Cruel Blinds

[plush heath]

Adds boss blinds which are generally harder than the base game boss blinds. Also there's a custom challenge which I'd say is quite difficult. Also there are 3 new finishers.

the normal CruelBlinds folder is for 0.9.8 and is missing some blinds

the 1_0_0 version of for the Steamodded 1.0.0 and has all the blinds.

https://github.com/Mathguy23/Cruel-Blinds

[balmy bridge]

DON'T ADD THE ZIP AS THE SOURCE CODE LMAO

[lusty token]

bruh

[plush heath]

what am i supposed to do

[lusty token]

I'm speechless the moment I saw a zip in source code

[balmy bridge]

add the files and directories

not the zip

lmaooo

[plush heath]

k

[lusty token]

I haven't even created my first repo, but by looking at other people's repo for long enough I can tell putting a zip there is very counter-intuitive

[plush heath]

this'll take a few minutes

the folder is there, still trying to figure out how to delete the zip

should be good now

[balmy bridge]

0.9.8 😔

[plush heath]

oh yeah

[plush heath]

1.0.0 Cruel Blinds hopefully coming soon

[shrewd escarp]

Me thankful that its 0.9.8 because I have alot of old mods

[plush heath]

nice

[shrewd escarp]

Thank you bro

[plush heath]

np enjoy the mod, and tell me if you manage to beat Daring Group, I only won the Very Cruel challenge once and it was with Common Muck (i didn't even have any rare/legendary jokers)

[shrewd escarp]

Do you have a full list of the blinds?

I have 1/3 of them unlocked, Im curious what the others do

[plush heath]

okay

in case anyone else cares ill spoil them

[shrewd escarp]

just dm it

[plush heath]

k

[shrewd escarp]

or put a spoiler on it

either or works

[plush heath]

the gray asterisk one ||The Mind - only one card is face up at any given time. cards are drawn face down then one is randomly flipped face up if there are none face up.||

The gray one with two zig zags ||The Jaw - drawing cards costs $1 each draw, if you can't pay you can't draw. your initial draw is free.||

The Blue Diamond one ||The Steal - your most played poker hand doesn't count as a poker hand. for example if full house is your most played, if you tried to play a full house it would only count the Three of a Kind. ||

The two vertical lines ||The Sink - all hands are deemed "Not Allowed" until you discard a flush or a hand containing a flush.||

The sun symbol ||The Day - All Spades and Clubs are debuffed and drawn face down||

The crescent ||The Night - All Hearts and Diamonds are debuffed and drawn face down||

The two zig zags attached to the line ||The Tide - the water but you have one less hand||

the two circles with a line ||The Sword - the needle but with one less discard||

the vertical weights ||The Shackle - -2 Hand Size||

the up arrow ||The Hurdle - at the start of the fight the ante is increased by one and the chip requirement is raised accordingly. the ante is also raised at the end of the fight (assuming you win) like normal. This blind cannot show up on Ante 7||

the eight purple lines ||The Collapse - when you play a hand for every time you've played that poker hand the blind size will increase by 4% from what it currently is. for example if you have played High Card 8 times and you play it again this fight the blind size will increase by 32% BEFORE scoring.||

[shrewd escarp]

AY YO

[plush heath]

||this happened to me one run (ante 7)||

[shrewd escarp]

and thats NOT A BOSS ONE????

[plush heath]

nope!

[shrewd escarp]

Are there boss ones?

[plush heath]

yes

[shrewd escarp]

Im scared

[plush heath]

the arm thing ||half of the levels of your played hand are spread to other hands randomly.||

[shrewd escarp]

What is it like The Great Wall - EXTRA EXTRA large Blind

[plush heath]

and now the showdowns

the one with no inner symbol ||Daring Group - three of the 5 normal showdown blinds are activated at once. these blinds are rerolled each discard and hand. violet vessel scales the score remaining you need to win when it activates and de-activates. selling a joker anytime during the round will prevent verdant leaf from debuffing you cards for the rest of said round.||

the one with an inner symbol ||Common Muck - rare and legendary jokers are debuffed.||

and that's all of them

[shrewd escarp]

atleast for me Common Muck doesnt seem too bad of an issue bc my rng sucks

[plush heath]

if it ends up generally too easy ||I'll buff it to debuff uncommons too||

[lime fiber]

you named the sun symbol and the crescent the same name?

[plush heath]

typo

[lime fiber]

kk

[plush heath]

Ig it’s compatible now, I’m yet to test though

[fair condor]

crash found

local min_use = 100
    for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.bosses_used) do
        if eligible_bosses[k] then
            eligible_bosses[k] = v
            if eligible_bosses[k] <= min_use then 
                min_use = eligible_bosses[k]
            end
        end
    end
    for k, v in pairs(eligible_bosses) do
        if eligible_bosses[k] then
            if eligible_bosses[k] > min_use then  -- HERE
                eligible_bosses[k] = nil
            end
        end
    end

said attempt to compare a number with boolean

[plush heath]

Any context for this error, that doesn’t seem like something caused by the mod

As in when did it happen

[fair condor]

right after clicking cash out

also i got another crash

local _, boss = pseudorandom_element(eligible_bosses, pseudoseed('boss'))
    G.GAME.bosses_used[boss] = G.GAME.bosses_used[boss] + 1 -- HERE

attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value

also right after cashing out

[plush heath]

Are you on 0.9.8 or 1.0,0?

