DeFused: Fusion Jokers without the fusion

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused
Yes, it is literally just that, no, I'm not joking. Technically my first modding project, but I didn't have to do very much at all. All credit for the jokers and the code goes to @quiet crest and @wispy canyon I just have weird taste

If you do try it out, let me know if you have any issues, or if the rarities I chose for the jokers seem off

[peak condor]

Awesome! I have a ton of modded jokers installed so i would probably rarely get a chance to fuse anything, but those jokers were so well made. Awesome!

[nova lotus]

exactly my thinking in why I wanted to do this

[solar orbit]

Can you have this running alongside the normal Fusion mod, or do you have to pick and choose 1?

(Also, obligatory 0.9.8 working comment.)

[nova lotus]

Haven't tried it, but... probably? The mods have different id's and stuff. All the jokers have the same names though and I remember that sometimes but not always being an issue. Also, it's still 0.98 code, but has only been tested on 1.0

[solar orbit]

Alright. 👍
I'll try out both.

@nova lotus How is it downloaded if there aren't any Releases?

[nova lotus]

Just use the code button.

Also both of and fusion working together is seeming a bit unlikely with the jokers also having the same internal names, but I sounds be able to change that easily enough if needed

[solar orbit]

W...what is this?
(Also, I'm not too familiar with GitHub, is there a download button outside of the Releases for them?)

[nova lotus]

If that's in the assets it is on the actual mod too, lol

[solar orbit]

I've never seen this Fusion before, maybe it's because I have an older version of Fusion, but lmao.

[nova lotus]

There's the 'code' button on the top right, that's green. It allows you to download a zip of the repo

[nova lotus]

Nah it isn't implemented I don't think

Only 15 actual jokers are in the mod

And that isn't one of them

[solar orbit]

Okay, thank you, that works. 👍

Is it just a red herring for people snooping into the Joker pictures, or what? ||Cuz I did also see Star Oracle and Moon Marauder in there as well.||

[nova lotus]

It might be or it might be a planned fusion that never got added yet

[solar orbit]

Okay, I've got both running at once, and it seems to be going fine so far. Defused might just override the normal Fusion Jokers, as far as I see.

[nova lotus]

Hmm, what does it look like in your collection screen?

[solar orbit]

It replaces the normal Fusions fully.

AND I still have the Fusion function?

[nova lotus]

That truly is odd. Well let me know if it all works. If it does itss kinda... fully compatible on accodent

[nova lotus]

Abd you're sure the nornsl ones aren't also still in your colectiion?

[solar orbit]

Nope, those are the only ones.
Also, just found the Golden Ovo:

[nova lotus]

Glad to see they do naturally show up in the shop. I wasn't 100% sure I didn't have to do something (besides changing rarity which I did) to make that happen

Also I totally forgot to set prices, guess there's a fallback for that too, lol

[solar orbit]

Ah, yeah, that probably needs to be fixed. Also, hell yeah, getting the win from just the hand type alone. 😎

[nova lotus]

ayyyy

also looks like they all already have costs, presumably because they had to, and/or to just half it for sell value

[nova lotus]

@solar orbit looking at the rarities (just mouse over them in collection) is there any you'd change? Besides Flag Bearer being uncommon instead of rare, meant to do that before

[solar orbit]

Mhh...the Diamond and Club Heroes could be Uncommon instead of Rare, due to them either scaling slower compared to the Spade Joker, or having a LOT less fixed power compared to the Heart Hero.

Other than that, no real complaints from me.

(It's mainly just cuz of how BUSTED the Heart Hero is compared to everyone else, lol.)

[nova lotus]

yeah I could see that, but I also like having them be the missing rare suit jokers, counterpart to the common set and uncommon set

and Shiny Stone is already a shit uncommon so it kinda carries the theme

[solar orbit]

Yeah, fair enough, and the only real issue is with the Heart Hero being almost blatently better than any of the others, but that's a Fusion Joker thing and not a DeFused thing.

[nova lotus]

nods hearts and spades being the best suits seems to be nothing new in balatro

I also pushed the update to Flag Bearer if anyone is interested

[deft zealot]

Inb4 Coonie makes "DeEvolved" 😨

[nova lotus]

Don't think I won't :P

Also not even kidding, I probably will at some point

I'm a maniac who cannot be stopped

[dense wedge]

DeVolved

[deft zealot]

Lmao

[solid inlet]

Reference to You Don't Know Jack

[solar orbit]

I know what it's a reference to, but I was just weirded out by seeing that face.

[buoyant plaza]

that's because fusionjokers has compatibility with six suits

those two are built into fusionjokers and if you have that and six suits, those two are available

[nova lotus]

Ah makes sense I uh... "surgically" removed that song with the test of the mod besides the jokers

Surgically in the sense an ice pick lobotomy is surgery

[nova lotus]

I'm still shocked something I did on a whim in a couple hours because it was keeping me awake once o realized I found totally do it right-here-right-now seemed to go so smoothly

I figured I'd pretty much just have to delete anything that wasn't joker definitions/functions but I didn't think I'd actuality have such an easy time

If anything's acting fucky, for whoever's playing with this, please let me know

[quiet crest]

unimplemented hit the road fusion art

[nova lotus]

Officially added the GPL 3 license in the github repo for both this and my mod pack, to better comply with said license for the purposes of Steamodded, Fusion Jokers, abs ask the other projects I'm redistributing, abd also because it was always my intention that, as anything based on Steanodded already is anyway, by default, that my projects be released under said license.

