Joker Evolution

[south sand]

This Balatro mod gives an evolution to a few jokers, each with their own evolution method.

Contains an API as well as an example mod to create your own evolutions.

Inspired of Fusion Jokers by itayfeder.
Thanks to MathIsFun for the help!

Documentation and release: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution

[thin abyss]

sick

[clear kettle]

the evolverrrrrr

[ember quest]

Yay, I've been waiting for it

What jokers can evolve?

Oh no! It's 1.0.0! I can't download it!

[south sand]

There's 10 jokers (+1 with example mod) that can evolve, you can find out which one when hovering over jokers in "Collection" or anywhere else.

[south sand]

Why not?

[ember quest]

A weird bug

[south sand]

If you got issues with SMODS you can always ask here https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209564621644505158

[ember quest]

Last time I tried I almost blocked balatro

[ember quest]

I already filled 5-7 channels, always the same result (failed). But dw, doesn't matter anymore. As long that I can play with 0.9.8 mods I'm happy

[thin abyss]

[south sand]

Chick :)) 🐤

[south sand]

Had to do a hotfix push because ||Raised Fist|| evolution condition didn't increase properly (release is updated as well)

[thin abyss]

[clear kettle]

that feels like it can go infinite

[thin abyss]

yea, but you have to sell 2 jokers to do so, and you it scales the same as the egg. but I am open to other effects for chick

[clear kettle]

i don't mind it, just an interesting possibility

[south sand]

I'm glad you figured out the API without my help 😄

[tulip goblet]

DNA into RNA???

[ember quest]

yay!!! I've 1.0.0 now. I can download this mod now!!!

[ember quest]

why are evolved jokers not scalable

[south sand]

Wdym

[ember quest]

lemme screenshot

I thought joker evolution was jokers you can upgrade by using $. Is bordel a 1-time use?

[south sand]

I don't get it, do you expect to unlock them permanently?

[ember quest]

no

Hard to explain. Is joker evolution just already existing jokers with a bit more power?

[south sand]

So basically if you hover over ||Chaos the Clow|| you can see a tiny box telling you how it evolve, when you can evolve it it shakes and an "Evolve" button appears that replace the joker with its evolution

But to answer your question yes

[ember quest]

oh

but when?

[south sand]

When you fully reach the tiny box condition

[mellow comet]

Do you have anything that can display the evolved cards and their effects/needed Jokers? Also, this kinda sounds just like Fusion Jokers but with extra steps.

[ember quest]

Ye

Chaos the clown don't want to evolve!

[south sand]

Yes, on jokers that can evolve theres a tooltip for that

Also fusion jokers is a huge inspiration, made sure talk to Itay about it and he gave me a thumbs up

[south sand]

Did you reroll fifteen time with the joker in hand?

[ember quest]

in hand? In joker slots?

[south sand]

Yes

[neat harness]

Cartomancer evolution condition is not updating for me, otherwise mod has been working great!

here's my loaded mods

[south sand]

Ty, will give it a look

[south sand]

Yikes lmao

I love unsing consumables too

Repo and release has been updated with the fix

[south sand]

I've added documentation about how evolution work and a list of jokers that can evolve to the github link for those who are confused.

(also pushed version 1.0.0e to do badge transfer, sorry)

[haughty tundra]

||randez vous|| creates these weird spectrals, you cant select them however you can drag them around

also perkeo???

[south sand]

Weird, ||Rendez-vous|| does emplace the consumables, its the same code as the original joker so I don't see how it could happen, does it just do it or you have to do something specific? Also show me your mod list

Ok nvm I'm stupid I found the error, I emplace the wrong card... Will push a fix asap

https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.0.0

@haughty tundra

[haughty tundra]

👍 cant back out the game cuz talisman bug

[south sand]

Yea fair it was just to let you know

[cedar ridge]

how do I update my thing to 1.0.0? I was trying but I kept getting errors, lol
really wanna try this mod

[south sand]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started

[cedar ridge]

the latest still says 0.9.8 for me

[south sand]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/tree/main Scroll down and check for "How to install the Alpha"

[cedar ridge]

I got this

[south sand]

Which lovely version do you use and where did you put the version.dll?

