Playing Cards with special abilities. Tried making this mod a while back, but it kinda failed miserably.
Suggestion Form: https://forms.gle/GzpT4yKixh8FwdHo8
#Custom Playing Cards
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pastel needle
Cool idea!
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ty
swift latch
Speical <-
pastel needle
Are you doing a 52 card deck with each one being unique? Do you think that you'll reuse effects?
pastel needle
Sure sure, I was just curious what your design goals were
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@mellow ocean
mellow ocean
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epic 🤑
modest flare
question. which of these looks better?
pastel needle
I see the idea with the left one but the right one looks better for sure
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glad parcel
May I perhaps suggest cards of non-standard numbers? (0, 1, pi, golden ratio, 11, 32, 64, 128, 256, ect.)
modest flare
it's been a thought
glad parcel
Granted, as you already have a chess queen, it wouldn't be out of order to suggest the other chess pieces, would it?
modest flare
There is a suggestions form
glad parcel
Oh, there is?
swift latch
Oh, there is?
top of thread
glad parcel
Right, I do apologise for my quantity of suggestions in advance.
rustic dagger
What if I suggested a Jeremy card,,,,
modest flare
then it would be suggested
austere ibex
The scholar's mate gives me vibes of Dungeons and Degenerate Gamblers x Balatro crossover
modest flare
there's a scholar's mate in dndg?
austere ibex
there's a scholar's mate in dndg?
The card it reminds me of is Queen's Gambit, very nice art for both of them.
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pastel needle
Should full-art playing cards have a white edge like the jokers do?
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no
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pastel needle
can any of these special cards be Deathed?
swift latch
Yooooo
modest flare
can any of these special cards be Deathed?
yes
you can't retrigger the On Play effects tho
pastel needle
also you should probably put a white outline on those 4 cards
they're hard to see on the dark background
modest flare
really?
i think it looks worse with the outline
i can lighten the background tho
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fun fact the card description UI has 4 4s on it for the Wild Draw 4
rustic dagger
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rustic dagger
i just realized that the suggestion i made would be very powerful with cryptid
it already pretty powerful but still
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it's also probs not getting added
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reworded
pastel needle
should be 2 in 6
modest flare
lol
pastel needle
(or if you want something more logical then 2 in 5 or 2 in 7)
also I'd suggest calling it the Twombstone instead of using the number 2
modest flare
1 in 3 is fine
glad parcel
Lovely!
austere ibex
If we're suggesting cards, might I bring up D&DG's cards which can be either of two numbers depending on the situation. You could have a 9 that can also be mirrored into a 6, or a 4 mirroring into a 7, or a 10 that can be played as a 1 (not an ace).
verbal crane
Just cashed in my own idea for a card- Have no idea on if it's too strong or if the idea was understandable, but it's at least worth a short for a first try.
modest flare
Just cashed in my own idea for a card- Have no idea on if it's too strong or if ...
i like the idea, although I'm not adding a whole suit.
verbal crane
Understandable. We could always make it something like a 7 or 9, then
modest flare
probs a 6, fits themetically
verbal crane
Harmonic 6. Very fitting for the source material
modest flare
indeed
verbal crane
Also, is there a consumable tab thingy for Collectable cards yet? Mainly asking because I can't find anything that shows off the Collectable cards
verbal crane
Then I might be missing something...
verbal crane
Ok, now they show up
pastel needle
lol
modest flare
DnDG reference
pastel needle
Doesn't score as in, it can help make any hand for hand purposes but anything like Fibonacci wants nothing to do with it?
modest flare
yeah rank-wise
pastel needle
Feels surprisingly balanced
austere ibex
Oh yeah, can trading cards get enhancements? If so, how do they interact with being turned to stone?
pastel needle
I mean they probably just stop working surely
modest flare
Oh yeah, can trading cards get enhancements? If so, how do they interact with be...
If a trading card is enhanced it stops being a trading card
verbal crane
Ah, so Trading Cards are Enhancements
pastel needle
That's fair
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trading cards now sort properly
midnight nymph
cool
verbal crane
Nice. Also, I just now saw the Mane 6 card, and it looks amazing
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ty
verbal crane
Time to do a pure 6 run (however that may be done) with Mane 6s for ×1.25 Mult each. XD
verbal crane
Nice. Mane 6 and Cryptid are about to go ballistic together, with how many retriggers they can do.
