Hey all, going to create this Thread to contain discussion of the Balatro wiki operated by @ beerhelmet (Kro) and myself. If you have questions, or found something that's incorrect, feel free to leave it here and I'll get to checking it as soon as I'm able. Please note the wiki is under construction at the moment, and will be for a while, msot likely until the end of February after Balatro launches.
#Unofficial Balatro Wiki
fossil hollow
are you going to cover all changes of a joker, card, etc
solar trellis
Yes, I plan to update all jokers, theyre the biggest thing rn
stark parcel
Iirc there's the new jokers from this demo on the fandom wiki if you guys need to port those over
solar trellis
Old existing jokers updated to current demo information. New jokers incoming
fossil hollow
me when cavendish
solar trellis
Its not in the demo ;p
fossil hollow
ik im sad
but are you going to cover all the small changes in the demo when 1.0 comes out
like the gros michel change, steel cards, etc
solar trellis
I've already updated those
some things on other pages are still out of date and the shop page needs Packs
1.0 info will be added when 1.0 releases
fossil hollow
k
dim bolt
joining thread by sending message cuz discord mobile is trash
tidal venture
joining thread by sending message cuz discord mobile is trash
Does this not work?
U can hold on the tread name to open this menu
solar trellis
mobile discord do not suck complete ass challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
i havent updated mine since like april last year
tidal venture
Haven't updated since the new ui dropped
solar trellis
hopefully i never will
dim bolt
Does this not work?
not until i joined it 😐
tidal venture
heh, it worked for me, but maybe they broke it in newer versions
tidal venture
known that obelisk has no description?
solar trellis
known that obelisk has no description?
Woops, editing error. Fixed! Thanks ;3
dim bolt
i think the “Diet Soda” joker is supposed to be “Diet Cola”
solar trellis
oopsies, so true. Fixed
dim bolt
didn’t know that Space cards are a thing now
solar trellis
god
Mental typo 💥
Eradicating
edit, fixed
dim bolt
Yoo i want a hat like Throwback’s hat
it looks so cool
the nice light gray checkered pattern
(not a bug btw it looks cool)
(wrong chat 🫥 )
fossil hollow
is there an order of scoring in the mechanics part?
solar trellis
Yes
tidal venture
https://balatro.wiki/en/Jokers
trading card and popcorn are not up to date
https://balatro.wiki/en/Planet-Cards
also planet cards are all still from the previous demo
solar trellis
https://balatro.wiki/en/Planet-Cards
also planet cards are all still from the pr...
fixed
ngl I think everything else after this is going to wait until 1.0 to be updated , gonna be adding new pages to round everything out
solar trellis
🚧 🏗️
weary lily
🏗️ indeed
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w7Dp5F2h7Kp3_59iTjKgHpWmk1cskxm5wTC5bouYYuw/edit?usp=sharing
putting this here so u can just jump back to the thread if u lose the link
solar trellis
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w7Dp5F2h7Kp3_59iTjKgHpWmk1cskxm5wTC5bouY...
thanks. Mime is uncommon now btw
weary lily
gotcha gotcha
solar trellis
also credit card costs 1$
weary lily
ye alot of the costs need to be updated
do u have the list of unlocks btw, cuz i have a list of them if u need it
need to double check with stuff thats changed but most of it shoulda stayed the same
solar trellis
uhbh you can send it but ill prolly be checking it at launch
weary lily
Golden Ticket - Play a 5 card hand that contains only Gold Card
Mr. Bones - Lose 5 runs
Acrobat - Play 200 hands
Sock and Buskin - Play a total of 300 face cards
Swashbuckler - Sell a total of 20 joker cards
Troubadour - Win 5 consecutive rounds by plaing only 1 hand
Certificate - Have a gold playing card with a gold seal [likely changed]
Smeared Joker - Have atleast 3 wild cards in deck
Throwback - Continue a saved run from the main menu
Hanging Chad - Beat a boss blind with a high card
Rouge Gem - Have atleast 30 Diamond Suited Cards in deck
Bloodstone - Have atleast 30 Heart Suited Cards in deck
Arrowhead - Have atleast 30 Spade Suited Cards in deck
Onyx Agate - Have atleast 30 Club Suited Cards in deck
Glass Joker -
Showman - Reach Ante Level 4 (Probably 3 now)