[cedar ridge]

it is possibly the lovely version at fault, as I'm using the same version I downloaded for 0.9.8

if installing a new lovely is required, which version do I get? It says beta 0.5.0 is most recent, but at the same time it says that 0.9.8 is the most recent for steamodded, so I want to make sure

[cedar ridge]

got it working by downloading the 0.5.0! thank u!

cartomancer's evolution counter doesn't appear to be increasing btw

I've used 2 tarot cards and it still says 0/10

[south sand]

Weird, I'm supposed to have fixed that bug

Works fine for me, are you on the lastest version of the mod? (1.0.0f)

[cedar ridge]

I might be on the wrong version of the mod, lol, hold on, I'll check rn

yup wrong version, lol, was on 1.0.0c

[chilly bridge]

@cyan ingot this is perfect for dragon ballatro, whenever you get off break that is

[chilly bridge]

soo...

would you happen to have a splash evolution yet

[cyan ingot]

what's up?

[chilly bridge]

joker evolution mod

this will work well for dragon ballatro

[cyan ingot]

ah ok

I still don't fully understand 1.0.0 yet, so for now I'm just gonna do effectless jokers for archived

[south sand]

Not sure what upgrade you could give to Splash 😅

[chilly bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ui-goku-ultra-instinct-stare-serious-gif-14446720

clearly you don't know who I am

[south sand]

I do in fact

You're the splash girl from Fusion Joker

[chilly bridge]

Splash Evolution | Wave
Requirement: Score 25 unique cards
Effect: Unscored cards are scored twice.

[chilly bridge]

i'm almost done too

3 jokers left to fuse

[south sand]

Sounds interesting

If I ever add more evolutions I'll keep this one in mind

[south sand]

5 new evos coming soon, as well as 1 other joker related to this mod.

[thin copper]

lessgoo

gigajimbo 1 - 5

[south sand]

lol

[chilly bridge]

something compels me to evolve every joker

[tulip goblet]

what would be jimbo's evolution?

[chilly bridge]

Biblically Accurate Jimbo
Defeat 2 Boss Blinds
+10 mult. Gains +5 Mult when Blind is selected.

[south sand]

Btw @chilly bridge the current batch in the screenshot above contains a Splash evo

[chilly bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/int-super-saiyan-3-goku-super-saiyan-2-ssj3-ssj2-dragon-ball-gif-10331688945059052055

[south sand]

I can make a google spreadsheet if people wants to suggest evolutions, not sure how people set up theirs.

[chilly bridge]

do that 🙏

[south sand]

Kinda wish I could just slap the joker names into a column, one by one is tedious..

Actually nvm I'll just be lazy

[south sand]

Evolution suggestion sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sMWNsNLwQosa1YO3P12aCBSMHtNTiyH2QbOfgbGzSro/edit?usp=sharing

[mellow comet]

[south sand]

@haughty tundra I forgot the "Original Joker" column that I deleted, you can add a name to the evolved joker if you want

[haughty tundra]

alright👍

[south sand]

Left some dev notes to the suggestions in the sheet, feel free to answer back in this thread.

[chilly bridge]

yes a card counts each time it is scored
seltzer retriggers every card once so if you play 5 card hands for each of its 10 hands it lives

then you can score up to 100

but it will die after the last hand

so you have to score an extra 9 by means other than seltzer

[south sand]

Oh wow

If you get no other retrigger or something the evolution isn't achievable?

[chilly bridge]

nope

it's a universally very powerful effect so i think it's fair

the number of face cards for headhunter 🤔 maybe 30 would be better

that's lower and a multiple of 3 and 10 so it rounds out for faceless' effect and it looks nice

[chilly bridge]

i'm so mad

i got

crooked joker from your other mod

and i forgot about it

fuckin

i STILL CAN'T SEE THE OBELISK EVOLUTION

i never get it when i have an evo

it destroyed the evo i was gonna get

[south sand]

That's so sad lol

[south sand]

New small update, includes better evolution behavior, a new consumable and a "Clenched Fist" condition buff.

Changelog:

New evolution behavior:
-Jokers that have an evolution will now have a greyed out "Evolve" button instead of nothing
-Evolutions have an improved animation and stays in their position when evolving
-Evolutions no longer trigger "calculate_joker" adding or removing card context
-Evolutions cannot be triggered during specific events similarly to the "Sell" button of a card

New "Evolution" spectral consumable (no art yet):
-Evolves a random Joker, destroys another random Joker

Balance change:
-Clenched Fist:
  -Condition: 50 -> 30

Download: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.0.1

[thin abyss]

I can do the art for the spectral card, unless you want to do it. I've recently felt like make spectral card art

[south sand]

Feel free too if you wish to, you'll be given credit ofc. Also if you feel like doing more tarot/spectral cards art, my other mod needs some too 😅

Here, if you don't have the asset yet

x1 and x2

[thin abyss]

How does this look?