Also, I now realized the unintended irony of me, 'Twilight & Sunset', bringing an MLP reference into this. Intentional or not, that's damn funny
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pastel needle
I would've figured a Lucky Cat connection
modest flare
nope just :3
pastel needle
I don't think the effect matches the theme very well but it is what it is
verbal crane
Cheeky bugger
rustic dagger
:3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
modest flare
good luck getting money with this one
(i'm going to reword it but it's consecutive digits starting from the 1 at the start of the golden ratio)
modest flare
def changing this ability to be more comprehendible
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ability changed
pastel needle
it's neat but it's too ambigious about if this works while held or scored, and when this card itself is able to score
does it only work in flushes?
does it always score but can also make flushes?
modest flare
it does not always score, if you assume that that's on you
all abilities that don't specify are on scoring
pastel needle
I would mark down like Stone that this card has no rank
modest flare
i'll think about it
pastel needle
could just be at the top, "Diamonds, has no rank"
modest flare
the main thing is that's more of a design choice with all trading cards since most of them are missing a rank, suit, or both.
so it's easier to specify when. card has a suit or rank than when it doesn't
pastel needle
maybe it'll feel more intuitive in the proper context yeah
verbal crane
Hmm... If you're willing to take multiple ideas from the same person, then I think I got an interesting source we could make one from, if a bit awkward to actually make since I don't know what it'd exactly do.
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spark bramble
i have a question. how do you get the trading cards and custom
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Trading Packs, The Exchange Tarot, or Collected Deck
spark bramble
aight gotcha thanks
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pastel needle
Wwwwweird
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#1279275441009459222 message @verbal crane there is also discarding two haunted cards
verbal crane
Loadsa cards!
modest flare
Might change to to draw 2 or 3 EXTRA cards
verbal crane
Also, just being curious, is it possible for someone to suggest multiple cards? (Mainly asking because I got another media-referencing idea in mind)
modest flare
Yes you may suggest as many cards as you want
verbal crane
Nice. Especially since my ideas tend to be very experimental
Just cashed it in. (Also, I'm down to supply reference pictures if you don't remember the designs of the reference that well)
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k
verbal crane
So, do you need any reference pictures?
modest flare
Yeah I don’t get the reference (although I might not add this one cuz the chips calling and deck thinning is pretty powerful)
verbal crane
Hmm. Fair point- I'm always down to reinterpretations of it, though. I'll send the reference through DMs, if that's fine with you.
old monolith
Do they lose phantom at the end of the round?
modest flare
Hmm. Fair point- I'm always down to reinterpretations of it, though. I'll send t...
Thats fine
modest flare
Do they lose phantom at the end of the round?
It is physically impossible to win the blind without your last action being playing a hand
modest flare
No cards could possible have phantom at end of round
old monolith
Oh okay nevermind
I misunderstood
I didn't read the updated phantom description
The old one confused me
verbal crane
As it did with me, Digi
modest flare
Glad the updated one was more comprehensible
old monolith
Yea it's much more clear
Yea, nichely useful for drawing cards that you wanna keep in your hand
Like steel, gold, or stuff that synergizes with jokers
Anyways yea, these cards are cool. Love the idea of more unique playing cards to mix in, kinda like how stone is
verbal crane
Like steel, gold, or stuff that synergizes with jokers
Maybe even Wilds if you're looking at the rare Blackboard run
old monolith
I will say that this seems particularly niche, since it's a worse 6 that's only useful if you get other manes. Compared to the other ones I've seen which are pretty self contained
verbal crane
Funnily enough, when I initially pitched the idea for it, I was thinking of it being like a Suit, like the '[Rank] of Collectors' trading cards
modest flare
I will say that this seems particularly niche, since it's a worse 6 that's only ...
I liked the idea, and I feel the payoff for getting 5 or 4 of them is pretty good
old monolith
Maybe instead of needing other Mane 6s, it could work off of any 6s played with it, but only gives 0.05 mult per 6
So it can still work with other 6s
And if you get other Mane 6s they can stack their mult
Would still keep the idea of them being strong when used together
But keep it useful even without multiple Mane 6s
modest flare
I see what you’re saying but I think requiring more effort (getting deaths or even cryptids) to get a strong payout (X2 Mult per card) is fair. Also X1.2 Mult is a bit bad for max benefits.
