ante ni li pana e toki ante pi toki pona tawa musi Palato. ona li pini ala. taso, mi wile pana e sitelen tan ona
this mod adds a toki pona translation to balatro. it's not finished but i wanted to show some screenshots
#musi Palato a!
tribal glen
civic quarry
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once i finish the sitelen pona translation it shouldn't be hard to write a script that converts it to sitelen lasina
tribal glen
at some point i might try and remake the font so it's um. better
nasin nanpa looks kind of weird here
glacial thunder
noice im new to learning toki pona (almost 2 weeks) so i guess I could use this as a learning practice
cloud umbra
im really curious to see how you handled some of the translations
like what is "the magician"? jan nasa?
or like
the hierophant
hell i dont even know what that means in english
oh its like an ancient greek priest
so like jan sewi pi tenpo pini?
tribal glen
the tarots are:
open sin
jan majuna
lawa sewi
jan wawa
lawa jan
jan sewi
jan olin
jan tomo
[Justice]
[Hermit]
[Wheel]
[Strength]
[Hanged]
[Death]
cloud umbra
death is impossible to translate unfortunately
ah you just used a nimisin for magic lol
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[Temperance]
jan mani
jan pini
suno mute
suno ante
suno suli
[Judgement]
suno ale
cloud umbra
fair enough i suppose
tribal glen
majuna is a nimi ku suli for 'old'
the ones in brackets i just haven't gotten to translating yet
cloud umbra
i feel like theres a fairly popular nimisin for magic ive heard
i mean death is easy obviously
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usawi
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the font i'm using doesn't let me use nimi ku lili though :(
the way tarots are named is a little odd
jan X is used for enhancers
suno X is used for suit changers
lawa X is for the ones that create a pair
everything else is just a pair of words
all of the spectrals are kon X
cloud umbra
thats interesting, i like that
so hermit cant be jan something
and death has to be two words
justice is a hard one to translate
tribal glen
death and hanged might both be moli X
cloud umbra
just make death "moli a" lol
tribal glen
honestly? maybe
cloud umbra
i mean its 2 words
tribal glen
justice could be pona utala i think
cloud umbra
thats a bit weird but i dont think anything other than utala works better
tribal glen
all of them are kind of weird because of the restrictions i set up
but i think it works out
cloud umbra
maybe judgement could be like "pilin lawa" or something
since its clearly talking about like god's judgement lawa makes sense but you cant have it first because of your restrictions
'judgement' meaning like 'decision' is a hard word to translate and idk if pilin works
tribal glen
yeah that works i think
cloud umbra
strengths gotta be like lawa sijelo right
its gotta have lawa because it does 2
or am i misinterpreting your restrictions
tribal glen
lawa is just for priestess and emperor
cloud umbra
ah
tribal glen
bc they both make 2 consumables
tribal glen
i think wawa sijelo should work
cloud umbra
oh shit i totally forgot wawa was a word lmfao
its been like 2 years since i spoke any tp
temperance is interesting
cloud umbra
i was thinking ala nasa
if you interpret nasa as drunkenness
temperance is like not drinking right
cloud umbra
nasin ala?
tribal glen
i was going for 'an absence of wants'
cloud umbra
so like ala wile more than wile ala
tribal glen
that works i think
cloud umbra
but like its not that you dont have wants, its that you arent giving into them
tribal glen
hmm
cloud umbra
"the devil" as jan mani is funny
tribal glen
nasin pona?
cloud umbra
makes sense given the cards effect but jan ike is so obvious
tribal glen
"the devil" as jan mani is funny
it helps that mani has devil horns
cloud umbra
true the sp is good
i feel like temperance is tied up with religious values so nasin sewi could work
like the 'holy way' or w/e
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nasin nasin
cloud umbra
ah like in past tense
that makes sense
what about like moli anpa
since when youre hanged you fall
cloud umbra
thats good
hermit could be like insa mute or smth
idk if thats a proper use of insa
and also that could mean "20 kidneys"
tribal glen
i'd read that as 'really inside'
cloud umbra
i guess im thinking of hermit crabs lmao
cloud umbra
is "open sin" good for the fool? i mean it explains the card description but not the name of the card
should be like ala sona
or sona ala
tribal glen
it fits with the card's actual meaning tarot-wise
tribal glen
i'm using that for ouija :(
cloud umbra
it fits with the card's actual meaning tarot-wise
ah im not aware of those
tribal glen
it's the same reason that i have tower as jan pini
cloud umbra
oujia has to do with like ghosts right
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the tower symbolizes endings
cloud umbra
so like kon moli or smth
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i have that for ectoplasm :(
tribal glen
actually i could switch ectoplasm to kon telo
cloud umbra
lon?