[south sand]

I think there's a bit too much yellow, also it would be nice if the brain was a front view instead of a side one, otherwise this looks great!

[thin abyss]

How do this look? (front and side view)

[south sand]

Yea the front view looks good I really like it, tysm!

[thin abyss]

I've got a few different backgrounds as well just pick the one you like the most then I'll post the file for it

i'll fix the white pixels on the blue front backgrounds if you chose one of those ones

[south sand]

Mmmh I hesitate between those 2

Think you could mix the lighter and darker blue?

Id like to try those two in-game if you have them available

[thin abyss]

yea, heres the files for those two and one with light & dark blue (also i fixed the white pixels)

[south sand]

Looks very nice 🙂

What do I credit you as? Your discord username or anything else?

[thin abyss]

my discord works i tend to use it as my name for most things

[south sand]

Very well, thanks again for the art. If you ever want to do more consumable sprites again I have another mod that needs some

Updated release with the new sprite: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.0.1

[mellow comet]

It won't have a chance to destroy the Evolved Joker, right?

[south sand]

Of course

That would be way too evil lmao

[thin abyss]

I assume for this mod? https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228825966940393483

[south sand]

Yup, if you're interested I can send you the placeholder

[thin abyss]

yea

[south sand]

Hf

Oh I never noticed the white pixels..

[south sand]

@exotic axle This and...

[south sand]

This too please

[south sand]

Ty again 👍

[fair mulch]

#1255696773599592458 message

A crash happened

[south sand]

If you have 1.0.1 I recommend updating it, apparently a function I removed was still being called, sorry for the inconveniences. https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.0.1

[chilly bridge]

👀

[rancid basalt]

Hi! I've made a PR to add support for #1241580123766128761 :))

[south sand]

That's cool! What's up with the empty line in Buffon?

[rancid basalt]

I usually leave the main line free from anything that's not some kind of modifier or something that varies with poker hands. It's mostly so anyone can hide any extra info that might be irrelevant
If it has an edition the edition modifier takes over that spot

(with this reasoning space joker should also have that line empty but that has to do with a mod bug that I need to fix)

[south sand]

Ah I think I understand

Updated https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.0.1

Smh still shows as 1.0.1c

[chilly bridge]

soo

if you sell a phantom (betmma edition) evolved joker

with the upgraded phantom voucher

which tries to create a joker of the same edition as the sold joker when you sell a phantom joker

the game crashes when you sell a phantom evolved joker

[south sand]

Do you have the crash log

[south sand]

New release, its mainly for code restructuring but also to improve the "Evolution" consumable

Download and changelog: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.0.2

[mellow comet]

So...when are we getting the DeEvolved version of this mod, lol?

[humble cape]

Hmm... maybe tomorrow if it's as easy to do as DeFused was and I get around to giving it a go

[mellow comet]

[humble cape]

So looking at the mod in more depth, I think I'd be able to do it, but I snap kinda wanna wait and hope for more interesting evolutions. Most of them are utility jokers, which aren't by any brands bad, but just don't l enthuse me much. Atm I don't feel like I'm missing out by not having them, which was the drive for DeFused

[south sand]

Hello, I've made a big update this time, adding 5 new evolutions as well as 1 Joker related to the mod's theme and some balance changes. This update also fixes crashes with other mods (hopefully) such as that one Cryptid code card or Betmma phantom voucher

Download and changelog: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.1.0

[SMOD 1.0] Joker Evolution

@polar blade (I know you were excited about the update so I'm letting you know it's here just in case you miss it)

[mellow comet]

@chilly bridge SPLASH EVOLUTION DETECTED.

[south sand]

Sorry had to put an hotfix cuz ||Collector Joker|| wasn't working properly

[humble cape]

Some nice new evolutions here that are more my speed, DeEvolved may just happen yet (but probably not until there's another couple evos I really like)

[south sand]

No need to ruin the magic yet lol

[humble cape]

Lol. fair. Sorry if you feel in any way insulted by my weirdness

Also I should clarify that the evolution mechanics seem really well thought out and designed, I'm just a greedy bastard who wants more jokers with no strings attached

[south sand]

Smh you just want it the easy way /j

[humble cape]

:P

[polar blade]

Hey, thanks for the notice 😄 I will definitely check it out soon!

