#Friends Vs. Balatro

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candid oasis
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This modpack aims to add every (and I mean every) card from the game Friends Vs. Friends to Balatro!

This mod pack adds a new mechanic: a Weapon slot on the right side of the screen, with a special Weapon card that gives you Mult for each card played.

The jokers and consumables can changes how your weapon functions, how you score, or even how you should skip blinds or discard cards.

The alpha of this modpack was just finished; soon, I'll have one of those fancy web pages lmao

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here's a picture of the weapon slot

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wild kelp
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are you using a new version of lovely or smth?

candid oasis
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oh yeah

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I'm on the latest version of lovely

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I believe that's in the readme, but I should put it in the release notes

candid oasis
gleaming aurora
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I think the default weapon that always spawn in a new run is a bit overtuned

wild kelp
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I didnt cba to update lovely atm

compact breach
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Super cool

cyan stump
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the gun cards are a pretty fun mechanic tbh

candid oasis
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I'm actually working on starting runs at a higher ante

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because 1-5 are kinda pointless with the card lmao

candid oasis
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unfortunately, it's a little too busted by default
which is why I think they need a slight rework

cyan stump
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personally i think you shoulnt start with one unless you choose a FVF deck

candid oasis
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that's also fair

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it does make pretty much everything else in the game obsolete lmao

candid oasis
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oh wait I already replied to this message 💀

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my bad lmao

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rae can't read; it's official

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lemme add some more content in here tho

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for example: I'm working on new decks! fvf has a lot of card backs, so I feel obligated to use them somehow

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here are the three in there now

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I have to think of some more lol

candid oasis
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news flash: thought of something

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unfortunately, not every card back can really be a reference

cyan stump
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Balancing :D

candid oasis
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balancing is an illusion

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speaking of that, though

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I kinda autopiloted on most of the personality cards and like 90% of them give mult lmao

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I need to change that

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got another one down

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cyan stump
# candid oasis here are the three in there now

Rework idea for the bada dexk
Start with a weapon
Cards scored with a weapon trigger their on hand effects
(Synergy with metal cards and gold cards, maybe even jokers that require hels on hand cards)

candid oasis
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well the baba deck is a bit with a friend

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that is a cool deck idea, tho

cyan stump
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I dun get it but alright

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Mostly tryna rework cus i sont like the fact its purely vanilla in some way

candid oasis
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yet another deck

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I'm thinking of starting the run with some money (probably $10-$15) because the jokers cost more when they're negative

cyan stump
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Dint know FvF was chill like that thats a badass card back

candid oasis
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Fr

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I actually have no idea how you even get that one in game 😭

candid oasis
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saving a seed for the abyssal deck that I need to play later: 6D2C9WNM

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for now I have to work lmao

pearl ibex
candid oasis
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negative pareidolia + canio lmao

candid oasis
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big news: the next version will have the weapon cards show up only on fvb decks (friends, baba, abyssal, etc.)

keen frigate
candid oasis
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unfortunately the method of implementation is extremely jank, but still

candid oasis
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two new buffs added

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having a consumable that just wins the blind is kinda nuts, but -2 hand size seems appropriate

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we're rollin

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there are now more buffs than weapons in the game

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which should make the booster packs more reasonable lmao

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but beyond that, when starting a run with an FVB deck, you get 5 extra consumable slots

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I considered making another cardarea, but I decided that I didn't want to put in the work again lmao

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as I'm making these, I'm trying to think of possibly synergies with other cards

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so, for example, pareidolia/canio/dingo as a combo

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although you'd have to get pretty lucky for that

keen frigate
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Idk what this game is but the mod looks cool!

pearl ibex
keen frigate
pearl ibex
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You said you didn’t know what the game was

neon onyx
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FRIENDS VS FRIENDS MOD. HOLY SHIT.

neon onyx
# wild kelp

game crashed like this when i try to use the mod; unsure why

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i think i fixed it.

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THERE HE IS.

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THERE'S MY BOY.

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this is such a cool mod GOD FVF REPRESENTATION MAKES ME HYPED

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IT'S ANTE 5

clear finch
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based fvf enjoyer

candid oasis
# neon onyx

yeah
I'm trying to figure out how to make the game start at a higher ante lmao

candid oasis
neon onyx
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how will debuff cards work?

