#(Concepting) Coonie's StupidSuits & Poor Raccoon's Fortune

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I haven't started on either of these mods ngl. This thread is too keep me accountable and share my ideas.

I'll start with PRF because there's a lot less to say

Poor Raccoon's Fortune

The gimmick here is simple. It's a traditional joker/content pack with a slight twist: All art so be made by me exclusively by composing free pixel art assets

Coonie's StupidSuits

Adds 4 suits (2 of which are concepted) and associated jokers with new suit colors aqua and purple (as opposed to dark and light).

Ringtails:

  • Symbol: Simplified raccoon tail
  • Color: Dark purple

Jokers:

  • Sneaky Joker: Played cards with Ringtail suit give +3 mult when scored
  • Shiny Object: Played cards with Ringtail suit give x1.1 mult when scored. For each 5 Ringtail cards scored, get $4 immediately
  • Rac and Coonie: Retrigger all Ringtail suit cards
  • Trashy Treasure: Played cards with Ringtail suit give $1 when scored
  • Hoarded Pebble: Played cards with Ringtail suit give +7 Mult when scored
  • Danger Stick: Played cards with Ringtail suit give +50 chips when scored
  • Rascal Heart: 1 in 2 chance for Played cards with Ringtail Suit to give 1.5x mult when scored
    (And also probably a few more but that's nearly enough to match the base game + Flounders ones for each suit)

Homos:

  • Symbol: 2 intertwined male symbols
  • Color: Seagreen/ aqua

Jokers:

  • Proud Joker: Played cards with Homo suit give +3 mult when scored
  • Rhinestone: Played cards with Homo suit give x1.2 Mult when scored, 1 in 2 chance to retrigger homo suit cards
  • Guy and Dude: Retrigger all Homo suit cards
  • Tax on Straights: Played cards with Homo suit give $1 when scored
  • Sack of Stones: Played cards with Homo suit give +7 Mult when scored
  • Taser: Played cards with Homo suit give +50 chips when scored
  • Fancy Ring: 1 in 2 chance for Played cards with Ringtail Suit to give 1.5x mult when scored
    (And also probably a few more but that's nearly enough to match the base game + Flounders ones for each suit)
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Poptabs (partially concepted)

Symbol: Soda can tab
Color: Teal

(There will also be other suit jokers, like a version of Smeared (Crosseyed). And probably more)

hardy moth
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Uncommon, only to go with shiny stone

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Because it's based on Flounder's mod

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And having all suit jokers for all suits

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Reminds me I need to do a version of Shiny Object for Homos and Rhinestone for Ringtails

hardy moth
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You already done a example of the suit card template?

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Nah no actual work has been done yet

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I just thought in the shower that I ought to actuality make this a thread so I end up making it

hardy moth
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1 in 3 is much gambling tilt

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It's based on current bloodstone

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Iirc

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Old bloodstone are X2 and 1 in 3

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Ah yeah I need to fix it then

hardy moth
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Lol I bet

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hardy moth
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Is a good idea legendaries based on the suits?

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One for ringtails and other for homos

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Tbh probably. And then have them fur the real suits in PRF

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And I also need to su the rares, like DeFused / Fusion has

hardy moth
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The rares... mmmm

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both needs have the same effect or can be different?

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A rare based in cards are wee, maybe a wee like can be good

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But insead of chips

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Can be xmult like obelisk, if you continue playing the suit, the xmult grows

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But if you play another suit

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Well

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Reset

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A suit boss can troll like the plant on vanilla

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Like Diamond Bard, Spade Archer, etc

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Also just remembered I'm gonna have to have tarots

hardy moth
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yeah

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The Woods and the The Parade for Ringtails and Homos maybe?

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The Fridge for Poptabs

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and then I still have to think of the 4th suit in general, lol

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A bit less abstract than the real tarots, but they fit the vibes of this mod

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defusion spectral

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destroy 1 joker make 2 jokers of lower rarity

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I'd wanna make it selectable though, so people.... y'know use it

hardy moth
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you have a idea for a edition?

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or you stay with the vanilla ones?

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I think an edition might be fun, but like.... I somehow feel that coding a shader is a lot harder than smodded coding

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yeah i tried to make a shader but had no idea where to start

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i dont understand this

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is the shader of astral edition

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yeah, it's a lot of math

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that's the thing with shaders

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I'll, for one, be playing it with my whole modpack, lol. Both mods, though I'm gonna have to think of how to get StupidSuits to not take over

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steamodded have shader examples but

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remote marten
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Can you ever score straight with homo suit?

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and all-Homos straight will have to be a Gay Flush, can't be left a Straight Flush

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hardy moth
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Drag Flush

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because flush house will be Gay House

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I mean the name doesn't need to change besides "Straight"

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then I'd feel like I had to do it with every suit

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I'm already thinking that these might be better off as one mod, with the suits and their jokers just easily toggleable, but I like both names a lot

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"Poor Raccoon's Fortune + StupidSuits"
Is that name at all short of being ungodly way too long?