[chilly bridge]

@south sand the splash evolution isn't incrementing its evo condition

wait

my splash isn't working at all

it's not scoring the unscored cards

how did I break splash

wait i think you broke splash

splash is still broken without my mod loaded

wait nevermind

splash just doesn't work for me

even without your mod loaded

okay sorry about the ping it's nothting to do with your mod

[chilly bridge]

@south sand your splash evo code has a logic error

[south sand]

I saw that in your thread yea

[chilly bridge]

yeah

there is a way to grab the cards from the original hand though

so i think there's a much more elegant way

[south sand]

Wait it wasnt the flush 5 thing?

[chilly bridge]

1. you wrote "shorcut" instead of "shortcut"

2. it should be four fingers and not shortcut anyway

[south sand]

??

Well I feel stupid

[chilly bridge]

3. it always assumes you play 4 card straights and flushes if you have four fingers

anyway there's an easier way

if you call local text,disp_text,poker_hands,scoring_hand,non_loc_disp_text = G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info(G.play.cards) you get the non-splash hand as scoring_hand iirc

[south sand]

Cool

[chilly bridge]

calculate = function(self, card, context)
            if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
                local text,disp_text,poker_hands,scoring_hand,non_loc_disp_text = G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info(G.play.cards)
                for k, v in ipairs(scoring_hand) do
                    if context.other_card == scoring_hand[k] then
                        Soakedflag = true
                        end
                    end
                    if Soakedflag == false then
                        return {
                            mult = card.ability.extra.mult,
                            card = card
                            }
                    else
                        Soakedflag = false

this should work

i am testing and it seems to be working

it's technically the same effect except it now makes each extra played card give +5 mult when scored rather than the joker itself giving +5 per extra played card

rather than the joker itself giving +5 mult per

i'm going to settle for this but you could probably convert it back to the old effect

[chilly bridge]

@south sand is this mod still broken with evolving modded jokers

[south sand]

Yes

[chilly bridge]

can you fix it

[south sand]

I'll try later today or tomorrow

You can start working on modded evos if you want, but the tooltip might not show up

[south sand]

@chilly bridge Fixed for the next update

[chilly bridge]

:D

[south sand]

New update to fix a few issues with the mod. The changelog is available on the release page. JokerDisplay compat for the recent evolutions will be done eventually.

Download: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.1.1

@chilly bridge

[chilly bridge]

:D

[south sand]

Joker Evolution

I've made an update that changes how rarity badge are handled by evolved jokers, it is done automaticaly and no longer needs set_card_type_badge. if you made evolved jokers, you need to remove that function to avoid having 2 rarity badges showing up on your evolution.

https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.1.1

@thin abyss @chilly bridge Pinging you two about it because you're the only persons I know who made/are about to make joker evolutions

[chilly bridge]

:D

[south sand]

@lucid stratus What crash did you get?

[lucid stratus]

it was a while ago so I couldn't say the specific conditions or mod interaction but it was can't index a nil object (Evolution_tooltip_object) error

[south sand]

Huh

Won't hurt anyway to push it 🤷

[south sand]

New mod release that reworks the rarity system, changes badge behavior and adds a mod config.

Requires the latest Steamodded version

If you used this mod to make your own evolutions, please remove the set_badges function from your evolutions.

Next update will modify pool behavior between the joker and their evolution as well as a JokerDisplay update for jokers that misses one.

Changelog and download: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.0

[south sand]

New mod releases that adds the promised pool behavior change, missing jokerdisplay defs and other improvements. I also cleaned up the localization to better suit recent standards.

Changelog and download: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.1

[south sand]

Pushed a Wildfire crash hotfix: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.1

[left wharf]

i can see the button for evolve my joker but the condition doesn't appear, do someone have a solution for this ?

[south sand]

Which version of the mod, SMODS and lovely do you have and what other mods do you use?

[south sand]

Can you zip your "Mods" folder and send it to me?

[south sand]

I've experienced it myself and after a while I finally pushed a fix to tooltip not showing anymore, sorry for the long delay
https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.1

[chilly bridge]

uhh

pilot's license isn't giving any xmult and I think I know why

if card.ability.passport_tally > 0 and card.ability.passport_tally % 4 == 0 then
doesn't this mean it will only calculate the xmult if passport tally is between 1 and 3?

in which case it never gives any xmult because it's for every 4?

yeah changing that line to if card.ability.passport.tally > 3 fixed that

i'm not really sure what the % 4 = 0 part is supposed to do, all it does is make it not give any xmult if the tally is below 4

[south sand]

I'll look into it ty

[south sand]

Wdym by it doesn't give you any xmult, like it doesn't increment every 4 enhanced cards or it doesn't give you the xmult when scoring?

Works fine to me

[chilly bridge]

it displays that it currently has 1X mult, and it doesn't give any xmult when the hand is played

[south sand]

Can you enhance a bunch of cards and show me the joker tooltips?

