do you think of these three new Blinds

[hazy juniper]

The only one that doesn't make me wanna eat lead is the theif

[upbeat cipher]

I had thought you'd like the others but dislike the Thief

[hazy juniper]

Though this one is less bad than the other

[hazy juniper]

I'm always broke in balatro... I'd have no base chips

[hazy juniper]

5 is enough

[upbeat cipher]

Yeah the original version was 4 and but I found it a bit too tight

[clear hazel]

"Yoinked!"

[upbeat cipher]

@old elm @tranquil ocean have you seen my new Blinds

[tranquil ocean]

only the ones with text, haha

your entering a cruel era

[upbeat cipher]

I don’t think these are too bad

😭

[upbeat cipher]

If I changed this Blind to apply to Chips, total, instead of Base Chips, what do you think would be a fair scaling factor for money

5 times? 10 times?

[old elm]

I can’t wait for this shit to fully drop man

[upbeat cipher]

It's going to take a while, but you can enjoy the Alpha in the meantime ^^

[unreal galleon]

we

[upbeat cipher]

are

[unreal galleon]

venom

[upbeat cipher]

https://youtu.be/jJrF1ZbMDFg?si=qE1p11zo1ssdtyVZ

[hazy juniper]

Has there been a release since this?

[upbeat cipher]

Not yet

I expect one today

[raven forge]

syzygy mentioned

instant download

[raven forge]

how unstable is the dev branch?

[upbeat cipher]

Not very in terms of playability, but you should stick to the alpha ^^’

[fiery thorn]

Install banner mod, you can ban whatever you can I think

[hazy juniper]

I'd be fine with that... but it still disables debugplus

[upbeat cipher]

The dev branch shouldn’t disable it because I use DebugPlus for testing

But anyways

I have what I need for the update, I just need to package it into a release

[hazy juniper]

I mean the alpha because you recommend people stick to it

I know the dev brach doesn't but changing what branch submofules pull from is a pita ngl

[upbeat cipher]

I’ll try to make a release tomorrow

[upbeat cipher]

Victin's Collection [ALPHA] | 45 Jokers | 20 Blinds | New mechanics to come! 👀

New release! 15 new Jokers, 3 new Blinds, and 5 new Tags have been added!

Some of the new Jokers even have art! And I updated some pre-existing Joker artworks

A few of the new artworks by me!
-# Although Vector was referenced from CAIN by Abbadon. I've been thinking I should perhaps add an infobox of references to Jokers to make such things clear.

And here's some of the artwork provided by other artists!

Please let me know what you think!

@hazy juniper here's your new release!

[hazy juniper]

Isn't event horizon a 1 to 1 copy of another mod joker, including the art?

[upbeat cipher]

I don't know about the effect, but SadCube allowed me to use the artwork

[hazy juniper]

I'm not complaining or calling you out on it, it just seemed very familiar

[upbeat cipher]

I wonder if you're remembering it from when I posted it

Actually maybe I didn't

If I did I can't find it

Though I did find a message of me commenting Garb's Joker was similar to mine

KCVanilla also has this

[hazy juniper]

Yeah idk why it feels so fsnilisr

I'm probably conflating multiple things

[upbeat cipher]

Black Hole Jokers are a staple of Balatro mods at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else came up with the same trigger

Oh let me check Paperback

[raven forge]

they all look very very nice to me

[upbeat cipher]

Hmmm, I guess not

Though they do have something similar to Binary Star

[raven forge]

these as well, i LOVE the binary star

[upbeat cipher]

Thanks for the compliments!

And thanks for the artists who drew these beautiful pieces and allowed me to use them

[humble salmon]

i simply did my business haha

[hazy juniper]

Also I do like them a lot too

Sorry for not leading with that

[upbeat cipher]

It's fine. I think a lot of Balatro mods have Jokers that overlap in either theme or mechanics. Personally, I tend to think that as long as one of them is unique, it's not a big deal

[hazy juniper]

Oh yeah I don't mind exact repeats in function even, not at all. It's kinda nice in a large modpack ngl

[upbeat cipher]

I can't send the GIF of Humbleing Bundle for some reason

[raven forge]

gifs got banned

[hazy juniper]

Stickers too

[upbeat cipher]