[meager glen]

Yeah, same bug as fusion jokers, money jokers like cloud 9 don't cash out

golden egg seems nonfunctional too

[nova lotus]

So cloud 9 is broken suddenly, which is weird, but isn't golden egg working just fine?

[nova lotus]

It's giving the payout at least. Is the sell value not increasing?

[meager glen]

not increasing i think

the problems are from fusion jokers

[nova lotus]

Unfortunately I don't really know how to code, at least I haven't in years and never in lua lol. Still I'll try to see if I can figure out what's breaking it

Okay, so Golden egg is working no issues, it gives the payout and increases sell value like intended

but yeah cloud nine and presmably all the other oayout jokers aren't giving theirs

I wonder what Fusion does that breaks those

I'm thinking the problem exists here

[deft zealot]

try moving calculate_dollar_bonusref(self) below the second last end

[nova lotus]

seems to be identical behavior with this

[deft zealot]

You forgot to remove the previous calculate_dollar_bonusref(self)

[nova lotus]

oh derp

[deft zealot]

Ye

[nova lotus]

one sec

still same behavior unfortunately

I did confirm it's defintialy something there though, by commenting all of it out completely, Cloud 9 gives its payout, but of course, Golden Egg doesn't

[nova lotus]

so yeah there is something there keeping other jokers from giving their dollar bonuses, but seems to need a different fix

[deft zealot]

Thank Aure we can do it on the Joker object in 1.0 directly

[nova lotus]

So, doing some more testing, the same behavior seems to happen whether the " calculate_dollar_bonusref(self)" line is there at all

[deft zealot]

Yea since it replaces the whole function

the ref calls the old function saved in local above

Check if any other mods uses a calculate_dollar_bonus_ref function too

[nova lotus]

looks like morefluff does

wait nvm

it's not exactly the same

though looking at this, maybe it's the "return" that's missing?

for the ref

yep, that was it @deft zealot @meager glen

fix pushed to repo

@solar orbit @peak condor and anyone else using this, y'all probably want to update, I fixed a bug keeping jokers besides Golden Egg from paying out

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused

Here's the repo link again as its a bit buried now

(well not really I guess, but still)

[meager glen]

Do you mind me borrow the code and fix my own fusion Joker code

[nova lotus]

Go ahead :3 it is gpl 3 anyway, I even added the license officially

[nova lotus]

Just replace this

[nova lotus]

With this

[nova lotus]

.

[meager glen]

this means alot for me. thank you so much coonie

[nova lotus]

You're welcome :3

And thank you for the kind words

[nova lotus]

Should I add the Jestobiology jokers too? Either as their own mod or hurray staple them onto DeFused?

[solar orbit]

The Fusion (Arcana Card).

Spawn a random Joker that can fuse. If you have DeFused on, will have 1 in 4 chance to spawn a Fusion Joker.

Conjoin. (Spectral Card.)
If you have a Joker that can fuse, spawn the other Joker needed, but also -10$. If you don't have one, or are using Defused, spawn a random Fusion Joker, but -20$.

[solar orbit]

I personally havn't used it, but I think it would probably be pretty cool.
(Also, as it turns out, Morefluff actually has a Fusion of its own, called Huge Stuntman).

Also, I suggested a new Tarot and Spectral on the main Fusion thread, so I'll post it here as well.

The Fusion (Arcana Card).

Spawn a random Joker that can fuse. If you have DeFused on, will have 1 in 4 chance to spawn a Fusion Joker.

Conjoin. (Spectral Card.)
If you have a Joker that can fuse, spawn the other Joker needed, but also -10$. If you don't have one, or are using Defused, spawn a random Fusion Joker, but -20$.

[nova lotus]

Oh no, you're not a vaporeon anymore. Damn shame :P

[solar orbit]

Got asked to change it in a game server that I was in, lol. At least this is pretty funny.

[nova lotus]

pffft, sounds like a lame ass server

[nova lotus]

Major Update: Added 10 more jokers from an obscure follow-up to Fusion Jokers that never got added to github. I thought it was a good time to make a release

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.1

#1227317656131211284 message

Here's where the original is in the Fusion thread

[meager glen]

Huh

I will test that

Sadly fusion2 broke my pack

[nova lotus]

hol up, need to fix something

fixed

[nova lotus]

Lemme know if y'all have any issues or questions

[nova lotus]

Ugh... why is Jestobiokogy coded... like that? Is it just me and my utter lack of experience @near quartz or is this weird and overly complecated?

https://github.com/spikeof2010/Jestobiology/blob/main/Jestobiology.lua

Sorry if you dont like random pings, you're just the only one I've talked to about this sort of thing

Basically I just want to add the jokers directly to defused (minus the codex ones due to genuinely needing content from that mod) like I did with Fusions 2, but the way it's coded seems to make that a bit of a pain

Ofc, i could just not care about internal consistency with joker defs, that'd probably go a long way. Just staple it on mostly as is

It's not that it seems that hard to manually reformat the definitions to the standard 0.98 format, just tedious

[near quartz]