[fair condor]

0.9.8

wait hold on lemme double check

im using whatever is in the repo

i didnt even know there exists a 1.0.0 ver for the mod

[plush heath]

no, as in your steamodded version

[fair condor]

0.9.8 then

[lusty token]

well
if you get it from release, it's 0.9.8 no doubt

[plush heath]

weird, ill see if i can recreate the error

[fair condor]

it seemed to be an occasional one. i dont remember it happening everytime

[plush heath]

after looking at the code, I'm not sure how that issue arose,

so you'll probs have to wait a bit for a fix

but it COULD be an issue on your end.

[fair condor]

yea but thats fine

[plush heath]

it being an issue on your end or waiting for a fix?

[fair condor]

both

i did a workaround, added smth to the ifs to temp bypass them nils. not sure if theyd cause any problem but at least the game wont crash

[plush heath]

im guessing it's a steamodded bug or something on your side

cuz teh errors clearly show that G.GAME.bosses_used isn't getting populated properly

[fair condor]

mod conflict maybe

[plush heath]

very likely

a few functions are complete overrides instead of adding onto the original function

[plush heath]

#15, it's a finisher.

[indigo cedar]

LMAO

if you have Cryptid it’s over… (until you play your second hand)

[plush heath]

What would a second hand do?

Would probably still mega overshoot again and re-raise the blind.

[indigo cedar]

if it scores equal to your first hand it won't

lol

[plush heath]

||That’s not how math works||

[lime fiber]

I like how the 2 people with Math in their name are now debating about math

[plush heath]

update.

[shrewd escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/o_o-gif-27284325

[plush heath]

i love being cruel

[shrewd escarp]

How good are you at coding these bosses? I got some cruel ideas

[plush heath]

im all ears

[shrewd escarp]

The Beneath: Playing suit applies negative to the multiplier

(I pulled that name out of my ass)

[plush heath]

no negatives, they don't render

[shrewd escarp]

booo

[plush heath]

i was originally gonna make The Steel

which multiplied mult and chips by -1

but it was replaced with The Steal

[shrewd escarp]

I feel like something that reduces your total would be evil but I guess overshoot is the closet we'll get

[plush heath]

overshoot is evil

[shrewd escarp]

Did you make one that shuffles Poker Levels? or evens them out?

I feel like you did

[plush heath]

yes

The Reach

[shrewd escarp]

what does it do again I cant find it

[indigo cedar]

Maybe make one where you have to play a random card in your deck to beat the blind

[shrewd escarp]

Like a specific card?

[plush heath]

takes half of the levels on the played hand and randomly distributes them amongst the other levels

[indigo cedar]

Specific rank and suit

Ex. “Must play scoring 9 of Clubs to beat blind”

[shrewd escarp]

So like the "All cards are debuffed until a flush is played" But MORE EVIL

☠️

[indigo cedar]

I have other rly evil ideas but they’re already in Cryptid concepting lol

[shrewd escarp]

All cards are debuffed until a Queen of hearts is played

Theres no way you'd win unless RNJesus was there

[plush heath]

the flush has to be discardd

not played

[shrewd escarp]

thats what I meant mb

What about one that replaces all jokers with random ones for just that fight?

[indigo cedar]

I have a similar idea in Cryptid

But even crueler

[shrewd escarp]

whats Cryptid?

[plush heath]

unabalnced mod

[indigo cedar]

Vermillion Virus - 2x base; Replaces a random Joker with a different Joker after each hand played

[shrewd escarp]

OH that one

[plush heath]

im playing Very Cruel challenge with Cryptid enabled rn

[indigo cedar]

The one where we had to raise the highest number the game can handle because it’s so broken

[shrewd escarp]

I feel like ALL jokers being replaced at the start is better, instead of replacing one at at time

[indigo cedar]

Yeah but then you usually just lose
Especially with the Cryptid meta being very joker-focused

[shrewd escarp]

But have it a later game fight, so it really screws you over

[indigo cedar]

It’s a final boss

[shrewd escarp]

Not if you have alot of poker levels

like ante 4 or 5

[indigo cedar]

Another really cruel one from Cryptid

[plush heath]

i feel replacing all jokers is too luck based

[indigo cedar]

“Ashen Mountain - All cards are drawn face down. High Card hands don't score.”

[balmy bridge]

you just lose because

• if you get non scoring jokers fuck you
• if you get scaling jokers they start at 0 so fuck you
• if you get other scoring jokers they probably have no synergy with your build or give not enough scoring

[shrewd escarp]

so its not too punishing

[shrewd escarp]

ay yo

[balmy bridge]

"just get planets lol" is not a valid argument imo

[plush heath]

i already have The Mind which is the closest so Ashen mountain you'll get here

[indigo cedar]

This idea was in the September demo: “must play fewer than five cards”
(All the old boss ideas are planned for Cryptid too)

[plush heath]

must play 4 cards is defintely not getting added here tho

[shrewd escarp]

Can I get link for Cryptid?

[plush heath]

why u stealing my customers /j

[indigo cedar]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1219749193204371456

It’s fun with both

lmao

Wait this one is so cruel

Why is it not even in as a final boss

“The Rule: 2x base; Played poker hand must be [hand]; changes every hand”

[plush heath]

which one?

[indigo cedar]

(In Cryptid doc)

[plush heath]

wh...

so are you suggesting ideas or just talking about Cryptid?

[shrewd escarp]

16 new stakes
30 new decks
43 new jokers
5 new spectrals
4 new bosses

DAMN BROTHER

[balmy bridge]

cryptid shilling session

[plush heath]

i should make a cruelty tier list for these

to decide if the mod needs more tame cruel blinds or extra cruel blinds

[indigo cedar]

Not even up to date

“Automatically play a 5 card hand at the start of round, 1 Hand”
Another really cruel one I should add to Cryptid from its suggestion box

[balmy bridge]

oh hey servant of wrath + the needle

[plush heath]

so like are these suggestions?

