#JoJokers Mod

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calm wasp
small venture
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PEAAAKKKKK

icy grove
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oh the timing

tired stirrup
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BRUW?!
you stole my fucking mod name

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i been desighning them for like a month now

icy grove
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@calm wasp would you be interested in a business opportunity

dark swallow
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can't wait to use Gioker

icy grove
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you beat us out by like a day or two on making the thread lmao

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the timing is crazy

tired stirrup
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Like, i already made a list of all stands 3-6

icy grove
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make a group chat and we can go over the logistics

calm wasp
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I'll be able to chat more when I get home. Kinda at school

icy grove
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👍

royal dome
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I'll look into this after you guys settled with the naming stuff ig

icy grove
calm wasp
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yea

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perfect timing actually

icy grove
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oh alright

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modlich is asleep at the moment

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but i think i can handle things here

calm wasp
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sounds good

icy grove
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just double checking you're aware of what's happening and you're cool with it

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hoping to merge mods and we're gonna work on the mod as a group the three of us
i'll make a github commit for the merge and we can go from there
there's no overlaps with jokers you've done or jokers we've done so no conflicts on that end
yeah that's kinda it actually

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modlich does art and I do code

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are you cool with that

calm wasp
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yeah

icy grove
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okay

calm wasp
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im not super good at art so its better if someone else does it

icy grove
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i'll let you know when i make the pr

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oh also what's with these secret abilities

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they seem interesting

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ooh i get it

calm wasp
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it was an idea i came up with to make the jokers a little more interesting

icy grove
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there's a little splash text that hints at the ability

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I thought they were just completely hidden and that sounded kinda dumb

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yeah that is pretty cool

calm wasp
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it makes them kind of pointless if they are completly hidden

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and the text changes when you complete whatever the text says

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to the ability

icy grove
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yeah that's super cool

calm wasp
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how many jokers do you have done so far

icy grove
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3 with art, 1 with full functional code, 1 i'm currently working on

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we're planning to go chronologically through parts

calm wasp
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ahh okay

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i kinda just went with whatever i felt like doing at the moment

icy grove
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that's fair

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modlich doesn't want manga spoilers tho

calm wasp
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thats fair

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tusk was the only part 7 one i had any ideas for

icy grove
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i guess star platinum is no longer fully coded because it needs a secret effect

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ive got a good one in mind

calm wasp
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i was going to try to make Cream next

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ive got an idea for that one

icy grove
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destroy a random unscored card

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smthn like that

calm wasp
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i was thinking of spawning a black hole card and then for the secert ability, it destroys the 3 left most cards on black hole use

icy grove
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what if it destroyed cards and its secret ability was to make a black hole for every 5 cards destroyed

calm wasp
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i think thats more balanced so ill go with that

icy grove
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alright

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i think i've got it

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just need to fix the sprite positions

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@calm wasp you restricted upload access

calm wasp
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shit lemme fix that

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you know where that setting is on github?

icy grove
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i have no idea

calm wasp
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i can add you as a collaborator

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whats your username

icy grove
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Maratby

calm wasp
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is it the one with the anime pfp

icy grove
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that's very unspecific but yes nobody shares my username

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except on roblox

calm wasp
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invite is pending

calm wasp
uncut sluice
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since it looks like you've settled on keeping this one as the primary, the mod prefix should be changed as it conflicts with Jester's Privilege (I assume it was copied as a template)

icy grove
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yeah you got me

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yeah i changed the mod prefix to jojo

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that shouldn't conflict with anything afaik

uncut sluice
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that's what I changed my local to

icy grove
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is that a good thing

uncut sluice
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it just matches what I changed it to on my machine so they could run together

icy grove
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oh okay

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well then that's good

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i made the commit

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that oughta do it

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im gonna download the mod from github to make sure it all worked though

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seems like it all went through just fine

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that makes it official then

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also star platinum :D

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each card gives +5 chips, chip value increases per consecutive card played without discarding

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it's like a barrage of chips

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we thought that was pretty clever

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for a secret effect i'm not too sure but my first thought was
if chip value is above 100, on the final hand of round, gain +5 hands and gives Xmult equal to remaining discards for the rest of the round, resets chip value at end of round

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because you know, timestop, 5 second timestop, continues to incentivise not using discards

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spends a "resource" to do so and can essentially save you from death

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i still need to wrap my head around your system for the secret effects

calm wasp
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thats seems good to me

uncut sluice
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I guess technically you can just have an effect that the description doesn't mention.