0.9.8 jank basically

[nova lotus]

just about got it I think. Ngl, I used chatgpt to do the grunt work of converting it. It seems to have mostly worked, but there are some issues so far

here's what chatgpt spat out for the definitions

and the current state of the DeFuzed script

I got a crash with all of the Jestobiology jokers equipped, so obviously something is still wrong

Trying to debug it now

Also, yes I removed the codex jokers (at least for now) and changed the Typography joker, to make it make more sense as a normal joker and because there are no actual Fusion rarity jokers anymore

this is the crash in question

The offending line is

      if effects.jokers.mult_mod then mult = mod_mult(mult + effects.jokers.mult_mod);extras.mult = true end

which doesn't seem to have anything to do with Defused at all... and it's not mentioned at all in the crash message

[solar orbit]

Me, with absolutely no modding experience whatsoever, watching the magic unfold.
https://media.tenor.com/2jzUClkmyAUAAAAM/popcorn-michael-jackson.gif

[nova lotus]

lol, and you think I do?

This is very much the most coding I've had to do up to this point

[near quartz]

You’ve got something sending a table as the mult mod

[nova lotus]

The rest was very copy-paste delete, and went unserivngly smoothly

[solar orbit]

You got this far, so it's definitely more than me.

Also, I have the pre-Jesterbiology version (I think the very 1st or 2nd release), and I haven't had any issues with it, even with having the normal Fusion Jokers on.

(Though, I do have the payout jokers issue, so that might be something tied to this. Then again, it could just be a regular Fusion Joker issue.)

[nova lotus]

I did fix that at some point, at least mostly. I guess there might still be something wrong with Delayed Gratification

oh.... that;s why you were still having the issue with it

because you had the fix for normal Fusion, but not the fix for defused

which are the same fix

but my mod overwrites the original one for the most part it seems

so no fix

[solar orbit]

It's all making sense now.

[nova lotus]

try it with the newest version of my mod, it shouldn't change anything, just add a few jokers

and fix the error

[nova lotus]

but how do I tell where if the trace doesn't show my mod... unless it's somehow unrelated

The release is stable and from after I put the "Joker Fusions 2" jokers in, but before I started messing around with jestobiology

[near quartz]

It’s this one

It needs to be card.ability.extra.mult

[solar orbit]

Man, Deck Creator is so amazing...

Now, lemme try and see if this will work.

[nova lotus]

ayy thank you so much

it seems to work now

no crash and no weird behavior at a glance

good enough for a release in balatro mod country :P

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus EYYYY, THERE WE GO! :D

[nova lotus]

ayyyyy

oh there is one bug I should try to fix before doing another release

Chaos the Clown isn't giving his free rerolls

idk if it's a Fusion issue or DeFused issue

[solar orbit]

(Again?)

[nova lotus]

never fixed that one

[solar orbit]

(Cuz a while back, I had that issue with the regular Fusion Mod, tho I dunno if it's an issue with the modern one or no.

[nova lotus]

modern as in? Smodded 0.98?

[solar orbit]

I mean with the Fusion Joker mod, as with that one, the CCC wasn't giving any more free rerolls after the 1st.

[nova lotus]

Yeah, that's what defused directly rips all its code from

there's no newer version

[near quartz]

Why isn’t this made in 1.0 btw?

[nova lotus]

because that would involve knowing how to code, and not just adapting exiting 0.98 mods

[near quartz]

Fair

[solar orbit]

This is officially my first time doing High Card brainrot, wish me luck. 🖖

[nova lotus]

lol, good luck

See if the dark side really does have cookies

[solar orbit]

WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO GET YOUR DUMBASS, AND NOT SOMETHING LIT LIKE PERKEO?!

[nova lotus]

here's the function that I think is likely at fault for the reroll thing

I have an idea to fix it, so let's see if that works fist

[solar orbit]

The one time I'm trying to not go for a Lucky build...

[nova lotus]

nah what I tried didn't work. I'm not much sure tbh

[solar orbit]

Guys, is this what High Carding is supposed to look like?

[nova lotus]

lol, idk. I... never play high card

I seem to be a lot like you, liking lucky cards and flushes and that sort of thing

[solar orbit]

Feels good when a fucking High Card hand ON ITS OWN can defeat a small blind.

Normally, I wouldn't sell a hand size joker for this...but C'MON, that's just too perfect!!!

[nova lotus]

Good ol' Integer Benteger

[solar orbit]

Okay, I gotta admit, High Card and Discard-less is SUPER fun with the right setup.

[nova lotus]

Not even a peep for bloody "Integer Benteger" lmfao

[solar orbit]

GIVE IT UP FOR LEVEL 50.

[solar orbit]

That's a pretty funny one, I gotta admit, I was just trying to fix my screen for a second.

Also, Big Blast now has 8.3x Mult, if my calculations are correct.

[nova lotus]

hehe fair, and oooh cool

[solar orbit]

I'm not even bringing him along cuz he's gud, I'm just doing so because:
A. He'll allow me to proc Black.
B. M.

[nova lotus]

nein spreche cryptidese ("no speak", for compliance)

As if I actually retained any German either

[solar orbit]

Yep, never did so either, I just know the way of the m.

Also, Judgement gave me an old friend. :D

We're in the Endgame now, bois.

[solar orbit]

I desire rest...

