#Four Fingers counted Royal Flush despite consecutive cards not all matching suit.

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radiant belfry
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The Four Fingers joker states that you can form Flushes and Straights with 4 cards.
The Royal Flush description states that you need 5 consecutive cards and all cards need to share the same suit. I assume that with Four Fingers this becomes 4 consecutive cards sharing the same suit.

I formed a hand with:
King of Clubs, King of Clubs, Queen of Spades, Jack of Clubs, 10 of Clubs

As you can see:
I formed a 4-card Flush using any combination of the King of Clubs x2, Jack of Clubs, 10 of Clubs.
I formed a 4-card straight with 10,J,Q,K
I did not have any Jokers that made Clubs or Spades equal, nor did I have any wild cards.
Note that if I remove one of the Kings from my hand, my hand becomes a regular 'straight', despite still having a king of clubs.

The game told me I had a Royal Flush in hand. Since I formed a straight with the Q, shouldn't the Q also be Clubs to fulfill the requirement for a Royal Flush? Now I only have 1 or 2 consecutive cards sharing the same suit. rather than all 4.

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crude hawk
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Not a bug - you have four of the five cards of a straight 10-A and four of the five cards for a flush. That’s a royal flush with four fingers

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This works for any straight flush

radiant belfry
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Yes but the description of a Royal Flush reads that you need 'five consecutive cards and all of them need to match the same suit'
My Queen is part of the '4 consecutive cards' for a straight, but does not match the suit (clubs) for the royal flush.

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If I remove one of the Kings, the royal flush disappears and becomes a regular straight (10,J,Q,K)

crude hawk
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A straight flush is a straight and a flush in the same set. You have a straight and a flush in the same set. It’s royal just because of where it is

crude hawk
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Four fingers modified the requirements so the definition is overridden by its properties

radiant belfry
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Yes but again, the description of Straight Flush reads that I need:

five consecutive cards and all of them need to match the same suit (The consecutive cards)

So there are two conditions:
I need 5 (now 4) consecutive cards.
I need all of the consecutive cards to be of the same suit.

My consecutive cards are 10,J,Q,K. I have a 'duplicate' King.
If I follow the definition of the Straight Flush, and strictly only modify the amount of cards I need.
Then I would need a 10-Clubs, J-Clubs, Q-Clubs, K-Clubs.

10-Clubs, J-Clubs, Q-Spades, K-Clubs, K-Clubs would not be a royal flush because the consecutive cards of my hand (10,J,Q,K) do not all share the same suit.

Four Fingers does not say anything about changing that definition of the straight flush, only the amount of cards needed.

Edit: I wrote royal instead of straight :' )

crude hawk
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Four Fingers impacts the number of cards needed for straights and flushes. A straight flush asks "is there a straight present AND is there a flush present." You do have four consecutive cards for a straight, so the straight is present. You have four cards of the same suit, so the flush is present. Ergo, you have a straight flush.

radiant belfry
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Imho the definition under Run Info is not exactly clear then, but if it is as intended then so be it. :p

The way I understand the definition under Run Info is: Is there a straight and does that straight happen to be a flush as well.

crude hawk
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No worries! It’s a little counterintuitive but definitely working as intended

serene grove
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Could probably be changed to like how Full House is described

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Full House says "a three of a kind and a pair of another rank"

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So maybe "a straight and a flush in the same hand"

radiant belfry
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Exactly, if the behaviour is intended I think the description could be improved.

carmine cove
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i think it's unnecessary. with this logic, shouldn't the description for anything flush related be changed as well since smeared joker and wild cards exist?

serene grove
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A Flush is five cards of the same suit
Smeared Joker says "Clubs and Spades count as the same suit, Hearts and Diamonds count as the same suit"

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So by logically reading both, you can see the connection

carmine cove
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ah right, i see what you mean

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you've convinced me