Can we please get some people to port this mod to SMOD 1.0.0?
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1216754656617693255
#JamMod + JamMod Expanded - Port of JellyMod to Steamodded 1.0 ALPHA
tidal venture
modest beacon
I'd be intrested in maybe working on this somewhat
maiden surge
I mean I could try and help with art, problem is though is the coding I think
The only problem is that I feel like some stuff (i.e familiar) conflicts with similar designs for Tarots and stuff 😛
that's really abt it
modest beacon
I mean we can just reuse the existing art
maiden surge
Isn't some AI art though
I know some of it originally was
and I don't think it got changed
tidal venture
#1219749193204371456 message
There's a whole mod that allows you to see the result after the hand is scored, making the Scouter Joker pointless.
I'm not usually an AI art kind of person, but if you are in a rush to get some concept art out before you switch to self-made, then I could understand.
maiden surge
Yeah I think most of the actual stuff beyond a few is AI art
maiden surge
you can see it here off the git repo
at this point you can just
kinda tell?
I've gotten good at telling it
tidal venture
Most of them I'm able to remember what they do.
modest beacon
yeah but jellymod was historically known to be very incompatible
maiden surge
Oh I mean
tidal venture
I'm well aware, but my memory comes in clutch at some surprising moments.
maiden surge
Tarlton is fucking insane
name = "Tarlton",
text = {
"Copies the effects of",
"all other {C:attention}Jokers{}",
"In your possession.",
"{C:inactive}(must be compatible){}"
},
},```a blueprint that hits multiple times
for like
each joker
latent heron
i checked the code before most jokers should be able to be ported
tidal venture
Tarlton is fucking insane
Don't get me started on that fucking thing.
modest beacon
truely a canvas moment
modest beacon
I mean it is a legendary
tidal venture
truely a canvas moment
THAT'S WHY I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN!
maiden surge
true
tidal venture
Canvas + Tarlton = hold onto your ass! 🤣
tidal venture
I'd say cut that.
modest beacon
it's really funny though
maiden surge
I feel like the only problem with looking at some of these cards I feel is the moment of redundancy too
like
Propaganosa has like
A familiar variant
and a ortalab variant
I think
modest beacon
I'd argue we just to recreate it as is
maiden surge
there's like 2 different jokers that do the exact same thing and it's like do we need a third
modest beacon
then maybe work on tweaking, removing or adding other stuff
maiden surge
I agree
modest beacon
so people have the optoin to just use jellymod
maiden surge
most of the art should be fine lowkey
as is to be used
beyond uhh
the ai art jonklers
modest beacon
the air art is probably fine too
but if someone wants to make better art I won't complain
tbh I know quite a bit about how steamodded works but actually haven't made a content mod before
maiden surge
I feel like personally it's scummy
that's just my opinion though on the matter
especially since it's caused problems and arguments already
tidal venture
you can see it here off the git repo
Oops! All 1s cuts all probabilities in half.
Copycat is randomized Blueprint/Brainstorm.
Edition eater removes editions and gains xMultiplier.
Pessimist sells to gain negative on a random joker, but you lose 2 hands permanently.
Prosopagnosia (the red frowning face) = anti-Pareidolia.
Kirby eats food joker to temporarily gains doubled effects for a single round.
Safari Joker = all cards are all suits at once.
Double Vision = all cards are considered 2s.
modest beacon
edition eater is just vampire then?
tidal venture
edition eater is just vampire then?
But on Jokers.
modest beacon
most of those don't seem too bad code wirse
tidal venture
Basically.
Tarlton is Blueprint but on everything at once, and that explains why it's fucking nuts.
maiden surge
esepcailly for something made for free
I mean that is fair, I just feel like it undercuts actual talent and I feel like it doesn't fit the Thunk artstyle either (which isn't a necessary hard requirement but if you have AI art with your other stuff it's just... kinda cringe)
tidal venture
Canvas is a re-trigger, not a copy effect.
maiden surge
I try to make stuff that's pretty close to the thunk artstyle
modest beacon
I mean that is fair, I just feel like it undercuts actual talent and I feel like...
sure but would anyone havbe actually made art for these jokers anyways?
tidal venture
sure but would anyone havbe actually made art for these jokers anyways?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
modest beacon
reading the files, scouter joker seems rough
unless we just used divvys score preview's library for it
maiden surge
sure but would anyone havbe actually made art for these jokers anyways?
At the time when it was a single dev?
probably not
But now we can do it
maiden surge
unless we just used divvys score preview's library for it
TBH I feel like at that point why not just.. use Divvy's Score Preview? It basically is the same effect except one is specifically tied to a joker
and Divvy's doesn't have proper calculations for mods and some vanilla + mods so it's like
idk
tidal venture
@halcyon kettle is the guy who made the Jelly mod, so we should start making some quick ground if co-operation is achieved.
modest beacon
Divvy does provide a method for mods to implement supprot
but I don't think its well documented or used much
fast zinc
Apparently, this was what was causing most people's games to break after a while.
maiden surge
I mean
you can do it much cleaner too at this point
Aura has a whole thing about animated textures
modest beacon
that is how animated textures are setup
although idk if this used the animated texture mechanism
maiden surge
This was made in like
modest beacon
The Buckleswasher seems kinda redundant now with the swashbuckler changes
maiden surge
Steamodded 0.7 or whatever
fast zinc
Also, I remember how some fella on the Jelly forum got pissy due to the AI art used, I tried to defuse it and say "who really cares", and it got pretty heated.
modest beacon
just it wasn't easy to use it on a card
fast zinc
The Buckleswasher seems kinda redundant now with the swashbuckler changes
Could be a chips-based version of modern Swash instead.
modest beacon
yeah
tidal venture
Could be a chips-based version of modern Swash instead.
I like that idea.
Make it 5x total sell value added to chips?
maiden surge
Also, I remember how some fella on the Jelly forum got pissy due to the AI art u...
Yeah cause you said some stupid shit admittedly about it Denver but beyond that
uh
modest beacon
how would Zeno's joker work with that one cryptid joker that draws the entire deck to hand?
maiden surge
I think it would proc it
right?