Lemme update smod see if it broke something

[chilly bridge]

i haven't updated smods in a while

[south sand]

Works fine on latest smod too

[chilly bridge]

I don't really know what happened during that run that caused pilot's license to break

but it seems like it was run specific?

[south sand]

Do you play with Cryptid? The only theory I have is that somehow the tally got misprinted or something

[chilly bridge]

I had two pilot's license hooked to each other, mario and furnace

they were both negative and had no value modifications

21 cards enhanced, and it said X1 mult and gave X1 mult

it was on the hieroglyph deck + sleeve

and I didn't have any tier 2 vouchers yet

[south sand]

I'll blame it on Cryptid 🤷 I know they always have issue with misprinting

[chilly bridge]

they weren't misprinted

[south sand]

No but like

I remember a time where values would be misprinted nonetheless

If you try a new run they work fine?

I'll try and enhance more cards see if it breaks

[chilly bridge]

yeah in a new run pilot's license works fine

the only other thing of note that happened that run was hammerspace

which is how i got driver's license to 16 to begin with

re-entering the run breaks the hooks but not the joker values

I had a screenshot of this but it didn't save I guess

oh no here it is

I also had whitesnake, which had the gold edition stored, I made that joker it shouldn't be fucking with pilot's values

[south sand]

Smh Marie you trying to break my mod?????? /j

[chilly bridge]

penetration testing

it's a thing where you try to break/break into a system to test how secure it is

anyway it decided not to work during that run

[south sand]

Hopefully it was a one-off

[chilly bridge]

hopefully

[south sand]

A small update has been pushed to fix an issue with evolution condition tooltip I discovered by accident, nothing too bad but at least there's no bad surprises:
https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.1

[south sand]

@chilly bridge Ah crap I'm getting the issue...

[chilly bridge]

okay it wasn't a one time thing

that makes me feel less crazy

[south sand]

crying

[chilly bridge]

what does the % do as a lua operator

is it like the remainder of dividing

[south sand]

Started a new run and it works fine

[chilly bridge]

please tell me you saved the previous run or something

[south sand]

I have 0 clue wtf is triggering this issue, the Xmult gets updated trough its update function

[chilly bridge]

we could've compared the similarities

[south sand]

No 😔

[chilly bridge]

damn it

can rule out a few things

it's nothing to do with hook or the negative edition, since yours has no modifications

[south sand]

I'm gonna put a bunch of debug message with that, next time it happens, I'll see what's up

[chilly bridge]

what deck/sleeve are you on

[south sand]

Wheel of Fortune from Autumn with Sandbox Sleeve

[chilly bridge]

okay it's probably not the deck then 🤔

i'm like

90% sure the fault is the % operator?

it does return the remainder and the condition in pilot's license makes it only give xmult if the remainder is 0

and that only happens if the passport tally is exactly divisible by 4

in both cases, the tally was not divisible by 4 at the time it happened

[south sand]

Mmh, prob that, I need to check it out

I'll try to do this asap cuz I got a meeting soon

[chilly bridge]

if card.ability.passport.tally > 3 is prob better for what you want it to do

[south sand]

Ok but I had more than 3 enchanted cards tho

Doesn't seem like it has to be divisible by 4 exactly to give Xmult

[chilly bridge]

that's what stumps me about it, because you did write
if card.ability.passport_tally > 0 and card.ability.passport_tally % 4 == 0 then
as the condition for it activating

which logically speaking means it should never give xmult unless it's an exact multiple of 4 enhanced cards

but it's only not doing that sometimes?

[south sand]

Ok hold up I just found out something

I started with a pilot license at the start and it incremented, same in the collection

I enhanced a bunch of cards and discarded a lot, and added a new pilot license who glitched out

[chilly bridge]

does pilot's license use any globals that could interact with the second one

in my run I did also get a second copy of pilot's, but both broke

[south sand]

Ok I figured out the glitch, if you get the card when the tally isn't divisible by 4, it glitches out until you make it divisible by 4

[chilly bridge]

okay then yeah I think you should just change it to if card.ability.passport.tally > 3

that should solve it

[south sand]

I'll give it a try, thanks

Yea that does the trick, will push the fix, thanks again for the help

Here it is: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.1

[fair mulch]

Crashed somehow

[south sand]

On launch?

[fair mulch]

I was clicking on random joker

[south sand]

Do you remember which one?