old monolith
Difference is that X1.2 would just be if you play a full hand of 6s with just one Mane 6
Which would be a 5 of a kind, which goes from 8 mult to 10
Maybe could make it X1.1 per other 6, instead of X1.05
But I just think the current version takes too much effort to benefit from compared to the other ones that do stuff even without you having to build around them after you get it
Even twilight mentioned this wasnt their original idea behind it
modest flare
The original idea depended on other harmony cards being used in a single hand
verbal crane
And even then, I was willing to work with Math to have it be changed to fit with the other Trading Cards
modest flare
i just don't see the issue with a trading card requiring significant effort if the payoff is so large. I think that's where our ideologies differ
old monolith
Then you're not understanding my point
verbal crane
Can we just say 'creative differences' and put it there?
old monolith
I'm not saying it shouldn't require effort for a big payoff, I'm saying it shouldn't require effort to get any kind of payoff
modest flare
i disagree with that.
verbal crane
Can we just say 'creative differences' and put it there?
Again. Besides, the same could be said with the Jack in the Box.
old monolith
Not at all
Jack in the box does something even without you having to build anything around it
This is literally just a worse 6 until you get more copies of it
old monolith
Could make it X0.20, to keep that same max value as the 0.25 for each other that it has now
But yea that'd def be better
verbal crane
Yeah, that definitely works as a win-win situation. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to balance a destruction effect as a Trading Card ability
old monolith
lol
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verbal crane
So, now we can get up to ×1.80 Mult on a full Mane 6 hand (plus more with other mods that can let you play more cards, like Cryptid)
old monolith
Also shouldn't it read as X1.16?
modest flare
no
old monolith
Then that implies it reduces mult
old monolith
Oh, then should probably clarify the (Currently X1 Mult) Like those cards do
Cause without that
It reads as if it'd reduce the mult
modest flare
I don't think that's really neccecary given it can only counts during played hands
old monolith
I mean
modest flare
im not sure if i should be counting the highlighted cards in the ui generation
modest flare
that's not really a fair comparison
old monolith
Yea it is?
verbal crane
Even then, all cards give ×1 Multi by default, yet they don't say that as it's redundant
modest flare
that's a direct statement of a constant amount of XMult
old monolith
Even then, all cards give ×1 Multi by default, yet they don't say that as it's r...
Well yea, but when a card is giving an X mult that isn't 1, the card should stat that their mult starts at 1.x or else it can lead to misunderstanding
modest flare
Gives X1.16 Mult implies it is scalingby 1.16 XMult for each Mane 6 (+ X1.16, +X2.32, +X3.48, etc)
old monolith
The description could be like
X1.16 Mult plus an additional X0.16 Mult for every other Mane 6 in played hand
But if you wanna keep it as is then sure
I just think it could lead to misunderstanding
Just doesn't feel very clear compared to how vanilla clarifies mult for other playing cards
modest flare
Steel Joker is my reference, and the XMult counter isn't part of the explanation on how the card works, i'll consider adding an XMult counter but probably not
old monolith
That's a joker though is the issue
The game deals with jokers and playing cards differently
And like I said, Steel even clarifies that it starts at X1
But you don't have that for the trading card
modest flare
while i may due that because it is a helpful bit of info, it is not necessary for the description to serve it purpose effectively
but at this point we are delivering the same points over and over again so i think it's best to close this discussion
ty for your feedback
old monolith
Yea, sorry for starting an argument
Clarity is just something that's important to me
verbal crane
Are there any good things that could be done that'd be rewarding for a card that destroys other cards that aren't the same type as it?
modest flare
Isn’t destroying cars you do t like playing already a reward?
old monolith
Difference is if it's random
verbal crane
Yeah, it's planned to be a random card that isn't its own type (planned name is 'Disassembly Card')
old monolith
Could be a card that when held in your hand, destroys a different other card also held in your hand
old monolith
Are there any good things that could be done that'd be rewarding for a card that...
You could make it give money when destroying, maybe have it randomly share an enhancement from the destroyed card to a different other card
verbal crane
Hmm. Or even go for an 'out of control' aspect by having it replace the destroyed card with a copy of itself, resulting in an ever-growing selection of cards that're just very self-contained / protective 3s. XD
old monolith
Hmm
Could be neat if the copy of itself inherited enhancements
Also that feels like more of a virus card than 'disassembly'
verbal crane
Trading Cards are effectively an Enhancement, so we can't have a Gold Disassembly Card (unless you meant editions, seals, and whatnot), and considering the planned source material (Murder Drones), it makes a surprising amount of sense
old monolith
Isn’t destroying cars you do t like playing already a reward?