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Maybe keeping the Poor Raccoon's Fortune name, with the modules having their own prominent names. The modules collectively being said fortune.
StupidSuits
Derived Insanity (the original PRF idea)
JustShinyThings (Enhancements, and maybe editions)
Possibly more

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Also to be clear, if I could spare 20 bucks, I'd buy them anyway. And probably still will next month when I can do so

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For anyone confused at my nonchalance, cc0 is literally publlc domain

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2 of ringtails quick mockup

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@hardy moth what'cha think?

hardy moth
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How looks without this two pixels?

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Check the tiny red points

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tbh I think it ends up looking a bit phallic, here's a version with pixelslike that added to the smaller version too

hardy moth
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(Sorry bad english moment)

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you're good, do you mean that it looks good with the "fluff" added to the tails by the twos?

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Yes

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then yeah I understood :3

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hardy moth
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*they will work?

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Like betmma stuff

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I was thinking it'd just be a config, the weird frankenstein mod that is betmma's isn't really what I want

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but it'd end up the same in function, just turn off the sub-mods you don't want

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My idea for more jokers for the suits. In addition to what's been said before. Currently with all the vanillia suit stuff I also wanna add, I might add a whole module for it. Kinda a Flounder's Joker's 2 sorta thing

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shit I should give the ortalab suit jokers the Flounder's treatment too

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or at least add ortalab -sty;e common suit jokers for my suits

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tbh the uncommon suit jokers in ortalab aren't really my thing, being in-hand effects

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hardy moth
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What is a suit coin?

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also, why is diamonds still so ass

hardy moth
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A suit coin can be a XChips?

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I don't see why not, was wanting to ad xchips to this

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seems nessacary with 4 new suits, to make them somewhat unique

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Or normal tarots

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is a suggestion?

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Yeah

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Because you have, +chips, +mult

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Xmult

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Xchips

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generating tarots would make sense for something, either the coin or the uncommon, though it seems like the uncommons and coins are already linked

hardy moth
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And money

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I think incoperating retriggers is good too, like Rhinestone does

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to add some uniqueness

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just nerfed to uncommon

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hardy moth
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Another coin will be planets (pls no)

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Or poker hand lvl

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maybe most used hand though?

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planets are good then

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or maybe 1 in 2 chance to upgrade played poker hand if only [suit] is played

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would be good for a suit coin, though... kinda just bootleg buffed Space Joker

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not like the similarity is a bad thing

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I think in another bad idea, suit dice (EXTREME GAMBLING)

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1 on 6 of something broken related to suits

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But i dont have idea what can be used

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I... hate jokers like that ngl

hardy moth
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like there's another one in snow's mod, called ghost coin that's like 1 in 10 for x10 mult

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which... is cool, but I never pick it up

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*you put the old bloodstone*

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/joke

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just make it for every suit, lmfao

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more adding on to flounder's but badly

hardy moth
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it's only really useful with the infinity joker

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that makes all probabilities 100%

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also from snow's

hardy moth
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But affect ALL jokers and cards?

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yes

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makes lucky cards a dream

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Lucky cards op

hardy moth
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You remember?

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yes, for the mult only though, only was fixed a couple weeks ago. was from comnbing mika's with bettma's

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unless you mean a different bug

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@violet trout curious if you have any thoughts or suggestions on the suits, their jokers, or anything else (remember there is gonna be a full unthemed joker mod too)

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well, the uncommon one (the second one) is the real suit joker, the rest are just doing the Flounder's mod thing

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and the sinful joker ofc

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There'll be another more unique one for the suit coin and DeFused/Fusion one

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didn't think those up yet

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Ah, I see now. The Ringtail one is a combo between Blood and Rough, while the Homo one is a weaker Paladin.

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yeah, I kinda just thought of them right off the cuff, can definitely be replaced

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Homo might be better to be a combo between Agate and Arrowhead, but at that point, it might be a bit too similar to one of the Bunco Exotic Suit Stone Jokers.

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I forget those exist, but I do technically play with them, so I guess it's something to keep in mind

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also these aren't red/black suits they're their own two color system

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Purple and Aqua, with the specific suit colors for the 2 completed ones being a darkish bluey purple and a standard seagreen/aqua

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idk if that needs to be clarified, just thought that's why agate and arrowhead might have come to mind

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Coonie's making a joker pack? Hell yeah dude

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I have a suggestion, if I may

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by all means :3

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Since ringtails are based around trash pandas, maybe they could have some jokers that care about discards (trash), and since homos are like gay dudes, maybe they could have some sort of homo suit cards pair synergy

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hmm, interesting. I wouldn't mind adding some additional jokers beyond the flounder's set and the other "main" suit jokers for each

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also I think I'mma add xchips, so feel free to have that in your toolbox

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(As a reference to Garnet from SU.)

violet trout
sly cave
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I do like the idea in general though

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I'll keep thinking then, but thanks for the advice. 👍

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sorry if I'm overly critical

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I can be a bit ego in my projects, and it's probably not the best thing

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We are humans

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(Actually Im a dog pokemon and you a racoon)

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Working on a mockup for Homos. Whatcha think so far? It's kinda hard because of the small area the smaller symbols fit in

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I think this is a fairly decent improvement?