[fair mulch]

i don't remember

but they definitely won't evolve

[south sand]

Oh the mod's outdated, try updating it

I recognize the error I fixed it today very recently

[fair mulch]

ok

[south sand]

Small update to add and correct small things:
https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.2

[ionic plover]

you got a list of jokers you haven't done evolutions for? because i'd love to help with some art i've done already

[south sand]

Any jokers that isn't in the mod. You can make your own mod using the JokerEvo's API 👍 For example someone made an evo to Egg, don't feel bad if you wanna do an evo to a joker that already has one. The mod has a config to disable preloaded joker evo made in JokerEvolution

So like if you wanna do your own Obelisk evolution go ahead

[ionic plover]

I do have a few, I wanted to make my own evolution type thing with XP but I feel I'm just overcomplicating things and should just maybe come here instead

[south sand]

Ye again it's an API, feel free to use the mod as a dependency to make your own stuff. It features an example joker with thorough instructions 👍

https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/blob/main/data/example_joker.lua

[ionic plover]

ah i see...

[south sand]

Just understood why you're interested in it 😄 https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1335109835653644288

The art is nice

[ionic plover]

Thanks! I'd be happy to give these to the mod though, I'm not a master coder or director, plus these seem like they'd fit perfectly with the others

[south sand]

I'm sorry I'm way too lazy to work on JokerEvo content, plus I'm too focused on my main mod. Perhaps you can find another dev to use JokerEvo's API and code them for you.

[ionic plover]

I definitely could do that... I'm not able to program an evolution for EVERY Joker I'd want, but I could certainly try to make these 4 work...

[south sand]

I won't code it for you but if you need any pointers or help don't hesitate to ping me

[ionic plover]

thanks!

[chilly bridge]

hey shadow
long time no see
i could help out with code
i haven't played around with the API for this mod much but it can't be too different from fusionjokers surely

[ionic plover]

sure, sounds good

we could probably start with like, the easiest joker to implement which is ERROR.lua, which basically misprint with XMult

[ionic plover]

want me to DM?

[chilly bridge]

if you wanna sure

[south sand]

Ok small poll, I'm working on a Joker Evolution update that implements new functions, notably improving the evo condition count so that, for example, it can be modified on add_to_deck. To avoid confusion, I'd like to replace the "0" by a "?" while the Joker is in collection or shop so that I don't get "why does it say 0 when I have done it x times" questions. Do you prefer it as "0" or "?"?

(Note that when the Joker is in the joker area, the ? will be replaced by a 0 or x)

(Unless I find the solution afterward, I can't replace ? by x for technical reasons before you ask)

[chilly bridge]

what do you mean so it can be modified on add_to_deck

[south sand]

like

add_to_deck_evo = function(self, from_debuff)
  --blabla modify evo cond
end,

Similar to calculate_evo

[chilly bridge]

oh i see

reminder that add to deck is self ,card, from_debuff then

[south sand]

Yea I typed it quickly dw it's not like that in code

[chilly bridge]

speaking of other features

couple things been on my mind when using the api

[south sand]

Yea?

[chilly bridge]

1. can you make a function to make the evo condition reduce
2. can you make a function to set the evo condition to a specific value as an argument
3. is it possible for a joker to have multiple evolutions and thus multiple conditions where the condition you fulfill dictates the evolution?

that last one would be pretty cool

branching evos

[south sand]

By evo cond you mean the one the player has to increase or the goal?

If first, 1 and 2 exists

[chilly bridge]

wait actually

what are the function names

[south sand]

Card:decrement_evo_condition and Card:set_evo_condition

the first one defaults to 1 without a parameter

Example

calculate_evo = function(self, card, context)
    if context.reroll_shop then
        card:decrement_evo_condition()
    end
end,

[south sand]

3rd one might be too complex for me

Btw with the way I coded it, if you use set_evo_conditions, remember in the code it goes from card.ability.amount to 0, so say if you want to add 2 to the counter, it's card.ability.amount - 2

Example with a recent one I made

add_to_deck_evo = function(self, card, context)
        card:set_evo_condition(card.ability.amount - ((G.vouchers and #G.vouchers.cards) or 0))
    end,

(I should really make a Wiki page for the mod's github..)

I forgot why I made it decrementing tbh

[chilly bridge]

fair enough

[south sand]

Pushed a update to add utility stuff and a few fixes, contains API breaking change! (See the release link) https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.3

@chilly bridge (Since you're concerned I'm pinging you, dunno if there's any other JokerEvo dev, I should make a discord with a pinging role for that)

[chilly bridge]

noted

will update api stuffs later im getting sidetracked casually at the moment

[south sand]

Fair, just wanted to warn you 👍

[south sand]

Good I don't have to push a "b" version

[chilly bridge]

i'm running into some kind of bug with fusionjokers and joker evo?

a joker here that has a fusion with splash but also an evo

displays the fusion cost as nil

and cannot be fused

but has a fuse button

[south sand]

Does the fusion work without JE?