Balancing around cryptid shouldn't be a problem
like
or a concern I should say
modest beacon
it should proc but there wouldn't be a card to destory
maiden surge
Maybe it would just create the spectral
modest beacon
oh edition eater is like knife vampire
fast zinc
Honestly, overall, I would like to see this. Mainly because I had some ideas for Vouchers based off of the Reverse Enhancements, and would like to see those implemented.
maiden surge
It would nullify it out I feel
maiden surge
Honestly, overall, I would like to see this. Mainly because I had some ideas for...
hold your horses buster we gotta actually know
make it work first
modest beacon
Greedy pot would require a lovely patch but shoudn't be too bad I think
maiden surge
I feel like the first priority is the coding base
and then
the art
maybe do an art overhaul on some stuff
modest beacon
yeah I think most of the jokers shouldn't be too bad to implement
maiden surge
Inverse Tarots
maybe some inverse spectrals
😛
idk
I think uhhh
Would it be alright if I made a trello?
modest beacon
tbh I would rather use github issues for tracking stuff
it also has a trello like ui if you want
modest beacon
called github projects
modest beacon
I don't really need more categories
fast zinc
maybe do an art overhaul on some stuff
Some people shared art replacements for some of the AI-arted Jokers, so those will probably be good to implement.
modest beacon
either its done or it's not
quick chasm
especially since it's caused problems and arguments already
Gotta say arguing that AI art is a problem because it makes arguments is pretty funny and circular when well... it's your position that /is/ the drama
fast zinc
maybe some inverse spectrals
🫡
quick chasm
In your opinion
maiden surge
This is not the platform where we should be arguing about this I feel
quick chasm
I disagree, but I guess I have to agree that it's easier to just remove the issue
quick chasm
This is not the platform where we should be arguing about this I feel
Fair
maiden surge
remove it
modest beacon
I'd aruge its ethically fine cause it's not like were usoing ai art to replace real artists we're doing it to save us from havign to make sprites
modest beacon
if they're fine with us using them I don't see a problem
I'll setup a github repo for this and I can add some people to it
maiden surge
Here's the list
@stark zinc hey sorry for ping btw but when you see this - We're trying to port JellyMod to modern SMOD and we were wondering if we could use some of your art?
quick chasm
Also if this does happen, I'd appreciate a modular config. To be able to disable the new enhancements and the jokers related to them
maiden surge
It wouldn't be too terrible to do that I believe as well
maiden surge
JellyMod Jam sounds fun
or just JamMod
since it's multiple people jamming together idk
modest beacon
TBH JamMod does sound good
modest beacon
maiden surge
You think it might be better to have two branches?
One for like
"vanilla" JamMod and one for JamMod expanded
when the time comes
modest beacon
Yeha I think we just work on remaking Jellymod, then once done, we make a sperate branch to keep just the jellymod stuff and then we can expand on it
maiden surge
fast zinc
Mind if I can make the concepts for the "Reversed" Jokers for Expanded?
Cuz all of the Vanilla Enhancements have a Joker related to them, and I wanted to make stuff that makes the Reverse Enhancements more relevant.
Is there a Sheet yet for Expanded ideas?
modest beacon
No we've just started concept stuff
fast zinc
Alright, I'll have a sheet here for ideas/concepts then, like Betmma and some other mods does: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L5hJLuQiO1DStwDFO3vwwYeGO32owXz7fdpgzj3u1NM/edit?usp=sharing
fast zinc
I forgor what Greedy Pot does, is it similar to Pot of Jokes from Cryptid, or something else?
maiden surge
It's pot of Greed but the actual definition
every time you play or discard you always draw 2 more cards
restive quiver
I might try adding a few jokers if I have time today
tidal venture
IDK if you guys are accessing the github, but here it is in case someone doesn't.
https://github.com/jamesthejellyfish/JellyMod
fast zinc
every time you play or discard you always draw 2 more cards
Oh, so a positive Serpent Boss as a Joker, neat!
maiden surge
mhm
tidal venture
I don't think Pierrot is going to be necessary, right?
modest beacon
ok I'm done class so I'll look at programing a couple of the easier jokers
restive quiver
The one that makes everything 2s should be easy
You have permission to copy from my mod lol
modest beacon
okay thanks
speaking of copying I'm curious about licesing
Chances are we're going to rewrite most of the coede
so can we use our own licese?
The issue might be the images
restive quiver
At its core, it’s still James’s work
modest beacon
yeah
restive quiver
I think you should leave the license be
We can reevaluate later
modest beacon
rn I just put the jellymod license in there
also iirc MIT just lets me relicense it
as long as I leave the copywrite notice somewhere
oh also I'm definitly stealing the food joker list from cryptid
SMODS should definitly make a tag system for this kind of stuff
pjh actually math whats the best way to load localization files?
is it define it in each joker?
restive quiver
That or do a separate loc file
I’m transitioning to making a separate loc file now that I care about localization for Cryptid
Not really going to know how good of a system it is until I hear the localizers’ feedback
quick chasm
speaking of copying I'm curious about licesing
Tbh I don't know if smodded being gpl 3 actually makes jellymod's MIT license valid
Idk I'm probably talkin about nothin
modest beacon
I think it's okay since we aren't distributing smods?
althoguh it might make more sense to use the LGPL or a more permissive license for smods
maybe should bring that up in steamodded
quick chasm
I like gpl personally. AFAIK the only "benefit" to other licenses is allowing more commercial use, which isn't exactly desirable imo
modest beacon
I think the gpl is usually too strict for me
usually I use the MPL or some no restirction licese if I don't care about the code
quick chasm
I personally gravitate towards as close to public domain as possible the my works, I guess when it comes to software though I kinda like the gpl status quo, especially nice that it keeps derivatives open too. Kinda like CC-SA I guess
maiden surge
I think you kinda have a point
like
Using Steamodded makes it so that GPLv3 is on the mod by default
restive quiver
yep...
main reason why I haven't added a license to cryptid
halcyon kettle
oh hey! I'm glad to see that there is still interest in my mod! I probably won't be super active on here because I'm not super interested in the balatro modding scene and I was not planning on touching anything until the balatro update in 2025, but I just wanted to say that you guys have my full blessing (not that you need it lol), and I'll briefly mention these things here (although you probably already know/don't care):
- the code is bad!
Jellymod was made before I knew about ANY modloader at all, and was developed by injecting code directly into the decompiled lua code of Balatro. As such the entire thing is horribly cobbled together and I do not envy you guys who are trying to update it. When I was developing it I meant for it to be just a silly project that would be shared with maybe my friends, but I didn't really even plan to release it. TL;DR: the code is bad. Good luck. - The "AI art" thing
I've mentioned this a few times before, but since it came up in this chat I figured I'd put in my two cents. Again, when I initially made the mod I did not have plans to release it, so when I did release it and it was well-received I wanted to quickly release some new ideas I had while it was still fresh in people's minds. The ideas I had for art were beyond my meager capabilities, and as such I made them using AI art, which is what I usually do for silly personal projects that are just for me. In retrospect, I definitely should not have used AI art, and mainly did so because I was not treating the project with the reach or scope that it had. My perspective on AI art has shifted since I started this project, and I more-or-less agree with the people who have argued against its use. I wholeheartedly support it being replaced. TL;DR: AI art bad.