calm wasp
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i mean you could, it would just be a little confusing when it starts doing something random

icy grove
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the way warlord does it is nice cause it gives a little splash text to hint you towards it and then tells you what the effect is after it triggers once

uncut sluice
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fancy. the olympus mod has a couple of hidden effects but they are generally pretty basic

icy grove
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i will work on that tomorrow because i am going to sleep very soon

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i don't know what i'll do for the splash text

uncut sluice
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can never get away from "splash" can you?

calm wasp
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splash is the best joker in the game

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trib is mid

icy grove
uncut sluice
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I assume you'll have a hamon card with a splash effect

calm wasp
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that would be funny

fickle lagoon
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Maybe the Joker Evolution API could be used for the ACTs, Requiems and fringe cases like Killer Queen and Pucci’s Stand line?

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Then again the Requiems could probably use a Spectral based on the arrow

icy grove
fickle lagoon
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Ah, fair

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I can contribute ideas but I can’t code so take that as you will, Jojo used to be one of my hyperfixations

elfin kindle
calm wasp
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this guy is busted

tired stirrup
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EYY THATS MY MAN!

tired stirrup
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do remember to make it the "once per ante" thing, as to not make an unbeatable game

calm wasp
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yeah i should put that on

icy grove
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oh W

tired stirrup
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updated the list of the jojokers 3-6

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o wont be doing the post-6 ones on account iof not wanting to get spoilers, i can wait for the anime

elfin kindle
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my god

calm wasp
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i have some idea i want to try and i dont want to spoil anyone

tired stirrup
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perfect

elfin kindle
calm wasp
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Im going to push my current branch to the main

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made pull request

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its merged

proper flint
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we can add ideas for jokers right?

tired stirrup
proper flint
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hell yeah

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Marilyn Manson - For every $1 spent, add +1 mult.
Heaven's Door - Remove all debuffs from cards in hand when this JoJoker is sold.

tired stirrup
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removing debuffs is a pure negative

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maybe in the same idea

proper flint
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yeah ig it is just like Chicot

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hmm

tired stirrup
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"when sold, each card in hand has 2/3 chance to gain a random enhancement"

proper flint
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i like that!

tired stirrup
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and i think we can do better with manson

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"X0.1 for every $ spent, reset if haven't spent any $ in shop"

proper flint
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oh shit thats good bc if you spend too much you wont have anything to spend in the shop

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yeah send it

calm wasp
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Alright, i had an idea for Killer Queen that is a bit complex
Every time a joker is triggered, there is a 1/2 chance for this joker to get x chip amout and x mult amount
Also, a 1/6 chance every time a joker triggers this, it "blows up" (destroying the joker) reseting the chip and mult but adds a little more to the chip and mult gain

calm wasp
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plus eventually i want to add evolution so it can evolve and do something special with stray cat

tired stirrup
calm wasp
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Maybe we could do that for cheap trick since the joker is looking at the "back"

tired stirrup
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the "it kills you, lol" stands are hard to jokerify

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and this works relay good

proper flint
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maybe notorious big is like "prevents death; upon death prevention, this joker transforms and becomes eternal"
notorious big transformed: eternal, gains +1 mult per card scored

proper flint
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ty :D or better yet make it start out as Carne and then on death it turns into Notorious B.I.G.

tired stirrup
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love seeing the hard-cause-evil stands get good ideas

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but i thikn this would be too good, cause you basicly have a mr bones that gives mult

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a better idea would be, that it activates if its destroyed, and not sold

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like by dagger or madness

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or some of the spectrals

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and add like a 1/10 to destroy on round start

icy grove
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someone forgot to change the output file type to mp4

calm wasp
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yes

icy grove
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i have been really struggling to code star platinum's secret effect

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just cannot get the hand/discard changes to work

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probably just gonna code something else and come back to it

calm wasp
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there thats better

proper flint
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oooh secret abilities?

calm wasp
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all of the jokers will have one. Not all of them from the start but eventually

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i made kraftwork and im still trying to figure that one out

icy grove
calm wasp
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i just noticed the black

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it goes away after 2 secs

icy grove
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anyway

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i think

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magicians red should be 2.5x mult if played hand is a red suit flush

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instead of the inverse blackboard thing

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would go a lot better with the red fury hand too

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(also why's it called red fury and not crossfire hurricane)

calm wasp
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im just changing the display name though. its staying red fury in code

icy grove
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you might wanna change the name in code too