But it's a Joker in this update which I had held back on developing for, among other reasons, having the same effect as one of Mika's Jokers

[upbeat cipher]

Huh did I miss something

[raven forge]

yeah, i was there :D

[hazy juniper]

A talk in #🍌・thunk-chat where thunk pretty much layed down the law based on his own personal dislike of them

[raven forge]

tbf a few people said something against them, it's just him, and it's also understandable

they also wanted to exclude some channels, i don't know which tho

[hazy juniper]

It's unfortunate especially the stickers to me

At least ing doesn't make much sense here

Where spam is not s big issue at least that sorta spam

[raven forge]

#🍌・thunk-chat message

[hazy juniper]

Lmfao

[raven forge]

huh

[hazy juniper]

I'm stuck with enojis

[raven forge]

oh i thought you hacked the matrix lol

[hazy juniper]

Stickers are 4x the size

[upbeat cipher]

Ah, I find that annoying because I had made GIFs to showcase some Jokers that only make sense if they're animated

well, not "only"

[hazy juniper]

The problem is I deadsss cannot see well enough to make out the details in emojis

[upbeat cipher]

Sometimes I just wanna showcase the floating sprite

And a GIF is lighter than a video

[raven forge]

yeah i think banning them in all channels was bad but whatever, maybe they change it

[humble salmon]

so you can make polls but not post gifs

[hazy juniper]

Also I use stickers different than most discorders around here. Not the default animated ones or squsre menes

[hazy juniper]

Furry trash instead

[upbeat cipher]

New mod art tho

[old elm]

Omg this is so fire what the hell

[warped summit]

I know this is like super old, but you can disable boss blinds with the Banner mod I believe

[upbeat cipher]

#1343670935122870342 message

[warped summit]

Yeah, I missed that

[upbeat cipher]

I thought it was funny

[upbeat cipher]

@raven forge

[raven forge]

yes i saw it

very interesting result i have to say

[raven forge]

https://github.com/VictinZero/balatro-victins-collection/pull/1 😇

[raven forge]

having fun with the mod so far, but The Spin is not working as intended i think

because i can just see what it discarded on the deck screen

[hazy juniper]

so I know I'm like half a week late, but I really like these jokers

unlike ymany of our blinds they seem fun and fit well in a vanillia+ enviroment :P

[upbeat cipher]

It worked well for me 🤔 did you play against it directly or from a Blind replacement

[upbeat cipher]

Thank you! Which ones have you run into in-game so far?

[hazy juniper]

tbh none yet, I've been debugging my pack lots, playing it none

also sick with a bad earache atm (swimmer's ear)

[upbeat cipher]

I hope your physical condition improves soon!

[hazy juniper]

thank you :3

[upbeat cipher]

@raven forge was it you who made a PR

[raven forge]

yes, #1343670935122870342 message

github's notifications sadly are absolute dogshit garbage so i didn't see your latest comment from days ago...will look at it

[upbeat cipher]

IIRC after seeing your PR I made a more robust fix in my local repo

i.e. test if G.hand exists, rather than testing if we're in the main menu

[raven forge]

uhmmmm, yeah that seems more logical in this case, you can close my PR then...i just had similar issues in some other mods and fixed it all in kinda the same way, since some didn't crash at G.hand

[upbeat cipher]

by the way @raven forge

[raven forge]

yes?

[upbeat cipher]

Note to self: I want to buff Broken Arm to at least $7

[raven forge]

oh whoops i never answered this: i think it was directly...however, i think it's cartomancer that's the issue here

[upbeat cipher]

Why do you think that

[raven forge]

because it changes the deck view

[upbeat cipher]

Yeah Cartomancer might be introducing cheating into the game then ;P

[unreal plume]

Hello

#🍌・thunk-chat message

so in response to this

maybe u could make a bunch of different effects a blind can gain when u "skip" it

it is not visible to you immediately either (i think it might be too easy then?)

so u get the tag, and get to have that blinds shop, but now instead of the downside being losing a shop its fighting a harder blind since you now have to deal with more "fog of war" since it is not immediately obvious what happened

[upbeat cipher]

My basic idea was to have the player either get a known curse or choose them from a pack. Curse can have various effects but the main one would be to apply Disenhancements.