I think that's all I really wanted to say. I might occasionally pop in to give words of encouragement, but I probably won't be much of an active contributor.
modest beacon
yeah makes sense. I've been writing all the jokers from pretty much scratch, just referencing jelly mod when I need to
modest beacon
Does this joker need to display anything in joker display?
For reference diet cola shows nothing and invisible shows how many rounds it has/needs
fast zinc
Alright, I'll have a sheet here for ideas/concepts then, like Betmma and some ot...
I've added a bunch of new, Enhancement-based Joker ideas to the sheet, in case anyone wants to review them.
Also, @tardy junco, can you pin the suggestion/idea sheet for us? We'll also have a Github link soon (hopefully), so we'll let you know when to pin that.
quick chasm
you can see it here off the git repo
As for the art my only request is to keep the cat as is
He be vibin
quick chasm
Lol I know, just wanted to be sure to say :p
fast zinc
SPEAKING of the Blue-Cat though, the effect is honestly a bit weak, it can be due for a bit of a tune-up (even if it's just for the Expanded Edition).
fast zinc
Copycat (Uncommon).
Copies the effect of a random, applicable Joker each round. 1 in 9 chance to retrigger itself and that Joker when either is triggered.
fast zinc
Yeah I don't even know what he does ngl. I just like the art
Copies the effect of a random Joker you have each round, with the same checks as Blueprint.
fast zinc
And it's the same rarity as Blueprint as well. Maybe it could be Uncommon instead?
quick chasm
Yeah the uncontrollability definitely makes it warrant a more common rarity imo
tardy junco
Alright, I'll have a sheet here for ideas/concepts then, like Betmma and some ot...
I think I got the right one
fast zinc
I think I got the right one
Yup, thank ya. One day, I know you'll become a Golden Egg for your amazing service. 🫡
modest beacon
we have a github link #1286410784645058631 message
I've implemented 3 of the jokers now
fast zinc
https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/JamMod
Oop, okay.
@tardy junco Sorry to ping ya again, but as it turns out, we DO have a Github link. 😅
fast zinc
NOOOO, I have Stow!!!!1! 😭
quick chasm
NOOOO, I have Stow!!!!1! 😭
I now pronounce you debuffed
Rot in Balatro :p
RIB
I think amphetamine withdrawal might be affecting my mood, lol. Ran out of Adderall and I seem to be being an extra silly fuck today
maiden surge
Did a quick test
Double vision does not work with the wee joker
😭
(I think it should if it considers all cards as 2s, right?)
fast zinc
Double vision does not work with the wee joker
Gah damn, that should be priority #1 with a 2-rank-related Joker.
And it should, I don't think I used it before.
Even when I had the original JellyMod installed.
restive quiver
idk why it's a lovely patch, a hook like Cryptid's Maximized might work better
maiden surge
and it also should proc the wee
uhh
Pessimist works fine
Also prosopagnosia does not work with ride the bus
tidal venture
<@425062839250714634> can you change the thread name
Change it to what?
tidal venture
Got it.
maiden surge
JamMod + JamMod Expanded - Port of JellyMod to Steamodded 1.0 ALPHA
maiden surge
baller ty
tidal venture
oh hey! I'm glad to see that there is still interest in my mod! I probably won't...
Dude, Tarlton ALONE was the reason why I kept the JellyMod installed.
covert bane
september is the month of the 1.0.0 port it seems
fast zinc
Indeed it is. And I'm personally EXTREMELY excited for it. I hope that Codex can also get some work on it as well.
tidal venture
How's the progress going on this mod?
modest beacon
I've implemented three of the jokers and working on another rn
restive quiver
I want to try my hand at a few as well, just depends if I have time
modest beacon
Oh I was making one more time wrong and almost made it busted
maiden surge
Also prosopagnosia does not work with ride the bus
^
this is something that should probably be fixed
modest beacon
or the lovely patch failing
maiden surge
potentially
lemme check the folder
It should be working I have git cloned the folder
😛
lemme check the other patches
could this potentially override the lovely toml if it's loaded after rather then before Familiar
modest beacon
the lovely patches the source so it's always loaded first
it seems to be calling the ref so it should work unless it's ignoreing the value\
maiden surge
It also could be because in this there are 2 propaganosa jokers 🤔
maiden surge
it doesn't use the ref propelry
ohhhhhh ok
modest beacon
local is_faceref = Card.is_face
function Card:is_face(from_boss)
local ref=is_faceref(self)
if self.debuff and not from_boss then return end
local id = self:get_id()
for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
if G.jokers.cards[i].ability.name == "j_fam_prosopagnosia" then
return false
end
end
if id == 11 or id == 12 or id == 13 or next(find_joker("Pareidolia")) then
return true
end
return ref
end```here is it's function
so if theres a king
it runs ref and gets false
then it checks and there's no debuff so we don't care
then it gets the id
does it prsopagbosia cgheck
then it checks if its a jack, queen or king or has pereidolia and if so it says it is a face
since it was a king it returnes true
else it returns out value
so it should just remove that check
maiden surge
🤔
strange
I don't know why the Wee Joker isn't proccing on Double Vision tho
that's the other issue I have found
modest beacon
I have to go rn so I'll check alter
maiden surge
if next(find_joker("j_jammod_double_vision")) then
return 2
end```
Cause this in theory should return a 2but it may not be getting picked up by context.other_card:get_id() == 2? I think?
modest beacon
can you do anoither grep for the get_id just to make sure it's not overriten again?
maiden surge
only other mod that uses the card:get_id is cryptid
at least in that specific function
I can try checking just CARD:get_id
modest beacon
do you get 5 of a kinds with it?
just pushed one more time, it's not quite done, but I gtg
modest beacon
yeah something is wrong then
tidal venture
How are things looking for this?
modest beacon
Uhh 3.7 jokers done
maiden surge
3.14159
latent heron
26535897932384626433
tidal venture
Don't try me.
3.141592653 5897932384 6264338327 9502884197 1693993751 0582097494 4592307816 4062862089 9862803482 5342117067 9821480865 13...
My memory must be slipping....
tidal venture
Uhh 3.7 jokers done
Just checking in. 😁
modest beacon
Does someone have a list of all the art to use vs what needs to be redone still?
fast zinc
Uhh, hold on.
fast zinc
Does someone have a list of all the art to use vs what needs to be redone still?
Basically all of these Jokers here, that was added in the newest version, need to be redone (due to AI art).
Plus, I think a few of the others were updated to have them for whatever reason, so you'll likely have to look through those.
tidal venture
There is also Pessimist, Tarlton, and Pierrot.
Tarlton seems easy to code since it's just Blueprint, but on everything at once.
fast zinc
There is also Pessimist, Tarlton, and Pierrot.