[indigo cedar]

Not rly

I’m just reading the highlights of what I find that are rly cruel

From https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit

[indigo cedar]

This is the only one from the suggestion box, the rest are planned to be implemented

[shrewd escarp]

Got 2 new ones

• Shuffle jokers after each hand played
• Reduce multi x chip value earned by x% after each hand

[plush heath]

joker order really isn't important enough for that to be a blind, and it goes against the principle of normal blinds not effecting jokers

[plush heath]

#16, im defintely gonna buff it

[indigo cedar]

Noice

[plush heath]

This feels weak honestly

[indigo cedar]

It’s like a buffed wheel

[plush heath]

All cards blocked >:)

[plush heath]

blocked cards only show the blocked text once every time they are scored.

imma raise this to 3 in 4, oops all 6 users are so dead.

[lusty token]

lol

Ig blocked cards are simply a more cruel version of face-down cards

[plush heath]

yeah

i should make a challenge about it

also gonna change the name to clouded

and the boss blind to The Mist

[balmy bridge]

i have been summoned

[plush heath]

lol

changing name to The Myst /j

[devout mountain]

The Myst: All Discord Pings are debuffed

[plush heath]

not gonna put 1.0.0 version on github yet, but i will send a zip file at link in in the main post

expect that soon

yup, this blind is defintely where it belongs

[fair condor]

the 0.9.8 one actually works pretty well on 1.0.0 lol

[plush heath]

but the two new blinds will also be released

[devout mountain]

so is clouded just facedown

[plush heath]

no

they remain face down when you play them

[devout mountain]

oh

[plush heath]

and you mult and chips are hidden while scoring

[plush heath]

and you don't get to see exactly how the card gets triggered (you do get to see retriggers though)

2 new blinds, github coming soon maybe. 1.0.0 ONLY.

[plush heath]

wait...

i think i accidentally removed the entirety of The Steal effect

[fair condor]

hey so i made the separated loc file using steamodded's loc file dumping, also made localization in simplified chinese for this mod. you might want to empty all 16 loc_txt tables in the lua and delete the function SMODS.current_mod.process_loc_text() in it to make it work

[plush heath]

nice, ill check it out later

im still testing before fixing The Steal literally not doing anything

[fair condor]

ye alright take ur time

[plush heath]

i had a level 9 flush, then The Reach happened.

[plush heath]

if i get around to finding reliable translations for all the languages ill do it. but thanks for providing a simplified chinese translation.

[plush heath]

whoops, lovely injection for The Steal wasn't done correctly.

[fair condor]

okay. thats alright

anything else you made change to aside from the toml? imma just paste changed files into the folder on my end so i dont have to delete the loc_txt tables again

[plush heath]

lua file had some changes

changed the internal name of The Mist to mist instead of lens

added some name ='s to blinds that needed them

[fair condor]

okay

[fair condor]

crash on

if area == G.hand and (card:is_suit("Clubs", true) or card:is_suit("Spades", true)) and not blind.disabled then

of The Day boss blind

said card is nil

[plush heath]

k I’ll check it out

[plush heath]

this doesn't seem like something on the mods part, card is supposed to be passed to stay_flipped

u sure it's not a Steamodded error

[fair condor]

im using the latest commit of steamodded

[plush heath]

im guessing it's bugged

or they changed something without documenting it

[balmy bridge]

SHIT I KNOW WHY 😭

😭

[plush heath]

Is that Steamodded code?

cuz I don’t think I wrote that

[fair condor]

thats lobotomy code

[plush heath]

oh

[fair condor]

thanks for patrolling every posts here 24/7 and this is a compliment

[balmy bridge]

i enjoy lurking in my 300 modding threads

[plush heath]

oh dear

i fell like cruel blinds cover all the bases in terms of blind variety, so i need to create new bases to cover.

13 is just a weird amount of normal blind

*blinds

[mental nebula]

An error occurred when I was engaging the Sink.
When I click a card, I crashed instantly.

And SMOD has updated some functions about blinds recently.
Maybe your mod have to update as well.

[plush heath]

and ur sure it was my mod

cuz u got a lot of mods loaded

[fair condor]

it does needs an overhaul for the recent update

[plush heath]

darn unstable versions.

[fair condor]

just remove each and every blinds from parameters of each function for every SMODS.Blinds and change blinds to G.GAME.blind

[plush heath]

you sure that's it

[fair condor]

like function(self, blind, card, from_blind) to function(self, card, from_blind) and and not blind.disabled to and not G.GAME.blind.disabled and thats all

thats it

[plush heath]

k

[fair condor]

ive done it for some blinds so i can play lol

[plush heath]

im just not gonna update my steamodded

gonan wait until it's like more stable

[fair condor]

not me having 31 mods from both 1.0.0 and 0.9.8 and some of them have already migrated to adapt the blind change so i gotta do this

[balmy bridge]

i wouldn't have done it if bunco hadn't done it first

[plush heath]

i simply cannot be bothered to keep up with an unstable build

ill probs update the 0.9.8 version on GitHub soon

[fair condor]

sooner or later you gotta do it fam thats life 😞

[plush heath]

i mean, i don't

not sure why there is such a big push to update to an unstable version

[fair condor]

nah i mean the blind change

no way it'll be reverted right

[plush heath]

i mean i don't HAVE to

[plush heath]

i wouldn't bet on it

[fair condor]

jeez okay

[plush heath]

oh Daring Group is gonna be an inconvinence

[fair condor]

doesnt seem special tho? just you gotta insert a bit more G.GAME.s to it?

[plush heath]

it probably works im not changing my steamodded to test it, i might later tho.