[nova lotus]

I decided to just make a release in the meantime. The Collectable Chaos Card bug is nothing new

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2

Lemme know if you have any issues

And no, the mods the original jokers come from aren't nessacaeily needed

[solar orbit]

...It is done. At least, for now.

The run is finally starting to peter out, at about Ante 16.

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus I think that Fishclown doesn't work on Real Random Lucky Cards from Betmma's Vouchers, lol.

[nova lotus]

You don't seem to be getting the x1.5 per card?

[nova lotus]

Did it seem to work with normal lucky cards?

[solar orbit]

I started the game with Real Random (thanks to a Deck that I made with Deck Creator), so I dunno. I'll try that later.

[nova lotus]

Ah very fair

[nova lotus]

DeFused

Jestobiology

Yeah that doesn't look quite right

The pitfalls of using chatgpt to automate busy work

I'll fix it when I get on my computer and see if it's just that

Should probably check for other references to 'self' that got changed too

@near quartz is that what it looks like night be causing it?

[near quartz]

Yeah looks to be

[dusty dirge]

Which fusion mod is the blue pepper from? I don't see it on the Fusion Jokers site or the Jestobiology site.

[deft zealot]

Probably that one Fusion Jokers dlc

[nova lotus]

Yeah exactly. It's weirdly relegated to life I've post on the fusion thread, but someone found it and I added it

[dusty dirge]

Oh? Does it have a site-thing, too, or...?

[nova lotus]

Nah it doesn't seem to. Not even a github

Just a zip file dropped in chat one time

[dusty dirge]

Oh. Well, what are the fusions, then?

[nova lotus]

#1227317656131211284 message

Here's where it is in chat, there's probably some discussion of it beforehand

I'm on my phone or else I'd look at the original file and give you the list of fusions from it

[dusty dirge]

Oh okay then.

[nova lotus]

You should be able to make out what the fusions are from this

The effects are in the individual descriptions, so I have no easy way to screenshot them

[dusty dirge]

Ah so it's the Blue Java. I figured that'd be a fusion between one of the bananas and Ice Cream, considering another common name for it.

The Ice Cream is even blue.

[nova lotus]

Seems to reference this

Oh I see what you mean

[dusty dirge]

Yeah. I know. The reason I mentioned Ice Cream is, well...

[nova lotus]

Yeah, I think the logic is just 2 bananas = even better banana

[nova lotus]

Yeah mb I figured that out a second after I sent that

[dusty dirge]

Fair point there I guess. Must be pretty strong considering the extra effort you'd need to go to if you want it.

Y'know, what with its components typically being mutually exclusive and all.

[nova lotus]

It's x7 mult with some low chance to decrease by 1 at the end of the round

I don't know how to read the odds from the code

And it looks like it was supposed to be with ice cream at some point

[dusty dirge]

Ah. So pretty good but nothing Cryptid-level broken.

[dusty dirge]

I wonder why they changed it. Presumably the effect was also different.

[nova lotus]

Yeah, probably was, and not sure why they changed it

The description is now wrong for the actual fusion version, lol

That's where it still says Ice cream

[nova lotus]

Also, wouldn't the mult decrease by 0.5, not 1 like the description says? Xmult_mod is set to 0.5 and it seems to simply subtract that from mult

If so definitely gonna fix the description rather than the code

Also I think it miiiight be 1 in 6 from trying to read the code, but I'm not sure, and I thought it was a fair bit lower. Might not be particularly a low chance, but not bad if it's only losing 0.5x

Definitely a high anti-synergy for Snow's infinity joker either way though, lol

@dusty dirge

Also I need to fix the prices for the "Joker Fusion 2" jokers, they're all set to 12 which is too high for a lot of them

[nova lotus]

So, the issue with Fish Clown is fixed (though not pushed to the repo yet) but now I have an issue with Original Character always being +0 mult

Idk if it happens witn normal Jestobiology or not

Pretty sure this is the code in question for both versions

@solar orbit the fixes to fish clown and the rest of the jestobiology jokers (besides Original Character) are pushed to the repo

gonna hold off on making an actual release until I know that any bugs I personally introduced seem to be fixed

[solar orbit]

👍

[nova lotus]

Anybody have any ideas on the Original Character or Vollectable Chaos Card issues? Or that can conform if OC works correctly on Jestobiology?

[nova lotus]

@near quartz if you could take a look whenever you have a bit, that's be cool. And just let me know if I'm bothering you too much

The bugs in question being Collectable Chaos Card not giving rerolls and original chatacter being stuck at 0 mult

[nova lotus]

.

[nova lotus]

.

I think I narrowed it down to something in those areas as the problems

[nova lotus]

New release, incorporating changes since the original Jestobiology update

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.1

[near quartz]

Your mod prefix is defu not f, if you swap that in the key it should work

[nova lotus]

pretty sure that whole thing is hardcoded in as the joker name

I tried it though

no change

here's everything to do with the main joker definition

[near quartz]

Maybe j_defu_f_original_character?

It has been a while since I used 0.9.8 code though

[nova lotus]

figured it out. Turns out the code was fine, I just accidentaly had it nested in an unrelated if statement

whoops

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.2

New release with fix

[visual pivot]

How'd you get it to work?

[solar orbit]

I'm still on the latest stable release of 0.9.8, so it works for me.

