Mod officially sanctioned by cheryl
#vivid/stasis Balatro mod
ionic wigeon
Every single one of these(besides obama come on), and another card WIP are all at 0%
will edit as time progresses
ignore my complete typography error in the title
vivid/stasis Balatro mod
lilac radish
lmaooo
elfin notch
ooh this is fun
lilac radish
idea: add in the entire ||betweenspace|| to unlock jokers
ionic wigeon
in my balatro mod??
ionic wigeon
we need a ranch joker dont we
livid field
is this a reference to the hit condiment ranch from the united states of america
lilac radish
saturday eats a raw 
and says poggers
graceful grotto
those look nice
ionic wigeon
any complaints
graceful grotto
TVO seems powerful with a bunch of negatives/legendaries
bear creek park also synergies well with fib
ionic wigeon
Eri :)
elfin notch
commentator's curse feels a little too weak, in comparison to like, card sharp
ionic wigeon
hmm
elfin notch
honestly okaihou express could be fun if it was xmult instead
base mult feels a little weak considering how hard it is to play without numbers
tsuki also feels weak, its like, a different hanging chad with better synergy with glass
graceful grotto
do we know when this mod will start production?
ionic wigeon
asap
ionic wigeon
still making sure everything is good
ionic wigeon
idrk entirely how to use the api, but once I figure out how I'm going to start cranking these out
might make a github for collection purposes
graceful grotto
mods need to be open-source on github, so best to create it soon
ionic wigeon
yeah fair enough
graceful grotto
there's some people here that can help with creating jokers
its also nice to look at the source code for help
its not public but iykyk
indigo magnet
btw from what i know the shopkeeper's name is Tori
ionic wigeon
it is, Tori and shopkeeper are two different cards because at some point they were thought to be different iirc
or just funny nonspecific stuff
I'd love some help/balancing though
livid field
its not public but iykyk
..i mean, its the product you purchased, simply looking at the distribution of the game you bought is fine
theres no problems there
you just use 7zip or a similar software to open the archive that is the .exe and read the contents
not comparable to something like disassembling or decompiling a games binaries, balatro does not have any such thing
loud urchin
..i mean, its the product you purchased, simply looking at the distribution of t...
technically, you only purchased a Steam license to play the game, you don't actually own that copy of the game
livid field
*technically*, you only purchased a Steam license to play the game, you don't ac...
and you're licensed to use it for non-commercial use cases? i don't get your point
ionic wigeon
...
loud urchin
I was just clearing up a possible technicality. Not really any other point I was trying to make
ionic wigeon
isn't this conversation more fitting of a... general modding chat discussion
livid field
meh
you just need to know that using the games source code is a normal thing and that demonizing it like the other guy did is pretty wrong
that's all im trying to say
ionic wigeon
anywhom, I'm wanting to start working on this in code, but I want someone to help ig
livid field
well ask questions and people will answer them
ionic wigeon
I have no idea where to even START
I have VSC and stuff, but idk where the balatro joker code that I can reference is
livid field
you just use 7zip or a similar software to open the archive that is the .exe and...
^
oh you mean
that's smods wiki stuff
ionic wigeon
noted
livid field
wrong link
ionic wigeon
no worries
livid field
but the stuff is under SMODS.Center there
ionic wigeon
alright, I'll probably start working on it soon
Will use a placeholder of some kind
how should I sort the jokers? by rarity then by name?
past 150 anyway
where can i make this in?
im trying to get everything set up properly on a github and stuff so I can start working on it
opaque burrow
Steamodded's example mods, https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/tree/main/example_mods/Mods
Make it in vscode, just make brand new files.
ionic wigeon
im feeling really stupid right now
what do i do lmaop
more specifically, how do i make a github page to upload these to
idrk how mod pages are meant to look tbh
also, how do i use the steamodded api
opaque burrow
more specifically, how do i make a github page to upload these to
I assume you made an account, click your profile in the top right of github, your repositories, the green New button, and that'll be your base.
Install Github Desktop, put a work directory somewhere, and start making your mod in there. Once you're ready to put your work into the world, start up Github Desktop, and push your files to the repository.