[plush heath]

#17, yes this effect is permanent.

[mental nebula]

Puzzled means it will randomly change rank by +-1 or suit?

[plush heath]

no

Changes to a random rank and suit

Rng was just wierd in the video

[mental nebula]

And thank you for adjustments yesterday, all of them works properly.

[plush heath]

I’m glad

[mental nebula]

The calculation is before or after changing?

[plush heath]

After

Including determining the hand

[mental nebula]

Oh, that will greatly impact scoring😵‍💫
We can only use hanged man or some of spectral card to remove those puzzled cards.

[plush heath]

indeed

[plush heath]

oops.

gonna fix that soon

[balmy bridge]

LMAO

[plush heath]

#1251538877156425738 message fixed

[plush heath]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen any showdown other than common muck in the Very Cruel challenge.

[cloud imp]

Thoughts on a blind that just makes you lose if you win it? Kinda forces you to reroll it using the voucher. Could make the requirement for it to show up being that you need to have that voucher so it's more of a money test. Still unfair but not an instant game stop if you plan for it.

[plush heath]

no i hate that idea

it's an easy win or destroy your entire build to win, it's not fair

alhough there is teh Obscure Overshoot which punishes you for going too much over the score

[plush heath]

leaving The Puzzle with a whole 1 card puzzled.

[fair condor]

got this crash from the latest 1.0.0 version https://mclo.gs/zIrsDyp

upon pressing the cash out button after the boss blind and about to go to the next ante

[fair condor]

ookay dude seems like this old crash ive reported came back to haunt

no idea but havent met the crash for a while till i use the latest update

[fair condor]

nvm might be another mod

[stable yarrow]

cruel stakes

[plush heath]

y'know cruel blinds are already in the pool

[stable yarrow]

okay but what if they werent

[plush heath]

then these would b fun

i thinking of making Common Muck not show up if you don't own a rare/legendary joker

[plush heath]

cower, high card builds.

(no it's not a new hand type, it's judt display text)

[zinc socket]

Does it steal most played hand?

[plush heath]

The Steal make sthe most played poker hand not count as a hand. for example if Flush is the most played poker hand A 7 6 3 2 all of hearts will count as a High Card and K K 7 7 2 all of spades will count as a Two Pair.

high card is a special case, since removing high card can lead to a have not being evaluatable

[zinc socket]

So for the “contains” joker effects, if you remove pair and up, you don’t trigger those?

Like the Duo

[plush heath]

yeah

but just ti clarify in ony removes the one most played poker hand the rest are fair game.

if it removes Flush you can still play a Straight Flush and it'll count

[zinc socket]

It doesn’t turn a straight flush into a straight?

[plush heath]

nope

[zinc socket]

Because it’s a dedicated hand

[plush heath]

yeah

[zinc socket]

This vs checkered deck

Hope to god, hell and then some that you have synergy outside of flush

[plush heath]

i you thin this is bad you should see some of the others

[zinc socket]

Oh golly, like what?

[plush heath]

The Hurdle adds an ante at the start of a round and has the chips of the boss blind of the new ante

it also does the normal adding of an ante at the end of the round.

so an ante is effectively skipped

[plush heath]

a full list starts here

excluding the three more recent ones, if you care i can tell you them rn

[zinc socket]

So you fast track an ante?

[plush heath]

I mean it’s a complete skip, so ig

[zinc socket]

You if you don’t get a flush after your discards, you done?

Maybe “until you discard your most played hand”?

[plush heath]

No if you don’t draw a flush, that sucks

[plush heath]

#18, def delaying this for ante 3/4+

[devout mountain]

straights in shambles

[indigo cedar]

Maybe make it 0x1?

So you don’t need a +Mult Joker/Enhancement to survive

[plush heath]

is anybody REALLY at ante 4 with no additive mult

[indigo cedar]

Would also align more with vanilla level downgrading behavior (back when Arm wasn’t nerfed)

[plush heath]

yeah but The Reach/Arm doesn't hurt people who don't level their hands.

but ig i can do 0 chips and 1 mult

[plush heath]

first time playing Daring Group in a legitimate run, (yes this is Cruelty + Very Cruel)

i lost 75,614/138,408

Also daring group had an error in it so fix coming soon as well as Very Cruel Cruelty

Fire should be on github now as well as the bug fix and The Steal update

[plush heath]

\

[devout mountain]

/

[rancid cloud]

Got that to work!! Nice as I got 14 new blinds to screw with!!!

[fair condor]

getting this crash https://mclo.gs/bSCnaJ4 after using vouchers to go several antes backwards then quit the shop

dunno if its related to stakes from cryptid, where this crash happened

[plush heath]

how would this even be Cruel Blinds

[indigo cedar]

Probably had to do with fractional ante issues

So it’s Cryptid

[plush heath]

        G.GAME.starting_params.ante_scaling```

line in question

[indigo cedar]

Likely get_blind_amount() is freaking out

Will probably change that to floor the number before doing anything else

[balmy bridge]

how the hell did cryptid add fraction ante

[plush heath]

well CruelBlinds DOES do an overide of a create_UIBox_blind_choice

with no patching whatsoever

[indigo cedar]

Misprint deck + Hieroglyph

It should round it though but I’ve seen issues

[fair condor]

also btw seems like fraction hand level can break something in ui.lua?

if self.config.colour[4] > 0.01 then

[indigo cedar]

Also a fix I have to make

Again just flooring it before checking what color to use

Also I need to make it randomize boss values

Wait maybe not (The Psychic)

[fair condor]

oh jeez LMAO

[plush heath]

Must Play 6 Cards

[fair condor]

yea nah when it gets cryptidized its more likely to be 27 cards

[indigo cedar]