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you can probably find and replace it to change it

icy grove
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i think it'd be stupid broken if it had this ability and that secret ability

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and i think the inverse blackboard thing has bad synergy with that secret ability so

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what if it permanently added +mult to all red suit cards played

calm wasp
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i think i would need to make it rare for that

icy grove
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i think it'd be fine as uncommon if it was like +3 mult

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the rarities and values can always be changed later

calm wasp
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yeah

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ill try it

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time to go steal hikers source code

icy grove
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based

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i think i'm gonna try whitesnake next to challenge myself

calm wasp
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aight

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and now that im looking at hikers code, i cant just add mult to a card

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other_card has an ability called "perma_bonus" and thats chips

icy grove
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can you do the star platinum secret effect it didn't like me very much

calm wasp
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depends what it is

icy grove
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on the final hand of round, if it has at least +100 chips, it gives +5 hands, removes all discards and gives xmult for the rest of the round equal to the number of discards you had
and then sets its chip value to 0

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it's a 5-hand timestop

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gives 1.5x mult if you have 1 or less discards when it activates so its not useless if you have 0

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i just couldn't get the hands and discards to change when I coded it

calm wasp
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is star platinum supposed to reset at the end of a round?

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wait nvm

icy grove
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it also

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might reset from the hook boss

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the one that discards 2 random cards when hand is played

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yeah i think that'll also reset it?

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didn't test

calm wasp
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that is context.discard so it prolly will

icy grove
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yeah makes sense then

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i was thinking about

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after it timestops the first time

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straight evolves into star platinum the world which lets you activate the timestop on command in shorter bursts instead of only on the final hand of round

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like say if it's the rightmost joker, after you play a hand, it does the timestop stuff based on how many chips it has

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and rather than resetting chips to 0 it just deducts a certain number from the total

calm wasp
icy grove
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mk

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is cmoon's effect codeable

calm wasp
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on main you can take the current chips and mult and flip them

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thats the only way i thought about coding it

icy grove
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that's kinda

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worthless

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a lot of the time

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i think we should change the effect

tired stirrup
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i need to come up with something for Man In The Mirror
cause its my fav stand in terms of design

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"When the joker to the left activates, copy the effect of the joker to the right, and trigger it instantly"
??

calm wasp
tired stirrup
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realised that star platinum + splash will go crazy

calm wasp
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it goes crazy without

tired stirrup
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add Skipping Stone + Crystal Geode from NLM to it and its a sweep

calm wasp
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i think this secert ability kind of nerfs the synergy with burglar

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which is prolly a good thing lol

tired stirrup
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ye

calm wasp
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@icy grove i updated the way secret abilites are coded and i commited to the main. If you have any questions just ping me

icy grove
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oh wait yeah what'd whitesnake's secret ability be

calm wasp
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Maybe depending on whatever editions are currently stored, it gains some sort of buff

calm wasp
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And it unlocks if you have 1 of every edition stored at once

icy grove
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i think it should just unlock if you have the max stored (5)

tired stirrup
calm wasp
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that could work

icy grove
tired stirrup
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or just when you sell an edition stand joker

icy grove
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that seems too easy to activate

tired stirrup
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since, in theory, he could take Cheap Trick out of you

tired stirrup
icy grove
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well this isn't something we can especially control

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some people have a joker pool in the 1000s

tired stirrup
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maybe, when its "storage" of edditions is maxed out?

icy grove
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creates a random jojokers consumable at end of round if it has max storage

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maybe it would have to make a booster pack to be balanced casue max storage might be difficult

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depends on the mods

tired stirrup
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well, given the storage is like, 5 slots, and it goes down with every joker bourght, it could eb very weak to have this

maybe, for every 2 edditions in storage, create a random JoJoker consumable/random Stand-Disk consumable at the end of round

tired stirrup
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maybe the given consumables cound be based on the editions?