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and

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god forbid

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the nuke

candid oasis
neon onyx
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the nuke just

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destroys everything

candid oasis
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so for example, the current big head plan is +25% blind size, +2 hands or smth

neon onyx
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it crashes yOUR GAME

candid oasis
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maybe it deletes all of your jokers are you get one legendary 💀

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that reminds me

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I have to get back to that abyssal/canio/dingo run

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that was nuts

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totally normal, average run

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things have gone horribly wrong

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keen frigate
candid oasis
candid oasis
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even more added

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just so many

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just noticed the extra card typo balatrojoker

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who's the fool now

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I do think profaner is the best card I've made yet

keen frigate
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Removed 50 score from blind size???

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That's incredibly weak

candid oasis
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true
I upped it to 100, but it's really meant to be an earlier ante thing

keen frigate
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Still, why not make it percentage based?

candid oasis
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there are other cards that do that

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small head reduces the size by 50%, and move faster reduces it by 10%

pearl ibex
candid oasis
pearl ibex
candid oasis
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to be fair, the personality cards only show up in one deck

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but I try to make some playstyles more synergistic with cards in my mod

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counterpoint:

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that's why I like the dooper card too
it incentivizes playing until the last hand, at a certain point

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keen frigate
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Jesus christ

candid oasis
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yeah all the personality cards are a little silly

modern moat
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yeaaah one of my favourite fps games

neon onyx
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i just wish it got more love

candid oasis
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fr

neon onyx
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did you make a tag for the fvf packs?

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so that they can have a chance to be guaranteed

candid oasis
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actually lemme do it rn lol

candid oasis
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I'll say this again: I'd love to see any bug reports/typos/requests/fixes anyone has! I'm in this for the long haul lmao

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I think the new cards/updates in this version make a few things more fun

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card profaner is a personal favorite of mine

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one major update that's planned next is starting the FVB decks at a higher ante 😭

candid oasis
neon onyx
candid oasis
neon onyx
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what

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how

candid oasis
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you gotta update steammodded

neon onyx
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h

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how

candid oasis
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oh

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just delete the steammodded folder in the Mods folder

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and install it again

neon onyx
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ah

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got it

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done

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you gonna uhhh

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add card sleeve compat?

candid oasis
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maybe, at some point
i'm not too worried about inter-mod compatability at the moment

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the only exception to that is Taliman (because it's easy)

neon onyx
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baba's deck is gonna be wacky consideringi can use hand size jokers and just get hell abank

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bull's gonna go crazy with this deck 😭

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AND RUNNER TOO.

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OH SHIT.

candid oasis
candid oasis
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first challenge

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isn't too hard, but still

pearl ibex
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7 consumable slots a_ab_look_stare_peek_smile

neon onyx
candid oasis
neon onyx
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you should make challenge decks for like. all of the known character groups

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i am curious though

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how will you implement helper and wild cards

candid oasis
neon onyx
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WHAT IS THIS

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candid oasis
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oh wait

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I never added the deep fryer lmao

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whoops

neon onyx
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could make it so that it has a chance to literally destroy played cards

candid oasis
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that's funny lmao

neon onyx
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even worse. it could get a buff per burnt card

candid oasis
neon onyx
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oh my god wait.

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pokermon's type stickers.

candid oasis
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new title screen in the works as well

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although it should probably be orange and purple

pearl ibex
candid oasis
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the orange looks alright too

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I think I will keep the darker colors tho

neon onyx
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I GOT ANOTHER MOD (color splash)

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AND

candid oasis
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new menu

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now if I figure out how to make shaders my life will be complete

modern moat
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oh no

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shaders

candid oasis
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we're now JokerDisplay compatible gang

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candid oasis
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spot the difference

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in other news: debuffs are a thing now

candid oasis
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For the next few days, I'm only going to be focused on balancing changes, so that's going to be majority of the next update

candid oasis
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dingo got the biggest nerf, I think

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use to be half the card's rank, but that scaled way too fast

candid oasis
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all the balancing is done for now! I much prefer where everyone and everything is sitting right now, but I'll need to get some playtesting done to see

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insane pull

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this has to be my favorite debuff

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keen frigate
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Interesting

candid oasis
candid oasis
neon onyx
candid oasis
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true

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for now dinghy is small

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neon onyx
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for some reason

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the mod actually disabled jokers from scoring.

candid oasis
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the updated version fixes that

neon onyx
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i.