Must play more cards than you have in the deck

[fair condor]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

guess i'll just end the run for now. nothing to lose bc i got a -250% blind size scorched girl so

[balmy bridge]

💀

[plush heath]

just updated obscure overshoot boss blind btw

as in bug fixed it

[plush heath]

boutta make another cruel blind

[plush heath]

#19, debuffs half the deck

now here's the cruel part, it's random which set of ranks gets debuffed

[zinc socket]

Either odd or evens

[plush heath]

No

[indigo cedar]

the difference is face caeds aren't immune

[plush heath]

also aces aren't grouped with the odds

[plush heath]

#20'll be a finisher

[plush heath]

#20, literal Run Killer. (it's your least played rank that is mandatory)

[plush heath]

I've decided to nerf Focused Chime, other note about this boss. it cannot select ranks that aren't in your deck at the start of the ante.

[plush heath]

the blind has been released

[plush heath]

#21, imagine this with oops! all 6s

[devout mountain]

that is just mean

i like it

[plush heath]

ty

[balmy bridge]

oh that's just high card gaming

and. i assume. that doesnt scale with oa6

[plush heath]

it does

im probs gonna change it to 9 in 20 or smthng

[balmy bridge]

🗿

oa6 makes it "you literally cannot win lol get fucked"

[plush heath]

you also can't lose

[balmy bridge]

yes you can

deck running out of cards

OH WAIT it returns

nvm

[plush heath]

yeah

#22, cruelty at it's finest

(obviosuly can't show up ante 1)

[indigo cedar]

cruel

like pillar but worse

[plush heath]

ty

[plush heath]

#23?, not sure how cruel it is

[balmy bridge]

your recent blinds have been favored towards High Card

smh

[plush heath]

it is super hard to kill high card builds

i would make it no cards score but i feel like that would cause issues

[plush heath]

I've decided to not care

[zinc socket]

5oak but you only get one polychrome glass red seal whatever

[plush heath]

look at the most recent image

[plush heath]

#24

[balmy bridge]

what's the asterisk for

[zinc socket]

Imagine if it could -1 hand even if you only had 1 hand

[indigo cedar]

Yo this is like that modded run I had where nothing could score because of a bug

[plush heath]

Cruel Blinds V1.2 out

[mild pond]

whats the cruelest of them all

[plush heath]

in terms of hurting basically any build, I'd say Daring Group. although almost any of these blinds cna be devastating under certain conditions

[fair condor]

the tax doesnt seem to be working anymore

[plush heath]

the tax?

the one from Cryptid?

[fair condor]

wait f

my bad lmao thats cringe

[zinc socket]

You can reroll from pain… to pain

[plush heath]

you're welcome

[plush heath]

it's out

start gold staking

[mild pond]

now add 99 new stakes and disable every other deck until all stakes are completed with this deck

[plush heath]

The agony

[plush heath]

well this is probably it for updates, i don't plan on making more cruel blinds

[fair condor]

hey you might want to have a check at #1225831216939536394 message

and after adding a type check i managed to get to the next ante, and its boss blind was Focused Chime, with its first loc var displayed as ERROR

so i guess display accidentally returned a true (boolean) for some reason

aaand i kind of found the cause. it might be a lovely patch issue

[plush heath]

Where?

[fair condor]

or maybe not idk sry

still checking everything

[plush heath]

U sure it’s not mod incompat

[fair condor]

doesnt look like one. yes betmma vouchers overloads localize but its not related, i think

[plush heath]

Lua has overloading?

[fair condor]

nvm i simply mean stuff like

local localize_ref=localize
    function localize(args, misc_cat)
        if type(args) ~= 'boolean' and args.key=='m_lucky' and G and G.GAME and used_voucher('real_random') and args.type == 'descriptions' and not args.loc_vars and args~=G.P_CENTERS.m_lucky then return end
        return localize_ref(args,misc_cat)
    end

[plush heath]

i may see the issue

posting a fix to github now

k should be up

[fair condor]

okay i'll fetch it

[plush heath]

but it's not gonna fix a run that already checked for the least played ranks

[fair condor]

ik that run got ruined earlier

[dim fiber]

i have to scoll all the way back up to the top to get the link

[plush heath]

#1251538877156425738 message

[dim fiber]

thanks

[dim fiber]

IM GUESSING AGGONY DECK IS PURE AGONY

oops caps

[plush heath]

it’s mostly downsides

The only upside is starting with directors cut

[dim fiber]

nice so not the worst dekc ive seen (now

[plush heath]

We’ll see

[dim fiber]

its not i found a worse deck

[plush heath]

Very fair?

[dim fiber]

no imposible deck

il send a screenshot when i die here

gg

[dim fiber]

this deck

[plush heath]

oof

[dim fiber]

i forgot about directors cut

[plush heath]

oof x2

[vivid dock]

Discord's UI is abysmal. Especially the something trying to make itself a forum platform

If you're using mobile you can tap the thread image to display the first post and then jump to it from that, but that styrene do you much good when you need the link to download the mod on your PC, and it innit works is there / is/ a thread image

[plush heath]

#1219749193204371456 message, it does?

[dim fiber]

no i has that one joker the second one that makes all things a 10 if numberd and i disarded a flush 5 and it did nto count

[plush heath]

idk how that happened, ill check it out though

i will say it doesn;t even check the top hand though

yeah i can't say why it didn't work

[dim fiber]

intresting

[plush heath]

probs an incompat.

[dim fiber]

the sink is bugged

[plush heath]

Still probably an incompat

[dim fiber]

rip il just not have it

[crimson oar]

on my iPad I can also touch above the red line to scroll to top anywhere

[crimson oar]

hot tip on PC: copy a link URL from a forum message. Copy paste to make the last number the same as the second to last one. Paste it somewhere and click it.

