#January tier list
plush pike
i need more green joker love in this household
zealous narwhal
four fingers A tier. but shortcut is S tier? 😭
cinder pine
flower pot gamers we lost
formal star
They are sooooooo close
zealous narwhal
lol
waxen frigate
flower pot is cool but you need like a build designed for it anf i've been playing a lot of flushes which is not it
but you could probably use it well with runs
pliant berry
FF with a higher average too
autumn stirrup
Superposition and base joker got it rough
formal star
tbh I would've put the trio higher
That's called 'cooking the books'
leaden cypress
expose yourself
waxen frigate
I missed the oppurtunity to make my own tier list in time
plush pike
I missed the oppurtunity to make my own tier list in time
just wont be contributed to the data ofc
past vine
No surprise Seance is in the top 5 most controversial
waxen frigate
hack is kinda meh for more casual runs and if you didn't build your hand aroudn it
pearl knoll
some people love hack because they like the high score life
zealous narwhal
hack is good outside highscores too
pearl knoll
i don't think it's that strong in consistent play
zealous narwhal
for people who like to enhance their cards
leaden cypress
i mean even baseball
pearl knoll
it's good with fibo at least
leaden cypress
1.5x for every uncommon
zealous narwhal
and retriggering potential on scoring jokers
hallow sonnet
superpos done dirty smdh my dang head
plush pike
idk why baseball is contro, but i can undserstan dhack
leaden cypress
how is that b tier for 60 people
zealous narwhal
baseball needs uncommon jokers already
formal star
I can see people thinking that since it does literally nothing by itself it's not as good as some others
leaden cypress
superpos wasnt done dirty its just bad
formal star
But so does Brainstorm
pearl knoll
baseball can either fail or go really hard
hallow sonnet
baseball is dope
mossy cove
Super is great; it's 8 Ball now
leaden cypress
blueprint and brainstorm do nothing by themselves yet they got the top each vote
pearl knoll
i think it tends to go really hard more often, but at the cost of cash support
past vine
Gotta either already have or actively seek out uncommons for baseball to work
formal star
Superpos being 6th most controversial makes me feel vindicated
mossy cove
Super is only for true believers
formal star
The Jokers at the top of the 'controversial' list are more interesting than the Jokers at the bottom
leaden cypress
gotta love how the 4 jokers for suits basically got the exact same results
just grouped together
zealous narwhal
Super is only for true believers
I'm not the one 😭
plush pike
they are identifical, it would be funny if club one is lower cuz of the club
gonna check
waxen frigate
But so does Brainstorm
brainstorm fits in litterally every build though
but yeah by itself its uselss
formal star
Four Fingers and Shortcut being this close blows my mind
leaden cypress
people love straights
formal star
Considering that they accomplish a related goal in completely different ways
plush pike
i feel like thats just good game design if they are rated that close
formal star
No it's luck that it worked out like that
plush pike
makes u feel like u have options for the same goal
hallow sonnet
the club literally ended an amazing run for me it was so tragic
formal star
There is nothing to fine tune about them
zealous narwhal
but what i want is smeared back ngl
15 days left
hallow sonnet
skoottie said on a stream a couple days ago if you collect all the suit jokers they should combine into a giga joker
like xodia lol
plush pike
good game design as in, they are good ideas for jokers
leaden cypress
i guess we wait
north flax
People love consistency, jokers like that are perfect
zealous narwhal
Joker is the 5th
leaden cypress
sounds good
zealous narwhal
jimbo was it all along
pearl knoll
there will be a daily discussion related to this in the future btw
mossy cove
After version 2.0 releases, it'd be neat if there were secret Joker "recipes."
5 Joker slots fills up fast.
pearl knoll
somewhat related https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1198154245250220094
willow kelp
Yeah idk why Super is in D
I can understand C, but it's a pretty good joker now - even more so with the current state of Straights (which are pretty good)
I use it all the time lmao
Guaranteeing tarots instead of tarots + planets is a huge change
Green Joker's also really odd
It's no Bus, but it's not bad enough for C tier
mystic plank
who put different results for the different suit jokers (gluttonous doesn't count because of The Club)
pliant berry
I think I lowered gluttonous to C for that
minor isle
how are hack and baseball so controversial
hack is only good if supported by something like fibonacci or by card enhancements. And it's really good if you have multiples (glass polychrome blah blah blah). But more casual players don't build up the kind of deck manip that's like "yooooo I have 5 glass 2's with red seals". If you're just playing something like a flush build, hack gives you some extra +4 mult from your flush-supporting card.
minor isle
blueprint and brainstorm do nothing by themselves yet they got the top each vote
"this makes whatever's my best joker do its thing twice" is top vote worthy. Some of the other support jokers where you need to have deck manip for them to be good are going to be down a bit in the vote even if they're really powerful.
past vine
I put Blueprint from the previous demo and Brainstorm in this demo in A (and not S) for that reason, they by themselves do nothing
Seeing them first shop is rough
waxen frigate
yeah makes sense
but also you can get them in the first shop (assuming you can aford them) and still live for a bit
past vine
Unless you hit straight flush or 4oak, first 
takes 2 hands minimum.