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like, if you have 2 polychrome, then you get a spectral

icy grove
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the problem with these is that modded editions exist

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a "anything else" category wouldn't do things like cryptid's astral edition justice

tired stirrup
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for 2 foil you get a planet,
for 2 holo you get a tarrot
and if you have 3 different ones, you get a jojo

icy grove
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oh i've got an idea

tired stirrup
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the 3dif thing makes it sot hat the more modded edditions you have, the better for you

icy grove
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when it reaches max slots, selling any non-stand joker creates a jojokers consumable

tired stirrup
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i think it maes sense

icy grove
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it's like he's still taking the discs but can't hold onto them so they get discarded to your consumable slots

tired stirrup
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ye

icy grove
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also helps fast track the cmoon evolution condition which i think should be
sell 2 part 6 jojokers, or star platinum the world

calm wasp
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and you should have goo goo dolls for it to work

icy grove
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but then when you evolve it what happens to the stored editions

icy grove
icy grove
tired stirrup
calm wasp
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maybe the lower a scored card rank it, the more chips you gain

icy grove
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on the sheet it says number card ranks are inverted (how the hell do you code that)

tired stirrup
tired stirrup
calm wasp
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check what card is being scored and give chips

icy grove
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number card ranks being inverted has some very strange synergies

tired stirrup
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i mean, just hard code it i guess, since i dont think there are mods that add more ranks

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make 2 score as A, 3 as K, ect

icy grove
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it's number cards only

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so 2-10

tired stirrup
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oh ye

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jesus my memory is shit

calm wasp
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you would need to override a scoring function for it to work

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because you would need to make something like wee joker recognize that a 10 upgrades it

icy grove
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all you'd have to do is make the result of context.other.card:get_id return the opposite if you have that joker

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you could lovely patch that function and hardcode the rank changes if you have goo goo dolls

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wait it's get_id not is_rank

calm wasp
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alright im gonna search the code for the function that cards internal ranks are defined and attempt to patch it

icy grove
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in card.lua

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every card that checks for ranks uses this

calm wasp
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SMODS.ranks is a thing

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at least i used that to make the poker hand

icy grove
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it seems like it'd be just
if self.base.id == "10" then
return "2" right

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then the effect is like pareidolia where it makes the cards count as face cards without changing their chip values to those of face cards?

tired stirrup
calm wasp
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white snake turns into cmoon with googoo dolls

tired stirrup
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but why?

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what does googoo have to do with cmoon?

calm wasp
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wait i got them confused

tired stirrup
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you mean green child?

calm wasp
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yeah green grass of home

tired stirrup
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yoyoma?

icy grove
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?

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well

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i think it'd be waaay too specific if it required green grass of home

tired stirrup
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well, anyways.
some random ideas for the joker conumbles based on my stand ideas:
[Name - stand effect - consumabe effect]

Mechanical Museum - whatever it touches, open up and becomes a mechanical robot (alla Pirates Of The Caribbean stone-crabs) - up to 3 selected card become metal cards

Weird Science - can warp the shape of anything, as long as it follows the laws of topology (no tearing/sealing, see "Humans are 7-holed donuts") - select 3 card, midde and leftmost become the rightmist rank

Free Bird - can make any object be pass-thru as if it wasn't there - 3 selected cards become wild cards

icy grove
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just use dx tarots it got ported to 1.0.0

icy grove
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@calm wasp is there a reason you use local star_platinum = { instead of SMODS.joker

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i'm used to using SMODS.joker

calm wasp
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The main auto loads it as an smods joker

icy grove
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ahhh okay

calm wasp
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When making one just put it in a local and add it to the return at the bottom of the file

icy grove
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well there's no return to add it to because i'm in the part 6 one

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whitesnake is the first part 6 stand

calm wasp
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Just copy and paste one from another file and change the name to part 6 jokers

icy grove
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is there any difference between the parameters for smods.joker and the local key thing

calm wasp
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No

icy grove
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okay

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i will see if i can get whitesnake to work then

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also the world stops time for 7 seconds not 5

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it does then go up to 9 later but starts at 7

calm wasp
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My brain like the number 5 so I just put 5

icy grove
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makes sense

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also, why this

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i thought it was supposed to be context.other_card:get_id("14")

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smthn like that

calm wasp
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They both do the same thing

icy grove
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alright then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

calm wasp
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Its up to preference and I think it is easier to read that way

icy grove
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yeah that makes sense

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wait you made the world legendary??

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was that intentional

calm wasp
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i tested it in run and that is what i came up with

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its kind of broken if you get it working all the time

icy grove
# calm wasp i tested it in run and that is what i came up with

could it potentially get a weaker effect, become rare and then evolve into its current ability after destroying joestar stands (which it does when blind is selected the same as c.dagger does but only destroying joestar stands, powering up its ability when it does, that's its secret ability)

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you still have to work for it this way to justify its power level
i think it is too strong for rare but not strong enough for legendary

calm wasp
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i mean, we could make a new rarity called stand and all of them can have that

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so we dont have to debate of rarity lol

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and make an arrow consumable that spawns them

icy grove
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that would come with its own issues because then the rarity will be all over the place with different stands being different power levels

icy grove
icy grove
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some of these jokers so far are way stronger than others

calm wasp
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we could lower the amount that it takes to reset an ante?

icy grove
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i think if it's gonna get balance changes it should evolve into its current ability
it can start out as shadow the world from heritage then evolve into the world

calm wasp
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well, before we make stuff evolve i should make an evolution function

icy grove
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just use jokerevolution for it

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it has full support for modded evos

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oh also what context would I use for when a joker is sold

calm wasp
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is there any jokers in the base game that trigger on sell of other jokers?