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didnt even notice that.

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oh this is cool.

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candid oasis
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Balala balatrojoker

neon onyx
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is it

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supposed to do that

alpine frigate
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hey so i have a request/bug with controllers. your basic pack and friends pack use the standard controller UI "use with rb" but some of your cards require the card to be selected with a mouse and click "select" which is not possible with controller.
see here similar example >> https://discord.com/channels/1264429948970733782/1347141566690492499
and here >> #1228825966940393483 message

SDM_0 has a pack with similar issues and when brought up to them, they created a patch for it
see here >> #1228825966940393483 message

I was wondering if it would be possible to impliment the same solution for your packs so its usable on controllers

alpine frigate
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I tried a basic one from what SDM posted and put it under a lovely.toml

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/UI_definitions.lua"
pattern = "if (card.area == G.jokers and G.jokers or card.area == G.consumeables and G.consumeables) and G.STATE ~= G.STATES.TUTORIAL then --Add a sell button"
position = "before"
payload = '''
if (card.area == G.consumeables and G.consumeables) and card.ability.consumeable and card.ability.set == "Weapon" then
base_attach.children.use = nil
end
if (card.area == G.pack_cards and G.pack_cards) and card.ability.consumeable and card.ability.set == "Weapon" then
base_attach.children.use = G.UIDEF.card_focus_button{
card = card, parent = base_attach, type = 'select',
func = 'can_pick_card', button = 'select_card', card_width = card_width
}
end
'''
match_indent = true, I dont know if there are any functions that are missing but it replaces the greyed out buy button with a select button that works to pull the card

candid oasis
candid oasis
# neon onyx

nope
in the latest latest version, I fixed it lol

alpine frigate
errant rapids
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Boss, can you add a language pack?

candid oasis
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I would need some other people for that because I only really know English lol

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but I can put it on the list for sure

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what language in particular are you looking for?

keen frigate
candid oasis
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I'll give it a look right now

keen frigate
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had to update lovely

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also, why is bp/brainstorm incompatiple with personality cards?

candid oasis
keen frigate
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i love this mod and how unreasonably unbalanced it is

keen frigate
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i swear something is wrong here

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theres no way these are the actual odds

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i havent been seeing any x2 and a bunch of x0.5

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while using the personality that makes other personalities

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i played the straight flush and t crashed

candid oasis
candid oasis
errant rapids
cyan stump
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Where csn i see the latest ver of the mod felt like i just downloaded the old one twice by mistske

candid oasis
candid oasis
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I'd love to include it in the mod, if it's alright with you

candid oasis
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the latest release fixes it

neon onyx
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i think sable needs a ssslliiggghhttt rework

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just a

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just a little bit.

errant rapids
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Of course, adding multiple languages can allow friends from different countries who love balatro to play this fantastic mod

candid oasis
candid oasis
# neon onyx

it's supposed to be just the katana that gets a buff lmao
I need to go back and fix that

errant rapids
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@Raevyn
Simplified Chinese, if you make a language pack, I can help you make another Traditional Chinese one

candid oasis
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That would be amazing!

candid oasis
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in other news: a QoL update- the card descriptions open to the left now

keen frigate
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I feel like some of the cards need a rebalance

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Not to nerf everything to the ground (cus it actually makes this mod really cool), but bring some stuff up to the level of everything else

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Like... football helmet??

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Completely useless

candid oasis
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helmet did get buffed to -1000, but I see your point

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this release is the one I need the most people playing tbh

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I need to iron out any strange behavior before I really get to anything else

errant rapids
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NICE, I noticed that the code for the weapons is not in default.lua, I will finish the full Chineseization tomorrow and explain what other text is not in default.lua!

candid oasis
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everything should be in here

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...except the weapons. goddammit

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hold on 😭

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I'm cursing myself for being so lazy earlier

errant rapids
candid oasis
errant rapids
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Don't worry, take it slow. This mod is too addictive for mefool

candid oasis
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once you translate it, let me know so I can add the language + credit to the next release

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btw, to everyone else
if you want to translate the mod, I'd be eternally grateful
just lmk what language you want to translate and send the file

cyan stump
candid oasis
cyan stump
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Spanish

candid oasis
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nice

errant rapids
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Missing "k_fvb_personality =" and "undiscovered_hotcard", I've already added them in the Chinese version, this is the fully Chinese version.

