#Number formatting

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steel skiff
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🧵

fervent atlas
cosmic canopy
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Roll starts around e16

remote prism
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large silly numbers are part of the fun

echo gazelle
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but large silly unreadable numbers are not fun anymore 😦

steel skiff
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Full game will have a lot larger scores than the current demo - so it's either scientific notation or not being able to see the number after a certain point

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Which tbh might be fun

echo gazelle
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id perfer it to be scientific notation

neon current
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is that all the polls?

steel skiff
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Unless you can think of another poll, yeah I believe so

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That's pretty much all the major parameters

neon current
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oki, wanted to wait to respond until they were finished

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I definitely feel that seeing the number get larger is a lot more satisfying than scientific notation. But I do see the problem that large scores get progressively less readable the larger they get. Maybe that's fine because scores of that size won't need to be read in normal games?, although that argument stops working in endless mode. Maybe you could have it go scientific notation only in endless, where you need to see the actual scale of your score. DiscoPig also has a point; if you get a huge score that is unreadable and find something else that improves that score by a large margin, you might not be able to tell the difference between the two, which takes away from the reward of doing so.

The 6th option of the third poll surprised me because it feels like it fits perfectly. You already have [Chips] X [Mult], so formatting the scientific notation to mirror that feels like it's very appropriate. However, I do have an idea for the e15/E15 options; the [15] portion's font could get larger the larger the score scale is, to bring back that fun aspect of the score getting visually larger (e.g. E15 would be around the base size, while E80 would have a much visually larger 80).

I also wonder how feasible it is to look into other methods of displaying large numbers, but I haven't heard of anything except the idle game format that was mentioned in another channel. Maybe that could be adapted in a way that is distinct from those? But maybe scientific is fine.

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I don't think my coherence is the highest right now but i did my best

steel skiff
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Hey if there's a better option than scientific notation I'm all for it, and your idea of making the exponent number itself do the fun numbers-go-brr things is fantastic and totally doable

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I can make the pivot point way higher too, like E15 is still readable in game so E21 or higher would probably work

humble brook
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Oh, I like the idea of the exponent getting bigger to remind of the number getting bigger! Maybe it could also shift color according to color scale of hands levels?

fierce lava
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Scientific notation is very handy for people who have knowledge in math but it's not the case of all players I think.
Is there another way to show large number in a funnier way for casual player ?
An idea is using k, M, Md, etc (1 600 000 000 = 1,6 Md)

neon current
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Md is milliard isn't it

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i just learned about that

remote prism
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maybe it could show the scientific number if you highlight over it

steel skiff
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My guess here is that most players that hit scientific notation sized numbers will know what scientific notation is

fierce lava
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logic x)

ancient quest
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I much prefer 3.14e15 over 3.14E15 because it makes a lot clearer at a glance where the base ends and the exponent starts

steel skiff
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3.13 E15

ancient quest
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That would work too

steel skiff
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Or the + I guess

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Tbh I kinda hate all of them

ancient quest
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Capital E just tossed in the middle can make it get lost is all, so a shorter time to read is better

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I have 600 hours in Antimatter Dimensions lol so I have opinions on notation

steel skiff
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Aside from normal and scientific notation is there another option?

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Using language notation (b for example) is a no go, too vague

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And doesn't actually solve the issue because what is the notation for E266?

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(If you're googling it that's proving the point balatrojoker )

ancient quest
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there's engineering notation which is just scientific but 3 digits instead of 1 before the decimal

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but other than that there's not really a bunch of options

fierce lava
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maybe with a color code ?