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i cant think of one off the top of my head

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context.selling_stuff is for on sold

icy grove
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i know a modded joker that does

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i'll go check that

calm wasp
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campfire is context.selling_card

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that might be it

icy grove
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ouija board from sdm0's checks for rarity of the sold joker which is very similar to what i need to do anyway

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would context.card.config.center.edition give me the edition

calm wasp
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when i made ||tusk's|| secret ability i used context.other_card.edition

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oh wait you need rarity

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well wouldnt it just be joker.rarity?

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baseball card checks with context.other_card.config.center.rarity

icy grove
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ouija uses a slightly different path to check joker info

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which is this

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but it does center.rarity instead

calm wasp
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center is the parent class of joker so yeah that works

icy grove
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alright

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so with generate hint

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the first line is the hint and the second line is the ability info right

calm wasp
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yes

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if you need multiple lines put it in a table

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and send self as the first parameter

icy grove
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i copied the base code from the world so all that is sorted

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whitesnake's secret ability was that if you get another edition when it's full it makes a random jojokers consumable right?

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i don't remember what we decided on

calm wasp
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well, we dont have consumables yet

icy grove
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it should be really easy to make the consumables considering you have lists for stands from each part anyway

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gonna need consumables for whitesnake's secret ability so may as well make at least one now

calm wasp
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yeah just make a consumables.lua and then load it in main

icy grove
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i was thinking stand arrow for part 3
bow and arrow for part 4
either lighter, arrow head or broken arrow for part 5
and arrow shard for part 6

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would these be tarot cards or are we making custom consumables

calm wasp
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i was thinking of working on a part 7 joker next so ill make ||corpse parts|| for that

calm wasp
icy grove
icy grove
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virus cards?

calm wasp
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that should work

icy grove
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alright

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i don't know much about custom consumables

calm wasp
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you could look at cryptid code cards to get an understanding. At least thats what i would do

icy grove
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cryptid's code hurts my head to read there's so much stuff in that mod

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can we make the text color for virus cards be purple or is that taken by another consumable

calm wasp
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isnt tarot cards color purple?

icy grove
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i don't know i'm colorblind

calm wasp
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oh okay lol

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how about like a yellow becuase the arrows are yellow

icy grove
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alright

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what should whitesnake's secret hint be

calm wasp
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if your doing the 5 editons thing you could put "Obtain 5 disks" or something along those lines

icy grove
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i'm gonna put "Collect More" actually

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cause the effect only does something when it overflows

calm wasp
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alright

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and um if you think of a secert ability for kraftwork or goo goo dolls let me know

icy grove
calm wasp
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that could work

icy grove
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not sure what the best way to do whitesnake's edition storage is

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i'm ofc doing it with card.ability.extra values but

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it would be more convenient for operations if they were in a list

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i don't know how to put them in a list such that i don't have to check which ones are filled and which are not filled

calm wasp
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use a table and store the names of the editons and then use a conditional to set them on the cards

icy grove
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is it like python where I can just append an item to the list and it'll replace nil if it finds that

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also do i need to use pairs or ipairs to iterate through the list

calm wasp
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if its not a 2d array they you should just need to use pairs

icy grove
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alright

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how do I make the secret ability activate

calm wasp
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in a return message, set the message to JOJO.ACTIVATE_SECRET_ABILITY(self)

icy grove
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so just

return{
  message = JOJO.ACTIVATE_SECRET_ABILITY(self)
}

right?

calm wasp
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message = that

icy grove
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also you spelled secret wrong

calm wasp
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im terrible at spelling so that wont be the first time

icy grove
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ive been correcting spelling mistakes as i go

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when whitesnake is working how do I merge this in a way that it doesn't get replaced by your code when you add it

calm wasp
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make a branch for your stuff and then when your done merge it

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i would get github desktop if you dont have it already

icy grove
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i'm still pretty new to github does it auto merge stuff when you press merge

calm wasp
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yeah it does it all for you. it will tell you if you have any conflicts