[chilly bridge]

the fusion doesn't work on the evo'd joker

it shouldn't be able to fuse with the evo'd joker

[south sand]

Oh you're making a fusion off an evolved joker

[chilly bridge]

no

i fused credit card with splash in tsunami

but i've also got a credit card evo here

i'm guessing since you made it count as the original joker or smthn, it thinks the credit card evo can be fused

i've got two copies of it, one of them states the correct fusion cost and the other one states nil fusion cost

but they can't actually be fused even with more than enough money

[south sand]

Why? Doesn't the fusion check the key of the joker first?

[chilly bridge]

no idea

maybeee

[south sand]

Does your credit card evo has a different key/name ?

[chilly bridge]

the fusion button gets carried over?

when you evo it

[south sand]

Oh

Odd

[chilly bridge]

its a purely visual bug so it's not too bad

[south sand]

I wonder if you change a joker that can fuse using set_ability it keeps the button too

[chilly bridge]

maybe

[south sand]

If you fuse a joker that can evolve does the evolve button stays on?

[chilly bridge]

no since it creates a new joker

and it doesnt count as the original joker

[south sand]

Yea sounds like an issue with the Fusion mod tbh sorry

[chilly bridge]

noted

[south sand]

Some recent SMODS changes broke the "Ripple" joker (this card loves to be broken I swear), I've pushed a fix: https://github.com/SDM0/Joker-Evolution/releases/tag/1.2.3

[chilly bridge]

first time ever getting this fuckin thing

it took 12 handsize

[chilly bridge]

@south sand adding info queue for a joker with an evolution (splash) applies the info queue for the evolution condition

this doesn't happen with decks for some reason, my jokers never used this tooltip until right now when I decided to add it 5 minutes ago

[south sand]

I thought I prevented that

[chilly bridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[south sand]

If you have a normal card that has an info_queue of splash does it show the evolution thing too?

And not a fusion

[chilly bridge]

it happens on my tarot card

don't mind the sprite being fucked up i'm gonna fix that rq

i don't have any non-fusion jokers

[south sand]

I'll look into it

[chilly bridge]

alright

i used info_queue[#info_queue + 1] = G.P_CENTERS.j_splash to apply them in case that means anything

[south sand]

Man

[chilly bridge]

splash

[south sand]

Does it appear on your screen too?

On the main menu

Nvm I think it's due to one of my mods

[south sand]

Well I got that one issue fixed tho, gonna push it soon

@chilly bridge Good to go 👍

[chilly bridge]

i just wanna note

maglev train feels absolutely awful to play with

i tried to send a message but

discord erased it?

what

oh

i have this setup going for early game (the picture got deleted it's bullet train + holo egg + iconic icon)
it was scoring 3300 highcard before evolving
and then after i evolved it's scoring around half as much
it feels terrible that it switched from chips to mult and while i was too early in the run for it to screw me over, it did not feel like an evolution and felt more like a joker swap

i can't swear at all now???

god dammit

i think it would be better if it either got its condition lifted or added an additional chips boost

either like +200 Chips on first hand of round losing the discard condition, always a strict upgrade
or Each joker gives +100 Chips on first hand of round before discarding (this also scaling with joker number makes it better into midgame)

[south sand]

Huh, I'll think about it

Defo not doing the first option, I ain't make a Common evo better than a Rare

Did you have any XMult jokers btw

[chilly bridge]

no it was ante 2 or 3

i had used 1 hieroglyph

oh yeah and

joker voucher evolutiion bug

I evolved it during a pack, and it ended the pack

[south sand]

Lmfao

sneaking in

[chilly bridge]

i don't know why it did that

and i do not remember what pack it was

I think it was a DX arcana pack from dx tarots?

i might be wrong

[south sand]

Can you try and see if it happens in a vanilla pack?

I'm too tired to do any more testing/coding rn, would help alot

[chilly bridge]

when is zombie joker getting an evo though

this guy is my goat

[chilly bridge]

after this run i will

[south sand]

1 in 4 chance to self destruct

[chilly bridge]

ultimate combo right here

zombie joker, a sell effect, and d4c

i get $33 and 3 death tarots every round

-# honestly this one is d4c's fault

-# d4c is unfair

[south sand]

d4c procs treasure chest?