[quiet crest]

you have my blessing (for what its worth)

oh you went and did it, noice

[solar orbit]

It's honestly my first time using them, as I never bothered to install the original mod, lol. They're pretty great.

[quiet crest]

🙇

if we ever get fusions kicking for 1.0 i might make more who knows

[meager glen]

it's already doing great in 0.9.8 compat

[nova lotus]

Thank you anyway, I'm glad that the project didn't come across as disrespectful or anything

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Question, is this fine to use on 1.0, or no? Cuz I finally updated to it.

[nova lotus]

Yeah I've been using and testing on 1.0 this whole time

[solar orbit]

Alright, will re-install it. 👍

[nova lotus]

Np :3

[solar orbit]

@leaden zephyr Do ye mind pinning this?

[solar orbit]

Massive Chad, as usual.

[nova lotus]

Has anyone had any luck figuring out why Collectable Chaos Card isn't giving the rerolls? I'd really like to get a fully working release out. I know this bug is in the original Fusion Jokers too, but I wanna fix it here like I did with the payout thing

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.3

New release: Fixes Serial Killer not crashing the game and not working

[nova lotus]

@solar orbit did you ever get around to taking a look at the prices

no worries if not

[solar orbit]

Sorri, been busy with college crap, I'll take a look soon.

[nova lotus]

no worries :3

[solar orbit]

Updated to 1.0, and got the Cryptid/Jen combo. Was working fine beforehand, but now crashing when I put in this mod again.
@nova lotus Any idea as to what's happening?

[nova lotus]

What is that line in Jen's?

Also make sure you're using the most recent release

There were some bugs before that night cause crashes

[solar orbit]

I'll check.

This is the line, no idea what's causing it to make an oopsie woopsie with DeFused.

Just downloaded the latest release of DeFused, and still the same crash.

I think it might be an incompat issue.

[nova lotus]

Do you have regular fusion jokers installed too?

[nova lotus]

.

Try changing line 20 of Defused to say Defused instead of FusionJokers

That was something I probably should have done right away, but totally overlooked

[solar orbit]

Not anymore, why?

[nova lotus]

Because if you did it'd be able to find the function. I accidently left the parent function of my mod named to FusionJokers, so it tries to find that function in it and fails

[nova lotus]

This should fix it regardless

Though it might change how it behaves with normal fusionjokers installed alongside

[solar orbit]

That seems to have fixed it, at least when launching, thank you.

[nova lotus]

No worries :3 I'll push an update with that change when I'm at my computer tonight

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.4

A bit late, but here's the new release

[nova lotus]

@solar orbit pretty sure you were already on the latest release, but just in case, did see if the problem you were having applies to the latest release?

[solar orbit]

Just got the latest release, and it's still giving an error message.

[nova lotus]

yeah, definitely seems to be the problem I thought it was, "my" jokers having the same internal keys as the original Fusion jokers

[solar orbit]

Alright, I'll be waiting for it. 👍

[nova lotus]

if only this problem wasn't so trivial, yet very monotonous to fix and hard to automate

[nova lotus]

Good news is it's actually a lot less monotonus than I thought

bad news is now it says that "jokers" is a nil value on line 224, and I don't know why my changes would do that

here's the full file atm

[deft zealot]

remove "SMODS.jokers." at line 224 and line 228

[nova lotus]

does that still apply given this is a 0.98 mod?

[deft zealot]

You should really change it to SMOD 1.0 format eventually btw

[deft zealot]

Should work I think

[nova lotus]

And that's how it's always been, and it worked fine before I tried to change the keys

[deft zealot]

Can you show a different joker?

See if there are any differences

[nova lotus]

though if I did something kludgy with my find+replace it could be all of them

here's what diamond bard looked like before

[deft zealot]

It would crash earlier if it was the case no? Did you try removing the new diamond bard see if it was the only broken one?

[nova lotus]

(Sorry keyboard issues)

was trying to say Diamond Bard is the first joker

[nova lotus]

will try that now

yeah, it's all of them. It just gives the same error for the new first joker

[deft zealot]

rip

[nova lotus]

wait....

I think I see it

capital vs lowercase "j"

yep, that was it

@solar orbit try replacing your DeFused.lua with this, if it works, I'll put out a new release

also @deft zealot any ideas on the more longstanding issue that I recently mentioned in modding-dev (the one with Collectible Chaos Card not working right)

[deft zealot]

Free rerolls are wonky from my experience

[solar orbit]

Okay, it got to the menu this time, let's see if the game actually works.

[solar orbit]

It seems to be working fine now, but funny thing is, the Fusion and DeFused Jokers are considered as different Jokers.

[nova lotus]

yeah, the fact that they weren't was what was causing your crash

[solar orbit]

👍

[nova lotus]

Tbh, it makes more sense this way anyways

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.5

And here's the new release :3

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Using normal Lucky Cards with Magician Deck from Cryptid, and Fishclown is STILL not triggering with it.

[nova lotus]

Huh, guess I'll take another look at that

Mighta screwed something up when I changed the key

[nova lotus]

sorry I still haven't got it working, I've been messing around with it

I guess it never worked properly even though I could have sworn it did at one point

Could someone with regular jestobiology see if it works there? Because even using the exact same code as the original, it doesn't seem to work, at least with Lucky cards

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Have you taken a look at the Fishclown code? Maybe there's an obvious issue with it.