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errant rapids
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I also found an unadded " hands until reload" and "hand until reload", I don't know how to add them

candid oasis
candid oasis
errant rapids
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Strangely, the translated content will not be displayed in the game

candid oasis
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Although you have to call the file zh_CN.lua

errant rapids
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I'll try again

errant rapids
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It's strange that the language still doesn't change, never mind, it doesn't affect the mod's status in my mind

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errant rapids
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That's weird, re-downloaded it from github and it worked!

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I'm so depressed

candid oasis
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Interesting

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To be fair, in earlier versions it was hardcoded

candid oasis
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ngl I'm not sure what the next thing I should work on is

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maybe more challenges?

errant rapids
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Maybe add some more negative statuses to make the game challenging, like lost weapons or something like that

candid oasis
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True

cyan stump
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@candid oasis alright i can do it now pass me the file

candid oasis
cyan stump
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thanks il edit it now

cyan stump
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oh yeah for the moment im just traslating the stuff i know i never played this game lmao so for example if dither and banding have traslated games someone let me know

keen frigate
candid oasis
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the only reason they're only available on one deck rn is because I was stil balancing them

cyan stump
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there ya go

the chances of this file being fucked due to a mistake in my part are above 0

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actually above 15%

errant rapids
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You can make a personalized joker pack and have personalized joker cards appear in the normal game

candid oasis
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oddly enough the spanish translation isn't working

candid oasis
errant rapids
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@candid oasisBiggie, can you see if the negative status of this card doesn't work

candid oasis
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Yeah tbh I forgot to make that work 😭

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Its dropping in the next update trust

errant rapids
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ok

cyan stump
errant rapids
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Tested and shown to be good

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candid oasis
cyan stump
errant rapids
candid oasis
# errant rapids 3.18

btw, do you just want access to the Github repo so you can make translation updates directly?

errant rapids
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Okay, I saw that there are still a lot of unused materials in your PNG files in this mod. I feel that the potential of this mod in the later stage is very huge. However, I don't know how to write code, otherwise I can help you complete this great mod. But I have also found some problems, that is, this mod is a bit too supermodel in the early stage of the game. Can we make the weapon values increase with the increase of the bottom bet, so that both the early and late stages can greatly enhance the gaming experience

candid oasis
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oh I see what you're saying
yeah the original plan is for the friends vs friends booster packs would actually show up more (so the weapon upgrades are more frequent)
but I need to figure out how to make that happen 😭

errant rapids
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I had the AI do a balance report on the weapon values for me and tweaked a version where the values aren't over-modeled in the early stages, so you can work on it sometime

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By the way, our communication was done using translation software and may not have flowed well.

candid oasis
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it's okay! I appreciate that you're taking the time to talk about the mod

errant rapids
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I'm now testing exactly what the state of the data is with the version I've tweaked to the later stages of the game

candid oasis
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I think the new values on the cards are better for sure
tbh they were way overtuned 😭

errant rapids
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Haha, I didn't adjust the English language package, with the English version some of the values will still show the previous

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The score may be a bit slow to go up in the late game, I think this buff can slightly increase the appearance rate, or add some more cards with +10% damage, +20% damage or something like that respectively to the mid-late game

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errant rapids
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I have a bold idea for the katana, how about one blast per slash
key = "katana",

pos = { x = 1, y = 2 },

min_damage = 20,
max_damage = 30,
max_ammo = 1,
miss_chance = 5,
reload_time = 1,
sleek veldt
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Balance-wise, what's your goal for this mod?

candid oasis
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uh

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I need to tone down the weapons 😭

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but beyond that, I want to end up with the mod being vanilla-adjacent
not really compatible (that'd be pretty rough) but not super busted, like some other mods
-# cryptid

sleek veldt
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Haha, I was scoring 20k on my second blind 😛

candid oasis
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yeah that's kind of the problem 😭

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what's ur run looking like

sleek veldt
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The booster packs, am I supposed to be able to grab every card from them?

candid oasis
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you have seven consumable slots for that reason (although I've been thinking about taking it down to like 4-5)

sleek veldt
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I'm currently on Ante 3, struggling to do anything that isn't winning in one hand 😛

