Please, help me understand why exactly my heavily modded Balatro is crushing

[dawn mantle]

People somehow manage to get like 140+ mods work with each other, I don't even have a 100 mods and it is already a crash extravaganza. Crash avoider mod isn't helping. Crash screen have too much text instead of simply saying "mod A and mod B are conflicting with each other, delete one of them"

[foggy matrix]

don't put so many mods at once

[dawn mantle]

Extra funny reading that from you 🙂

On serious note - I'm gladly update any mod or delete any conflicting mod(s), I just don't get which mod(s) exactly are causing problems

When Balatro crashes during the loading, it is at least puts the name of problematic mod at the highest string on the crash screen. But my Balatro crashes after I play the hand and puts SMODS at highest string, but it is the SteamModded itself, if I delete SMODS - no mods will work at all

[cinder ferry]

You’re using new calc smods with likely old calc mods

[dawn mantle]

Is there a way to know if a mod an "old calc" or "new calc"?

[atomic burrow]

have the same question

[bleak zinc]

Take a look at your mod list and check them in their respective discord thread here. Any complain about old calc/new calc stuff is probably already said there. Alternatively, revisit their github and check for how long ago have they been updated, tho in my case i got ancient mods unupdated since months ago and they work fine, so case by case it is.

[foggy matrix]

What I meant was that you should try to put a few mods in at once, check if they behave, and then do the next batch, etc.

My modpack is tested, not simply piled

[frank jay]

Do you have any tips for testing batches of mods? I ask because sometimes mods can crash the game in very specific situations

[foggy matrix]

What do you mean specific situation

[frank jay]

like "Having X joker and opening X modded booster pack crashes the game"

I've had crashes on high antes and I can't imagine myself replaying up to that ante while testing mods, so I was wondering if you have a routine specifically for testing

[foggy matrix]

It depends on what the crash/bug looks like

Sometimes the crash log will be very specific about what mod causes it, sometimes it will be very vague

The approach will be different

[frank jay]

yeah, I've had really vague log crashes on high antes and it's driven me crazy. I've been sticking to only having recently updated mods installed, so they have a higher likelihood to be compatible with new calc

[foggy matrix]

Did you pinpoint on what exactly caused the crash

[foggy matrix]

Like these

[frank jay]

for this case I saw Bunco and MoreFluff in the traceback, but I didn't know about the discord yet (got the mods from awesome-balatro) so I didn't post the crashes here.

[foggy matrix]

Morefluff isn't newcalc ready

[frank jay]

thanks for the tip, I didn't know that

is there a thread/place that says which mods are oldcalc and which are newcalc?

[foggy matrix]

You can take a look at my modpack list, it's not every mods, it's not very accurate too, but I will say it's 90%

[frank jay]

okay, thank you so much for this!

[dawn mantle]

I started checking GitHubs for how long ago interesting mods were updated and then remembered - I don't even know how long ago SMODS was changed from "old calc" to a "new calc"? Should I only leave the mods updated in january 2025 or december 2024 is OK?

[bleak zinc]

Generally mods that mess with Jokers are the one you need to worry about, but some mods like Pampa has its main source outdated yet a person has gracefully opened up their own branch to bring said mod up to speed

Deck skins, Aura (Animated Joker), Galdur (Stake Management), Less Intrusive Stickers, Custom Blinds and Stakes, are all safe (at least in my experience)

This is the mods i play with, bar Codex Arcanum cause the mod broke again with SMODS update, and Themed Jokers i was not vibing a lot.