Disenhancements are Enhancements that mostly act as drawbacks. They can be cleared by applying an Enhancement to a Disenhanced card

[unreal plume]

i think that works really well

give them a pack thats unskippable lol

and they have to pick their poison

i also like the idea of disenhancements

[upbeat cipher]

Yeah, skipping would select a random option, unless none could apply

[unreal plume]

i wonder if u could force the player not to skip

[upbeat cipher]

That’s an alternative I’m considering, but it will depend on the kinds of effects I want

I’m still not sure if the Disenhancements should be applied randomly or not

[unreal plume]

mm

yea

[upbeat cipher]

And other limitations

[fast spruce]

...unhancement(????)

[unreal plume]

like it should stand on the same level as skips

[fast spruce]

oh unhancement is already used by unstable, huh

[upbeat cipher]

Idk anything about that

I came up with the name a long time ago

@unreal plume example

[fast spruce]

oh that's cool

[unreal plume]

the one thing i would like to suggest is that the question mark sometimes feels like its on the next card over

[upbeat cipher]

And this is Me First!

Though a very old implementation by Flowwey

[upbeat cipher]

I think it’s less confusing when in hand because the question mark is visibly behind the card to the right

In the deck view it does seem confusing though

[unreal plume]

yea

[upbeat cipher]

Actually

Are cards smaller in the deck view

The position of the question mark seems different

[unreal plume]

this was an issue killing me when i tried to make a sticker at double size

[upbeat cipher]

@pseudo loom I think you ran into a similar issue right

[unreal plume]

cause for some reason, doing atlas with double size for stickers does not make it display at the same size as vanilla stickers

it still displays at double size

so i hooked some stuff in the rendering

and when i hooked it

[upbeat cipher]

Maybe report it to SMODS

[unreal plume]

it would be offset different depending on where the card was and its size

i figured it out eventuallt

[unreal plume]

i will

maybe

[upbeat cipher]

Do it

[unreal plume]

i have to update smods and make sure it isnt fixed

already

[pseudo loom]

Changing card sizes just sucks in general

[upbeat cipher]

I'm inclined to think that crash isn't my fault. Creating cards is very a standard procedure.

My guess is that the object type doesn't have a pool

If that's the case, I think the solution should be for whomever added that object type to define a pool for it

Alternatively, maybe it could be something that SMODS handles in SMODS.create_card if the pool is empty

[upbeat cipher]

@charred lion since chat seems to be hectic, maybe here’s a good place to talk

[charred lion]

alr

well perhaps it could apply the effects of one of those cards randomly

[upbeat cipher]

I think that’s not very useful

[charred lion]

so like what are you trying to acheieve with the card

[upbeat cipher]

Exactly, excellent question

I did realize I need to think more about what the answer is

This is one instance where I thought it would be a cool way to gain access to good but unreliable deckfixing

But I didn’t think too hard about the specifics

[charred lion]

hm

[mossy prism]

sigh

one moment

[upbeat cipher]

Can you send a screenshot

[mossy prism]

I need to check what joker I got

[upbeat cipher]

Also I’ll be right back

[mossy prism]

its hard to tell since now it just straight up crashes when i go into the previous run
I do have a brief moment to screenshot so one moment

any idea what this joker is

afaik it increases a random hand level by 2 and decreases a hand level by 1

[charred lion]

perhaps something like trading card/dna
like if first played hand of round contains 1 card, destroy it and add 3 random enhanced cards to your deck

[upbeat cipher]

Moody

[upbeat cipher]

I did consider that too, but I wanted it to provide more specific deckfixing.

Anyways, I’ll think about it on my own. I can show you some of my Jokers or Blinds which people or myself think are less vanilla

[mossy prism]

Yeah that guy

[charred lion]

sure

[mossy prism]

When I selected a blind it crashed

[upbeat cipher]

What mods do you have

Actually

[mossy prism]

oh god where do I start with that

[upbeat cipher]

Can you copy the top of that crash message above

That’s easier

[mossy prism]

Alright one moment

[upbeat cipher]

I meant in the chat

[mossy prism]

I did

[upbeat cipher]

I can’t open those in mobile

[mossy prism]

oh

[upbeat cipher]

A screenshot works too

[mossy prism]

a moment

god why is it constantly compressing itself into a message

[upbeat cipher]

But what’s the crash message at the top

[mossy prism]

Oh

[upbeat cipher]

Ah it’s an issue with Talisman

[mossy prism]

aaaagh talisman >:(
of course it was

[upbeat cipher]

@charred lion I don’t think these Jokers are complicated in terms of text, but I’ve been told that the complexity of the math behind them is outside of the vanilla scope

[upbeat cipher]

I haven’t bothered to make it Talisman compatible since I haven’t gotten any complaints so far

[mossy prism]

I see

[charred lion]

skyscraper is really interesting

you’d think it’d be hard to explain but the wording is totally understandable

is the math for lvl ? death really that complex?