Oh, do wanna ask how you'd feel about some art help? I'm not too great an artist, but I feel like I could try an polish up some of the existing card art
modest flare
Not against it, and will certainly look at any art you want to do for the mod, but I won’t necessarily put it in if I feel it doesn’t fit with the rest of the cards
old monolith
Yea I won't do anything outlandish lol
Mostly will be modifying or doing changes from the existing designs to look more in-line with the vanilla art
verbal crane
Hmm. Or even go for an 'out of control' aspect by having it replace the destroye...
Also, how does this sound, Math?
modest flare
Sounds cool, as long as it doesn’t overlap too much with 2mbstone, because the Deaths from 2mbstone are usually used to transform other cards into 2mbstone.
verbal crane
I mean, they should be functionally different enough to stand out on their own- 2mbstone having a chance to give Death on play for Tarot focused plans or for setting up a bunch of copies of one really good card, while the Disassembly Card is about destroying other cards and proliferating itself at the cost of variety (and probably low Chip counts unless you got stuff that works with 3s, like Hack or Odd Todd)
Hell, Disassembly Cards plus Pareadollia (or however you spell it) and Canio, while unlikely, would go ballistic.
modest flare
Okay, it think it could work
old monolith
Tackling the card packs first
Thoughts so far?
pastel needle
The lil cards don't match the palette very well
Might wanna futz with the colors there a lil
old monolith
They're meant to be the back of the deck
But yea I could try
I'm not an artist, I just mostly edit an adjust stuff lol
pastel needle
Sure sure that's why I'm just suggesting color adjustments since those you can feel out
old monolith
Thoughts?
pastel needle
Ooh yeah that's better
old monolith
The dithering helps a lot
old monolith
I dunno what else to do with the normal packs so this is what I got lol
old monolith
Alright, finished up editing some of the cards now. Only one I completely redid was blueprint, to make it look more stylized like the joker, but also emphasize it effecting the card to the right of it. Also did the chess cards, flower and jack in the box here
Before/After
And here I did the grave, brainstorm and pocket ace
Before/After
Mostly just added some lighting/shadows for most
I did the spoon and the magnet too, but I guess they're not in-game yet lol
Up to math man if he wants to use em
old monolith
I have like, one or two ideas for new cards, but imma hold off till I eat an get some sleep lol
Rather try an see if I can make some art for the idea myself before tossing it out
modest flare
I did the spoon and the magnet too, but I guess they're not in-game yet lol
Up ...
This is beautiful, I will absolutely be using this
tysm
timber radish
Mark of the Beast
6, Hearts
Retriggers twice
Charizard
Destroy all cards in played hand after scoring (deck thinning)
Just some ideas
Could maybe also have blue eyes white dragon card
And a black lotus card
old monolith
Outside of draw 4, this isn't really a pack about adding in cards from other games lol
timber radish
Ok
timber radish
Mark of the Beast
6, Hearts
Retriggers twice
Still like this one tho
3 Cards in a Trenchcoat
3
When played in a 3 of a kind, destroy self and create 3 random trading cards
modest flare
I’m fine with references
timber radish
Ok
modest flare
Btw did you put these in the suggestions form
modest flare
top message
timber radish
Im on mobile rn ):
old monolith
I mainly just think mechanics should be thought out when suggesting something, instead of just make card based on X lol
old monolith
Two main ideas I had was a card that made temporary stone cards for the round. Either when you draw it, or when you hold it and play a hand.
And another that was a 'pack' of cards. Like maybe a 'family' card that makes a temporary suitless jack, queen and king when discarded or somethin
I just dig the idea of cards that make more cards
timber radish
Card that turns your entire deck into copies of itself for 1 round
modest flare
art has been added
old monolith
Also random note:
I think the blueprint and brainstorm cards could have more fitting names instead of double up/down lol
Like maybe Schematic for the blueprint and Planned or Thought Process for the brainstorm card?
modest flare
they're based on the cards, yes but i like the names they currently have tbh
old monolith
I guess fair, just seems out of place
modest flare
@verbal crane thoughts?
verbal crane
Ah, that looks amazing. Also, I like the idea of it being a delayed duplication and a Face card
pastel needle
What is it?