At least base 4oak got buffed so that any 4oak now one-shots first
feral torrent
I struggle to believe how Reserved Parking ended up in C
fossil sage
we voted Ride the Bus S tier but Green Joker is C tier? I'm confus. Green Joker is basically Ride the Bus but with a different and less punishing downside
feral torrent
There wasn’t as much synergy for no-discard runs in this demo since no Burglar
past vine
we voted Ride the Bus S tier but Green Joker is C tier? I'm confus. Green Joker ...
September Demo had Abandoned Deck
fossil sage
Ride the Bus was S tier even without Burglar
fossil sage
September Demo had Abandoned Deck
that's fair, but also Green Joker's downside isn't "reset to zero on discard", it's -1. And its upside can work with any deck
past vine
But you could also just use discards without asking “but is it worth?”
minor isle
september demo also had a lot fewer xmult jokers, so a big +mult joker was very powerful there
ebon sleet
with ride the bus you could pull for something good, instead of play one pair or lose mult
plush pike
we voted Ride the Bus S tier but Green Joker is C tier? I'm confus. Green Joker ...
this is what im saying
regal wolf
i think invisible is better than brainstorm honestly
copying card editions is what ekes it out
but bs comes right after
ramen below banana is crazy lol
also people sleeping on present joker with swashbuckler
will be great for pivoting builds in the full game
main thistle
what 12 trolls put brainstorm in D tier 😂
past vine
what 12 trolls put brainstorm in D tier 😂
Anyone that had “how much can it do on its own?” as their main criterion
flint pollen
photograph in C 💀💀
hallow sonnet
i think thats where i put it too tbh
plush pike
who is the wily joker stan btw
there is one s tier vote for wily, one person is besties with em
sacred citrus
Hit The Road overrated tbh
icy sentinel
Most everything in S tracks, I think Hack is pretty overrated but ig max scorers do love their retriggers
I'm most surprised about:
- Trading Card (feels mega S to me, even with the money nerf)
- Bull (Extremely strong if you can build a nest egg, especially on Anaglyph. Feels much better to use this than blowing money in reroll purgatory)
- Seance B (straight to D, this doesn't do anything)
minor isle
hack is really strong when paired with multiple other triggers on the same card. Fibonacci + glass + aura kind of thing makes even one card of that type very strong.
Seance is great in a 4 finger / tarot-heavy deck
I think the main reason it's B and not A is just that you can't get it going without support
icy sentinel
I've gotten seance + an early straight flush build twice, and both times it still was worse than most of my other jokers
half of the spectrals are just not helpful if you already have a straight flush build
and the others are like ok i guess (mainly the seals)
icy sentinel
hack is really strong when paired with multiple other triggers on the same card....
I think Hack is solid, just like A tier solid + breaks things if you have a bunch of glass (but then you probably didn't need hack to win, just gives some crazy numbers)
zealous narwhal
I'm most surprised about:
- Trading Card (feels mega S to me, even with the mone...
Trading card is S if you don't forget to use it every time
plush pike
thunk said today they are working on reminder wiggles
icy sentinel
Trading card is S if you don't forget to use it every time
real af
plush pike
so when u could use trading card, dna and maybe flower pot, the joker will wiggle to remind u to use it
zealous narwhal
Cool idea
icy sentinel
Me using DNA to copy a card and immediately Trading Carding it away
potion of 5 dollar
zealous narwhal
3
icy sentinel
too soon
zealous narwhal
Actually it's 1$ profit
U use hand -1$
U waste discard, - 1$ potentially to play trash hand as discard
north flax
Tbh I don't like Trading Card
north flax
It's good for thinning your deck, but I've had it f me over on lots of my builds
Like all I need is a 6 for this straight, oh wait I deleted 3 of them so I probably won't pull it
Ig that's more of a me problem, but still
zealous narwhal
Don't remove cards mindlessly 
I always try to have a plan before I start removing cards
north flax
i do too, but still
finite lake
Green Joker is a C. AND I WON WITH IT.
Acutally the jokers i had were middling tiers and i still won. one D, a C and 3 Bs
willow kelp
here's the thing:
green joker's actually good
the people who voted against it are just wrong
do i always take it? no, but i'll use it if i have it
main thistle
Trading card is S if you don't forget to use it every time
now it wiggles!!
main thistle
so when u could use trading card, dna and maybe flower pot, the joker will wiggl...
feel like maybe it should trigger wiggle when you have selected a valid hand, not when you haven't
it's something you build around, unlike dna
icy sentinel
green joker's actually good
agreed, I put it in B. it's only really good for high card shenanigans but the current demo is very kind to it (pretty much no other high card enablers, a bunch of chip jokers, etc.)