Flowerpot - Reach Ante Level 8 (probably 6 now)
Blueprint - Win a Run
Wee Joker - Win a run in 25 or fewer rounds (Probably Changed)
Merry Andy - Win a run in 15 or fewer rounds (Probably Changed)
Oops! All 6s - In one hand, earn at least 10,000 chips
The Idol - In one hand earn at leat 200,000 chips
Seeing Double - Play a hand containing atleast 4 Seven of Clubs
Matador - Defeat a Boss Blind in 1 hand without using any discards
Hit the Road - Discard 5 jacks
The Duo - Win a run without playing a Pair
The Trio - Win a run without playing a Three of a Kind
The Family - Win a run without palying a Four of a Kind
The Order - Win a run without playing a straight
The Tribe - Win a run without playing a flush
Stuntman - In one hand, earn at least 10,000,000 chips
Invisible Joker - Win a run without ever having more than 4 jokers
Brainstorm - Discard a Royal Flush
Satellite - Have $400 or more
Shoot the Moon - Play every Heart in your deck in a single round
Drivers Licensee - Enhance 16 cards in your deck
Cartomancer - Discover 21 tarot Cards
Astronomer - Discover Every Planet Card
Burnt Joker - Sell a total of 50 cards (Likely Changed)
Bootstraps - Have at least 2 Polychrome Jokers
solar trellis
Note to self (and maybe @ Kro) . Don't put line breaks in the Jokers table
wiki.js does not play nice converting between Markdown and the visual editor when theres line breaks in there. the line breaks persist and break the markdown table lmao
dim bolt
does wiki.js support/use wikitext
solar trellis
Sadly no, it uses CKEditor 5 https://ckeditor.com/docs/ckeditor5/latest/index.html
dim bolt
i see
silent field
lol
solar trellis
phew. the new art isnt there but all jokers are now up to date and included
now m gonna take a lil break and actually play a run lol
tender pebble
phew. the new art isnt there but all jokers are now up to date and included
uploading new art soon
solar trellis
uploading new art soon
Yeah I'm working on it , I've already got the assets n stuff I just also have . A life lol
The wiki will be updated over the course of the day
after I have chicken enchiladas and some weed in me I'll get to it
tender pebble
are you naming the jokers by hand 😭
solar trellis
Yeah lol
They don't come named
tender pebble
Yeah I'm working on it , I've already got the assets n stuff I just also have . ...
oh sorry i meant i am uploading the new art
to the wiki
solar trellis
? Guests cannot edit the wiki
fossil hollow
Splash
Splash
SPLASH
silent field
it wasn't very effective
fossil hollow
"Jimbo used Laughter"
silent field
when doesn't he tho
fossil hollow
tru
solar trellis
lmao
had to pad the table so the ordering would be correct
btw theyre ordered exactly like the collection ;3
silent field
nice
solar trellis
if something is oout of order . yknow what. dont even bother because i have to convert the entire pages language lmao
im sure i will have to face this table many more times in coming updates
solar trellis
Ah I hadnt seen Kro added you
hell yea
solar trellis
uploaded to /jokers/
This is super incomplete xmx adding the rest,,
solar trellis
All jokers are now up to date, all they need is unlock conditions and prices
supple pine
i updated the boss blind table and ante scaling table to have accurate info 👍
i. don't know how to make pages the right way so evkem could you kindly make a page for stakes 🥺
solar trellis
Yeah I was just noticing that was missing
supple pine
oh should ante page include green/purple stake scaling? i feel that's relevant info
solar trellis
Yeah
We could also nest tables within tables which might be an option? That or having them lower down the page
silent field
800 1000 1200
2800 3200 3600
6000 9000 10000
11000 18000 25000
20000 32000 50000
35000 56000 100000
50000 90000 180000```that has tab breaks between them which may automatically make them work if pasted into a table
supple pine
Yeah
We could also nest tables within tables which might be an option? That or h...
lower on the page makes sense to me since base scaling is most relevant for players
solar trellis
Base scaling is stored in Antes right now, could be duplicated or moved
solar trellis
i. don't know how to make pages the right way so evkem could you kindly make a p...
hollow for now . all yours if you want it
supple pine
thank you!