Mod pages on github are usually done in a README.md, which you can stylize with markdown - if you don't know how to use markdown, search up a markdown editor, it's just the stuff that lets you do stuff like italics and bold in discord.
livid field
also, how do i use the steamodded api
you just call the functions?
ionic wigeon
doesn't that require a... connection to the api??
livid field
all the arguments and what you need to put are detailed on the wiki
opaque burrow
also, how do i use the steamodded api
This you will have to learn for yourself and figure out how to program, and if you don't, you'll be relying on someone else to program for you.
It can happen, but most of the time, if they have enough interest to learn how to program mods for Balatro, it's because they have projects in mind they already want to work on, so they probably won't be as inclined to take on other people's projects as well, and it most likely won't get picked up by anyone.
I do heavily suggest reading my example joker mod in the steamodded examples carefully, I think I did well with introducing people with only a rough understanding into it, but I do also recommend looking into other well known mods - excluding Cryptid, because it does a bunch of code very weirdly for several reasons - but, just look through, read them, and see how they do things.
opaque burrow
All the API stuff is automatically usable, because steamodded loads it's API and then loads mods into the game, so if you want to use any stuff from steamodded, just start with SMODS.whatever.
opaque burrow
If you were doing a mod using lovely's dll injector directly instead, it'd be a completely different story, but Steamodded is very nice.
ionic wigeon
do i need a thing to use as a placeholder?
does someone have a like... placeholder png
opaque burrow
There isn't really, you could just copy the standard Joker from balatro's resources and use it for your placeholder though.
ionic wigeon
alright so, for example
Nurse, the easiest one here I think
how do I display how many chips it will give(do i do this at all?)
livid field
do i need a thing to use as a placeholder?
does someone have a like... placehold...
for jokers, theres an automatic default
if you want you can just register an atlas with a placeholder image and just use that for all the jokers though
livid field
for jokers, theres an automatic default
which is the standard joker the other guy said btw
ionic wigeon
im on the page, i just dont know how exactly to write the display text
opaque burrow
Line 42.
ionic wigeon
?
opaque burrow
That appears to be line 106, which is not line 42, which is under the part that explains the structure of jokers.
ionic wigeon
this is what im referencing to... make the display text in the first place
opaque burrow
Read the comments I left, they're there to explain things.
ionic wigeon
so how do i make the chips scaling value 40
would i change this to chips = 40?
or chip_gain 40 and chips = 0
opaque burrow
Second one, and then you'd add the value of chip_gain to chips when the scaling triggers. chips would obviously be what you'd use to actually add chips during the scoring phase.
opaque burrow
Up to you, cards do have different costs within their own rarities, and Legendaries all have a value of, I'm pretty sure $20,
I'd say look at the base game cards, and use that to evaluate it based on what you think fits. Give me a second to find that file, it's been a bit and I no longer have it memorized.
It should in game.lua, around line 367.
It contains cost, rarity, and names, and all the stuff you're probably defining at the moment, so if you want to base them on vanilla, it's a good place to look at.
ionic wigeon
i think 4 makes sense
based on other chip jokers that are common
having trouble figuring out how loc_vars works
mostly because i dont know what the variables do, or the requirements for the vars
opaque burrow
The vars are what you define yourself in loc_vars. Should only be a few lines down from the loc_txt description.
Wait, misread that as trouble with loc_txt -
ionic wigeon
what is the "num of hands remaining" variable
i need to multiply chip_mod by that variable to return the chips
opaque burrow
The purpose of loc_vars is to provide loc_txt with text variables. It's localization variables and localization text.
opaque burrow
If it's not contained within the joker itself, it's usually stored within G.GAME, which is G for Global, and GAME is a table with information relating to the current run. I think the table is created somewhere in game.lua, give me a second to look for it.
ionic wigeon
thank you!
opaque burrow
Yeah, the function is Game:init_game_object in game.lua.
ionic wigeon
alright one sec
uh... how do i check the hands remaining using that
im having a brainfart
opaque burrow
Probably somewhere in there under current round, so it'd be G.GAME.current_round.whatever_it_uses_to_track_hands_remaining, and then you'd use that as the variable.
ionic wigeon
d o y
opaque burrow
Looks like you found it.
ionic wigeon
ok uh
im having issues with a couple of things
is this good?