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just make a pull request and ill look it over

icy grove
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just got github desktop

calm wasp
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cause i dont know if you can merge it since you dont own the repo

icy grove
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what does it mean to clone a repository

calm wasp
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it adds the repo code to a file

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so the current stuff

icy grove
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but I already have the code

calm wasp
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put the repo somewhere else and put your changes in it

icy grove
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mk

calm wasp
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you commit to your branch through that

icy grove
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what about extra.secAbility and extra.secAbilityText

calm wasp
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the main adds secAbility as a self value and secAbilityText isnt needed anymore because of the function

icy grove
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okay

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do I need to do anything special to make the return only happen the first time the ability triggers

calm wasp
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put it in an if statement and check if self.secAbility is false

icy grove
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do I need to change secAbility to true here

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or is that also handled by the function

calm wasp
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the function does that. thats why you pass on self

icy grove
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alright

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this should be it right

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just making sure

calm wasp
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yes

icy grove
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alright

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what's the context for when a joker is added

tired stirrup
icy grove
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dont think down about yourself
you're the only one between all of us who can make art of that quality

calm wasp
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context.buying_card

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try that

tired stirrup
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its just that i dont get any of balatro moding lol

icy grove
icy grove
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it's not too difficult to pick up once you get over lua not having indents and end placements being a bitch

calm wasp
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i cant think of any jokers in mods i played that do stuff upon a joker generating

icy grove
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also if aurinko is loaded i'm having whitesnake apply editions to planet cards

calm wasp
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sounds good

icy grove
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while you're here @tired stirrup just to fill you in on some stuff
we decided to make a new consumable called virus cards which will be those arrow consumables we talked about before

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you already know what they are and what they do can you make a sprite sheet for those

tired stirrup
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so sprites from the JoJoDnD?

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as consumables?

icy grove
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no

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what

tired stirrup
icy grove
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the arrows that create random jokers from respective parts

tired stirrup
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oohhh

tired stirrup
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well
will there be separate boosters for each part of stand-getting, or will it be all in one?

icy grove
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there will be virus packs which give these virus cards

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like tarot packs

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and other ways to generate them

tired stirrup
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i still believe all the virus talk from part 5 was retconned
how about "Stand Pack" or "Power Pack" or somethign liek that, as to not enter the gray territory of the virus

icy grove
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stand pack would make you think it's a buffoon pack containing jojokers

icy grove
tired stirrup
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i mean, packs have the art of a card from possible given cards,
so i would first need some consumable art

tired stirrup
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you get stabbed, you get stand

icy grove
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well then we could call them meteor cards

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and meteor packs

tired stirrup
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i was thinking the style would be Whitesnake discs, since its the only cannon appearance of stands being just there to pick up

icy grove
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the discs should give specific stands if it was whitesnake and this would conflict with whitesnake's current effect

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arrows at least encapsulate the "you use it and you get a stand"

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we could have a secret spectral which is a stand disk that lets you create any stand of your choice like cryptid's pointer

tired stirrup
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i think we are not talking about the same thing

icy grove
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okay let's go back

tired stirrup
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you think the consumable would just give a random JoJoker?

icy grove
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from their specific part according to what they represent, yes

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the bow and arrow would give a random part 4 stand because it features in part 4

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there'd of course be more cards than just these, but that's what the arrow-like ones would do

tired stirrup
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what im saying, is that the tarot of effects, based on non-cannon stands, that would work like other consumables, with bearly a common theme, should be whitesnake discs

icy grove
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just make a config for non canon stands and have them be jokers

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the only non canon stands would be OC stands, TWOH is the only "non-canon" stand that i'd consider including

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and i'm really not sure what to do about TWOH

tired stirrup
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Bow & Arrow = random part 3
Photograph = random part 4
Broken Arrow = random part 5
Stand Stash = random part 6 (the stash in the tractor tire)

tired stirrup
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i mean, its a cool way to show off stands

icy grove
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i dont think that fits in this mod considering we're not implementing the users, only stands

tired stirrup
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i dont see how OC's need users to be inclouded, but its not like i can make you mod it in

icy grove
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they don't, but you're trying to make their stands consumables

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which is weird because we already make stands jokers

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so why not just make the OC stands also jokers under a new config

tired stirrup
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ok...

icy grove
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you can put more in depth effects on them as jokers too