Oh, I thought they meant those that had to have redone art, not ones that needed to be redone code-wise.
tidal venture
Oh, I thought they meant those that had to have redone art, not ones that needed...
For Pessimist, I think a tragedy mask on a dark background should do the trick.
fast zinc
👍 And that already has a bit of influence from Buskin, so it could probably be reworked with that art. Also, some of the Jokers will likely need to be reworked effect-wise.
tidal venture
👍 And that already has a bit of influence from Buskin, so it could probably be ...
Which ones?
Tarlton better not be one of them.
maiden surge
idek how tarlton would work with modern steamodded code imma be real (i might also be stupid)
fast zinc
# Tarlton better not be one of them.
Don't worry, I'm happy the Legends being fun and powerful (would fit right in with my Cryptid list). I'm talking about some of the other Jokers, as some definitely need a tune-up.
Lemme see if I can devise some for Jokers that need it more.
tidal venture
idek how tarlton would work with modern steamodded code imma be real (i might al...
I'd think it'd be similar to Blueprint.
maiden surge
Well
like
you're gonna have to store every single value for it unlike blueprint and if you have like several dozen jokers that's just complicated
it's better if it would be reworked to use the retrigger API
to just retrigger the effect
🤔
tidal venture
Retriggers don't stack multiplicatively.
maiden surge
Copies the effects of all other Jokers in your possession
quick chasm
Copies the effects of all other Jokers in your possession
yes I can read
sorry that was rude
maiden surge
I never played Jellymod enough to know otherwise ¯_(ツ)_/¯
it just sounds like something that could just be "retrigger each joker once"
Because I particulary cba to figure out how it works with Steamodded and installing an ancient version to figure that out
tidal venture
I don't mod, so I'm probably talking out of my ass.
quick chasm
is there even actually a functional difference between blueprinting a joker and retriggering it? I can't see how the score would be changed differently
maiden surge
IMO, no
because literally blueprinting a joker is just retriggering the effect without the scaling benefits or otherwise
in fact retriggering could even be better in some cases because that means when it updates (such as like, Red Card) it'll do it twice
And it would on stuff like SIxth Sense or other cards, I think the only one that it doesn't work on is the Golden Joker and other econ related ones
quick chasm
in fact retriggering could even be *better* in some cases because that means whe...
which might make it a bit strong for a legenday tbh
maybe not
maiden surge
If it's only once it isn't terrible
tidal venture
in fact retriggering could even be *better* in some cases because that means whe...
Would you rather have 5 re-triggers and 1 copy or 3 re-triggers and 3 copies?
IMO, I'm going with the latter because math.
maiden surge
TBH 5 retriggers 
Cryptid has taught me very fast that retriggers are just.. better
especially with the new API
again scaling jokers benefit heavily from a retrigger effect compared to blueprint
tidal venture
Just go with the copy effect and see where it goes.
quick chasm
maybe not
I mean who am I to talk, I use can't pass up logisitics even those it's only a rare and a free tiket to e club
tidal venture
I'll ask the man himself.
@halcyon kettle, do you remember how the Tarlton joker worked? Was it a re-trigger or a copy effect like Blueprint/Brainstorm?
quick chasm
I mean who am I to talk, I use can't pass up logisitics even those it's only a r...
Logistics makes all joker values that trigger on a hand trigger on each card as well
it's almost as stupidly broken as Actually Square ngl
(From Snoresville and BBBalatro respectively)
maiden surge
and that's all just retriggers again, it's gonna be inherently better then a copy effect, even Chad from Cryptid is just a retrigger and not a direct copy
like idk how you can value a blueprint effect over a retrigger unless it's a specific use case like not wanting your gros michel to go extinct
halcyon kettle
I'll ask the man himself.
<@470783597540802561>, do you remember how the Tarlton...
It should be a copy effect. If I remember correctly the code is basically blueprint's code but for every joker instead of just a single one.
tidal venture
^^There you go. You heard it from the OG.
quick chasm
and that's all just retriggers again, it's gonna be inherently better then a cop...
actually Logistics might be a copy effect the description is "Gives the sum of all after hand bonuses to each card or smth"
quick chasm
but it does definitaly make the jokers wiggle, so it's doing something with them
maiden surge
yeah I don't definitely agree with like the tarlton effect being a blueprint effect but that just may be the revisionist within me because like, you don't need to do it like a blueprint to make it effective.
It'd be more effective if it wasn't a blueprint copy
quick chasm
It should be a copy effect. If I remember correctly the code is basically bluepr...
I see no reason not to do this if it's supposed to be a straight port, it doesn't seem hard to code
and being slightly weaker isn't a good reason imo, it's already plenty strong for a legendary
tidal venture
yeah I don't definitely agree with like the tarlton effect being a blueprint eff...
That seems like the revisionist with you.
maiden surge
I guess I'll have to see how it works because again
never really played JellyMod enough to know because by the time I got around to it, unfortunately it was too broken to properly work
fast zinc
Scouter Joker (Common): Displays what your score will be after playing a hand, including most bonuses. If your score is over 9000x the requirement, destroy this Joker and create Venali.
Venali (new Legendary, and name combo of Vegeta and Tenali, an Indian Jester): Carry over unused Hands/Discards to the next round. Resets after each Ante.
Fractal Flake (replacement for Special Snowflake, due to the name maybe being offensive): Gains 0.1x Mult for each unique card you have in your deck (Heart King, Steel Heart King, Red Sealed Steel Heart King, etc.)
Collector Folder (rename of The Collector, to not confuse it with the Rare Hand-type Jokers): Gains 1.0x Mult whenever you acquire a non-Base Edition Joker. Reduces by 0.25x if you get a base edition Joker.
Copycat (now Uncommon instead of Rare): Copies the random effect of a Joker you have each round. For each Lucky Card proc you have this round, copy another one.
Greener Pastures (now Rare): Creates a random Negative Eternal Joker upon starting a round. The generated Joker is destroyed if the round ends, or selling this Joker.
One More Time (now Uncommon): Whenever a Joker is sold, add your previous hand's score to the current score. 25% of current Blind max if any other Joker, but no cap if it's this Joker.
Pessimist: After 5 negative effects happen to you, apply Negative to a random Joker you have (can override non-Negative editions), and -1 Hand permanently.
Lipographic Jokr (now Rare): 1.25x Chips per scored card. Reduces by 0.125x per "e" in the scored card (minimum of 1.0x).
Buckleswasher (now Common): Adds 3x the sell value of all Jokers to Chips.