tribal glen
maybe ouija -> kon toki and sigil -> kon sitelen
cloud umbra
kon toki is good
and i take it youre treating the planets as proper nouns
because they are
mun X
mun Tupita
have you done jokers yet?
tribal glen
the spectrals are:
familiar: kon poka,
grim: kon ike,
incantation: kon nimi,
talisman: kon mani,
aura: kon suno,
wraith: kon musi,
sigil: kon sitelen,
ouija: kon toki,
ectoplasm: kon moli,
immolate: kon seli,
ankh: kon jasima,
deja vu: kon tenpo
hex: kon pakala,
trance: kon sona
medium: kon lukin,
cryptid: kon soweli
tribal glen
have you done jokers yet?
i think a third?
maybe half title-wise
description-wise probably a quarter
cloud umbra
i would love to help if you could give me a list of those still left
and also what youre using for common terms
"chips", "mult", "card" etc
tribal glen
"chips", "mult", "card" etc
chips are sike, mult is wawa, cards are lipu
cloud umbra
oh i didnt know you were using sp totally
whats the plugin or w/e i have to have to render those?
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jokers are lipu musi, tarot are lipu nasa, spectrals are lipu kon, planets are lipu mun, vouchers are lipu esun, playing cards are lipu meso
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whats the plugin or w/e i have to have to render those?
you'd have to download the file and a uscur sitelen pona font
i'm using nasin nanpa https://github.com/ETBCOR/nasin-nanpa
tribal glen
i'll write a script that converts sp to sitelen lasina
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did it say why
cloud umbra
its trying to parse a comment
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this is the one i'm using
tribal glen
does it work if you delete the line?
cloud umbra
i accidentally installed a 2016 version of ahk
cloud umbra
okay now it lets me edit
can i just say arranging the version on the install page in order of oldest to most recent is malicious
still throws an error
and it also gives an error if i remove the line
tribal glen
what does it say
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does this run?
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no that's just a testing script
cloud umbra
oh lol
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it was to fix my broken keyboard
cloud umbra
interestingly it does get 160 lines down
cloud umbra
no it isnt because you still have the first two lines
my line 163 is
:*?: ;::{U+3000} ; logograph fullwidth space
but it does say 300C
weird
tribal glen
maybe just comment out all three lines
cloud umbra
whats the comment char?
tribal glen
semicolon
cloud umbra
god ahk is jank
well it seems to run without error
what do i need to do to use it?
tribal glen
open up the nasin-nanpa.otf file
and hit install
you might have to restart your computer but it should show up in whatever text editor you're using
cloud umbra
do i need to put the ahk file you gave me anywhere specific?
cloud umbra
hmm, still doesnt render the characters in notepad...
i restarted my pc
its probably fine, ill just translate without it and you can make a program to transcribe or whatever
what are you using for discard? weka?
and what about "round" and "blind"
j_sixth_sense = {
name = "sona pi luka wan",
text = {
"{C:attention}luka nanpa wan{} pi musi",
"li jo e {C:attention}6{} wan taso la, o moli e ni",
"o pali e lipu {C:spectral}kon{}",
"{C:inactive}(o jo e ala jo)"
is this good for sixth sense? not sure if my translation skills are quite up to par
tribal glen
discards are weka, hands are kepeken*, rounds are utala, blinds are monsuta
cloud umbra
oh hands are kepeken
cloud umbra
j_sixth_sense = {
name = "sona pi luka wan",
text = {
"{C:attention}luka kepeken nanpa wan{} pi utala",
"li jo e {C:attention}6{} wan taso la, o moli e ni",
"o pali e lipu {C:spectral}kon{}",
"{C:inactive}(o jo e ala jo)"
tribal glen
the hand played is 'luka kepeken'
cloud umbra
ah
tribal glen
the type of hand played is 'kule luka (kepeken)'
cloud umbra
yea but its about consumable space
tribal glen
yeah i just thought it was worth mentioning
the word hand is kind of overloaded in balatro
i need a catch-all term for consumables
cloud umbra
so youve already done that one? it wasnt in that pastebin you sent
tribal glen
i just typed it
cloud umbra
i did hiker
j_hiker = {
name = "",
text = {
"{C:attention}lipu{} kepeken ale",
"li kama jo e sike {C:chips}+#1#{}",
"lon tenpo kepeken"
}
},
tribal glen
the poki li ala la sina pali ala is on some other cards
cloud umbra
ah that makes sense, more direct
cloud umbra
the sp looks so cool i wish i could get it to work
are you using arabic numerals for like, amounts?