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and they get a secret ability

icy grove
tired stirrup
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cause the 2-left handed woman was handing the stnads out using the arrows

icy grove
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also i think arrow shard is better for part 6, as in the shard in the pendant given to jolyne

tired stirrup
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k

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im not drawing this today, its almost midnight

icy grove
calm wasp
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for part 6 the disks work better because most of the user got stands form the disks

icy grove
icy grove
tired stirrup
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you two decide theis all by yourself, and then tell me your decision after i show up tiomorow

icy grove
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sleep well then

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do you know if the virus stuff from part 5 retconned or not @calm wasp
if it was then we're gonna call them meteor cards instead of virus cards

calm wasp
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not that i know of

icy grove
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modlich says that they were

calm wasp
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its the only explanations for how stands became a things

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that i remeber

icy grove
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i'll look into it later

tired stirrup
tired stirrup
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Reasoning*

icy grove
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doesnt just have to be those four

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there could be other jojos related cards in there like

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Flesh Bud - Turns 1 selected card into a Bud Card.
(Bud Card is an enhancement that gives 1.2x mult and makes the card count as a 5)

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yk key items or things from the series

icy grove
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or it could

not have a pack

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you know i didn't really think about that option

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might have to increase the power of the consumables to account for this though

icy grove
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finally found the missing bracket in whitesnake code

teal lake
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Who put Kraft Werk on the team

icy grove
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we're putting them all in

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even survivor

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hmmm

tired stirrup
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Idea for survivor:
Whenever a card-score-joker triggers, 1/10 chance for the current card to retrigger (max 4 per card)

strange garden
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i dont understand how do you evolve magicians red

calm wasp
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Play full house of red kings and queens

strange garden
#

ah

strange garden
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the world triggered once and didnt retrigger any other ante

calm wasp
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I'll look into that later

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And are you sure you were scoring 2x the blind cap on the boss?

strange garden
calm wasp
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Aight

strange garden
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prolly a problem with the "once per ante" code?

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ill retry it but yh

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nvm it worked

strange garden
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alr but the world's secret ability didnt work

calm wasp
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I'm in school rn so I can't really troubleshoot anything

strange garden
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not telling u to do so lol just reporting

calm wasp
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the worlds secert ability should be fixed now

calm wasp
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Idea for Golden Experience and GER
GE - Gain XMult depending on the interest cap. Increase cap by 1 when a boss blind is defeated.
GER - Same as GE but now you gain the blind reward an extra 3 times (Death Loop). And increase the cap gain to 2.

calm wasp
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For future reference i have made evolution functions to use on jokers

tired stirrup
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I have came to a conclusion

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I have always stated that i like mods that are very vanillish, and that i do not like mods that are overly not vanilla

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this realization of JoJokers have became too unvanilla for me to enjoy it

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I have nothing against you using my previously provided ideas and sprites, but i will not be providing any new ones of either

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It's just that the "Joker Evolution" and the "Secret Abilities" is very unvanilla, to the point where i no longer find it a good mod (imo)

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good luck, may the power of NEO be with you

silver olive
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My game crashes when I load the mod, could it be incompatible with other mods ?

calm wasp
silver olive
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Let me take a screenshot

calm wasp
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And I'm at work currently so I'll respond later

silver olive
#

Here's what I have

calm wasp
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It looks like a code error. I'll be home in like an hour and I'll check and fix it asap

calm wasp
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Cause normally on errors that I get it usually says currently installed mods

silver olive
#

I have these mod

elfin kindle
calm wasp
silver olive
calm wasp
icy grove
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in the slowest turn of events imaginable i have the first half of the whitesnake effect working? i think? i can't tell until I make the second part

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this should be the easy part though

tired stirrup
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i mean, i might come up with good ideas for jojokers, but i wont be notyfying any of you, just be saying shit in the main modding chat

wary bridge
tired stirrup
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no, but i was using that name for like a month at that point for the theoretical mod that i was compiling jokers for

wary bridge
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sucks to happen dude

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@tired stirrup sorry

mild cosmos
#

Hermit Purple

calm wasp
mild cosmos
# calm wasp Sweet!