modest flare
something from the Murder Drones series
i just looked at the wiki and wikipedia page and found the faces can become a yellow X by some mechanism so i just put that on there
pastel needle
Ohhhhh
modest flare
(suggested by Enderjed)
old monolith
I find it funny how varied the cards are in strength lol
modest flare
might have to make a rarity system
pastel needle
But not diamonds, interesting
old monolith
Or could just buff up some of the weaker ones
Though, maybe something fitting to balance out monarch in particular, could be that it destroys other kings after being played with them? Wanting to be the only ruler an such. Could compensate by making it also be a diamond too then. So it's strong, but culls out your other kings if you play them together, including other monarchs
modest flare
buffed some cards
pastel needle
sunflower should count as a heart
old monolith
Does pocket's effect only happen when it's held in hand, or when you play it? Or does it happen both?
pastel needle
I think everything is when scored unless stated otherwise
modest flare
I think everything is when scored unless stated otherwise
yup
modest flare
sunflower should count as a heart
why?
pastel needle
Sun tarot
old monolith
True
Also, sidenote, but I think jack in the box could be interesting if it gained a counter for each scored jack when it's played, instead of only counting itself. Could raise the counter by 1 to compensate, but I feel like that would help it compete better with some of the stronger trading cards
Actually, can the jack in the box make jacks with enhancements? Or is it only ever plain jack?
modest flare
jack in a Box is going to get a buff
old monolith
If it's guranteed enhanced jacks then can just have it be 4 times for 1
Or maybe 3 for 1
modest flare
i think 4 for 2 works
old monolith
I think it just fits better for it to make one at a time
It's a jack in the box, not jacks lol
modest flare
ig
old monolith
Plus 4 for 2 and also making enhanced jacks is kinda crazy
I think 3 for 1 would fit
modest flare
old monolith
Very nice
old monolith
(suggested by Enderjed)
Also yea, I do think it'd be neat if Monarch destroyed other kings (and monarchs) when played with them. Gives it something else rather than just being a super strong king and somewhat helps balance it by making it not suitable for full houses/'of a kinds'
old monolith
I guess not, but just feels kinda bland compared to the rest
I do wanna ask, what enhancements can you apply to the trading cards? Can you apply none? Or only like, seals and editions?
modest flare
Only seals and editions as those are not enhancements
old monolith
Okay so yea, they're considered enhancements
modest flare
yup
modest flare
Realized a lot of these cards weren't really much better than enhanced cards so...
old monolith
Nice
modest flare
contemplating buffing Wild Draw 4 / Haunted Card
old monolith
I don't think draw 4 needs a buff
Haunted probably though
It's just a worse version of draw 4
mellow ocean
I honestly really like this since it can have some insane synergies with gold & steel cards, blue seals and jokers like baron
cursive granite
is phantom kinda like "debuff" where it doesn't replace any of the seals, editions, or enhancements?
Really cool mod so far, I've enjoyed reading through the thread. 
modest flare
There is a tooltip right there
mellow ocean
Math Guy you should like check suggestions frfr
I totally didn't submit something
(trust)
cursive granite
There is a tooltip right there
I've read it multiple times I just don't quite understand how it'd look without playing it myself, I guess. sorry!!
modest flare
It just blinks
old monolith
I've read it multiple times I just don't quite understand how it'd look without ...
Basically it's a debuff yea
old monolith
Yea it's good as is
teal fiber
Is it ok to put my suggestions here? Haven't suggested anything to the form yet but would like some feedback
modest flare
sure, but also pt them in the form since that raises the odds it gets in the mod
teal fiber
Fiver
5, gives $5 when scored
Looks like a $5 bill in appearance
pastel needle
's like a gold seal but more money
modest flare
that's a lot of $
old monolith
that's a lot of $
Eyo, do wanna ask if you think it'd be doable to have effects that add 'temporary' cards to your hand. Like cards that go away at the end of the round?
modest flare
it's feasible
old monolith
Would be nice if the blank card visually showed what number it currently is. Like what ortalab does with the index card enhancement. Could look like it's being scribbled on it
Double up is bugged and isn't scoring properly
modest flare
Double up is bugged and isn't scoring properly
Elaboration?
old monolith
When I use it, it doesn't activate
The 'always scores' bit doesn't work
Also, this doesn't count as a flush for some reason
modest flare
what mods do you have and when last did you update custom playing cards
old monolith
I just updated it earlier today, and have probably a bit too many mods lol
I'll clean stuff up an test stuff again
Now the game is just auto crashing
Neat
modest flare
with no other mods?