[upbeat cipher]

The wording is easy but knowing how many Chips any individual card gives, especially after deckfixing, is hard

I also don’t think Lvl. ? Death is that complex but I’ve had people try to tell me otherwise

[charred lion]

maybe some example text for each rank would help

[upbeat cipher]

Again that depends on the current state of the deck. That’s why there’s an UI to track the amount in real time

[upbeat cipher]

I also think Goldfish and Clownfish have complicated wording, despite the basic idea being simple, by virtue of vanilla not having a template for these things

[charred lion]

yeah I mean something like showing the current values for each rank
like “A:+48 K:+43” and so on

[upbeat cipher]

I think that’s a bit excessive. But I can think about it

[charred lion]

poker hands of lower tier than what?

played hand?

[upbeat cipher]

Yes

[charred lion]

ah

that should probably be specified

[charred lion]

goldfish could probably benefit from some example text

that might help people figure out what tiers are faster

[charred lion]

I feel like the clarifying text makes it more complicated to understand

cause it implies something like “poker hand changes each round”

[upbeat cipher]

I don’t think it does, though. You don’t create Starfish every round

[charred lion]

oh wait I misunderstood the effect

[upbeat cipher]

What did you think it was?

[charred lion]

tbh aside from the tiers none of the ideas seem too out there

[charred lion]

I thought the ones that effected different hands were seperate jokers and “poker hand changes” meant the leveling up

[charred lion]

I think skyscraper could probably be a vanilla with some tweaks

[upbeat cipher]

@charred lion I’ve also been told some of my Blinds are more “puzzl-y” than vanilla Blinds

Tyrian Patriarch, Lavender Loop, and two or so other Blinds have tooltips in-game

(I think in the release it’s only Tyrian Patriarch, Lavender Loop, The Mask, and Malachite Mask)

[charred lion]

two of them are simply “play multiple blinds”
chaos should probably give you extra hands/discards
and I have no idea what the bottle does

[upbeat cipher]

What do you think Bottle does?

[charred lion]

“discards the deck” makes me think it like gets rid of all the other cards in the deck so you only have your current hand to pick cards from

[upbeat cipher]

You’re right

[charred lion]

oh

well thats definitely way out there

also for the loop and patriarchy what does refresh mean in this context

[upbeat cipher]

@charred lion same as this

[charred lion]

ah

so it gives you the option to refresh?

[upbeat cipher]

Patriarch does

The Loop and Lavender Loop don’t

Thus the Loop requires at least 2 hands to beat, and Lavender Loop requires at least 3

Thinking about it, maybe I should add a condition to prevent them from spawning if you don’t have enough Hands

[upbeat cipher]

Also I don’t think Chaos needs that kind of nerf, nor I like that kind of mechanic

[charred lion]

I feel like chaos would lead to many situations where you waste most of your hands/discards on finding a flush/straight

these are finisher blinds right

[upbeat cipher]

No

Against Chaos, you either need to find a Flush or a Straight or you need to power through your cards being debuffed regardless

I find it difficult that a build can’t do any of these

Kinda like the Plant

[charred lion]

oh just normal blinds?

[upbeat cipher]

Yes

Showdowns are named like [COLOR] [NOUN]

Normal Blinds are The [NOUN]

[solid raft]

me pulling out “HEX(FCB3EA) Doodoofart”

[charred lion]

well out of all of these the bottle is probably the most non vanilla

[charred lion]

replaces all your jokers with 8 ball

[upbeat cipher]

Interesting 🤔

[upbeat cipher]

I'm curious how people feel about this topic.