I want chips to stay at 0, but idk how to make chip_gain affect the outputted chips
opaque burrow
Is chip mod in the, I think it's return in the calculate function?
ionic wigeon
yes
opaque burrow
Looks like it should be applying to me, can you send the calculate function of your code?
ionic wigeon
idk how to make the message after
:(
this message seems detached from the chip_mod, and idrk when chips is ever... used
do i need extra.chip_gain at all??
the chip value never changes
and chips * 0 is 0
opaque burrow
Yeah, you don't really need chips at all. I'd keep it as chip_gain or hand_chip_value or whatever you want - name doesn't truly matter, it's more there for clarifying it for yourself.
ionic wigeon
?
opaque burrow
You'd keep chips and have chips = chips + chip_gain if it was scaling on an action, but this is just multiplying it with the hands remaining per round, so not really scaling.
ionic wigeon
im gon remove chips
opaque burrow
Which joker is this for?
ionic wigeon
Nurse
opaque burrow
?
vars = {card.ability.extra.chip_gain * G.GAME.current_round.hands_left} if you don't want it to always just show the unmodifiedchip_gain value.
opaque burrow
im gon remove chips
I thought this meant you were needing to permanently remove chips like ice cream and got really confused for a second, completely on me.
ionic wigeon
am i missing anything here
opaque burrow
Check loc_vars,
ionic wigeon
ah good catch
opaque burrow
Looks like it should function perfectly fine on first glance to me.
opaque burrow
The calculate function is the functionality.
All it needs is a placeholder, I think, and depending on when hands left is counted, you may need to add a +1 to the chip calculation, like if you have 4 hands, play 1 hand, and it goes down to 3 before it ends up reaching the scoring phase, but I don't think it does.
Pop some stuff in assets, assign the atlas, put either a mod header at the top or a metadata.json following the wiki on Steamodded, and you should be able to load it up and test it.
opaque burrow
You can run it with none, or you can throw the current steamodded version in there.
opaque burrow
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#file-header
There's defaults for anything optional,
ionic wigeon
how do i make my mod show up in the mods menu?
opaque burrow
Badge color is because mods give new items a custom badge to show what mod they're from, under rarity or where you'd see editions like holographic, that says your mod name. Badge color changes that color.
Prefix is just by default the first 4 letters of your mod id, it's mostly to prevent conflicts, like if you have a mod called abcd and it has a joker called "Joker", the key would be called abcd_j_joker, and would not conflict with the base game's joker (just j_joker), and it also wouldn't conflict with efgh's "Joker", since it's name is internally efgh_j_joker.
opaque burrow
how do i make my mod show up in the mods menu?
Do you have --- STEAMODDED HEADER at the top, and is it in a folder in the Mods folder?
opaque burrow
Change or delete the prefix, since it might conflict with my prefix, also, MOD_AUTHOR needs to be in [].
opaque burrow
Probably not, but you mentioned knowing other programming languages, I'm sure you know trial and error, boot it up and see if it works.
opaque burrow
Whoops, need to end your if and your calculate.
opaque burrow
Also needs a comma after key and after the last } for loc_txt.
opaque burrow
Need a comma after the end for loc_vars, now.
ionic wigeon
mannnn still
opaque burrow
What you're doing is basically defining a table for Steamodded to read from, and you're making a list of information, and you're saying loc_vars is a function, that does the following, so you're defining a function as you're putting it into a list.