old monolith
Yea, that was with the V1 release
Cause wanted to see if that had the issue
But the version that I was having the issues with those two cards was with the newest one
modest flare
try the latest commit
modest flare
do you have a mod list of the mods u were playing at the time
modest flare
k ty
old monolith
Okay no conflicts so far with all the qol and 'big' mods that I use
mellow ocean
@modest flare I got the sleeve finished (except art)
old monolith
Okay so. The Unstable mod that came out recently is what's causing the Trading Card suits to not work properly
Not sure what's the cause for the blueprint bug
tender zealot
I am currently on a bit of Balatro break after constantly working on it for the past few days to prevent burnout but I'll take a look at this in detail later when I got back in like a day or two.
There was a hook into is_suit function, and i suspect the enhancement check (check for no_suit property in the center) ends up causing it to return false early for Trading Card before it actually fall into the lovely patched version of the function. I could explicitly adding a compat support for this I think.
is there a way to reliably spawn specific card w/ debugplus or something so I could test this more efficiently
modest flare
I am currently on a bit of Balatro break after constantly working on it for the ...
rn you kinda just have to spam The Exchange
tender zealot
got it
modest flare
so i did a suggestion
you didn't put an actual mechanic for the card.
timber radish
there, my suggestion will avenge your suffering
old monolith
They are
modest flare
i didn't think it was that powerful
modest flare
im not seeing the issue
pastel needle
I think the issue is more that it's just a lil boring for gameplay purposes, you'd take meteor when you're in the mood to high-card and then you suddenly have way more stone in your setup without much more thought
essentially 4 stone cards in one
old monolith
I mean, it's useful for pair or 3 of a kind too
pastel needle
would require more thought if you got the fleeting stones on score
timber radish
its a single card that you draw and you can immediately get a 200 base chip high card with literally no investment
pastel needle
because then you don't have a full hand + 3 stones, you just have 3 stones and whatever other cards you've got left
old monolith
Plus it's not like you can put modifiers on the extra stone cards, they'll always be basic
timber radish
would require more thought if you got the fleeting stones on score
agreed
pastel needle
stone is stone, people sleep on stones but stones are stronk
old monolith
I didn't want it to be on score cause I wanted it to be unique from the other collector cards
Could cut it down to only giving 2 extra stones, but I don't think it's that big a deal
timber radish
ok
modest flare
i think 2 is fair
modest flare
note on fleeting cards, cards can't stop being fleeting or become fleeting through Death
glacial olive
note on fleeting cards, cards can't stop being fleeting or become fleeting throu...
understandable
modest flare
also Monarch has been nerfed to 50 chips
:(
uuuuh
yeah I'm not sure when I will be able to do something about this since it probably will break this mod and other mods I have
glacial olive
:c
glacial olive
that feel when you attempt making a somewhat lore-accurate suggestion but
THISSSS happens 😭
modest flare
that feel when you attempt making a somewhat lore-accurate suggestion but
THISSS...
dw, the suggestion isn't getting accepted anyway
glacial olive
it BETTER don't
that sprite would be absolute hell to make
and i don't want your hands to burn
old monolith
I'll see about making a meteor sprite tomorrow, seeing that has given me some inspiration
modest flare
yeah, I'm looking at the changes and yeah, i don't know if i can make the mod work again.
there is a non-zero chance the mod gets cancelled
modest flare
As of the moment I will not be bug-fixing Custom Playng Cards at all, because I do not want to.
timber radish
ok
candid mist
yeah go to #1268340789730213888
modest flare
Custom PLaying Cards shpould now work with BetterCalc
candid mist
wait isnt this just like. trading cards. or are they different
modest flare
oh it is trading cards but i badically redid the whole code
modest flare
yup
candid mist
got it
modest flare
thoughts on this?
undone fox
cool but not really a challenge, just makes you wanna play full house/4 of a kind a bunch. maybe take away some joker slots?
modest flare
Double Downs can copy other Double Downs (thus effectively doing nothing)
modest flare
maybe start with 6 hand size
undone fox
love that
timber radish
actually this gives me an idea
decks that replace certain cards in the deck with trading cards
modest flare
Looks like three suit king doesn't like to be steelled
Both images are normal behavior
lilac orbit
Good to know
old monolith
Yea, the trading cards are considered enhancements, which is why that appears in the enhancements page, and why they can't be steeled
modest flare
speaking of steel
pastel needle
No rank no suit?