If you're interested I can show you more in DMs if you want a friend recently introduced me to the game and they showed me your mod

calm wasp
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I accepted the friend request you sent

calm wasp
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Hermit Purple Idea - At the start of round,Pin the joker to the right of this joker and retrigger that joker once

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Secret ability could activate if the pinned joker is Photograph (Spirit Photography)

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and upon selling the Photograph, spawn a random stand of a main villian.

calm wasp
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New Version has been merged to the main

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lemme know if any bugs are found

silver olive
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Hey I wanted to know, do you plan do to evolution with stands ? Like MIH or GER, I take as an exemple the others Balatro mods "fusion" or even "pokemon".

icy grove
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i think so

calm wasp
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its one of the new editions

silver olive
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Right but as a separable joker from GE

calm wasp
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yes

silver olive
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I mean I can have GER without GE right ?

calm wasp
#

well, you need to evolve GE with an item to get GER

silver olive
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Ok you answered my question

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Great mod btw

calm wasp
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thanks

silver olive
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Also are you planning to add non-canon stand as TW Over heaven ?

calm wasp
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maybe

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they are not priority though

icy grove
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TWOH is a strange case

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unlike the part 7/8 jokers there aren't really any other "non canon" stands like TWOH

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except I guess shadow the world?

silver olive
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Well actually there is

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From George Joestar mostly

calm wasp
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doesnt the purple haze spinoff have some too i think?

silver olive
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Yeah PPH distorsion

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With a poison that kills you in 1.5 sec

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And other good stands but in the novels you have some good stand

delicate plover
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love it

calm wasp
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Glad you're enjoying it!

calm wasp
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One of the jokers that is in the works

sinful citrus
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what happens when you sell a negative perishable joker

calm wasp
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It does nothing

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I made sure there was no infinite money glitch

sinful citrus
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i wws more interested in infinite perishable refresh glitch

calm wasp
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i got rid of the infinite perishable glitch because it took away from the whole point of the joker

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buying a shit load of jokers and making an army

spring pumice
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chance to gain handsize lmao thats clever

spring pumice
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thought i feel like the description is a bit quite contrived

calm wasp
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I couldn't really think of any way to make it shorter

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I'm kind of thinking about making the secret ability appear as an info queue off the side but I haven't gotten around to that yet

delicate plover
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idea for two jokers

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Epitaph: After 3 rounds are skipped, transform into King Crimson
King Crimson: Each played Blind also gives its skip tag

icy grove
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yknow

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that is probably a better KC effect

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than the current concept

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problem i have with it is that if you have like double tags or something it's just bad

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it'll instantly use up all your double tags and you can't stop it

hollow shell
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I didn't manage to record it but I found interesting thing. If you have "The World" joker, your boss blind is "The Joke" from Cryptid and you beat it with 2x requirements - instead of staying in the same ante or going straight to ante 8 - you'll advance into ante 7

icy grove
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i'll take a look at this once branches are merged

calm wasp
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Alright, A new version is now on github. Lemme know if any bugs or crashes are found

icy grove
icy grove
calm wasp
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I pushed it to main so it should be

icy grove
calm wasp
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Not yet, I had to leave the house pretty much the second I got out of bed

icy grove
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oh i see

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i can make one from here i think

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but i don't know what was added since the last version

calm wasp
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Well, jokers added where White snake, Hermit Purple, Osiris, Killer Queen and Hey Ya. Localization was added and magicians red was reworked.

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There was some other minor stuff but I can't think of any other things off the top of my head

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Oh, and gold experience and GER

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Wait no that was last version

calm wasp
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There should be a release now

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And im gonna count this as the first content release

icy grove
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makes sense

iron igloo
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.

icy grove
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yeah hi

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don't worr

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y

calm wasp
calm wasp
grizzled grove
#

peak

calm wasp
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new small bugfix release is now out

calm wasp
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If you were having a problem with cards not scoring, a new fix is out

calm wasp
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New small Version is out

delicate plover
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we're adding jojo stuff to cardsauce, hopefully we don't have too much overlap? i am using that king crimson idea i dropped here though

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but so far we've had some pretty different ideas on how they're implemented

calm wasp
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Yeah, for king crimson we had an idea of "When skipping a blind, enter the shop" and the secret ability will prolly involve epitaph

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I'll be sure to check out the mods tho, seems cool

wary spoke
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I'ma be watching this one

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is there a general update to the ones that aren't available in the released mod?

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I think I'd be able to assist a bit with the stands

calm wasp
wary spoke
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ah I see!

calm wasp
mild cosmos
icy grove
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what happened to warlord shado anywy

mild cosmos
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OH ! the other guy i dont know where he is

icy grove
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a lot of the jokers have become deprecated (mostly the probabilities on KQ/hey ya/tusk)

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and D4C BADLY needs balancing

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but his code is so strange I don't get it

mild cosmos
icy grove
mild cosmos