Testing the limits of riff raff

[kindred jacinth]

so im just making this because i wanna see if riff raff can theoretically create itself

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[barren ridge]

riff raff moment

[kindred jacinth]

yeah

[solar pier]

would need showman and riff raff early and then just a bit of good rng

[kindred jacinth]

we have that

im doing a seeded run

showman + abstract + riff raff at ante 1 boss shop

[solar pier]

i wish you good rng

[kindred jacinth]

ok well riff raff is big blind shop but still

[timber oriole]

did i do something wrong 😿 where is showman

[kindred jacinth]

uh

reroll

ok so

[timber oriole]

👍

[kindred jacinth]

get riff raff asap, then get abstract and reroll its shop for showman, thats the ante 1 setup for me lol

ima start a list of what to do from beginning

• Small Blind A1: Play the striaght
• Shop: dont buy
• Big Blind A1: Go for spades flush then diamonds flush

[timber oriole]

so first confirmation from your seed, riff raff defintely can create a clone of a card already in hand

ima keep going though to try and get himself

[kindred jacinth]

Yup! the big question is can it create self tho

i died on i think ante 4

[timber oriole]

im at ante 7 wit hstill no riff raff

played every fight

i could reset back down

[kindred jacinth]

hmmmmm

[timber oriole]

but i DID use a random joker

from a tarot

and got a riff raff that way

[kindred jacinth]

really?

[timber oriole]

Yes

[kindred jacinth]

so its possible to get more than one but (so far) they cant make themselves?

[timber oriole]

well, or this seed just doesnt roll any

[kindred jacinth]

ah

[timber oriole]

its looking grimmm

[kindred jacinth]

im kinda stuck

if you wanna keep testin you can :D

lmk if it makes a dupe of itself

[kindred jacinth]

uh oh

[timber oriole]

no dupes on this seed, but i DID make 3 mistakes

1 forgot to sell both, 1 forgot to sell 1

and i opened random joker packs and found a riff raff, which plasuably altererd the rng ?

[kindred jacinth]

there really aint many mistakes other than not getting enough slots

[timber oriole]

yes, 3 total rolls i missed

[kindred jacinth]

ah

[timber oriole]

i fought every single time

for 9 antes

[kindred jacinth]

if you are doing the same seed then riff raff should always make the same cards

i think it goes per round

[timber oriole]

it does i think you're right

i could have 'missed' the time it would have rolled riff raff though on the 3 rolls i missed

[kindred jacinth]

ima see if i can find another riff raff + showman seed

[timber oriole]

anyway, that seed seems to confirm it can't happen. I rolled a duplicate ride the buss ANd square jhoker

but you can't prove a negative without knowing the game code

[kindred jacinth]

yeahhh

i dont trust myself enough to dive into the code

[kindred jacinth]

new seed dropped
I will be using yellow deck

7XJHUF7U

skip A1 blinds

go for spades flush then diamonds flush

take arrowhead, reroll, take sixth sense

skip twice again

grab troubador and fortune teller from the pack

discard for a 6 while keeping diamonds flush, play a 6, then diamond flush, then straight.

sell all jokers, buy riff raff, use ankh, buy blank voucher

skip, use sun on face cards, use high priestess, skip again

discard anything that isnt a queen or a 5, do not care about delayed gratification

play 4oak 5s