[sly heart]

I would suggest packing the utility and the mod in the same zip files, or link it on your GitHub page

[upbeat cipher]

I would link it, of course, but I'm not sure how I'd pack it in

If I could pack it into a single download, that would be better

[covert raptor]

with releases you can include a zip file
with just commits you'll have to have a link in your readme

[upbeat cipher]

Do you know how I could include another repo (without a release) in a zip?

[covert raptor]

i mean
do you know how to make a zip file?

[upbeat cipher]

Locally, yes, but so far I've let GitHub automatically handle releases

[covert raptor]

when doing a release, you'd just make a zip file of both mods' folders
for commits between releases, i do think github has a way to link repos together but idk how it works so uh. look it up lol

(releases automatically include a .zip and a .tar.gz of the entire repo, but you can add your own files such as a zip of preprepared mod folders)

[cinder pivot]

not any different than minecraft mods

yeah you get that geckolib gurl. You GET that pehkui

[gloomy egret]

wow this is interesting

[upbeat cipher]

Thank you! :3

By the way, it's outdated but Doctor Flamingo made a wiki page for my mod :D https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Victin's_Collection

[median tundra]

so uh does your mod has a buch of placeholders or is it me messing up something

[upbeat cipher]

It does have a lot of them still

See “[ALPHA]”

The mechanics work though

[median tundra]

balala

[median tundra]

your mod crashed my game

does it have any dependencies

need*

note that i crashed by rerolling the shop

fr

[upbeat cipher]

Not right now

[upbeat cipher]

I feel like that's either a SMODS bug or a bug with another mod

[upbeat cipher]

@fast spruce @unreal galleon I see hooks/functions from your mods at lines 10 and 12/13 respectively. Do you try to create arbitrary consumables anywhere?

It might also be something in update 🤔

[upbeat cipher]

What were you doing before the crash?

[median tundra]

well i was playingnormally

oop typo

and i got bored

installled your mod

started a new run

go to a shop

reroll

death ensues

thats pretty much it

[upbeat cipher]

If you just rerolled from a shop and it crashed, I’m inclined to think it’s an issue with another mod or SMODS

[median tundra]

Idk, I'll have to look at it tmrw

It's 0:42 and I have uni tmrw

Eepy

[upbeat cipher]

Bonsoir

[median tundra]

Heh

??

Is that french

[upbeat cipher]

Yes

[unreal galleon]

i dont think so, no

[upbeat cipher]

Applied a vanilla shine shader to it

How does it look?

Also, I have a concept for a new Sticker, but it might be similar to Temporary in that it's applied by effects

[glad sapphire]

Is it safe to download from dev branch?

@upbeat cipher

[upbeat cipher]

Download the release

[glad sapphire]

Fair

[upbeat cipher]

I don't think it would crash but it might clutter pools with Jokers that don't do anything

[glad sapphire]

Dw I took the release

[upbeat cipher]

Let me know if you run into issues with the multistage Boss Blinds

Part of the plan for the next update is to recreate them using Myst's BlindExpander

[glad sapphire]

Sad, that blind really screwed me over

(placeholder is slingshot)

Btw is Growing Tree's art a placeholder too?

[upbeat cipher]

The only Joker that should have the hand with the Ace is Up Your Sleeve

the rest are a relic of when the top rightmost artwork of my atlas was the placeholder

[glad sapphire]

Doesn't seem like this

[upbeat cipher]

Yeah, I didn't update all old Jokers to use a proper placeholder image

What do you the following wording does?

Prevents death and sets Hands to 1
(9 lives left)

[raven forge]

prevents death 9 times (or 8 or 10 times (i'm bad at counting)) and sets hands to 1 permanently (?) when it does so

[upbeat cipher]

hmmm and how does the death prevention work

[raven forge]

it prevents

the death

and in the special case one would die from getting 0 hands, you get reset to 1 hands

wait i'm dumb

you 99% die from 0 hands

(sorry i forgot most people's runs end with game over and not crash)

[upbeat cipher]

you're playing a Blind and don't score enough: what happens then?

[raven forge]

you get another try

[glad sapphire]

Does it work like Mr.Bones or not?