I think remove the comma after the return, it might be making the return expect a second value?
opaque burrow
Have you been reading the lines at the very top? Very helpful information, something is up with your atlas.
opaque burrow
Do you have at as /assets/1x and /assets/2x and have a picture named vividstasis1.png in both?
ionic wigeon
yes
and have a picture in them both
(i replaced the top left image with a placeholder)
opaque burrow
Named the exact same and everything? Made sure it's a .png and not .jpeg and everything? It's having issues with finding the atlas, is what that is.
opaque burrow
Zip up the assets folder and send it here.
ionic wigeon
i legit just copied an image from cryptid to put the placeholder over
is that ok lmao
opaque burrow
It might be, I can't really tell what the issue is, and I'm not sure what other information to ask, so probably easiest to see it myself.
ionic wigeon
opaque burrow
That's x2 and x1, not 2x and 1x.
ionic wigeon
oops...
opaque burrow
Simple spelling mistake, happens to the best of us, especially in programming.
opaque burrow
Oh, by the way, for loc_vars and loc_txt, you want that 40 to be #1# since it's the chip_gain amount, and you want the thing that's #1# to be #2#, and add another variable into the loc_vars that's the same chip_gain * hands_left line you used in the calculate area.
Functionality should still work, but description is probably off.
ionic wigeon
gotchaaaa
opaque burrow
Just in case, do heavily recommend DebugPlus, for it's, well, debug features. Hold tab once it's installed and the menu will open.
https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/DebugPlus/
opaque burrow
Yeah, and now you know the basics.
opaque burrow
I'd suggest maybe Eri in order to learn a little bit about contexts.
ionic wigeon
im making movator, and then I'll do Eri
am wondering if I can do (max hands - hands left) to get hands played or something
oh WAIT
if someone discards it needs to reset movator
how do i do that
ionic wigeon
if someone discards it needs to reset movator
stil unsure
need to write an if statement that says that a discard happened at all
ionic wigeon
anyone want to test these in a run?
wanna check to make sure the two I've added aren't too overpowered, and interact with blueprint
(for commons anyway)
ionic wigeon
Mod officially sanctioned by cheryl
which of these should I make after eri :3
trim olive
new to modding, where am i putting this file?
i put it in the mods folder and it just crashes after loading
trim olive
this is the crash, i already have lovely and steammodded
trim olive
okie dokie
ionic wigeon
I'm otw home now, I'll ping you again by X:15
didnt properly fix my statement there I think
trim olive
okie dokie 🙂
ionic wigeon
@trim olive you can redownload now, fixed the issue
trim olive
rightyo, i shall do it after this run
ionic wigeon
would highly recommend temporarily removing all mods besides base for the v/s mod btw
it only has 2 jokers atm
trim olive
im gonna quit this run because its not possible to lose😅
trim olive
would highly recommend temporarily removing all mods besides base for the v/s mo...
okie dokie
trim olive
it only has 2 jokers atm
i havent been playing balatro for too long so im not sure how well me testing will actually help
i might not even know what jokers are modded😭
trim olive
btw is there a reason that there is 'assets' AND 'assets.zip'
trim olive
now i must sit and pray i get the jokers
trim olive
everybody stay calm
trim olive
i now need to stay alive
trim olive
that card might straight carry LOL
probably😅
what is an unplayed hand?
i assumed that'd be how many hands i have left when the round ends but the card didnt increase when i had 3 hands left over
ionic wigeon
unplayed hand is per round
you have 4 hands traditionally
i need to subtract 40 i think
are you playing on blue deck?
trim olive
i thought it increases by 40 at the end of each round which is why i was confused
stay calm x 2
ionic wigeon
movator had a display issue on the previous vers
i patched it just now, but it will still glitch in your game i think
let me know if they're too good as commons lol
trim olive
i patched it just now, but it will still glitch in your game i think
what will happen?
not sure how modding works but i think that they should update at the end of the hand rather than at the start
trim olive
oh right, it does update at the end of the hand but visually it updates at the start of the round
it says upgraded but then does the number it was before the upgrade
trim olive
trim olive
only 6, the game wasnt giving me any jokers, i was being carried by card luck so i didnt need to discard any so i was racking up the movator
i then forgot i had movator and dicarded so i was no longer getting +50mult
trim olive
start of ante 8 and im yet to find one of the jokers. im being scammed...
got lvl 40 pair though😭
died on ante 11 but i got it again on ante 2
ah found an issue
ionic wigeon
?