[nova lotus]

I can post it in case anyone who'd notice such a thing notices it. I haven't, but I also... as I just said in another thread, can't really code

[solar orbit]

Might wanna post this in #💻・modding-dev as well, just in case someone recognizes the problem.

[nova lotus]

great minds think alike :P

[nova lotus]

@solar orbit https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.6

Fixed :3

[solar orbit]

You know what that means?

FISH!

[nova lotus]

I'm really not looking forward to having to port this to 1.0, lol. Hopefully when Fusion gets ported, it includes the "DLC" jokers, and Jestobiology gets ported too. Then I can just remake it from existing code agaIn. Like the cheat I am

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.7
Very minor update. Apperently there was a slightly newer version of the "expansion" to Fusion Jokers (which ended up officially being called Vultbines Joker) that I missed. Luckily the only differences were the name and same changes to the Moorstone code (and Serial Killer, but I already fixed that one). I presume that Moorstone didn't work right before and I just never noticed

[solar orbit]

What is Moorstone again?

[nova lotus]

uh... something to do with the stone card joker. I don't really know, lol

I'd have to look at the description

it's one of the ones I never even consider

I added all jokers in the 3 mods besides the ones from jesto requiring Codex. So, some of them... aren't my cup of tea

[solar orbit]

Fair enough, we gotta wait for them to update at least.

Also, I'm not sure if Ride the Bull works properly, you might wanna take a look at it.

[nova lotus]

I'll take a look tonight

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Also, got a question, how exactly DID you use GPT to make the base code of this mod? Cuz I remember that you used something like that to make the base code for Defused, by converting the original Fusion Joker code?

[nova lotus]

I only did it for one of the original mods. Jestobiology had its code layed out really weird compared to the others

I just kinda fed it what the the more normal code looked like and told it put the jestobiology code in the same format

The actual removing of fusion aspect was done by me later anyway. That's just deleting lines

[solar orbit]

Oh, okay, I was just curious. 👍

[nova lotus]

No worries :3

It.. worked well enough. Especially when I went back and replaced the calculate functions with the originals. Mostly was just using it to automate reformatting the joker definitions

[nova lotus]

Pretty sure it's just a visual error because they did this in the original mod, lol. Copied the message from Sweet Theater Combo and put the wrong key

It shouldn't effect gameplay but I'll fix it for the next update

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.8
fixed

[solar orbit]

👍

[nova lotus]

God diamond bard does suck. @solar orbit should I buff it? Lol

My other problem with it is it acts more like a bootstraps fusion

What does greedy joker or (the uncommon one that I forgot the name of) have to do with being rich?

[solar orbit]

Whatever ya think is best. Personally, I'd do something with "retriggers for every 20$ you have" instead of +4 Mult, but I don't know if that steps on Heart Paladin's toes too much.

[solar orbit]

Rough Gem gives you $ for each Diamond you score, so it's probably giving you the +Mult from Greedy for money. Honestly, though, it's mostly just a worse Bootstraps.

[nova lotus]

Unfortunately I still can't code for shit, so I'd have a hell of a time actually changing its effect

Also it does go against the spirit of this mod tbh

With all the renewed interest in Fusions, maybe Fusion will be ported to 1.0 soon and it'll be changed there

[solar orbit]

Posted a poll in the Fusion channel, in case you wanna see.

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/DeFused/releases/tag/0.2.9
I noticed and fixed a crash with Typography Joker

[nova lotus]

I also noticed a lot of jokers don't have the pop-up messages upon scoring. I'll take a look to see if I accidently removed some of the loc stuff when I added them

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Just letting ya know, with the 1.0 port of Morefluff, Philosophical Joker can now be taken while you have full Joker slots, so you might wanna apply that to Original Character and Monday Menace as well (since they were originally fusions involving Philosophical Joker).

[nova lotus]

I'll see if I have any idea how to do that

[solar orbit]

There's also issues with Dementia Joker as well, has the 3 in 3 chance as well.

[nova lotus]

Will fix that is I ever make it an actual site

[nova lotus]

So, just for fun (and so people can more easily see what the jokers are.) I decided to actually do it

https://gaycoonie.github.io/DeFused/
Defused has a webpage now

[solar orbit]

Great name. 👍

[nova lotus]

Lmao. I guess I didn't check the html for that. Been a while since I've done web design stuff

[solar orbit]

No probs, figured I'd just catch that for you.
And funny enough, I'm in a web design major/class rn.

[deft zealot]

It's nice but it would be better if it was more eye pleasing because uhm

[solar orbit]

Hmm? Looks like this to me.

[deft zealot]

No I meant the joker text

It's hardly readable

[nova lotus]

It's just the default font with the template

[deft zealot]

I mean the line break are ugly

It's written
like
this it's annoying

[nova lotus]

Oh I see. Yeah I can remove those. Tbh I don't know why chatgpt insisted on adding them

(I'm lazy and used it to convert the joker definitions to the template code)

[deft zealot]

Yea either you put the whole desc inbetween just 2 quote marks or you modify it so it fits nicely

[solar orbit]

[Also, you might wanna include the info link on the DeFused Github as well, so people can see it from there.]