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Full 2 of homos mockup

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I think it looks good, but try with a 10 to see if it gets too cluttered

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Gotta try to means the arrows smaller if

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You could see from the vanilla suits which one takes up the most space and then limit the canvas in your software to that size

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I'll have to do it properly once at my pc

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redo 2 of ringtails mockup, this time taking the actual max dimensions into account, to make it easier to make other cards

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how does it look?

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Just me being incredibly lazy and using this thread to send the wip homos mockup to my pc

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and here;s the updated 2 of homos mockup

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Would anyone who's a bit quicker with graphics stuff than me be willing to do all the cards for ringtails and homos, now that the pips are done?

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I can do the big ones for the aces later, unless you'd wanna do that too

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here;s my current file, with transparency

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did the aces :3

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Should I

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Implement existing suits and their jokers

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What a niche skill, lol. Gotten better at drawing little raccoon tails to this point where this one only took like 30 seconds

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if you have homos you gotta have lesbians

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it would be really funny

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it would be funny, buy kinda not my vibes

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would also throw off the random-ass themeing of Ringtails, Homos and Poptabs (the planned but not yet implemented third suit)

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Keep in mind that PRF will have a joker pack and other stuff too. But StupidSuits is being worked on first

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If the 4 option wins, maybe the suits needs be more special, like a unique effect or something like

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how many suits will there be? 4?

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Yeah

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Ringtails, Homos, Poptabs, and a yet to be determined 4th suit

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you decided the 4 suit name?

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you answer in 0.0001 seconds

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violet trout
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Curious what cha come up with

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Alright, here's what I've got:

Shoes.

That's it, just shoes. It's the first thing that popped into my mind, and probably could be easily done. Plus, it'd make for some pretty funny Jokers. And here's what I have for the Friend Skins.

Ringtail: Rigby for Kings (cuz he's definitely a king in our hearts by the end), Michiru for Queens (cuz that's the best raccoon-lady I can think of rn), and Rambley for Jacks (cuz he's stupidly popular).

Homos: You for King (cuz you're the best gay fella in our hearts. 😊), uhhh....your choice of lesbian for Queens, and if it's not too much to ask, maybe me as Jacks (since I have a bit of it as well)?

Poptabs: Dr. Pepper as Kings (more popular with men), Coke as Queens (more popular with women), and Sprite as Jacks.

Shoes: Boots as Kings, High Heels for Queens, and Slippers for Jacks.

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Hmm... shoes ain't bad as a suit. Fits the vibe ngl

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And the skin ideas are nice too. Though I'd probably go Mountain Dew for kings because it's my favorite

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Dr Pepper is nice too

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Now if only I could art to actually make the skins, lol

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(I swear you used to be able to su quote replies on discord)

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yeah i was thinking paws because it'd work very well for the icon

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just a little paw print

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same with claws and whiskers

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Not sure how to handle the tarots

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not to overload you, but will you also have 4 new suit bosses?

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Maybe make a spectral that kinds 'activates' them and puts them into the tarot pool, while generating some StupidSuits cards, in that mode I mean

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The one for the Homos would be The Phobe

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Dunno the others yet

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honestly for poptabs it could be like, The Can

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Sounds about right. Lol

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cant think of any for Ringtails

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if you go with Paw it could be The Print

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The Rabies sounds like broken English and The Virus is too general

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The Plague is a bit too sinister i feel

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came to mind when you mentioned virus

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The Mask? To keep it related but nonsinister like most suit hoss names?

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The Foam could work, causes foaming at the mouth

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The problem is suit bosses have inconsistent naming

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got a few good ideas still knockin around in my noggin

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Life the club one is just The Club, right?

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yep

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goad is related to spades cause its a farming tool, head i can see indirectly because it's counter to 'feeling with your heart', youre thinking with your head

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diamonds and Window is an odd one.

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best relation i can think of is like, jewellers, where diamonds are behind glass

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all suit bosses or all boss blinds in general?

