Blind Editions

[torn stump]

Blinds have Editions Now.

Github: https://github.com/Mathguy23/BlindEditions

[civic sundial]

What do they do?

[torn stump]

things

[civic sundial]

Golly that's frightening

[torn stump]

Foil - X1.5 Blind Size
Holographic - -1 Hand
Polychrome - -1 Hand Size
Negative - X-1 Blind Reward, Unskippable

[tame shadow]

will there be support for modded editions 🤔

via an api

[civic sundial]

do these editional blinds give additional cash money?

[rich aurora]

Looks like it adds a new object to register your own editions if you so please

[torn stump]

yup

[torn stump]

all except negative

[steel quest]

So what will doing Negative Blinds do to benefit you?

Or is it pure RNG punishment?

[torn stump]

pure RNG punishment for now

ig u could say it's purely negative

[cedar cape]

Imagine with editions from jen's almanac, moire blind.

[river sky]

holographic needle O_O

[torn stump]

doesn't actually ahve any affect gameplay wise

you still get to play a hand

[night spoke]

holo and polychrome should be swapped tbh

[torn stump]

uuuuuuuuh

[civic sundial]

Is the bonus money % based

Because the small blinds don't give money at higher stakes and would cause that

[torn stump]

the blind isn't editioned

just me coding bad

[civic sundial]

Oh ok

[wanton rock]

Negative small blinds could alternatively charge $1 to play them.

Probably just treat it like the tooth where it can send you into negatives.

[torn stump]

negative blinds multiply the blind reward by -1

-1 * 0 = 0

[wanton rock]

Ah, I thought the X was standing in for whatever amount of reward money is normally given.

[steel quest]

Maybe the Negative Blind could give you a Negative Tag at the end of the round, to basically act as you buying for a random Negative Joker?

[torn stump]

good ol' collections menu

[stiff quiver]

What's to the left of poly

Or are they just misalligned

[torn stump]

Yes

Intentionally

[cyan blade]

So are the harder Blinds compensated with greater rewards, or is this just purely for the challenge?

[steel quest]

Yes, you get increased Cash Out rewards (except for Negative, as that inverts the Cash Out rewards, but he's probably just planning for a different reward on that).

[steel quest]

I personally hope this one is considered.

[stiff quiver]

"×-1 blind reward" implies that something like xp in grim would be reversed aswell.

[cyan blade]

Oh yeah, increased Grim XP for Editioned Blinds would be really cool too.

[stiff quiver]

Am I allowed to spam suggestions for cryptid and almanac editions

Well, not really spam, but if nobody else types it might flood this

[cyan blade]

What have you got?

[torn stump]

Jen is already making almanac editions

[stiff quiver]

[torn stump]

negative has been changed

(the joker slot is permamant and is rewarded AFTER defeating the blind)

[tame shadow]

negative violet vessel

[torn stump]

oh dear

X48 Blind Size

[tame shadow]

wouldn't it be funny if every negative blind reqiured a bigger score reqiurement than the last

eg, x8, x64, x512,

[gloomy rain]

bro just casually drops another banger

[torn stump]

ty

[cyan blade]

Hmm, we've got Editions on Consumables (and they can even effect Planets on-use, nothing else tho...), Editions on Packs (everything inside has that edition), Editions on Blinds... What else could Editions be added to? Vouchers? Tags?

[torn stump]

Editioned dollars

editioned editions?

[cyan blade]

They give the Edition's respective buff until spent.

...Actually, that's a good idea. Might be tough to keep track of if it's on individual dollars, tho...

[cyan blade]

If you could find a way to make that work, I wouldn't be opposed. It might be a way to fix the main problem with multi-Edition things, that being it messing with things that look for what Edition a card is. If the card's Edition is what has the secondary Edition, thus making the card only register as the first in the chain for those purposes, that might resolve it. But this is coming from someone who has no idea how this works, so...

[gusty pecan]

cryptid has editioned vouchers, but it's not clear to me that they actually do anything

[rich aurora]

Glitched probably does something

[jagged harness]

Ok that's op

[torn stump]

well it's rare

ideally it will only be seen every once in a while

less than once on average each run

[cyan blade]

Do things that modify the frequency of Editions also work on Blind Editions?

[swift mauve]

would there also be compatibility with other mod editions?