[deft zealot]

Had to do the later for my version of the template

[solar orbit]

@leaden zephyr, do you mind pinning this for us?

[nova lotus]

Yeah the only appropriate linebreak in the one to make the current status separate

[nova lotus]

done

[nova lotus]

fixed :3 which I totally didn't also use chatgpt for Also made it wider, it looked silly only being able to be 3 jokers wide

[deft zealot]

True, made mine 4 times wider

[leaden zephyr]

Get Defusioned in the middle of your Battle Phase

[solar orbit]

Thank ya, you're the best Egg around...well, technically not, as there's Golden Eggs here, but it's the thought that counts.

[nova lotus]

Should I buff uncanny face to match dynamic duo? It feels pretty weak as is

@solar orbit

(And anyone else with an opinion)

[buoyant plaza]

uncanny face is good as is

reminder that is +15 chips and +2 mult for every face card in the hand, if you play more than 2 face cards it's better than dynamic duo because it's +30 chips and +4 mult each at 2 face cards

play 5 and you get +10 mult +75 chips for each of them

[nova lotus]

Oh yeah. Fair. Though I'm not convinced it's programmed properly

[buoyant plaza]

it is programmed properly

you mightve botched the port

[solar orbit]

It's meant for spamming Face Cards with scaling up, while DD stays as it is. Just having 2 face cards already matches DD, and having 5 makes it reach 2.5x the size.

[nova lotus]

Well I didn't do anything to change the code, so unless I left a section out it's good

I just can't read and tend to prefer number card builds

[buoyant plaza]

it's been a while since ive used it, don't really do face card runs often

[nova lotus]

So i didn't realize what it does

[buoyant plaza]

most of my runs are "what do i want to do" and then i see the lucky 7 deck in sdm0's and do another 7s run with the cryptid 7 support

[nova lotus]

I've had trouble converting flush runs to flush five recently. So I end up doing general non-face flushes

Using cards like dynamic duo and the other modded jokers that act on number cards

[buoyant plaza]

uhh

reminder to update dd's description

number cards excludes aces

but dd includes aces

[nova lotus]

Oh yeah that pedantry

I'll get to it eventually

[buoyant plaza]

and +31 chips instead of +30

actually i think it should be +33

i like that number more

[nova lotus]

Doesn't help that DD is far from the only joker with that "problem"

A is a number anyway. Who says we aren't using hexadecimal? The value is even correct

Wait A is 10 in hex

Damn

[nova lotus]

Yeah I guess one of the numbers should be odd, for the theme

[nova lotus]

https://github.com/CelestialBoon/MystesOpenJokers

oh shit, I just realized a mod that I've been using this whole time has Fusions I've never seen

time to get defusing

[nova lotus]

so, I'm feeling especially lazy and tired, but I did use chatgpt to make a fork where they're all DeFused in the mod itself:
https://github.com/GayCoonie/MystesOpenJokers

I'll add this to my modpack, and add them to DeFused at a later date

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Do you know if anyone has been making Fusions of Cryptid Jokers?

[nova lotus]

I'm not familiar, no

[solar orbit]

Not sure, either, but I may make a few concepts eventually.

[solar orbit]

Probably 15, like the base Fusion mod.

Also, the original Fusion Joker mod, mainly the fixed version made by Jen, is broken due to the latest SMods version that edited how Rarities work.

[solar orbit]

• Fortune Cookie (Uncommon, Lucky Joker + Consume-able): Earn 5$ whenever a Lucky Card triggers. If both/all effects trigger on a Lucky Card, create a random consumable (does not require space, but can overflow).

• Maniac (Uncommon, Kidnapping + Bonk): Gives +4 Chips per Joker, increases by +2 when a Pair is played. This is increased by +4 when you sell a Mult/Chip Hand Joker, or +16 if it's a Jolly/M Joker.

• Primate Arms (Rare, Monkey + Pirate Dagger): Destroys Jokers to the left and right of this one on round start, and gains 10x the sell value in Chips, and 1/3rd the sell value in xChips. (I will not do Ceremonial + Unjust, as that's just Serial Killer.)

• Bubble Card (Uncommon, Bubble M + Reverse Card): All Jolly Jokers give +25 Chips and +5 Mult while holding this. Playing a 5OAK or FF will destroy this Joker and create Negative Jolly Jokers depending on your current open Joker slots.

• Regular Cube (Uncommon, Cube + Big Cube): +60 Chips, x1.6 Chips. If this Joker is retriggered 6 times, give ^1.06 Chips for that trigger and beyond.

• Brainrot Joker (Uncommon, Absurd + Dubious Joker): This Joker gains +2 Mult and +10 Chips when playing a High Card hand.

• Unending Maze (Rare, Panopticon + Labyrinth): Hands/Discards always cound as both first and last hands/discards of the round. Jokers/effects that have to do with first/last hands/discards are retriggered once.

• Fused Commoners (Epic, Bonus + Mult Joker): Scoring either Bonus or Mult cards will have a 1 in 6 chance to increase either Joker or Consumable slots by 1 and 1 in 2 chance to spawn a Cryptid card. (1 in 6 can only work 3 times per round. Must have room for 1 in 2. Effects are separate, but can occur on the same card).

• Average (Epic, Tiny + Huge): x3.5 Chips and Mult for rest of round if played hand is a Pair. Spawn a Double M Tag for every Pair hand after that.
  -# He can't decide what size to be.