modest flare
indeed
pastel needle
Maybe I'd do flat mult instead so it's more distinct from steel but this works as is
old monolith
Well, the fact it has no rank or suit an is just a bit of a bigger X does do a decent job making it different I feel. Would suck a lil if it doesn't actually count as a steel card for synergies though pfft
modest flare
Fortune Orb: When held in hand, Draw a card as Phantom when a Tarot is used. Haven't put it in game yet
*might make it 2 cards as Phantom
tender zealot
I am currently on a bit of Balatro break after constantly working on it for the ...
follow up: I think I got everything worked now
will keep testing a little bit more before pushing though
edit: pushed
old monolith
Fortune Orb: When held in hand, Draw a card as Phantom when a Tarot is used. Hav...
That art looks great btw
timber radish
Fortune Orb: When held in hand, Draw a card as Phantom when a Tarot is used. Hav...
Better calc is awesome for making things like this possible
modest flare
I could have done it without bettercalc
timber radish
It would be pain though
modest flare
Not really
modest flare
(this CAN be retriggered)
modest flare
That art looks great btw
ty
spark bramble
So i updated your mod.
Syntax error: game.lua:2625: <goto continue> jumps into the scope of local '_'
Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1n-FULL (best guess)
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1216a-STEAMODDED
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.6.0
Stack Traceback
(3) C function 'function: 0x2477bc08'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 872
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x2476e6c0 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x24774758 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
modest flare
is your steamodded updated?
spark bramble
1.0.0 Alpha
Did it get updated?
So yeah i'm using the alpa still
alpha
is it the smods now?
modest flare
it gets updated constantly
spark bramble
it was last updated on the 15th on my computer
modest flare
Yes
old monolith
You'll need to download straight from the github for talisman, the 'latest release' doesn't work with the newest version of smod
spark bramble
got a link?
old monolith
And I have no clue if cryptid is updated at all for the newest version
But this mod works fine
spark bramble
a link for talisman
old monolith
spark bramble
2.0.2?
old monolith
...no
I already said the 'most recent release' won't work
That's why I showed the picture of downloading the zip
From the code button
spark bramble
What's funny is that 2.0.2 doesn't crash
modest flare
so did you download steamodded and custom playing cards from the green code button
spark bramble
Yes steam modded 2.0.2 didn't crash like 2.1.0 did
modest flare
okay i'll check it out
spark bramble
But the thing is when I fully updated this mod the cards aren't counted.
modest flare
when did the crash occur
spark bramble
For 2.1.0 almost instantly after loading the equilibrium deck. Let me try a vanilla deck
modest flare
i don't think all those mods work with bettercalc
you may need to disable some of them or downgrade your steamodded
spark bramble
Ok I used Erratic deck. It works but cards aren't scored.
modest flare
yeah cryptid is defintely not bettercalc ready
i doubt mika's is
and probably many others
spark bramble
I mean when I used 2.0.2 steammodded it all works fine
modest flare
for context bettercalc is a breaking change on steamodded which breaks most mods that didn't did update for it
modest flare
I mean when I used 2.0.2 steammodded it all works fine
that's probably before bettercalc
some mods have updated to work with bettercalc some have not
if you want to downgrade your steamodded to not have better calc you will also need to downgrade this mod to it's pre-bettercalc release
spark bramble
Sorry correction 2.0.2 talisman
modest flare
talisman is bettercalc ready i think
2.02 is probablt pre-betetr calc
but just to be clear
spark bramble
No wait it now crashed on 2.0.2
modest flare
either all your mods and steamodded have to be BEFORE better-calc or they have to all be AFTER better-calc
if you have a mix breaking issues are near-guarenteed
spark bramble
Yeah vanilla decks are broken too. Not crashing though
modest flare
are you reading what I am saying?
spark bramble
Yes but how do I know what's using what
spark bramble
Ok so what exactly do I do? I'm not exactly a professional at this like you
modest flare
you have to find which mods are on bettercalc and which aren't
either get all versions of mods that aren't on better calc
or all ones that aren't
if you need more help ask in #⚙・modding-general
spark bramble
So I need to go find all of the mods one by one and update them?
modest flare
or downgrade to pre-bettercalc on everything
spark bramble
And there's no way to tell what is pre and post?
spark bramble
So I updated everything I can find. Still same crash report.