solar trellis
I don't know how to edit the sites sidebar however, I think @silk herald has to
silent field
appreciate all your work evkem
also anyone else lurking here working on the wiki too
supple pine
Cards page is up to date with correct values now
dim bolt
hmm yes ankh
supple pine
foil/bonus/mult
solar trellis
oops good check
solar trellis
hmm yes ankh
fixed
dim bolt
much better
supple pine
booster pack page has new packs (still needs images)
oh and values are now updated ^
solar trellis
I can get images
supple pine
thank youuu
solar trellis
Booster packs up to date with images and a new text blurb, ty for help
I went a little overboard and added all the alt textures too, I dont think they Need to be on the page considering the table tho
supple pine
decks updated with correct effect and unlock condition info, missing some images
supple pine
deck images up to date now
supple pine
joker unlock conditions updated
solar trellis
good stuff
silk herald
👍
tidal venture
I think this section should be updated to provide more in-depth information. Because there's edge cases like if poker hand is X do something to cards (remove/add enhancements, which triggers before scoring, unless it's a destroy effect (Sixth sense)
So from what I know, the general order is
0. Set what hand will be played and which cards will be scoring (for the edge case of Stone and Wild cards with Vampire)
-
If hand is/contains X (where X is condition specified by a joker) scale joker/hand OR modify/clone cards OR activate boss (from left to right, bosses trigger first)
Excludes: destroy effects
Includes: Boss effects (Tooth, Arm, Flint, Hook), Space Joker, Midas Mask, Runner, Spare Trousers, Vampire, DNA etc. -
Cards scoring (All played cards from left to right)
2.1 Base card value
2.2 Enhancement + Gold Seal (gold seals trigger together with lucky, for example, might be just visual though)
2.3 Edition
2.4 Jokers that affect scoring cards (from left to right)
2.5 Retrigger effects -> go to 2.1 -
Held in hand stuff (All cards held in hand, from left to right)
3.1 Enhancements - Steel Card, Gold card (only at end of round)
3.2 Blue Seal (only at end of round)
3.3 Jokers for held in hand stuff (from left to right)
3.4 Retrigger effects -> go to 3.1 -
Jokers (All other jokers, from left to right)
4.1 Foil, Holographic editions
4.2 Joker effect (Mult, chips, Consumables, etc.)
4.3 Polychrome edition
4.4 Baseball card (if present) -
Consumables (planets with observatory) (from left to right)
-
Card destroy (Sixth sense, Glass card)
6.1 Card destroy jokers (Canio, Glass joker)
actually, can also include boss effects
which also happen at 1, I guess
so stuff like the tooth or the arm
and the flint
and space joker
also with joker editions there still might be weird logic where holo triggers before the joker? I'm not 100% sure about that
and seals I also don't really pay much attention on when exactly do they score
tidal venture
and space joker
I didn't use DNA since september demo so I don't remember, but would it also trigger at step 1?
solar trellis
Interesting, definitely worth noting. Wonder if I could make a dropdown or drawer to tuck it in, because it is good information
tidal venture
Btw #🕹・game-discussion message, there's no notes for any of the conditional jokers
Cavendish -> Can only appear after banana self-destructs
Glass Joker -> Can only appear if there is at least one Glass card in the deck
Stone Joker -> Can only appear if there is at least one Stone card in the deck
Steel Joker -> Can only appear if there is at least one Steel card in the deck
Golden Ticket -> Can only appear if there is at least one Gold card in the deck
silent field
Lucky Cat -> Can only appear if there is at least one Lucky card in the deck
unless that one is somehow already there
tidal venture
oh, right, didn't cross my mind
The Idol - can only choose a card from your current deck
Ancient Joker - can choose any suit, even if you don't have it in the deck
Mail-In Rebate - picks a random card in your deck and uses its rank
Castle - picks a random card in your deck and uses its suit
Boss compatibilities for Matador?
silent field
i imagine there's a lot you could do if each joker had its own wiki page
solar trellis
Yeah that's the next big step
I'd like to make those especially for more complex cards like blueprint
silent field
the sly/wily/clever crew are missing rarities on the jokers page
tidal venture
So from what I know, the general order is
0\. Set what hand will be played and w...
Also apparently Matador triggers after the hand and all jokers
just noticed yesterday
well, it might trigger at (4), with all jokers. I'm not 100% sure
can't trust memory, and didn't manage to record it
solar trellis
Good on you, I do intend to add a page about this
cunning stratus
Mail-In Rebate - picks a random card in your deck and uses its rank
Castle - pic...
if castle chooses a wild diamond card is it always going to be diamond or wild makes it random
cunning stratus
someone make a full wild deck quick
tidal venture
but I don't know for sure
cunning stratus
ı am also wondering
if we beat the ante 8 boss blind via mr. bones
do we get the sticker
for mr. bones
tidal venture
I was wondering the same thing yesterday tbh
tidal quest
You don't. I've got it on camera
tidal venture
sad
cunning stratus
You don't. I've got it on camera
😭
tidal venture
Also got that yesterday, bones goes Extinct after your final hand, and then "you win" screen pops up
tidal quest
Banana, too
1 in 4 chance you don't get the gold sticker 😭
tidal venture
that's brutal
distant dome
🤔 what happens if there is a tie when you enter the ante?