[upbeat cipher]

I know how I want it to work ;P I'm asking how people would interpret the wording

[upbeat cipher]

🤔

[raven forge]

okay, 1 hand left, you play and don't score enough -> you are now still at 1 hand and joker shows (8 lives left)

[upbeat cipher]

That's the intended effect, but I'll note that Mr. Bones doesn't work like that

IIRC this is the wording I have in the dev branch

@raven forge Mr. Bones automatically wins the Blind with that wording

[raven forge]

oh

[upbeat cipher]

I'm thinking of just writing "Prevents death" and changing Mr. Bones' wording

[raven forge]

no please not

but then again

you have that username for a reason xD

[upbeat cipher]

-# I've already changed some vanilla Jokers

and no one commented on it yet

:P

[upbeat cipher]

what do you mean

[raven forge]

vanilla wording hater

[upbeat cipher]

Ah I thought you had changed your mind

I'm willing to provide a setting to choose whether vanilla Jokers keep their wording or not but I'm not sure how to do it

[covert raptor]

+1 hand if 0 hands left and blind is not defeated

[covert raptor]

something similar to how my flavor text option works, i imagine. use loc_vars and return a different key depending on option
https://github.com/wingedcatgirl/MintysSillyMod/blob/main/jokers/atheismcorner.lua#L27

[upbeat cipher]

I'm talking about vanilla Jokers not modded Jokers

[upbeat cipher]

That describes a different effect

also I don't like that wording

[covert raptor]

yeah, put your rewording under j_jokerkey_alt, take ownership of the vanilla joker, and do something like

loc_vars = function (self, info_queue, card)
local key = self.key
if Victin.config.vanillarewrite --[[or whatever]] then
key = key.."_alt"
end
return {
 key = key
 vars = {
   --original vars go here again
  }
}

[raven forge]

for some reason, this mods makes me unable to use debugplus

like, the tab key and other keybinds just doesn't work anymore

[upbeat cipher]

Try updating

[raven forge]

i'm only latest alpha branch already :/

[upbeat cipher]

Are you sure? That was an issue with previous versions of the alpha but I had fixed it in the latest one

[raven forge]

ahhhh yeah sorry i messed something up

should be fine now

[raven forge]

the code around line 691

happens when selecting any playing card

[raven forge]

ignore this, i was using bignum in talisman

[upbeat cipher]

I’m glad so far most bugs reported to me have solved themselves

[raven forge]

maybe this is a real one

[upbeat cipher]

What does it read

[raven forge]

wdym

[upbeat cipher]

I’m asking what does the error message read

[raven forge]

huh? i posted the crash log?

[SMODS victinscollection "content/blinds/chaos.lua"]:34: attempt to call method 'debuff_card' (a nil value)

[glad sapphire]

He's on phone and too lazy to download the log

[raven forge]

oh right makes sense xD

[upbeat cipher]

This phone obfuscates the file manager so I’m not even sure how I’d access the file

[upbeat cipher]

Also what were you doing

[raven forge]

good question...sorry

[chilly wave]

@upbeat cipher YOU

YOU

PLANET CARDS CRASH THE GAME

DUE TO YOU!

[upbeat cipher]

huh?

[chilly wave]

it was you

i figured it out

FINALLY

[upbeat cipher]

I don't see anything that would indicate the issue from that report alone

What were you doing?

[chilly wave]

well i tested every mod it could be

it was yours

[upbeat cipher]

@chilly wave

[chilly wave]

uh

using a planet card?

(also uno cards do it too)

[upbeat cipher]

I mean, unless you can be more specific, either on what you were doing, what part of the code caused the issue, or which other mod is at fault I don't know what I can do

[chilly wave]

only your mod was at fault, after using a planet card when it levels up your hand.

no idfea otherwise

[upbeat cipher]

I don't have any other bug reports about this subject, and with over 80 mods it's hard to tell what interaction doesn't work

Maybe the new Planet level colors are part of the issue, but I'd need to at least be able to reproduce the error to fix it

But it seems like a comparison error, so I'm guessing that's not the problem

[upbeat cipher]

How did you test to arrive at this conclusion?

[upbeat cipher]

@chilly wave 🤔

[chilly wave]

well i removed every mod one by one and tested the bug

when it stopped, it was yours

so when i put all the mods in except yours

it worked

also i wasnt trying to be mean and another mod might be at fault but idk

[upbeat cipher]

Could you try starting with my mod and adding half of the mods at a time?