[plush heath]

bug fix for Talisman compat in most recent

commit

[plush heath]

just had a challenge idea, obscure overshoot is always active.

[plush heath]

it's out. good luck

[burnt ravine]

What exactly does this Boss do?

[zinc socket]

Makes a card randomly pick a suit and rank when played

[burnt ravine]

oh ok ty

[zinc socket]

Permanently

So basically, try to not draw cards

Did the puzzled effect have a visual indicator?

[mental nebula]

Yes, a dark blue stamp-like at the left down corner.

[glacial bloom]

Before the part of scoring that determines what hand you've played, I should add. Puzzled cards are effectively non-cards, at least as far as playing them goes. Either put a Seal or Enhancement that relies on them not being played on them or just destroy them at your earliest convenience.

[zinc socket]

With astronomical luck, you can play the hand you expected to

[plush heath]

one time a puzzled card did randomize into what i needed to barely beat a blind

[zinc socket]

I mean, randomise into the exact same card but yeah that’s some divine intervention

[plush heath]

what if Cruel Stakes

[indigo cedar]

Cruel Stakes would be like each stake is four of Cryptid’s stakes on top of each other

[plush heath]

if i make cruel stakes it would be starting at white stake

[plush heath]

Rude Stake is linear, not exponential

[indigo cedar]

Does it stack across the whole run

If so… oh dear

[plush heath]

yup

after 100 hands there will be double hand size

[zinc socket]

Mean just bleed a 10th of your sell value each round?

[plush heath]

changing to 20%

[plush heath]

50% rate

*4 Discards

[plush heath]

changing to 8

[leaden bay]

Cruel stakes

[plush heath]

yes

and one more is to come

[plush heath]

simple and evil

[indigo cedar]

Looks familiar

[plush heath]

nostalgic stakes

and now they are released

Start Completionist+++ ing

[zinc socket]

Vs flint base stats are x0.4?

[plush heath]

yup, about

[solid aurora]

bro WHATT

[plush heath]

That’s how the blind works

[solid aurora]

i know that now

very fun tho

i have been looking for something to shoot towards since i beat all gold stakes

[plush heath]

Glad you enjoy the mod

[solid aurora]

oh wait

UR THE GUY

HI!

[plush heath]

hi

[plush heath]

It’s been out for about a week. Has anyone beat it yet?

(hyper-precision)

[solid aurora]

i havent done any of the challenges yet

because im trying to beat all the stakes

[plush heath]

What’s your progress?

[solid aurora]

not much, just started recently

[plush heath]

Well, good luck

[solid aurora]

thanks!

[solid aurora]

what

[plush heath]

it's three finishers at once and randomizes each hand and discard

[zinc socket]

Balatro kaizo

[leaden bay]

With only cruel blinds

rerolling ante 8 boss blind with debug plus

[plush heath]

are you 100% sure you have the most recent version?

[plush heath]

death

[devout terrace]

no rerolls 😭

[lusty token]

D&DG having no rerolls at all: first time?

[crimson oar]

Seal's Stake
You cannot sell or remove absolutely anything.(Automatic and forced destructions are stil allowed, including dagger. Also, you can still transform cards.)

Calculated Stake
You must win the blind on your last hand. You must enter the ante 8 boss fight with exactly $0. You must end each round with your money being a multiple of five.

[plush heath]

Fool's Stake is already stupid hard if u ask me

[crimson oar]

maybe these challenges can make interesting seed searching challenges

and I'm sure people are crazy enough to achieve anything

in the demo the all stone run was already insane

[plush heath]

i don't want to really go in that direction

[flat sleet]

I was just testing a change to in_pool where ignore_showdown_check is an option for the function's return values instead of a field on the blind itself, which seems to be causing issues on Common Muck. in_pool is now called when getting the first boss, but G.jokers isn't initialized at that time

https://github.com/Mathguy23/Cruel-Blinds/pull/1

[plush heath]

merged

[plush heath]

I honestly have no idea what is bug is about.

[leaden bay]

It's OK, maybe it's fixed now

[plush heath]

probably not

[plush heath]

updated to add some crash preventions on Focused Chime

[leaden bay]

stake loc_text need to be fixed, aure did some breaking change to it

[timid quartz]

@plush heath sorry for ping but yeah ^

[bright python]

Yeah, I believe this mod is now broken with the newest steam modded update. sad because I really like this one.

[plush heath]

just wait, I'll get around to fixing it

[bright python]

hooray!

[plush heath]

new release, and it works now

[bright python]

@plush heath G.O.A.T

[plush heath]

you didn't need to ping me for that

[bright python]

Oh sorry. Just wanted to show my appreciation.

[plush heath]

i appreciate it

[plush heath]

Stickers now work again

Known Issue: The Steal has no effect

[plush heath]

The Steal is likely getting replaced

[plush heath]

new version, and The Steal remains

[civic cloak]

hyper precision completion by @limber lion

[plush heath]

someone actually did it

[dim fiber]

GG

[plush heath]

don't ping me

i didn't win

[dim fiber]

Oh woop

GG @limber lion GG of the competition

[limber lion]

[limber lion]

i gotta get the stickers working before i try cruel stake

[plush heath]

new commit

[bright python]

Hey im on the latest version of steammoded and this mod is giving me an error

[plush heath]

I highly doubt this is cruel blinds

[bright python]

idk the way to replicate is pretty specific. You have to open your deck while on any of the boss blinds from this mod. Then it throws up this crash.