[chilly bridge]

d4c creates copies of sold or used cards

up to 3 per round (5 when evolved)

[south sand]

Bruh no wonder zombie joker is cracked

[chilly bridge]

zombie joker is already cracked

but this just makes it even more insane

[south sand]

Yea but as far as I remember most of the example you've given me were due to crossmod combos

[chilly bridge]

oh yeah, and this guy showed up.

oh god.

[south sand]

Every modded jokers leads to Zombie Joker

[chilly bridge]

i sell treasure chest and it makes 2 extra treasure chests and I get 2 deaths per chest sold

so every round I get 12 deaths

and $132

all thanks to zombie joker baby

aw yeah! this is happening

oh and

the duped chests have a size bug

i'll forward that to riff raft

the uhh the thing that is making zombie joker 4 in 3 i can't show yet

it's an indev thing

[south sand]

I feel like this is out of my responsability

If zombie joker's this crack

If it was purely SDM_0's Stuff w vanilla would you still pick Zombie Joker?

[chilly bridge]

yeah probably

every time i find zombie joker i just

find everything else that makes it broken as shit

it feels like there's so much that can break it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

inconclusive

anyway, bugs

[chilly bridge]

it does

[south sand]

Darn

[chilly bridge]

in mega packs, it reduces the choices by 1

so that's the bug

the game thinks you're getting it from a pack

[south sand]

?

Lol

[chilly bridge]

That might be something caused by betmma vouchers actually

[south sand]

Oh that's odd

Can you try w/o it?

[chilly bridge]

betmma made voucher packs

[south sand]

Ik

oh

[chilly bridge]

and they act weird compared to other packs

i think it is their fault

[south sand]

Good

for me, not for them

[chilly bridge]

alsoooo

you can't have more than one Joker Voucher Voucher

i redeemed 3 of them and i only have one of the voucher

they might stack

i'll check

they stack. okay

5 vouchers would beee

X4.5 3 times

yeah they stacked okay

[south sand]

I'm so good (I probably did nothing)

[chilly bridge]

removed all the betmma mods

it still happens

[south sand]

Guess that's not good for me then

[chilly bridge]

yeah you gotta fix that

[south sand]

I'll try tomorrow

If I'm not busy/drained by work

[south sand]

@chilly bridge Fixed

[lone pendant]

This are excellent

Oh man I had to search for this up and down but finally found it, this is such amazing mod it idea so awesome that could not let it just sit here. I had to say please give us miracle and get few more

[south sand]

This mod was mostly made in mind to be an API rather than a content mod but thanks!

[lone pendant]

Well let me tell you, thank you. I would really appreciate some more evolutions

[south sand]

I have no idea who Sharps-off is but thank you for making a github account just to enhance the art of this mod.

[lone pendant]

Like I was even wondering if you interested in doing some cross modding with the evolution idea

[south sand]

What?

[lone pendant]

Like have Joker that evolve that from other mods, you know cross modding

[south sand]

Ooh, that's up to other mods

[lone pendant]

Do you think we well ever get more evolutions?

[south sand]

Idk, its not a mod that took off and crossmodding was popuralized way later. When you think about it there aren't a lot of fusions too from crossmodding FusionJokers.

[lone pendant]

Ya but now there ton mods floating around, some old ones have been revived. So I figure why not revived either of them

[south sand]

I'd rather put effort in my current projects rather than this one, sorry

[lone pendant]

Ya probably the only one barking at this to continue, what other project you have?

[south sand]

My main mod is this one: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228825966940393483

I got a few misc mods that don't add much and another mod in progress about making your own jokers

[lone pendant]

Oh boy that bald you to add 3 effects

[sleek wagon]

OMGGGG

reminds me of mega jokers

[south sand]

Of what now? 🤔

[sleek wagon]

a concept i plan on adding to the hachet mod

[south sand]

oh

[sleek wagon]

https://youtu.be/n3TFdNQv5Ao

[south sand]

I'm going to point the obvious but is it inspired by pokemon mega evolution?

[sleek wagon]

yes

[lone pendant]

Don't know enough about Pokémon

[lone pendant]

Talking about mega evolutions if I were to take a crack at this try modding some more evolutions, would that be ok?

[south sand]

This is an API so ofc it's fine

[lone pendant]

Actually silly question what API stand for

[chilly bridge]

application something interface

or maybe just application interface

i think

[lone pendant]

Thank you
I find fascinating that this mod was created from someone being inspired by Fusion Jokers and now Balatro Fusion a totally different mod is out there too

[thin abyss]

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