If you find a half that doesn’t work, split that half into halves and repeat

[upbeat cipher]

I couldn't replicate it

[old elm]

Update when

[upbeat cipher]

:<

I want to get back to working on the mod

This month I was busy

Hopefully it'll clear up (though I also know I'll be busier come later months)

[upbeat cipher]

Do you have any balance feedback?

[old elm]

Nope actually love the way it is now

[ivory rover]

YES

THANK YOU

I THOUGHT IT WAS CRYPTID

FLARK YOU VICTIN (Dont say this to him or ill skin you)

[upbeat cipher]

Talisman tends to break every mod

But I’m still not sure what’s the cause of the problem, or if it’s even my mod that’s the issue

[upbeat cipher]

Wait it’s Scorge

😭

[upbeat cipher]

-# bump

[coral hazel]

I'mma test this

[upbeat cipher]

Not spoilers of upcoming content necessarily, but some ideas I'm considering

Letter Opener
Leftmost Booster Pack each shop is free
and
Planetarium
+2 Planets in Celestial Packs

[upbeat cipher]

Planetarium in action

[sly heart]

this peaks

[sleek acorn]

Victin, how did you get the card with nine soul layers to also get the edition shaders?

[upbeat cipher]

Oops sorry I didn’t see your message. (Could’ve pinged me.)

You have to manually apply the Shaders, as other people have done. The code should be on GitHub

If it interests you, I think it’s worth commenting on the SMODS server so maybe someone can make it into a feature

[sleek acorn]

ah, makes sense. I’ll poke at your code again. I didn’t know if there was some shortcut I was forgetting
-# tbh I forgot that you can manually put shaders on the soul layer. Even though Hologram does it

[sleek acorn]

no worries mate. It’s not anthing I absolutely have to have before my first alpha releass

[upbeat cipher]

To be fair it’s annoying because you do have to hardcode it if you want it to look right

For example my Negative is probably still wrong

[sleek acorn]

there’s no “detect edition, and apply that shader to the soul layer(s)” generic function, I assume?

[sleek acorn]

negative is always weird

[upbeat cipher]

Negative is just a vanilla example. The same issue would occur with modded editions

[upbeat cipher]

The issue is that Editions can have custom draw functions or other things going on which wouldn’t apply automatically

[sleek acorn]

uggggh, true. Didn’t think of that.

[upbeat cipher]

Paranoia
If final hand of round doesn't contain a Pair, get a Spectral card
(Must have room)

I don't think I had shared a video of Paranoia before, although I did share the art

[rancid sky]

Hi, you still working on this?

[upbeat cipher]

Slowly but yes

[rancid sky]

Do you have link for it?

[upbeat cipher]

It’s in the first post of the thread: #1343670935122870342 message

[rancid sky]

Thanks a lot, my phone was not scrolling up

[upbeat cipher]

For me, I can scroll up by clicking above the “back” arrow and below the top bar listing battery level, connection, etc.

But it seems more like an oversight than a feature

[rancid sky]

I just needed to restart my phone I feel silly

[upbeat cipher]

I’m glad you managed to fix your issue

[rancid sky]

I just downloaded your mod

[upbeat cipher]

How are you enjoying it?

[rancid sky]

Sadly I had to go to work, so yet to try it

[upbeat cipher]

Don’t worry about it ^^ take your time

[rancid sky]

Thank you

[rancid sky]

So just started playing your mod and already see, two incredibly fun Jokers Humbling Bundel and Moody, but really excellent

[rancid sky]

However other jokers land gaslamp and skycrapper just not that useful

I tell you what incredibly useful, the dog!!

94 mult and 300 extra chips, just insanity

[upbeat cipher]

Thank you for the feedback. I’m glad you enjoyed it

[upbeat cipher]

I want to add face-down card synergy eventually, which Gaslamp is intended to enable. I’ve already buffed it once, I’ll consider revising

I think Skyscraper isn’t as bad per se, though maybe there’s not enough support to make leaning on it worth modifying your deck for. I’ll consider bumping up the numbers and maybe if it could have a good Joker combo

[rancid sky]

Absolutely, enjoy playing your mod. Ya once there more synergy I can really see those Joker shining and getting their full potential

[glad mist]

seems pretty neat

[vivid moss]

wiw oeaj nid

wow that was so bad how did i fucked up that hard

anyway

wow peak mod