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Defenstration

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i see

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But idk prolly not

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They're just all phonecian letters I think

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except for flint

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that ones just made up

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Yeah, lol

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yeah

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@violet trout do you mind if we do Paws instead of Shoes? You're more than welcome to come up with some face card skins for it if you're up to it

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furry face cards for paws blueprint

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Maaay be a furfag, lol

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If you couldn't tell from the name and pfp

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And the ringtail suit, lol

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indeed

violet trout
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I present to thee: Danger Stick, my first ever "original" joker art

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that totally isn't just 2 open source emojis and some random bullshit

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gonna go to bed soon probably, still tryin to get thoughts on the poll

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Ohhh, okay.
Danger Stick (Uncommon):
Scoring a Flush of Ringtails will destroy 2 of the used cards and halve the current Blind size.

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how would smeared work with the suits

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Dating that they're their own suit colors

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And when only these suits are loaded, I plan to keep jokers that mention the original suits from spawning

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that's fair

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and wilds?

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There's probably sone way to make them only count suits in_pool

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I'll have to figure that out

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which poll

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violet trout
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The different theming is fine but kinda like flounder did, I prefer some connection to the original. Life I think is of his arrowhead ones was 'bullet tip' curious with whatever you come up with though. Tbh being different will help give the actual original stone jokers some more identity

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Look at the first post to see what o cave up with so far is you wanna give suggestions for others too

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And if you really wanna go nuts, I'm planning to go Flounders style for the new stone jokers too.

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For all 8 suits

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It's not a bad idea, Just not my personal play style

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Which tbh I can't make all the suits my thing

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fair

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what ideas do you have so far for jokers

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It's on the first post

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The 4 option will win

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When PRF is installed, the StupidSuits should be be default...

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Only spawn in standard packs with spectrals etc?

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Dammit

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Well I'll respect it as I said

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Definitely won't be how it is in my modpack though. I'll use yosbr to set different defaults like I already do with other mods

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Coonie, you can do the trick which use my """"""President(dictator)"""""""", steal the elections and do whatever you want XD (help me)

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Pfffft

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I'd say having some Decks/Sleeves that have the Dark/Light Suits replaced with the Furry (Paws+Ringtails)/Object (Poptabs + Homos) Suits will be nice.

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And here's some ideas I have for the Uncommon Suit Jokers, based off of weapon/dangerous objects, called Vandal Objects.

Danger Mask (Uncommon): Scored Ringtails will give you 1$ per 10% of Blind Score you achieve with the hand.
Claw Pounce (Uncommon): Scored Paws will reduce the current max Blind size by 4% (multiplicative).
Fizzy Bomb (Uncommon): Scored Poptabs will give +60 Chips and +16 Mult, but have a 1 in 3 chance to destroy the card afterwards (similar to Glass Cards).
Rainbow Brick (Uncommon): Scored Homos will have a 1 in 2 chance to trigger a random Shiny Stone/Vandal Object Joker effect. Can retrigger self if it gives Rainbow Brick again.
Fuzzy Joker (Uncommon): Ringtails and Paws count as the same suit. Poptabs and Homos count as the same suit.

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And here's not only the Suit Jokers, but also some obligatory Hero Fusions...only these will be themed based off of Bandits instead. >:)

Proud Joker (Common): Scored Homos give +8 Mult (more than usual, as these Suits are harder to achieve).
Furry Joker (Common): Scored Paws give +8 Mult.
Drunk Joker (Common): Scored Poptabs give +8 Mult.
Thieving Joker (Common): Scored Ringtails give +8 Mult.

Poptab Vagabond (Rare, or Drunk + Fizzy): Scored Poptabs give x1.33 Chips and Mult. 1 in 8 chance to destroy the scored card and give a random tag.
Homo Rebel (Rare, or Proud + Rainbow): Scored Homos will either trigger 2 random Shiny Stone/Vandal Object Joker effects, or 1 Suit Hero/Suit Bandit Fusion effect (at random). Will retrigger self if either Rainbow Brick or Homo Rebel is given.
Paw Fursuitter (Rare, or Furry + Claw): Scored Paws will reduce current Blind size by 5% (multiplicative). 1 in 2 chance to retrigger played Paws.
Ringtail Bandit (Rare, or Thieving + Danger): Scored Ringtails will give +$ depending on the current Blind payout. If there is no payout, then +2$. If you are in debt, then increase given money by x5.

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Only other l set left to come up with is the snow's style suit coins

violet trout
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Also you're totally getting coauthor credit @violet trout

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Thank ya. ❤️

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:3

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Updated art for Danger Stick. Re-positioned some things, added a border, and made the background look less like the bad German symbol

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violet trout
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how's it goin everyone?

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But im taking a rest for balatro

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(Im not leaving the game, just i stop for play like a week or 2)

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(Maybe i just play casual runs on my phone)

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(Or when i dont have electrity like rn)

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ah very fair

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Hope you have a relaxing time :#

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violet trout
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Just whichever ringtails one you wanna do first tbh

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And no worries :3

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My projects are never canceled. Keep that in mind. StupidSuits and the rest of my Fortune shall live in time