[jagged harness]

There is an api

So the creator can add there own effects

[stiff quiver]

poly sword made me start with 0 hands

[gloomy rain]

lmao

[cedar cape]

https://tenor.com/view/iamkennyshole-nolegs-gif-21673896

[gloomy rain]

i had the best gif in mind, but i cannot find it D:

[torn stump]

I can try and make an exception, but no promises.

[fierce coyote]

What if you get negative on high stake small blind?

-1 s reward?

[sly rock]

especially when playing with Jens almanac (0.1.0 playtest), editioned blinds are appearing way too often, sometimes i see ante 1 with 3 of them. would there be a way to either just turn down the rate or add an option to do so?

[torn stump]

0

-0 = 0

[torn stump]

The blinds have editions based on a weight system

So the more editions there are the more they show up

And I think that may just me a statistical anomaly, seeing three editions on ante 1

[sly rock]

no i've seen it quite a few times

[torn stump]

I haven’t seen that too often

[sly rock]

hm

[torn stump]

Lemme check the weights

Blinds have an 18.5% chance to be editioned

Assuming no added editions

Which means a .63% chance for the fist ante to have three editions

Ur just unlucky, or lucky depending on how you look at it

[sly rock]

i was using jens at the time

[torn stump]

That explains it

You’ll have to ask Jen to lower the rates or increase the rate of the base edition

[bleak walrus]

why do added editions change the total chance?

[torn stump]

it uses weights

including the Base Edition

[bleak walrus]

yeah but you can use weights within your 18.5% chance

otherwise you end up with adding editions and then coming across them an awful lot, rather than the amount you've designed them around

[tiny yoke]

is there any chance you can special case ante 1 to never have editions since -0.5 hand levels immediately out the gate is kinda unfair

[torn stump]

Ask Jen to do that I didn’t add chromatic edition

[torn stump]

The Needle, The Sword, The One, and sometimes Obsidian Orb now cannot be polychrome

[oak fern]

Hello, if I beat Holographic blind, does that mean I get +1 hand size later?

[oak fern]

Is this working as intended?

[oak fern]

When I open a blind that said -1 Hand Size, does that mean it trigger in the start of the round and change my HS to 7/7?

[torn stump]

It is supposed to

[tropic pelican]

so thats the mod i was looking for

had it in my blinds modpack for ~a month

and it's from u again 💔

[torn stump]

:)

[magic spruce]

Helo!, Ability on set_blind doesn't work, idk why

[torn stump]

When last did you update Steamodded

[magic spruce]

Today, to check it is not working due to a conflict with another mod.

After holographic (Might be some useful information?)

[torn stump]

K, will check out

should be fixed

[magic spruce]

working, Thanks for update!

[torn stump]

np

[unreal storm]

does chicot disable the editions? would be a neat buff to an otherwise underwhelming legendary

[torn stump]

probably won't do that

[cold tree]

crash when open blind edition list in collection

[torn stump]

will have to look into this

[torn stump]

fixed

[fast plume]

Man, this quite awesome idea for a mod

[tawdry estuary]

Bunnet got marked as a Spammer 😭

[fast plume]

Again? I am not even doing anything grr

[torn stump]

Thanks

[fast plume]

you very welcome I feel like this don't get enough love

[fast plume]

a little crash report

[tawdry estuary]

check your maximus install

dupe install i think

[fast plume]

I remove the blinds and it work just fine, so what going to do try the blind by themselves

[tawdry estuary]

well maximus is still a dupe install

[fast plume]

you think that could cause it?

[tawdry estuary]

depends

doesnt hurt to try

[fast plume]

that is true

[gusty pecan]

dupe installs can break all sorts of things

[fast plume]

sadly no guys try it again, this time just blinds

because wasn't running anything else I could think could hamper this mod

[late goblet]

Yeah, with the newest SMODs version, I noticed that after exiting a shop and if there's a blind with an edition, the game will crash

[torn stump]

figures

[fast plume]

So it wasn't that had other mods on, what relief

[golden matrix]

Noticed it aswell. As soon as uninstalled the mod, no crash found

[fast plume]

Me 3! But hope this remedy soon

[left cypress]

I really like this mod, but sadly, it crashes constantly even by itself

[stoic portal]

use math max to prevent 0 or -1 hands

[torn stump]

…

[stoic portal]

idk you said "make an exception"

just wanted to help sry