[solar orbit]

• Fancy M (Legendary, M + Doodle M): Spawn a Negative Jolly Joker and 2 random Negative Consumables at start of round. NJJ increases by 1 per 10 Jolly/M Jokers you have, and NC increases by 1 per 1 Jolly/M Joker you have.

• Quad Scalae (Exotic, Double Scale + Scalae): Scaling Jokers increase as a degree-4 polynomial, raise degree by 4 at end of round.

• KILLTHEMALL (Epic, Night + Mercy + Heaven): Played 7's retrigger 3 times, and give 1.5x Chips and Mult when scored.

• Gigachad (Rare, SUS + Chad): On winning hand, create 1 copy of all played cards, and destroy all cards held in hand. Retrigger leftmost Joker 1 time, increasing by 1 for every 9 cards you've destroyed.

• Super Membership Card (Legendary, Membership Card + Old Membership Card): x0.1 Chips and Mult for each member of the Cryptid Discord. (Currently x458 Chips/Mult).

• Renovare Universum (Exotic, Iterum + Universum): x2 Chips and Mult to Poker Hands when they're leveled up. Gain 1 retrigger to played cards per 5 hand levels you have in that hand. Level up played hand for every 2 retriggers you have.

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Also, this and Monday Menace still can't be taken with full Joker slots, while in the latest release of MoreFluff, Philo. Joker can.

[obtuse orbit]

philo joker has specific logic for that

[solar orbit]

Both of these Defused Jokers originally had Philo. Joker as part of their Fusions before being Defused, so ir probably should work the same.

[obtuse orbit]

ah, that would make sense

I guess you could check with getting jestobiology updated first, but I don't know if that's active

[obtuse orbit]

I pushed a change to ModPackFixes that should allow the two jestobiology (and defused) jokers to work the same as philo

[buoyant plaza]

i fused one with splash

[solar orbit]

Ohh, which one?

[buoyant plaza]

sob

[solar orbit]

God damn, is the entire screen flooding with Splashes?

[buoyant plaza]

it's poetic

[solar orbit]

.

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus
Just realized that I have an IRL playing card deck that has the backs of a squirrel and raccoon, and it reminded me about you, sooooo:

Coonie Deck: Start with a random Negative, Eternal DeFused Joker. Cannot be Blue Java or Sweet Theatre.
Squirrely Deck: After each Boss Blind, 1 in 4 chance to create a random DeFused Joker.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, here's what the Jokers in it look like:

[nova lotus]

Hehe very cool

sorry I've been so absent, adhd and autism interests be like... lol

[solar orbit]

Thank you, and no probs. Hope you're doing well lately!

[rotund badger]

Hi racoon

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-eating-raccoon-gif-20774250

[turbid sparrow]

I just wanna know if this mod will be updated any more.

[nova lotus]

I still plan to, been absent lately, but trying to get back into balatro

[rotund badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[tropic hedge]

holy shit

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Hey heya, guess who's back?

[nova lotus]

Ayyy

[solar orbit]

Honestly haven't been here in a bit, hru?

Also, for the Fusion mod...doesn't seem like much happened with it. The only real thing that happened is that there was a new fork made that has a config option to make Fusion components no longer appear after getting the fusion (without Showman, of course).

[nova lotus]

I've been okay, also very absent from here though

[solar orbit]

:p

[nova lotus]

This too shall rise

[solar orbit]

👀

[worldly sphinx]

Soooo, I'm not entirely too sure when or if Coonie is going to return after he went MIA not even a few days after his last post here, but not some 20 minutes ago, I took the liberty to fix up some of the code in the mod (as to where some of the Jokers were activating their chips/mult effects on a constant basis) and turns out it was one line of code that caused them to go haywire.

Unsure if there may or may not be other issues with the remaining jokers that didn't have this problem, and since this mod has been dormant for a while, I'll be posting the fixed zip of the mod here for until Coon returns, enjoy

[solar orbit]

@nova lotus Heyo, been a bit, how are things going?

[solar orbit]

And thank you!

[pure forum]

@nova lotus Are you still working on Defusion?

[nova lotus]

@solar orbit @pure forum I still plan to, but I got a bit disenfranchised last time I came to this chat due to some of the new rules. It's hard to wanna get back into Balatro when discussion of some of my other major hobbies is banned

[nova lotus]

I really appreciate stuff like this. Thank you

[nova lotus]

To be more specific and less cryptic. Vibe coding is a big part of how DeFused was even possible with my low motivation and coding skill level and now I can't talk openly about such things

[worldly sphinx]

Oh damn ahhh you're welc GC! wasn't expecting you to come around these parts of the prairie again

[nova lotus]

Oh yeah I forgot we can't use stickers now either. Was gonna send a cute furry heart sticker. I love Balatro but this server has become something very different from the home it used to feel like

I'm sorry I'm being a bit negative. It just makes me sad. I get homesick for a place that no longer exists

[pure forum]

Man sorry to hear that, I am too new and just wasn't there for it. But know that put your mod with everything and enjoy so much, that figure I reach out to you

[pure forum]

I had one issue, the Joker with mult active even before you play them, and they count each individual mult before you can play do anything and it slow down the game a lot, any way to fix that?