candid ore
Using my hyperfixation on Jojo's Bizarre Adventure to get into Balatro Modding (and coding)
So far I have a spreadsheet and like, 1 1/2 completed cards, if that. It's still pretty early on.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-YcvJgzDRXeU2yl6o4aLee8xQ0Txm9E4qWfCbj7Gyk/edit?usp=sharing
Suggestions and feedback (at this stage) are welcome!
glass wolf
Shine On You Crazy Joker doesn't sound beneficial.
Also I think I'd mostly prefer if the Jokers just had the song names as names rather than including Joker in the name, but YMMV
candid ore
im not completely convinced, though rn its mostly to remind me to make card art with the joker look later on
glass wolf
less cards good, more cards bad
Similarly Joker Secret Technique is… very niche. It's an one-time improved Chaos the Clown, but otherwise it's unlikely to be useful
candid ore
hmm
i feel that
sometimes the fact that there arent consumables that are less themed makes having specific ideas kind of janky
though it feels a lot like a variant on luchador
maybe i should make it sell
glass wolf
It's already sell
glass wolf
I don't understand Your Next Line Is…'s flavor with Wild Cards, but I think making them all suits is less headache inducing
candid ore
mm mm
glass wolf
I can't think of an effect I'd be satisfied by for it in Balatro, at least not right now
candid ore
it used to be an x mult, but i wanted at least one card to have that palette shift due to shock like the anime does
and thats prob the best fit
glass wolf
Maybe an Araki Joker that just recolors cards lol
I tend to like niche effects in Balatro but the ones that care about specific Tarots are super niche
candid ore
mm
i didnt wanna go overboard on part 3 rep but it was a thing i wanted to bolster given its presence in that part
glass wolf
Speedwagon Foundation could care about Tarots and have a specific effect that cares about Wheels
glass wolf
I was suggesting it to make it less niche
candid ore
eeh
ill be real too, while balance and viability is there, i tend to design for concept mostly
what feels the most fitting given the source
i think originally the speedwagon foundation gave money instead, but that also felt like it was real common too
speedwagon bankrolls and supports with nary a cost barrier (though the joestars do make bank in turn)
glass wolf
I don't think the outcome is the issue, just the frequency
candid ore
truuue
plus adding like "bolsters wheel drops" text would probably bloat the box at this point
unless its an unsung passive, but people out of the know wouldnt know
yeah i might go for that
glass wolf
You can add a single cryptic line
I have "(any cows -> more cows, more cows -> better milk)"
The Whole Joker is interesting but I wonder if it could be more…
Like, what if you could type a Tarot name and get that one?
candid ore
hmm
glass wolf
Or maybe just get a Mega Pack
candid ore
its plausible
im also thinking of giving it instead like a j geil joker that has an added perk
or maybe having hol horse also bolsters hanged man and tohth cards
glass wolf
The idea behind my suggestion is Hol Horse being a sharpshooter
So he shoots a specific card
candid ore
maybe it destroys a random card in your deck if the emperor is pulled again?
glass wolf
If Anubis were a Joker, it could have a Cerulean Bell type of effect. As a Tarot, +1 Mult to a single card is too weak IMO
glass wolf
maybe it destroys a random card in your deck if the emperor is pulled again?
I just don't like that much personally
candid ore
...yeah no. i feel you now
im prob not gonna do tarot spawning offhand, but sharpshooting...
glass wolf
On the other end, Harvest is quite strong. It's better than Castle
candid ore
its a damn snowballer
candid ore
On the other end, Harvest is quite strong. It's better than Castle
and good i never use castle
glass wolf
Castle has a high ceiling but it can be difficult to get there. Harvest is just ceiling
glass wolf
If Anubis were a Joker, it could have a Cerulean Bell type of effect. As a Tarot...
I think Osiris is a bit weak but hitting two cards and/or increasing the bonus makes it better. Like +15 to two, maybe?
candid ore
sounds fine to me
glass wolf
Milagro Joker is probably too strong too
I don't know if it's per hand played or remaining but it can be circumvented by winning in a single hand
Finally, the art for He Never Married looks phenomenal. Great job
If you want, I have my own spreadsheet for mod planning in case you want to take a look
candid ore
oh, thank you! and sure im down to look
glass wolf
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UPY0gkdOC2bTvIS_oalf7baka5LepqIXEwjI8JJx5Lo/edit?usp=sharing
candid ore
I don't know if it's per hand played or remaining but it can be circumvented by ...
im confused too? the only hand affected part of milagro is the hand size
glass wolf
im confused too? the only hand affected part of milagro is the hand size
What about the "currently" text
candid ore
oh! yeah
thats vestigial back when it gave a increasing rate per blind
it was gonna scale up but doubling it felt easier
candid ore
oh
hmm
ill rewrite it but its essentially like
after all money is doled out, this joker would just give you that total amount again in a flat chunk of cash
on the blind win screen
candid ore
oh, no wait
it was basically a increading rate
yeah "Earn $X at end of blind, X is doubled per blind beat, Every $10 owned gives -1 hand size"
candid ore
Bumping this since ive been thinking over this as of late again
Still been struggling to figure out a good representation of a Gold Experience ability
I was thinking maybe making gold cards indestructable or un-debuffable, but those feel way too niche of properties, even for my ideas
Maybe something where gold cards bolster other cards in a hand?
Oh
Joker gives X/5 chance to boost the played hand type, X = amount of gold cards played
Could also go for gold cards held in hand too, depends if doubling down or varying playstles feels better
Esp since holding already gets you money
onyx sorrel
well hmm
gold experience Joker based on the one time he punches Bruno and it slows down his perception of time
It gives you X-Mult but as long as you have it it force sets your balatro to the slowest speed setting available
but yeah I do like the idea of gold cards maybe boosting hands or preventing debuffs
since Gold experience can heal and revitalize
@candid ore Wait wait I just had an idea
if it empowers gold cards
It would have a funny synergy with a (Midas) mask
and a vampire
appropriate for Giorno...
candid ore
see
its not that i dont like that
but its more like trying to find something appropriate AND gels well with that playstyle
onyx sorrel
valid
I only just discovered that this thread existed so I will cook more
onyx sorrel
ye
on Mobile so it's a bit hard to contribute but also I sleepy
candid ore
fair enough
glad otter
this can collab with joker evolution for MADE IN HEAVEN
candid ore
joker evolution?
glad otter
a mod that allows jokers to "evolve"
candid ore
huh
seems up the alley
plus itd honestly make the coco jumbo ones work smoother imo
glad otter
can't wait for all the tusk act jonklers
requiems could also be evolutions of certain jokers
candid ore
unreasobale idea for made in heaven
XMult based off of set game speed
real idea for made in heaven
Gain + X1 Mult per round played (since obtaining card)
glad otter
what if every time it triggered it increased the game speed beyond its limit
candid ore
feasable, but id rather it just be some insane snowball effect
candid ore
Honestly thinking what the best legendaries might actually be
I picked risotto cause hes actually jester themed, but theres no others to fit that trend
Past that i just thought about the most powerful ones, hence avalon for kars
mental thicket
you shouldve invited me to this smh