trim olive
it says +40 mult but the actual mult resets each round
trim olive
okie dokie, i havent had a display issue with the movator yet btw
trim olive
"cards discarded: 24" I wonder which joker I was using
ionic wigeon
psssh
trim olive
they were at like +200 mult
ionic wigeon
damnnn
trim olive
"they" because i duped one
ionic wigeon
new joker in the works
trim olive
i like repetition jokers🥹
ionic wigeon
:3
ionic wigeon
it should work now
I don't remember if I pushed it before leaving for school
but I might just recode it on my laptop at school and push it there
ionic wigeon
anyone who wants to test lemme know how it goes
trim olive
damn
just built up a movator to +150 mult with burglar and it got reset because when 'the hook' boss discards 2 cards that counts as a non consecutive hand
trim olive
retrigger all cards in final hand of round is called dusk
you could rename mountain view to dawn to make it match
trim olive
i see, okie dokie
trim olive
im still yet to get a mountain view.. ive played like 5 games and got multiple of the other ones
ionic wigeon
smh
ionic wigeon
trim olive
i got 1.5mil on ante 10 earlier because movator is a little strong when used with burglar
trim olive
just built up a movator to +150 mult with burglar and it got reset because when ...
but then yk.. i was scammed
ionic wigeon
working on it
trim olive
where tf is this mountain top😭
trim olive
ive been making some repetition decks and the game is scamming me
ionic wigeon
@trim olive check the github, added new joker and should have fixed the mountain scam
trim olive
damn i didnt get notification.. ill have a look when i wake up
ionic wigeon
:3?
trim olive
sleeping schedule is a bit dead, i slept for like 11hrs and havent been on balatro yet
ionic wigeon
you're good
trim olive
rightyo, ive finished making my uno card texture pack, time to use it while using your mod
ionic wigeon
!!
trim olive
the movator resets every hand
trim olive
😅 it was good changing it to 2 because 5 was busted but yeh.. the number doesnt go up
ionic wigeon
odd...
trim olive
every hand it does the "reset!" thingy
graceful grotto
😅 it was good changing it to 2 because 5 was busted but yeh.. the number doesnt...
wouldn't 2 be good paired with wee
ionic wigeon
apparently I accidentally broke it somehow
need help still
@opaque burrow
can you help me?
opaque burrow
With what? Ideally send the snippet of code and explain what's going wrong.
ionic wigeon
ok so
I can't send the snippet rn, but, its resetting every hand
only happened after I added the hook context
opaque burrow
Does hook have context like that? Doesn't look like it should be triggering anyways,
opaque burrow
Is the problem happening on the version you have on github?
ionic wigeon
yes
opaque burrow
The multiplier is resetting after every hand played for a maximum of 2 mult?
Or do you specifically want it to not reset after the Hook discards 2 cards?
Green joker gets -1 mult after the hook discard, which if you're trying to make a riskier version of Movator where you gain mult faster at the risk of a single discard completely ruining what you have built up rather than a simple -1 mult, I think it's true to the game to keep it, especially as a common. It's just like running into one of the suit bosses while having suit jokers of that suit.
opaque burrow
Anyways, after a bit of testing, I've decided I have no idea how the hook context works. You can do and G.GAME.blind.name ~= "The Hook", ~= means not equal to in Lua, and that should work, with the caveat that you'll be able to discard normally during the hook and it won't reset you then either.
ionic wigeon
Mods still in development, just on hiatus while I wait for others to send ideas for something I'm working on
ionic wigeon
still waiting ;(
ionic wigeon
I knowss
dont worry the song is in development and I have a couple ideas myself
new jokers should be added in 1-2 days
noble sentinel
hoi, just popping in to keep an eye out to see where this mod goes 
ionic wigeon
hi @noble sentinel :3
currently in progression of making the first legendary, and getting a song from kyotsugyon
i do have a github page if you want to download the mod
noble sentinel
sure thing
ionic wigeon
https://github.com/Kyiranes/vivid-stasis-balatro/tree/main
you need this, lovely and steamodded
(lovely is also shown how to download here)
noble sentinel
am well aware, thank you regardless
ionic wigeon
my bad+
ionic wigeon
teehee
ionic wigeon
currently working on Plain Rice, which is like this so far. I dont know how to make it check for cards / booster packs and need help with that
ionic wigeon
as it turns out cards and booster packs both count as cards when purchased