cloud umbra
j_hiker = {
name = "",
text = {
...
i guess maybe i shouldnt use tenpo kepeken for scored
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etc
cloud umbra
seems like "time of playing" not "time of scoring"
tribal glen
i think kama jo e +sike #1# works
glacial thunder
what is joker (reuglar)
tribal glen
lipu musi
glacial thunder
do you just slot that at the end of all of the ones with joker
tribal glen
do you just slot that at the end of all of the ones with joker
at the beginning but yeah
glacial thunder
ok
tribal glen
because "lipu musi" could be "playing card"
i think wheel of fortue is a lipu musi too
tribal glen
but the line has to be drawn somewhere
cloud umbra
its fine
glacial thunder
so like faceless joker would be like
lipu musi li sinpin ala (is that even correct idk)'
tribal glen
lipu meso for 'regular card' is kind of weird but whatever
cloud umbra
so like faceless joker would be like
lipu musi li sinpin ala (is that even corre...
no
tribal glen
so like faceless joker would be like
lipu musi li sinpin ala (is that even corre...
lipu musi pi sinpin ala
glacial thunder
ok ok
glacial thunder
yeah i wondered if to put pi there
cloud umbra
its not really a verb
glacial thunder
it is not a sentence
tribal glen
all of the jokers are noun phrases
glacial thunder
yeah
cloud umbra
or like lipu musi pi jo ala sinpin
glacial thunder
i am not good at toki pona
cloud umbra
but thats just worse
i take it nyx that face cards are lipu meso sinpin
or just lipu sinpin
glacial thunder
Isnt that like just face card
cloud umbra
face paper but yea'
tribal glen
kings are lawa suli, queens are lawa meso, and jacks are lawa lili
cloud umbra
ah that makes sense
tribal glen
it's less literal but i think it might be clearer
cloud umbra
lawa lili lol
glacial thunder
(im going to get a LOT of things wrong)
cloud umbra
would "or more" be like anu mute
glacial thunder
i try to teach my friends toki pona cuz they want to and then they just start saying "unpa unpa unpa unpa"
cloud umbra
easy way to fix that problem is to graduate from middle school
glacial thunder
yeah im gonna do that in a few months
cloud umbra
i wonder if we all first heard of tp from the same place
tribal glen
i think the very first time i heard about it was wikipedia
cloud umbra
j_faceless = {
name = "",
text = {
"sina weka e {C:attention}lipu lawa{} {C:attention}#2#{} anu mute",
"lon tenpo sama la o kama jo e mani {C:money}$#1#{}"
}
},
faceless?
tribal glen
i didn't really learn it until i started watching jan misali's videos
glacial thunder
i heard it from jan misali but i only learnt it because a book im reading in school is about a minimized language and it reminded me of toki pona
cloud umbra
i hate the jokers that are "if X do Y" because you have to reorder everything ack
what is "poker hand"? also luka kepeken?
cloud umbra
yes
tribal glen
i think most of them can be reworded to avoid kule though
i might start changing some of the textures
cloud umbra
nice
hard to distinguish between suli and lili
at that scale
j_todo_list = {
name = "",
text = {
"{C:attention}kule luka{} li {C:attention}#2#{} la,",
"o kama jo e mani {C:money}$#1#{}",
"kule luka wile li ante lon tenpo mani"
}
},
thoughts?
tribal glen
solution
glacial thunder
pareidolia would translate to like all faces or something right (ale lawa????)