[plush heath]

Looks like your version of cruelblinds is outdated

[zinc socket]

Randomly determined at start?

Or randomised each ante or smth

[jolly pond]

thanks for create this incredible mod math

[plush heath]

np

[jolly pond]

I WIN

[plush heath]

gg

[jaunty sedge]

hi mathguy really cool mod but getting this error when trying to view the stake information in the 'run info' pop-up; any thoughts? Start a run with mean stake and click 'stakes' and it crashes.

[plush heath]

complain to steamodded

I can't fix this sorry

[jaunty sedge]

ok no worries, just wondered if it was a known issue

it doesn't affect gameplay at least

[plush heath]

yeah

[leaden bay]

a mod conflict i guess

hmm

it's conflicting with luna's enhanced enhancements

what a strange one

[leaden bay]

This is only debugplus and cruel blinds installed

@plush heath can you take a look?

[plush heath]

not rn

[leaden bay]

Take your time

[leaden bay]

bump

[plush heath]

i believe i have fixed the issue

[leaden bay]

ah, I see. thought you forgot

[plush heath]

nope

though i should have ping you when i did it

[leaden bay]

all good

yeah i believe it's fixed!

[iron bluff]

Mathguy, you should add a stake the hides boss blind names & effects until you get into the blind

[plush heath]

no

[sturdy glacier]

bignum fix: line 412 should read (count > to_big(0))
:3

[plush heath]

ty

[plush heath]

you have 176 mods installed, i am not doing anything about this

[leaden bay]

Fair

[leaden bay]

the agony deck instant crashed

[plush heath]

you have 65 mods I am not looking at this.

[glass lotus]

is there any plan to add card sleeves support for the deck this adds?

no worries if not, of course, just wondering

[plush heath]

No

[glass lotus]

cool, thank you much

[vague hearth]

cryptid incompatibility?

specifically when playing hands on the reach

[viral hemlock]

test

[viral hemlock]

Probably Talisman incompatibility

[vague hearth]

like you'd know if you read the log

[viral hemlock]

Cause I also got the error haha and it's similar with the issue that I forwarded in Betmma Mods

[vague hearth]

...

[viral hemlock]

It's a table problem, probably Talisman, but I'm just a noob coder, so...

[vague hearth]

it literally says a function from cryptid's played card evaluation failed to me

[viral hemlock]

Yep, solved it. This is purely because @supple briar teach me 🥲

we have same error

[vague hearth]

well then cryptid and cruel blinds conflict

what can i say

[viral hemlock]

Does this mod add some additional stakes?

How to unlock this one?

[vague hearth]

no idea tbh

i just play with everything unlocked

[viral hemlock]

Just redownloaded the mod, fixed

[vague hearth]

Clueless~1

[viral hemlock]

I sometimes use my time to "modding" instead of playing the mod zzz

modding here mean like checking the mod, etc.

Somehow I ended up making Cryptid stakes contain Cruel Blinds stakes, hopefully this doesn't broke anything 😭

[shell roost]

hey guys, do you know how I would go about adding cruel blinds stakes to other modded stakes? (in this case, bunco stakes)

mean stake for instance doesn't look to be applying the bunco-modified gold stake

[viral hemlock]

#1220084296346501201 message

I have done it, but I havent properly tested it. So, I think CB stakes looks more punishing, maybe Bunco first then CB. But if you want CB first then Bunco, then in Bunco's Cyan stake lua file, you should modify the Cyan stake to apply the "cruel_mean" in the applied stake code.

[plush heath]

is it's own seperate line

any in-game behavior otherwise is a bug

[viral hemlock]

Hello, so does that mean it's impossible to mix the stakes? Cause I dont get what you mean.

[plush heath]

oh i missed the context

ignore me

[viral hemlock]

The Steal is probably not working, just info. Nice bosses!

The boss is really cruel 😭

[plush heath]

I doubt that, but I’ll look at it

[viral hemlock]

The Sink is also probably broken, I'm not sure if this caused by my mods setup or Steamodded.

Is The Bin automatically trigger the discard?

[plush heath]

Can you describe how these blinds are broken

[plush heath]

Yes the cards should be removed immediately

[viral hemlock]

I will try to reproduce video if possible.

But is the mod working fine with only the latest SM? Maybe it's my mods causing this issue.

Also, is The Register refund discards the card? Cause iirc it actually shuffle the card back in to the deck in the older version (maybe).

[plush heath]

I’ll have a much easier time fixing the issue if you tell me how The Sink and The Steal are broken

[viral hemlock]

The Sink: When I discard a Flush. I still can't play any Poker Hand.
The Steal: If the condition say "can't play Flush," Flush is indeed still playable.

[plush heath]

that's not how the Steal workds

it should have made your flush not be a flush anymore though

[viral hemlock]

But is the mod currently working as intended in the recent Steamodded?

[plush heath]

well i'll check

but it worked last time i checked

[viral hemlock]

Because if the fault is from my mods only then that is from my side

[plush heath]

Sink works fine

Steal as well

and The Bin

and The Register

unless steamodded di a breaking change very recently it's mod incompat

[viral hemlock]

CruelBlinds 1_0_0 is the latest one right?

v1.4.0 from Github?

[plush heath]

Always get the latest commit

I’m only make releases every so often

[plush heath]

At least with my mods

[viral hemlock]

the second one right?

Wait

I forgot which version I have
UPDATE: I'm trying to redownload the mod from this discord link which is changed 2 weeks ago

cause I have two links to the mod somehow

[shell roost]

getting the error where mean stake doesn't apply gold stake, is there a way to fox this?

maybe this is a galdur issue let me check rq

nah even without galdur the previous stakes are still not applying when I am on mean stake or above

I additionally get this bug when trying to start a run with the agony deck

[viral hemlock]

Originally, Mean Stake only applies white stake I think.