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I really like the core mechanics, though. Making buffing the cards in your hand and the weapon the core mechanics of the mod really makes it feel like a different type of game, strategy-wise. Though I'm not bumping up to strategy yet, because the balancing is a bit very very strong, haha

candid oasis
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yeah 😭

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I think the Laika card doesn't work right because I had to put something in an if statement and I didn't

sleek veldt
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Playing on the Friends Deck, and it gave me Clustr Jr., meaning every card in my deck at this point is a mult card, and every card I draw in my opening hand gets upgraded with +100 chips, haha

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Ah, that explains things! I died trying to figure out how she worked 😛

candid oasis
candid oasis
candid oasis
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in the most recent dev version, those are based on odds instead of automatically applying 😭

sleek veldt
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I also have 2 brasshoppers, so I'm definitely not running out of ammo in a reasonable amount of time, haha

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I think generally 50 ammo might be overkill for any weapon, with how your system is currently set up

candid oasis
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I will say the fvb mod is fun to bring into ante 8 +
once the game actually starts 😭

candid oasis
sleek veldt
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is big mag also supposed to reload the weapon immediately?

candid oasis
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yeah

sleek veldt
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I also think either I don't understand Health Up, or the effect may not be what it's tooltip tells me, as I definitely don't seem to be getting +50 chip upgrades to every card in hand, for every card in hand

candid oasis
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oh did i not update that 😭

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it's supposed to be 10 per card

sleek veldt
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I think with that in mind, certain ammo sizes are just too big, because I'm able to get so much money in between running out that I just buy every friends pack and never reload, just waiting for big mag to pop up

candid oasis
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true

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I'm considering making the big mag give 5-10% instead of 50%

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and maybe not reloading 😭
but big mag does have a pretty good synergy with one of the debuffs

sleek veldt
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Hitting the millions now 😛

candid oasis
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incredible bugfixing going on rn

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okay I fixed it lmao 😭

sleek veldt
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Died on ante 11, even with +2500 bonus chips my kings didn't save me anymore

candid oasis
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😭

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the joker that used to be the most busted was FKF_Dingo since it gained half of destroyed card's rank as xmult

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and it destroyed every card you discarded 😭

sleek veldt
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I really like the concept of the weapons, but I kinda wish they had more impact or synergy. Though I guess that's also you not having implemented even a third of your concepts yet. The main thing I'm running into is that it's kind of hard to feel like I really get to play with the cards because the balancing makes some of them incredibly strong, and others not that strong at all. I think the way ammo works may also need a look, as I don't really see a reason currently to pick the low-ammo weapons. They're down for too long, which makes them quite incidental, and can only really handle helping through a blind if you only play small hands, while the high ammo weapons easily carry you, and have the chance to recover all ammo before they run out, due to items

candid oasis
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I see

sleek veldt
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especially because the weapons make retriggering cards a lot stronger, the reload system kind of punishes overshooting the goal. It's an interesting punishment, but the run I'm on now, using the 6 ammo weapon, feels like the weapon is a lot more just there sometimes, rather than core to the gameplay

candid oasis
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in other news: the latest dev version has vouchers

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candid oasis
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I've considered making the weapons reload per card played rather than per round

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but the reload time buf wouldn't really do anything if I did that lmao

sleek veldt
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What does Stevie Gull's first line of ability text mean?

candid oasis
sleek veldt
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I don't think that triggers

candid oasis
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hmm
let me check

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you're right, it doesn't
that's odd

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I should probably change all of the reloading jokers to the end of the round tbh

sleek veldt
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2 more runs done, both reaching the billion points mark, I really like the addition of weapons, but I do think the ammo system or the damage system might need a change. With basically 8 antes where I can't really die, i have quite some time to build up a weapon to be good. Increasing its damage two or three times immediately off-sets the weaker damage compared to the low ammo weapons. Especially when the low ammo weapons scale slightly slower with the ammo increases

candid oasis
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oh wrong reply

sleek veldt
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I don't know a lot about Friends vs Friends, so maybe it's against the flavour, but I would also love the weapons to have sligthly more identity from each other, rather than increasing damage or ammo. Everything kind of feels like a minigun due to the way balatro's scoring works, haha

candid oasis
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but yeah I made a typo in the code where it checks the key 😭
this is the fixed version

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candid oasis
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there's a flamethrower in the game

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so it's going to apply an enhancement instead of doing direct damage

sleek veldt
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Are you planning on making the weapons care about any of the qualities of the playing cards? I think that might be an angle to explore, because I definitely felt like I was ignoring most of the base mechanics. Hand types, enhancement or suit really didn't matter much, as the weapon's are indescriminate

candid oasis
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that's a good point