Mad Hatter (now Rare): Shuffles the Edition/Enhancements/Seals of all scored cards, then add modifications to cards that don't have them already.
quick chasm
**Scouter Joker (Common):** *Displays what your score will be after playing a ha...
these are good ideas. I mean... iirc there's supposed to be a reimagining as well as a straight port, but ngl I never played witgh jellymod so I don't have any nostalgia for the originals
tidal venture
If you really think about it, copy effects are actually slightly faster in terms of time than re-triggers because the copy effects stacked with multiples of the same joker.
2 Barons + 1 Tarlton:
Barons give x1.5 Mult each, but Tarlton combined those effects into a x2.25 Mult instead of re-triggering.
quick chasm
these are good ideas. I mean... iirc there's supposed to be a reimagining as wel...
Yes, I know this is kinda a 180, I just was being a bit pedantic about tarlton
I also remembered that a revamped reimagining is a much better idea than a straight port at this point
I just wanna play with cool jokers
quick chasm
I also remembered that a revamped reimagining is a much better idea than a strai...
(but maybe it wouldn't be too hard to do both?)
for those who want that
Also I feel like 'special snowflake' is only offensive if you take it that way. It could easily be almost something of reclaimation
tidal venture
(but maybe it wouldn't be too hard to do both?)
Tarlton and Boredom are essentially the same thing, just done two different ways.
However, Boredom also re-triggers cards. So......
quick chasm
Tarlton and Boredom are essentially the same thing, just done two different ways...
I meant both versions of the mod
coding joker effects that already exist and just making a static minimum viable product port shouldn't be tooo much extra work
iirc something like that was the original idea
hence the title being JamMod + JamMod Expanded
modest beacon
I might make the mod depend on talisman
fast zinc
Safari Joker: All cards now count as the same suit, act as the same suit, and suit-debuffing Blinds cannot debuff them.
Lancer Joker (replacement of Zeno's Joker since I have no clue who that is, and due to the art): If 50% or more of your deck is drawn in a blind, destroy a random card and create a random Spectral.
Wise Penny: If you spend less than 10$ in a shop, 2 random non-sealed cards will get a Gold Seal.
Furnace (now Uncommon): Coal Cards upgrade twice instead of once, and have a 1 in 3 chance to retrigger.
||Clock|| Fridge (now Rare): Any Joker that has a chance to destroy/extinct/downgrade itself will no longer do so, and Perishable Jokers cannot tick down.
Krampus: Adds a Coal Card to hand upon starting a round, that starts with inversed (positive) stats instead of negative.
Edition Eater (now Uncommon): Will eat the Edition of the Joker to the right of it upon scoring a hand, gaining xMult depending on the Edition. (starts at 1x Mult, Foil = 0.33x, Holo = 0.66x, and Poly = 1x. Negative cannot be eaten, because why would you do that?)
Magnate: Cards that you find (Standard Packs and MT/Illusion) are much more likely to be your highest Rank, Suit, and Enhancement.
Kirby (why was it named so ambiguously? Also now Rare): Eats any destroyable/extinct-able/downgradable/Perishable Jokers to the right of this one upon starting a round, and copies half (above positive) of its effect permanently.
Caviar: Gain 4$ per hand played, degrades by 1$ per discard used.
Chef Joker (now Rare): Spends 3$ at start of round to create a random "Food" Joker. If you have no space, -15$ and make a Negative one instead.
Astral Brownie (replaces 2-Bite Brownie, and Rare): Retriggers all played cards x times, with x being the hand's level. Destroys itself upon retriggering more than one hand's worth of cards per round.
Mineral Miner (replaces Mineral Deposit): Destroys scored Stone/Coal/Steel/Brass/Gold/Fool's Gold Cards, and gain $ depending on what you destroyed (Stone = 2$, Coal = 4$, Steel = 4$, Brass = 8$, Gold = x1.1 your current $, and Fool's Gold will either give +25 or -25$).
Glutton Joker: Gains 0.5x Chips for every destroyed/debuffed/extincted Joker this game (starts at 1.0x).
fast zinc
hence the title being JamMod + JamMod Expanded
That's the plan, with JamMod being more of a direct port with minimal changes (maybe a few as seen fit, but not to an excessive degree), and Expanded being where the real reworks and new Jokers can come in.
These ideas are mainly for that reworked version.
modest beacon
yeah probably
I might have to rework some base stuff due to technical reasons
idk if I can even get scouter working in a reasonable way
oh also I'm not actually sure which jokers have which sprites for all of them due to the fact I never played jellymod
tidal venture
oh also I'm not actually sure which jokers have which sprites for all of them du...
I might be able to tell some of them just on sight/memory alone.
fast zinc
modest beacon
I can guess quite a few
fast zinc
That's the raw file, I believe for the 2x.
modest beacon
yeah that one is 2x
tidal venture
I'll crop it.
tidal venture
Oh. Thanks.
maiden surge
I swore I sent a somewhat updated Greedy Bot
fast zinc
Also I feel like 'special snowflake' is only offensive if you take it that way. ...
I know, but I usually find it better to be safe than sorry with stuff like this.
maiden surge
^
modest beacon
I don't see anything wrong with the name special snowflake
maiden surge
I mean tbh I don't either
it's just the wording of it being misconstrued
Like this isn't (I think) supposed to be a commentary
on anything
fast zinc
I don't see anything wrong with the name special snowflake
|| It's an insult that conservative people usually like to use for progressive/liberal people. Can confirm due to my mom watching way too much Alex Jones. ||
maiden surge
i'ts not being used as an insult
^ again the commentary isn't being used in that matter it shouldn't be an issue
quick chasm
I don't have an issue with the original name, but I also kinda also think Denver's name is cooler
fast zinc
Alright then, just making sure, as I know some people that might take an issue with it. Plus, Fractals never repeat, just like unique snowflakes, so a Fractal Flake will do just as well.
tidal venture
Brownie, (don't know the next 2), Wise Penny, Furnace, Fridge, Krampus, Edition Eater, (I know the effect but not the name), Greedy Pot, Pink Menace [aka Kirby], Chef, Caviar, Copycat, Tarlton, Lipographic Jokr, Oops! All 1s, Safari, Pierrot, Pessimist, Prosopagnosia, Double Vision, Scouter Joker, Zeno's Joker (this is a reference to Zeno's paradox [1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 + ...]), One More Time, (I know the effect but not the name), Buckleswasher, Mad Hatter (?), Greener Pastures, Snowflake.
modest beacon
are all the ones I highlighted here the ones we need new sprites for?
wasn't sure on a few
maiden surge
Greedy Pot already has a remade sprite but yeah that's one of em
I'm working on chef rn
got a fun idea for it
fast zinc
are all the ones I highlighted here the ones we need new sprites for?
Glutton, Penny, Furnace, Fridge, Krampus, Zeno, and Greener also need new art.
modest beacon
which ojne is zeno?
quick chasm
if the some of them have art replaced with AI, make sure to check the older atlases
tidal venture
which ojne is zeno?