Btw the talisman I have is 2.0.3 dev
spark bramble
so i'm doing the mods one by one. it's Custom that won't let me load it
modest flare
Please move this to modding-chat
old monolith
I feel like you could maybe reel it back a bit. Maybe have it be an actual rank number, so it's a bit lower mult, but remove the -1 on draw
But def a neat simple idea for a mult card
modest flare
tryna make an idea around a bust card in blackjack, hence the 22
the lowest possible total that busts
undone fox
what if -1$ on play instead of on draw
so its a choice to actually play it and take the L
kind of a use for emergency type thing
old monolith
I mean, I mostly just wanted it to be an actual rank/number
modest flare
technically i could make 22 an actual rank
old monolith
That wouldn't exactly help lol
modest flare
the 22 just works so well thematically so i'll keep it
undone fox
making it a real rank is kind of a good idea so you could play 2/3/4/5 of a kind
even if it's the only 22 card you can still have copies of it
modest flare
Rank 22. On play, debuff scoring cards. +22 Mult
old monolith
Don't forget the 'always scores'
An should probably specify 'debuff other scoring cards'
modest flare
hmmmm
Always Scores, Rank 22. Debuff scoring cards. On play, +22 Mult.
eh, could place it last
On play, debuff scoring cards and +22 Mult
just gonna abandon the rank idea
22 mult is crazy enough
modest flare
Old Bell - King, Clubs, +10 chips. when drawn, forced to be selected, X3 Mult
planning on adding this one
old monolith
I think it's kinda unnecessarily complicated
pastel needle
would Mint not just be like, "unused"?
candid mist
mint condition
pastel needle
yes mint condition means it hasn't been touched or exposed to the elements
candid mist
uep
modest flare
bump
old monolith
I just don't think that should be a thing really lol
modest flare
i don't plan on making it a major feature
just a neat thing like, "Oh this card is mint, what a nice pull"
modest flare
Maybe
austere ibex
What happens if you have more than 5 old bells in your hand?
swift latch
I’d assume the first 5 get selected then the 6th onward don’t
lilac orbit
modest flare
What?
lilac orbit
Gold cards don't give money
modest flare
I’d assume the first 5 get selected then the 6th onward don’t
Pretty sure this is correct.
glad parcel
That wouldn't exactly help lol
Well, with some other mods that exist, it might.
keen viper
scammed
modest flare
midnight nymph
Bust Card: Always Scores, +11 Mult. On Draw, -$1
Make cross mod with dungeons that makes this bust
modest flare
no
midnight nymph
Aww why
midnight nymph
Damn
lilac orbit
is this still a issue?
I'll need to test again
modest flare
Hit cross-mod content coming soon
wanton rover
any update for pre-bettercalc version ?
rustic lintel
How is this doing?
timber radish
No ones posted here for a while
modest flare
Correct
glad parcel
I should probably see if I can think of any additional ideas.
midnight nymph
modest flare
just did a thing on newcalc for this, mod should be working again
modest flare
glad parcel
Nice.
modest flare
hey, which trading card would you guys like to see a deck for
swift latch
Old Bell
modest flare
modest flare
modest flare
new card
modest flare
glad parcel
Ooh, lovely.
restive oasis
Would it be acceptable to offer non-playing card suggestions in the form?
modest flare
Would it be acceptable to offer non-playing card suggestions in the form?
no, just put them here
@restive oasis
restive oasis
I think the mod could benefit from having consumables that add suits and ranks to trading cards that don't have them, in order to make them more accessible for a wider variety of playstyles. As someone who enjoys playing 5-card hands, I feel like quite a few of the trading cards become unusable simply because i can't fit them into a hand. For example, obtaining a Double Up is essentially useless when playing for Flushes. I don't believe that the original card modifiers should be changed, but I think having the ability to add, say Spades, to a Free Pass card so that I can play a flush without having it count as a hand, would add a little more variety to the mod, as well as make certain strategies and playstyles more accessible.
My exact ideas for this were four Spectral cards (one for each of the suits) that can assign suits specifically to Trading Cards that don't already have one (this could even branch into cross-mod support for mods that include new suits, such as Bunco or Six Suits), as well as one spectral card that gives the rank of one selected card to a selected or random trading card that doesn't already have one.