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I'll consider it

sleek veldt
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55k points on round 2, haha

candid oasis
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to be fair, the friends deck is kind of where I was like "alright, let's make this busted"

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I think the rest of the decks are (mostly) normal

sleek veldt
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Do personalities count as jokers?

candid oasis
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they're jokers

sleek veldt
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No feedback, just that I did another run and managed to get the Queen chips joker to +100.000 chips and that's not balanced but it was very fun

candid oasis
flint python
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Just began the pack! Is it supposed to let you pick all cards from your (The mod'ss) booster packs?

candid oasis
flint python
# candid oasis yup 😭

I finisihed my first run with the mod pack! it was actually really fun. I didn't run into any issues, atleast not that im aware of

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Maybe I did. I’m not sure if I saw it right. But the first weapon card you start with, I thought it showed +20 mult on one or two of my cards whenever they scored. Except the card only goes up to 12, I believe?

flint python
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However, I think the mod is really cool! Keep up the good work :)

candid oasis
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okay so I made a very silly code error

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local damage_range = { 0 }
for i = 1, (card.ability.extra.max_damage - card.ability.extra.min_damage) do
    damage_range[#damage_range + 1] = i
end
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so this is how I made the card damage for some odd reason 😭

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so for the beginner weapon, this would make a damage range of 1 -> 8, but somehow it still worked properly

candid oasis
candid oasis
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I forgot 😭

sleek veldt
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I think I grabbed the latest version that was on your git!

candid oasis
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really?

sleek veldt
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yes, but let me check just to make sure

candid oasis
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oh do you mean like

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the latest one in the releases?

sleek veldt
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ah the version doesn't change, but your current repo is probably not the one in releases, huh?

candid oasis
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yeah 😭
I keep forgetting to update the mod version

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although I'm about to ship a new release anyway, so it's not that big a deal

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It'll be out in like 5 😭

candid oasis
flint python
candid oasis
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it's all good! I need as many people playing as I can get anyway 😭

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I'm glad you're enjoying it so far!

flint python
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It’s a really unique concept!

errant rapids
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Purchasing coupons in version 0.4.1 causes the base Joker to refresh frequently in the store

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Nope, the store refreshes a lot of this clown without buying coupons too

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The same is true for 0.4.0, which is a bit ridiculous. By the way, can ordinary card bags and gold card bags only refresh weapons now?

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little sphinx
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i love this

candid oasis
flint python
candid oasis
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I have no idea what I'm doing wrong tbh

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code-wise

candid oasis
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nobody in here or in the smods discord knows (or they're just ignoring it, I dunno)

flint python
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Maybe a genius like me (I have no idea what I’m doing) needs to take a look at the code

candid oasis
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so I've solved the case of the infinite jimbos

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but the cards don't show up like they should

flint python
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What was the issue with Jimbo?

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As in, what caused it

candid oasis
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so apparently when there isn't a valid card to generate, Jimbo appears

candid oasis
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okay somehow I fixed it

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FINALLY

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now people can stop complaining about not getting the cards in the store 😭

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the weight is really high for now, but just let the record show

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it works

errant rapids
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Haha, thank you for working hard

errant rapids
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Another bug was discovered. Debuff cards purchased from stores can be superimposed

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candid oasis
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Interesting

candid oasis
candid oasis
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note to self: check out divvy's preview compat

sleek veldt
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Excited to play the new update! Is it mostly system and balancing changes compared to the version I played?

candid oasis
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er
it's actually just bugfixes 😭 I'm working on balancing today

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but there's some vouchers now!

candid oasis
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this is the version with the balancing 😎

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it's really just to the first weapon mainly, but still

errant rapids
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Pretty

candid oasis
candid oasis
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Made some challenges while I took a break

candid oasis
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cash money

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probably gonna change this to a common

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actually hold on

neon onyx
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ooh; have you added this to balatro mod manager?

candid oasis
candid oasis
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how do we feel about this card

amber marten
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Yummy

candid oasis
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back from my college trip, working on this now

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candid oasis
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it's not working yet, but we're getting there

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it only retriggers the reload

candid oasis
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working on this too, while I wait for a solution to the movie card

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neon onyx
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OOH

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A NEW BOSS

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goes crazy