Bottom-left corner.
fast zinc
The one with the Cavalry and turtle.
fast zinc
Yes. Also, One More Time needs the Joker text, even if it's technically fine.
modest beacon
ok I'll yoink those from the sheet
tidal venture
What are these for, anyway? You keeping track of which ones you've done, or ones that you have the ideas for?
modest beacon
no the red ones need new sprites
tidal venture
Got it.
tidal venture
I don't know what the name of the Joker between Edition Eater and Greedy Pot is; however, I know the effect:
Cards from standard packs are limited to the cards you already have.
modest beacon
Greedy Pot already has a remade sprite but yeah that's one of em
do you have this by chance?
fast zinc
I don't know what the name of the Joker between Edition Eater and Greedy Pot is;...
Magnate.
maiden surge
[here brother ](#1286410784645058631 message)
modest beacon
ok thanks
modest beacon
spritesheet for now
quick chasm
https://github.com/Cr4zZyBipBiip/JellyMod/blob/0.1.7/assets/1x/Jokers_JellyMod.p...
though the spirally one looks like it might alreeady be AI
saying as those are... not our universe's card suits
tidal venture
though the spirally one looks like it might alreeady be AI
Now that you say that, it's gotta be AI.
Hearts suits are red in color, not black.
quick chasm
I'm not even anti AI and yeah... it looks bad
though it might be good to inspire the new art
modest beacon
yay sprites
quick chasm
so yeah the only ones here that are super useable are the green pixel noise and the green joker recolor
quick chasm
yay sprites
and tha'ts just Hasty
modest beacon
maybe I should write the name of the card on each placeholder sprite so I don't forget which is where
guess it doesn't really matter
tidal venture
Which Jokers have been coded already?
Let's at least get that done, first.
We can hold off on art for a bit.
maiden surge
let's play a game, guess the reference
quick chasm
spritesheet for now
y know I just realized that CopyCat is one of the only ones that isn't obvious placeholder art
and it actually looks really good
tidal venture
wip is pessismts
Use a skull and crossbones.
modest beacon
there
tidal venture
y know I just realized that CopyCat is one of the only ones that isn't obvious p...
Copycat should retain its art.
quick chasm
y know I just realized that CopyCat is one of the only ones that isn't obvious p...
not that joker designs being modified vannila art makes them "placeholder"
that's a bit harsh, and untrue
it's apprioate depending on the effect
quick chasm
Copycat should retain its art.
100%
modest beacon
tbh I;m finwe with most of the remianing art
quick chasm
as should most of them that already have passable art tbh. Like... as long as using modified original game art makes sense
tidal venture
the 4 shown above
Which one(s) can you code quickly?
modest beacon
I'm working on them as I go
its hard to tell
some seem hard and are easy and some are easy and seem hard
like one more time took me like 2 afternoons and I thought it would be easy
quick chasm
spritesheet for now
the upthe ones here that I don't think should be permenent are "literally just hasty joker" and the upside-down swash could be confusing without more modification
tidal venture
some seem hard and are easy and some are easy and seem hard
You're saying the same thing twice....
modest beacon
sorry you know what I meant
tidal venture
sorry you know what I meant
I'm a grammar freak, despite being a hardcore math nerd.
modest beacon
the upthe ones here that I don't think should be permenent are "literally just h...
tbh I might consider gettign rid of the upside down swashbukler cause its effect is kinda redudant now
modest beacon
tbh I might consider gettign rid of the upside down swashbukler cause its effect...
at least it's going to be reworked
fast zinc
tbh I might consider gettign rid of the upside down swashbukler cause its effect...
Having it being SB but for Chips could be better.
quick chasm
like... 100% thought it was a base game joker
(It gives $8 if you win on your first hand)
modest beacon
Having it being SB but for Chips could be better.
yeah maybe
could give it a bluer design then
tidal venture
at least it's going to be reworked
You could probably code that one quickly.
Find the code for the Swashbuckler in the base game.
modest beacon
yeah
I mgiht do pierrot next
cause people seem to want t h at one
before I go closing my editor do we have any more art to stick in as of right niow
quick chasm
before I go closing my editor do we have any more art to stick in as of right ni...
the green pixel noise is usable
if you didn't grab that
quick chasm
the green pixel noise is usable
though I guess AI /could/ generate it, but so could a simple algorithm
Schrodinger's AI
modest beacon
the green pixel noise is usable
ok grabbed
modest beacon
5-10 mins I'll have Chef joker done
okay I'll live gimp open
maiden surge
Should still be 71x95 for og image
at least dimension wise
hopefully
if not I can save a quick png
here's a hq version so you can see the gros michel and the
egg
fast zinc
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153815324643299458/1288724242501865523...
Oh, is that the 2-Bite Brownie there as well?
maiden surge
Yup
fast zinc
Really well done. 👍
maiden surge
2 bite brownie, egg, and gros michel
tidal venture
okay I'll live gimp open
Got the code for the Tarlton Joker:
local other_joker = nil
local final_ret = nil
for i=1,#G.jokers.cards do
other_joker = G.jokers.cards[i]
if other_joker and other_joker.ability.name ~= self.ability.name and other_joker.config.center.blueprint_compat then
context.blueprint_card = context.blueprint_card or self
context.blueprint = 1
local other_joker_ret = other_joker:calculate_joker(context)
if final_ret == nil and other_joker_ret ~= nil then
final_ret = other_joker_ret
final_ret.card = context.blueprint_card or self
final_ret.colour = G.C.RED
elseif other_joker_ret then
for k, val in pairs(other_joker_ret) do
if not final_ret[k] then
final_ret[k] = val
end
if final_ret[k] and k == "x_mult" then
final_ret[k] = final_ret[k] * val
end
if final_ret[k] and k == "mult" then
final_ret[k] = final_ret[k] + val
end
if final_ret[k] and k == "chips" then
final_ret[k] = final_ret[k] + val
end
if final_ret[k] and k == "dollars" then
final_ret[k] = final_ret[k] + val
end
if final_ret[k] and k == "repetitions" then
final_ret[k] = final_ret[k] + val
end
if final_ret[k] and k == "message" then
final_ret[k] = final_ret[k] .. " " .. val
end
end
end
end
end
if final_ret then
return final_ret
end
end```@modest beaconI have the JellyMod Source code
fast zinc
👓 Wtf is this...
modest beacon
wonder how it'll turn out witjh its shape
Seems good
maiden surge
beautiful
tidal venture
I have the JellyMod Source code
Didn't realize that. I'm stupid (for lack of a more blunt word). 🤣
modest beacon
I mean I haven't played it so it would be hard for me to figure out each joker's effect without it
tidal venture
I mean I haven't played it so it would be hard for me to figure out each joker's...
