#Rare Joker: Chips and Mult are preserved between hands. Hands don't score unless they win the blind.

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trim obsidian
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E.g.: 75x4 Flush is played in big blind 1, but 300 < 450 so the chips and mult stay there and you draw a new hand. You play a 60x3 three-of-a-kind, adding that to the preserved chips and mult from before, giving 135x7, for a total of 945 which scores.

This could also be a deck similar to the deck that balances Chips and Mult, with a similar Blind score req buff.

cold token
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plasma deck for the one that balances and cool ideas!

trim obsidian
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Xmult probably goes crazy with this

cold token
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truee

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maybe something like jokers give half chips/multi/xmulti if its a deck?

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just spitballin

trim obsidian
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there's a lot of possibility

cold token
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yeah

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anyways back to book

trim obsidian
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lol

ripe relic
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inch resting idea

hoary otter
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That not a rare joker. That's a legendary joker. Reason: you can't really do anything less than 3 hands in ante 8+ on op runs. And you will get to it in the full game

trim obsidian
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Wasn't sure how to approach gauging that issue, so i did a bit of math - the example i gave would normally be 300+180=480 points, but adding this joker increased it to 945, which is about double, so effectively a 2x multiplier for 2 hands. If we added a third hand, another 75x4, we get 780 points without this joker, and 210x11=2310 with it, effectively a 3x multiplier. I think this ends up being roughly an Xmult equal to Hands used in a round.

This isn't completely broken, but does need some tuning. So maybe just completely rework the effect to: X1 Mult, +X1 Mult for each hand used this round. This is a little over half effectiveness, and only gets high Xmult the more hands they use in a round, which means losing some hand money. If there are more ways to gain hands in the full game, maybe it makes more sense to be +X0.75 or +X0.5.

dense torrent
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Honestly, I like the idea of the original joker better than this new one. While it was strong, that issue could be fixed by giving -10 chips(or something similar) to every hand. The original idea felt really novel and creative, where this new one sort of lacks the uniqueness of the original

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either way this should be a legendary joker

trim obsidian
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i do agree the original idea is unique, i just have a concern that it's overly complex

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also i was concerned that there wasn't space for a legendary, but i suppose i don't actually know that

cold token
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so (a1 times b1) + (a2 times b2) is < (a1 + a2) times (b1 + b2) in most cases?
a being chips of first hand
a2 being chips of 2nd hand
b and b2 same things as a and a2 but with mult

trim obsidian
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b1 + b2 and it'd be in all cases

cold token
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OH I SEE THE LOGIC NOW!
cause if you play 2 hands that have same chips and points you get x2 multi and x2 chips with this joker but cost 2 hands so basically 2x

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I got there adventually people