Try to change the applied stakes section to gold in your cruelblinds.lua, I haven't reached the stake yet so maybe it works.

[shell roost]

Oh I see

So change applied stakes to "gold" and it should be good?

[viral hemlock]

try, I'm also a noob coder

[shell roost]

that didn't seem to work

I am a noob coder aswell 🧐

[viral hemlock]

the original is white right?

[shell roost]

correct

even when it's in it's regular condition however, only the mean stake shows up as being applied in galdur

[viral hemlock]

Can you show your ss of that Mean Stake? I'm curious

[shell roost]

like when i go to select it in galudr?

[viral hemlock]

yess

[viral hemlock]

Hmm, interesting

[shell roost]

cruel stakes stakes still stack

[shell roost]

now that's a tongue twister

[viral hemlock]

Try to redownload the latest version and try again?

[shell roost]

try changing the code again?

[viral hemlock]

Are you getting that from JA?

[shell roost]

this is the version of the mod I am downloading

and i'm using the 1.0.0 file

yup after a fresh install that issue still occurs

[viral hemlock]

Cause my Mean Stake is very high, but I haven't tried it yet

[shell roost]

I see, so you managed to get it to work with cryptid stakes?

[viral hemlock]

Download from code

Yes, but I'm still struggling even in Cryptid stake lol

I just unlock this to see

[shell roost]

yeah

cryptid stakes are nuts

ohhh sick installing the most recent code version now seems to be correctly applying white stake

sick

oh nice and that version of the code makes agony deck work aswell

[viral hemlock]

Yeah, I also get an old version before from JA modpacks, but I try to redownload the file and I can see the Mean Stake error is gone.

[viral hemlock]

Only 2 mods with DebugPlus, Steamodded BETA, new run. I accidentally tested The Sink.

[plush heath]

wdym beta

[viral hemlock]

The new version after alpha I guess

[shell roost]

how do you guys deal with "the puzzle" 😭 it's so tough

especially bc it triggers after I play the hand so it like invalidates whatever hand i'm tryna play, should I just not play puzzled cards?

otherwise I really love how dramtic and intense these blinds are

when I first saw this one I was like :o and had to retool my build a bit

[viral hemlock]

Ngl, some bosses are really cruel I'm thinking of banning them. I remember The Puzzle is working but somehow it's not working on my side as right now. It randomly changes the suit/rank, right?

[shell roost]

yes, but when you play a "puzzled" card it changes AFTER you play it, but before you score which can invalidate the poker hand you're playing

so effectively like you can never reliably include them in poker hands

[viral hemlock]

Yep, sounds cruel enough to me. Cause I will lose to that boss unless my Jokers are pretty strong.

[plush heath]

And they are permanent, lovely right

[shell roost]

honestly the only part that really gets me is that it changes after I play but before I score so like they are not reliable at all

[glacial bloom]

Yeah, if they made it still count as the hand you played but had the cards that no longer apply to it not score instead that'd be a bit more balanced. As it is, Puzzled cards are too unfun to deal with.

[shell roost]

I agree

At least there are ways of disabling certain boss blinds using various mods/code tweaks

Puzzled cards changing the poker hand when you play them is a bit ridiculous imo lol

It certainly lives up to the mod name though

[olive beacon]

does it add stakes

[plush heath]

yes

[olive beacon]

downloading that

[olive beacon]

W, got me on 4 pages of stakes

ty

[plush heath]

np

[shell roost]

Have you beat the game with all of em on yet

[olive beacon]

currently my game crashes 💔

gotta check if its because of cruel blinds or nah

[shell roost]

Haha

Do you have a mod that lets you choose individual stakes at once?

[olive beacon]

no

[shell roost]

I've been looking for something like that that would let me get like, the rental jokers of gold stake but without the -discards of blue stake

Ah it's ok

[olive beacon]

nopee its cuz of other mod

smh

ts pmo

ive tried removing each mod i had 1 by 1

and the game crashed every single time.

[open finch]

@plush heath What does The Fool do?

[plush heath]

-1 Hand*

*forever

[vague hearth]

would be clearer if it was actually written there

[plush heath]

Yes

[dim fiber]

https://discord.gg/2T5K2rJTcZ

[open finch]

Where github?

@plush heath Is it meant to look like this?

[plush heath]

get the latest commit, not the latest release

unless you are using oldcalc

in which just use the CruelBlinds_1_0_0 folder

[topaz bridge]

my friend made this retexture of the final stake in this mod for my own modpack. We call the stake "All in" (cause every single stake is activated) just thought id share it here if anyone else wanted to use it. Its the one on the bottom left

also i went into the stakes code from the mod and added the same shine effect gold stake has. Pretty cool when you combine them together

i can also provide the stikers too if anyone gives af

[robust phoenix]

I've made a wiki page for the mod on the balatromods wiki here:
https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Cruel_Blinds

The initial page is complete aside from the linkportal's images

[plush heath]

Only the Puzzled Deck requires Cryptid, not the modifier

But cool

[full patrol]

I know this thread is dead but I just stumbled upon it and I think the concept is really funny

Some random ideas:
Boastful Blender - All +chips, +mult, and xmult change to an equivalent relative amount of one of the other
The Ground - All +chips are disabled
The Sky - All +mult is disabled
The Cosmos - All xmult is disabled
The Spirit - All retriggers are disabled

[plush heath]

I don’t plan to add more blinds to this mod

[vague hearth]

crash on the reach

[plush heath]

update Cruel Blinds

[vague hearth]

how weird thought I had the most recent version