Fair enough.
I could probably help since I've played the shit out of it before.
modest beacon
tbh it would be nice to have a vc to chill in
modest beacon
the cryptid seerver has one
tidal venture
tbh it would be nice to have a vc to chill in
Now, I'm tempted to ping localthunk to get that.
modest beacon
iirc there was discussion before and the result was it was too hard to moderate
fast zinc
Now, I'm tempted to ping localthunk to get that.
It won't work, sorry. You'll have to DM one of the mods instead, if that's even possible.
maiden surge
Exactly
It's too hard to moderate VCs in this big of a server
with thousands of peeps in it
modest beacon
if you want to join me I'll go stream in the cryptid server
fast zinc
Okay, that was too loud, sorry. 😓
modest beacon
These 2 are now implemented
modest beacon
Merry birthmas I made another
tidal venture
I'm testing Canvas + Tarlton. It is working very oddly. To execute the combo, you have to put Tarlton to the right of Canvas for some reason.
quick chasm
residual blueprint logic it seems, lol
tidal venture
residual blueprint logic it seems, lol
Blueprint works on Canvas just fine, but it's actually better to get a second Canvas because math.
quick chasm
well the way it worked before was just using blueprint style logic we've figured out
tidal venture
Yep.
quick chasm
which is why I was assuming something caried over to make the positioning thing happen
tidal venture
Just what the fuck is that, though?
tidal venture
It probably combines the effects of whatever's to the left of Canvas with all the re-triggers that Canvas gives, which is unironically the outcome I was hoping for. Just didn't expect the execution of that idea to be the mirror-reverse of what I was thinking.
modest beacon
Yeah I was messing with that myself
It seems it ignores the retirggers on itself but will trigger anything retriggered multiple times
modest beacon
Brownie done
modest beacon
New joker (and first reworked one)
quick chasm
New joker (and first reworked one)
wait I just looked at the old description. How was it even different than swash?
modest beacon
it went from the right instead of left
quick chasm
oh,so it was just flat better than old swash
quick chasm
New joker (and first reworked one)
tbh this is a weak uncommon
modest beacon
also while in the vc I got a good idea to rework scouter
make it so on sell undo last played hand (minus score and add back a hand)
quick chasm
it maxes out at x2 at most in almost all cercumstances and has to be placed suboptimally
quick chasm
x0.1x per dollar or 2 dollars of sale value might be butter
quick chasm
most x mults are not common
you still have it as uncommon
modest beacon
I know
quick chasm
x0.1x per dollar or 2 dollars of sale value might be butter
and it'd fit more with the reverse swash thing
this is more like reverse abstract
modest beacon
oh I'm stupid that is how it works I just worded it wrong
it gives 0.1 xmult per sell value of each joker to right
modest beacon
yeah I reworked the description a bit and must've deleted the important part
is that better?
quick chasm
"for the" should maybe be "per $1 of"
I understand it either way, just seems to fit more with the style of the other descriptions that way
quick chasm
hmm, I think the difference is it's inherently clear it's talking about adding integers
modest beacon
yeah
modest beacon
I guess that seems fine
modest beacon
yeah but here's how it works for visual reference
quick chasm
exactky how I interpreted it
modest beacon
ok good
tidal venture
Might want to change it so that it counts all jokers, not just the ones to its right.
modest beacon
I figured that would be too strong and also this fits closer to the original buckleswasher
quick chasm
Thoughts on this?
not bad. and tbh more useful than the original
if you're run's bricked it's bricked, lol
most of the time at least
it doesn't really change that aspect, but it has uses still
modest beacon
Yeah
I mean it does allow you to scale your jokers one more hand and also dig for cards
also I did Pierrot
I like how it turned ouyt
has a unique and intresitng effect
quick chasm
I mean it does allow you to scale your jokers one more hand and also dig for car...
very true
limber token
Make it break if you score more than 9000 chips 
quick chasm
pfft
shane 9000 is such a low number in balatro or else I'd more seriously suggest having it turn into a better joker or something
covert bane
Thoughts on this?
honestly this is a much better design than the previous one
the original scouter was just kind of boring and didn't serve any practical use
fast zinc
Maybe it could be the last played action as well, so if you accidentally do a discard or sell that you didn't want to do, you can reverse it.
modest beacon
That's a bit messier
This doesn't even undo everything now
Just reverts score and gives you a hand
But everything else goes so you scale stuff, use it to discard hands etc.
glacial hollow
iirc yes, that is exactly how it used to work and yes, it's just as powerful as you think
I know you didnt do it in your example but Im pretty sure it works with the 'seeing double' joker aswell, yk the x2 mult if hand contains 1 club and 1 non-club
I think the only jokers that didnt work too well were the coal-related ones, can't wait to see how you take that card enhancement though :D
quick chasm
seems a bit powerful
I've used other jokers that do that
it's fine imo
at least in the mod space
rare is the right rarity though for sure
covert bane
i'm assuming the jokerdispay for flowerpot was just lagging
quick chasm
hanging where?
or is it played hand and not poker hand/scored hand?
because it didn't go 3x until he has a valid poker hand with all the suits
yeah that looked correct
or do you mean the "all suits" part of it. that just doesn't seem functional tbh
modest beacon
Oh yeah that is actually a valid flower pot hand
I just clicked cards but I'll make sure it works normally
Oh wait no it isn't
Its missing a spade
However, I believe it should just behave like every card is a wild card
quick chasm
However, I believe it should just behave like every card is a wild card
Exactly. Which means all cards are all suits
For the purposes of flower pot too
quick chasm
how's this coming along?
fast zinc
Honestly, not sure, lemme see.
@modest beacon @tidal venture @maiden surge
tidal venture
Honestly, not sure, lemme see.
<@517371142508380170> <@425062839250714634> <@25...
Yo.
modest beacon
The last status update I posted was the last status update
tidal venture
The last status update I posted was the last status update
Question dodged. Try again.
modest beacon
I have not done anything since my last post
modest beacon
There joker
modest beacon
The pattern really hides the holo one, lol
Looks good with polychrome
modest beacon
oh yeah I forgot to copy the raritly and cost again
modest beacon
I did an art (it looks bad)
alos I just realized that is the wrong negative description
quick chasm
It looks good tbh. Maybe slightly generic, but good
modest beacon
There fixed the description
quick chasm
It's like super shitty negatron don, lol
The Negatron Don we have at home you could say
limber token
Negative should be capitalized
modest beacon
you are correct
quick chasm
If you don't know the joker I'm talking about
modest beacon
lmao that is pretty much better in every way
Although I feel pessimist is a bit more vanilla
The game is extremly careful with negatives
quick chasm
Yeah Ol Don isn't the most balanced
Though think you're would be okay as an uncommon
And Don really should be a rare, lol
modest beacon
yeah maybe
quick chasm
I think the devs of spicy jokers died or something though /j
modest beacon
I'll worry about balence mroe when everything is implemented and owrking together
quick chasm
I'll worry about balence mroe when everything is implemented and owrking togethe...