granted I'd probably put it in C if Supernova were still around. That does high card builds about as well but is still quite strong outside of them
ember wharf
I don't get the hate for green joker either, it's extremely easy to scale if you get it early. Yes, you lose out on interest economy because you're throwing hands away for additional mults, but it's worth it because becomes a carry in a way you can't get with B tier and below cards. Low A seems about right in my opinion.
finite lake
i probably was being an idiot for flexing then
waxen frigate
I had it in my one run like second shop and it was super good but I relplaced it with the tarot one because I was on a magic deck build
zealous narwhal
Super is great; it's 8 Ball now
Also I did a few runs while trying to use superpos, and it really is notv(in a long run). Early game sure, you get only 1-2 straights per round, same with 8ball, but late game with 8+ 8s it's not comparable. You either only play 1 straight and win, or try for multiple by underscoring and have high chance of losing
mossy cove
Also I did a few runs while trying to use superpos, and it really is notv(in a ...
For sure. I like that it's self-balancing, rather than self-enabling.
shrewd yacht
I cant believe bull is this low
It might be that i keep playing with the free double blinds deck
But bull is amazing and singlehandedly saved a lot of my runs
Esp since +chips is IMO harder to get than +multiplier
Raised fist also feels weirdly low. I feel like it gives similar multiplier conpared to the +4 multiplier on single suit jokers, but it just needs so much less investment.
pearl knoll
it depends on the hands you're playing
if you play higher hands like straight and full house, it's harder and/or more inconsistent to manipulate the low cards out of the hand
shrewd yacht
Thats fair
I usually go two pair + lowest card, or even one pair + three lowest when i have raised first in the earlygame
It certainly gets the job done
pearl knoll
ye it's large enough for that
minor isle
raised fist is pretty good with pants builds where you're just like ... also throw the lowest card in there
wary epoch
Why isn't Yorick listed?
zealous narwhal
Why isn't Yorick listed?
There was only limited (45) set of jokers in the demo. Legendary jokers were not on it
wary epoch
There was only limited (45) set of jokers in the demo. Legendary jokers were not...
Ohhh I feel dumb I forgot it was only the demo in January
raw wasp
New List PLZ
wispy field
I miss these polls
north flax
i feel like we've had enough time to come to a consensus on all of the new jokers
raw wasp
New List PLZ
raw wasp
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raw wasp
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proven garnet
New List PLZ
pearl knoll
lol
raw wasp
New List PLZ
proven garnet
New List PLZ
proven garnet
New List PLZ
waxen frigate
Old List PLZ
rancid shadow
New List PLZ
proven garnet
New List PLZ
iron coyote
lol this tier list is funny to me cuz localthunk specifically said superposition is one of their favorite jokers
rancid shadow
its funny that superpositions is one of like 10 jokers at most that didn't change position on the tier list since then
wispy field
🕵🏻
rancid shadow
New List PLZ. i wanna disagree with people en masse again
wispy field
Just go to game discussion and talk about straights, thats what people are argueing about atm
rancid shadow
but thats like 10 people max i want to disagree with the million people who bought balatro at once
wispy field
lol, thats fair
rancid shadow
a simple
C Tier - Card Sharp
zealous narwhal
I believe it is too broken to be a good joker
so for me personally it is the bottom of the list
zealous narwhal
Burger my beloved
rancid shadow
burglar my beloathed, stupid op joker doesn't even make sense how it got in the game
zealous narwhal
Well there are jokers that add discards, I personally think it's fine to have jokers that add hands, tho being able to blueprint it does make it go bonkers so I see your point
rancid shadow
its the only +hands joker and the downside is less impactful than merry andy's :|
it highly encourages high card brainrot by stacking common mult jokers and square joker :|
its the only +stat joker that is blueprint compatible :|
it counters the needle but merry andy and drunkard are countered by the water :|
rancid shadow
most of all its just boring to play like 9 hands in a round, if you're using all of them you're probably losing them and if you're not then burglar might as well just be giving you money
i HATE burglar
zealous narwhal
it counters the needle but merry andy and drunkard are countered by the water :|
Ye that one is annoying
Idk why discard stuff is not "when blind is selected"
rancid shadow
i'd rather have it go the other way and nerf burglar
zealous narwhal
what if when blind is selected convert discards into hands
blueprint does nothing
but still highcard spam so Idk
rancid shadow
accidentally buffed it i think
now its good on red deck and discard vouchers are hand vouchers
zealous narwhal
blue stake tho -1 discard
also at this point it should just be a separate suggestion lmao
why are we discussing it in a dead thread
rancid shadow
real
if you wanna make it only give 2 hands and not have it be blueprint compatible you can just do that tho
regal wolf
New List PLZ
proven garnet
New List PLZ
inner rose
New List when
ember hazel
New List PLZ
wispy field
You guys do know what the definition of insanity is right? (/j)
waxen frigate
You guys do know what the definition of insanity is right? (/j)
New List Plz
wispy field
New List Plz
north flax
New List PlZ
pliant berry
New List Plz
hollow viper
New list plz
proven garnet
New list plz
strong jungle
New list plz
green spruce
New list plz