or, what is the tiebreaker
recency? or better / worse hand
tidal venture
better hand
tidal venture
i just learned that the Ox doesnt change the most played hand mid ante
it is intentional btw, confirmed by thunk
when I reported as bug
cunning stratus
oh cool
tidal venture
If you ever wondered, if you have 1 eternal and 1 not-enternal jokers, ankh can still drop on non-eternal (this was bugging me for a hot week...)
silk herald
Yeah - very handy when running ghost deck
cunning stratus
campfire was disabled at boss blind crimson heart
mult didnt reset
other one reset
solar trellis
interesting
fossil hollow
So it's more accurate to say Crimson "freezes" a random Joker
tidal venture
You should report it, 99% that is a bug
The joker cards should probably get debuff removed after final hand, before round ends
dim bolt
i dont really think that's a bug
more so of a unique interaction
i think the effect of crimson heart disappears when the boss chip gets destroyed
which is the time when the debuffed joker becomes undebuffed
which is after end of round i believe?
maybe it's crimson heart's last grasp
tidal venture
campfire needs to remove the xmult at end of ante, and it does not, seems like a bug to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dim bolt
i mean if it's disabled before it can do it, it can't remove it
it's a weird interaction after all
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cunning stratus
You should report it, 99% that is a bug
ye probably
when we destroy every card in the current hand it just draws again just find that out
tidal venture
Yeah, I tested that in the last demo already
#🕹・game-discussion message if a video for that is ever needed on the wiki
fair temple
tawny shell
Are we not using the fandom wiki
Just wrote two pages of game mechanics on it, please check it out and see if they can be added to this unofficial Balatro wiki
tidal venture
Are we not using the fandom wiki
this is the balatro wiki this thread was made for, the wiki itself was made to avoid using fandom
tawny shell
I know a lot of communities now migrate their wikis away from fandom
But the fandom Balatro wiki is just more completed right now
Do you plan to move contents on the fandom wiki to this
odd schooner
stakes do not have images
solar trellis
Yeah, I'll be on to update some stuff this week. Been busy
cobalt sun
The https certificate for balatro.wiki expired.
solar trellis
hhuhh, @silk herald
tropic osprey
somebody's gotta automate their ssl renewal
silk herald
Apologies - thought I had that set up already - should be fixed shortly
It is up now with a working cert - looking into why automation failed for cert renewal
odd schooner
did you mention that you encounter a final boss every 8 antes
i mean 16 is the only feasible one
cunning stratus
a face card turning to gold when played (via midas mask) doesnt get debuffed in pillar
fossil hollow
im guessing the reason why it does that is because you play abc cards but when the pillar comes in it doesn't debuff it due to the added enhancement
tidal venture
im guessing the reason why it does that is because you play abc cards but when t...
adding enhancements updates the card to no longer be debuffed
tidal venture
you can do that with tarot as well
tawny shell
Only in card specific circumstances I think
Like it doesn’t affect say plant when you turn a face card
But it does work with the pillar and double or nothing challenge
cobalt sun
the images of some jokers are outdated, notably:
-ceremonial dagger, sock and buskin, oops! all 6s, pareidolia, driver's license, blueprint
the rarity of 5 jokers are missing on the Jokers page:
-sly joker until crafty joker
odd todd's description is incorrect (like someone already mentioned in the comments):
-should be odd cards instead of even
I tried to see if I could update any of these myself but I don't seem to be able to
gritty jacinth
@solar trellis @silk herald is the wiki available in german if not. I would like to help translate it to german if im allowed to
feel free to DM me if Im allowed to help in that regard
dim bolt
the balatro.wiki (this thread) and fandom balatro wiki are not the same wiki
balatro.wiki seems to be down atm cuz they aren’t here/active/or any other reason that i dont know atm i assume blame my current internet connection
tidal venture
~~balatro.wiki seems to be down atm cuz they aren’t here/active/or any other rea...
does not seem to be down to me
cobalt sun
the images of some jokers are outdated, notably:
-ceremonial dagger, sock and bu...
Did you manage to fix these @solar trellis? They're still outdated on my end
solar trellis
Sorry, been busy with real life stuff. Will try and update after work
cobalt sun
No worries! Just making sure I wasn't missing anything 👍
gritty jacinth
<@148680153239781376> <@164682543260631040> is the wiki available in german if ...
@solar trellis @silk herald is that a no? cause i havent heard anything from you two
cobalt sun
Heya@solar trellis, can we talk? I've sent you a friend request.
flat smelt
cerulean flicker
Has balatro.wiki been totally abandoned now? I emailed the identity protect email on the Whois last night with an offer to take it over