Very fair
modest beacon
I might make pessimist -1 instead
it's curently more harsh than black deck despite not being a perminate buff the negative
quick chasm
I might make pessimist -1 instead
Still better than ectoplasm, lol
I'd rather lose a hand than a hand size any day
But yeah that's not too bad imo
Still will have a funny inverse rarities effect with Negatron, but that's outside your control
shut anvil
Thoughts on this?
How type in console/debugg to send comands? I forget
shut anvil
ok
modest beacon
Thoughts on this being blueprintable?
fast zinc
Thoughts on this being blueprintable?
Should be fine, if the copies Negatives disappear the same.
modest beacon
riff raff is compativle so this should be fine
quick chasm
Quick question, how many jokers are currently implemented?
modest beacon
There's almost a collextipn page
One is half implemented
I didn't share that one yet
modest beacon
We have a page of jokers implemented now
This one took me longer than I expected
but it has some nice features in it
the spawned joker has a tooltip and also the sell cost should always be enforced
and jokers with on blind sleected abilities work
very proud of it
tawny cedar
nice
modest beacon
Of course once I finish it and put my laptop away then I think of more things to check
Imma just put this here for myself, check if it works while getting skiced and check if I can copy a created jokee
fast zinc
Wait, is there a release? Cuz GayCoonie added this mod to their modpack, apparently.
limber token
You can download from code
fast zinc
Ah, okay.
quick chasm
@modest beacon do you think maybe when you do the enhancements you could change them so the ratio of held-in-hand effects is the same as the base game? So only 2 being held in hand? Maybe as an optional thing if others want them as they are
modest beacon
I'll see
I actually don't know anything about the engagements but I'll try to keep them balanced
quick chasm
I just personally don't like so many held in hand effects, which most are
rare pagoda
of 8 enhancements 4 are in hand effects
quick chasm
Yeah, that's 2 more than the base game
rare pagoda
I could see having the hand bonus/hand mult ones and making the others possibly have different effects depening on held or play
modest beacon
Made a list of jokers and their status's
Tarlton - Implemented
Pierrot - Implemented
Prosopagnosia - Implemented
Double Vision - Implemented
Scouter Joker - Reworked
Special Snowflake - Implemented
The Collector - Implemented
Copycat - Not yet implemented
Greener Pastures - Implemented
One More Time! - Implemented
Pessimist - Implemented (buffed)
Lipographic Jokr - Not yet implemented
Buckleswasher - Reworked
Mad Hatter - Implemented
Safari Joker - Implemented - Missing artwork
Oops! All 1s - Implemented
Greedy Pot - Implemented
Mineral Deposit - Implemented - Missing artwork
Two-Bite Brownie - Implemented - Missing artwork
Edition Eater - Implemented (tweaked values) - Missing artwork
Zeno's Joker - Not yet implemented - Missing artwork
Wise Penny - Not yet implemented - Missing artwork
Furnace - Not yet implemented (on hold until enhancements) - Missing artwork
Fridge - Not yet implemented (on hold until Steamodded #265, potential rework) - Missing artwork
Krampus - Not yet implemented (on hold until enhancements) - Missing artwork
Magnate - Not yet implemented - Missing artwork
The Pink Menace - Not yet implemented (on hold until Steamodded #265) - Missing artwork
Caviar - Not yet implemented - Missing artwork
Chef Joker - Not yet implemented (on hold until Steamodded #265)
Glutton Joker - Not yet implemented (on hold until Steamodded #265) - Missing artwork
Bad Apple Joker - Not sure if I will implement this one. It pretty much already was seperate from JellyMod, and seems more like a tech demo than a standard modded joker. Maybe would make sense to make a new mod for porting it
mighty pasture
im trying to play this mod but im gettging this error
modest beacon
Thats coming from jellymod not JamMod
JellyMod isn't designd for 1.0.0 and chances are will break
mighty pasture
oh, where do i download jam mod
quick chasm
https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/JamMod
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quick chasm
oh, where do i download jam mod
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mighty pasture
oh cool thanks
quick chasm
Np :3
mighty pasture
ok so im wathcing this video that isaw some of the stuff from this mod from and this challenge deck doesnt have these reverse cards in my game
idek if it has the reverse cards at all
he also has these wooden cards my deck starts with all glass cards and not just the face cards being glass
is jellymod the one that has the reverse ones?
modest beacon
yeah I haven't got around to implementing those yet
quick chasm
he also has these wooden cards my deck starts with all glass cards and not just ...
there's also elbe's fork of JellyMod, which does seem to mostly work fine on 1.0
and is even made to be installed alongside JamMod
mighty pasture
ty ive been trying to figure this out all day 😭L
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Mad hatter
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Mad hatter
NICE, that looks cool.
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Thread Necromancy, ACTIVATE!!!
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No updates since last post
fast zinc
No updates since last post
👍
modest beacon
Working on edition eat (reworking it a bit) and not sure if i should keep that last line or not
Vanilla does let you get more jokers than you have room for with invisible
modest beacon
Edition eater done
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fallow flame
Thread Necromancy, ACTIVATE!!!
I lend you my strength!
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Greener pastures spawned jokers now lose their effect if copied
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Also I'll see about getting greener pastjees to do its card stuff at end of round instead of blind selected. Will cause it to be slower to get up bit will allow spawned jokers to be able to scale more often
azure silo
would any of Jelly's old lua or assets help? i still got the stuff from the mod from early last year
maiden surge
we have it already
One of the first things we did it set up a test old Steamodded interface to be able to get it working too 
so that way you can like copy functionality
modest beacon
@main bramble I reworked tarlton to work a bit better. I wasn't getting your crash but could you give it a spin and see if the crash still occurs
unique bridge
PEAKO
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:p
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No thunk banned gifs
scenic geyser
today on no fun allowed
vast hazel
Hey I asking for the same but only shows bad apple
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vast hazel
So will the jelly mod be fixed ever?
tidal venture
There seems to be a problem with Tarlton. It doesn't copy some other jokers unless there is already a Blueprint or Brainstorm doing so. Heck, it'll outright cancel out a few effects, which for the Turtle Bean is funny.
@modest beacon
modest beacon
not too surprised, it's some very old code
it seems to work on some effects for me but yeah
I should really work on thsi again
it's been over a year since my last change (which was surprisingly a tarltojn fix)
also theres no need to make the issue in 3 different spots
I pushed a fix I think