cloud umbra
i mean pareidolia is a condition to do with sight
glacial thunder
oh
cloud umbra
so maybe like lukin sinpin?
glacial thunder
well
cloud umbra
thats abstract tho
glacial thunder
i ishould be focusing on the words not the game words thigns
tribal glen
pareidolia is probably nasa sinpin
cloud umbra
that makes sense
tribal glen
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what's the context
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sina kepeken e lipu mani la, o kama jo e __
for all intents and purposes the time of playing and time of scoring is the same
cloud umbra
i suppose thats true
then i need to rephrase hiker
"{C:attention}lipu{} kepeken ale",
"li kama jo e sike {C:chips}+#1#{}",
"lon tenpo kepeken"
i feel like this works tho
(also tbf nobody is going to be installing the toki pona localization without knowing what hiker does)
tribal glen
i just omitted the time thing for hiker
cloud umbra
are we doing the same ones?
tribal glen
lipu kepeken ale li kama jo e +sike #1#
cloud umbra
that feels really ambiguous and makes it seem like they just are worth 4 more chips overall
tribal glen
hmmm
yeah
sina kepeken e lipu la, ona li kama jo e +sike #1#?
i feel like lon tenpo kepeken is redundant
cloud umbra
thats fair
cloud umbra
sina kepeken e lipu la, ona li kama jo e +sike #1#?
i like this
still its hard to distinguish between "when played" and "when scored"
cloud umbra
pana is interesting
yea that works i think
what should I work on btw, i could do challenge names if you havent done those
tribal glen
there's not that much text in baba
i guess level titles
you have to know english to play it though :(
cloud umbra
i meant like a resprite for the words
tribal glen
cloud umbra
thats epic
cloud umbra
mute, mute ala, mute ala mute, mute ala mute mute
(not that)
i mean you could do like quality instead of rarity
tribal glen
i mean you could do like quality instead of rarity
ike, pona, pona mute, epiku
(epiku is half a joke)
cloud umbra
legendary HAS to be kijetesantakalu
please
it objectively makes no sense but its so perfect
tribal glen
sure
tribal glen
that makes sense
tribal glen
hmmm
when the text is done i might go back and try to make a sitelen pona font
one that matches the game better
tribal glen
the game uses round in two spots
but they're named the same
so the first part of "round score" has to be the same as round #
i might add some ui code that gives it a new label
cloud umbra
whats this sitelen?
tribal glen
cloud umbra
ah i see
cloud umbra
o luka li ante?
cloud umbra
i cant understand that
tribal glen
o luka o ante e kule pi lipu 3 tawa leko
o luka o ante e lipu 3 tawa kule leko
cloud umbra
should be like "o ante e lipu san pi lon luka tawa kule diamond"
tribal glen
the o luka is to distinguish cards that let you pick from those that are random
cloud umbra
maybe then just use lipu kepeken for the ones that let you select
tribal glen
lipu kepeken seems like cards you're playing though
cloud umbra
yea but you cant use tarots when youre mid hand
so it isnt really ambiguous
well im gonna leave now but ill for sure work on it later, thanks for letting me be a part of it
tribal glen
thanks for the help btw
i'll credit you
if the github link ends up working you should (?) be able to download and test the mod
cloud umbra
the link works, i made a fork (i think thats the right thing to do idk shit about github)
cloud umbra
alright well i got nasin nanpa kinda working, so ill work on translations for vouchers now.
cloud umbra
there are a few things im unsure about so ill just wait until youre here
cloud umbra
i translated like 5 more jokers and some various UI elements
all of it should be in my fork
cloud umbra
at some point i might try and remake the font so it's um. better
i ended up having to use fairfax and i think it would fit in balatro
cloud umbra
just fyi, im using "namako" for "tag"
cloud umbra
tags are done
tall finch
hiii i found this - i was going to try and make a translation for toki pona but wanted to check if anyone alse has done one
is this finished?
also, i dont think nasin nanpa fits the game super well
id like to make/find a 11px high font instead
tall finch
okay christmas is over im making a font
goin for a style like this, trying to keep a similar feel to the m6x11+ font that balatro uses
tall finch
cloud umbra
hiii i found this - i was going to try and make a translation for toki pona but ...
oh shit, sorry, missed this
no, it is very unfinished