  • from 1 to 1Md : classic,
  • from 1Md to 10^18 : silver,
  • from 10^18 to 10^27 : gold

1 265 000 000 would be 1,265 in silver

ancient quest
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like when you're dealing with numbers in which just the exponent here will be orders of magnitude higher, small e is better

image.png
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i dont think balatro will get quite that big but

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having the + seems unnecessary but im not like, opposed to it

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and then having the actual exponent on a 10 makes it smaller and harder to read

steel skiff
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I also dislike the + since it'll never be -

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So it's implied

ancient quest
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mhm

steel skiff
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imo the only truly generalizable options are normal/scientific notation, everything else will need to have a bunch of if/else and wonky localization

undone frost
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can we vote multiple times in the poll?

steel skiff
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And if there's some odd rule to memorize for the size of your score in game - it may as well be a standard notation instead of something bespoke like colour coordination

steel skiff
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Vote to your hearts content

fierce lava
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make the score horizontally scrollable BobRossKappa

neon current
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To expand a bit more on the common Idle Game number system:
Thousands is represented by K, Millions by M, Billions by B, Trillions by T (and maybe a couple more after like Q for Quadrillions), and then they transition to a, b, c, d, e, f, ..... y, z, aa, ab, ac, etc. This works for idle games because getting to these levels is expected and does a good job of explaining where you are in the game's progression. But for Balatro, scores of these scales have a lot more significance, because (I am assuming) they are much less common, and signify either an extremely lucky run or extremely skillful play. So to adapt this to Balatro, my idea would be to lean fully into the actual language for large numbers like QuattorSeptuagintaCentillion (the 174th term in the Million/Billion wording system), by shortening each part (Quattor, Septua, Centillion) into a single letter. To prevent duplicates, such as D for Duo- and Deci-, S for Sex- and Sept-, and Q for Quad- and Quint-, maybe the system could go U, B, T, Q, P, H, S, O, N, D/C (to represent Un-, Bi-, Tri-, Quad-, Pent-, Hex-, Sept-, Oct-, Non-, Deci-/Centi-) and stack them like you would say the actual word, so our 174th term would be QSC. And if the need arises, past 3 letters it repeats itself, so the 174,174th term is just QSCQSC.

Yes I see how convoluted this is.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_large_numbers#Extensions_of_the_standard_dictionary_numbers

undone frost
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I think scientific is easiest to understand (3.14e27)

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my only opinion on "decimal places" is that it should be consistent - always display that many decimal places, even if it means having 0s at the end

steel skiff
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For English - this does seem more fun than scientific notation in some ways

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Though you lose out on seeing a number go up

neon current
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my only thought on that is that it's enough of a code already that you might be able to learn to parse it naturally as you get better at the game and see those numbers get higher, or that you'd have to learn it from external sources like the discord anyway, but I assume that just shifts the issue to it being difficult to understand to begin with

steel skiff
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Juicing up the E number will probably keep quite a bit of the magic in game and might even teach some players that don't know scientific notation what the number means by feel

neon current
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also i just realized i forgot a key possibility where the middle digit is a 0, like the 203rd term. you'd need another letter, maybe an X to denote no digit (TXB)

undone frost
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i18n for numbers is tricky, as different languages have different ways of splitting numbers up into thousands etc. - for example, some Asian languages split based on 10,000, I think some Indian languages have commas in a non-thousands spot

neon current
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oh yeah that rings a bell

ancient quest
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which kinda sucks because it IS a fun system

neon current
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that is an issue

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maybe solvable? but an issue

steel skiff
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Scientific notation isn't meaningfully different between languages right? Aside from the meaning of . And ,

undone frost
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yes, it is not too different

neon current
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i do believe it is adequately standardized

steel skiff
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Which is the same for normal numbers

ancient quest
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those scientists certainly knew what they were doing

steel skiff
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Too dang smart

neon current
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lol

fallow lark
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ah, missed this thread

undone frost
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let me find the Indian-language comma system

steel skiff
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French is different as well I think?

neon current
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oh no french

ancient quest
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french is a whole other can of worms

neon current
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F O U R T W E N T I E S

undone frost
humble brook
steel skiff
neon current
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i think i saw monopoly money separated that way once

humble brook
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(But you'll more often see a ' as a thousands separator.)

fervent atlas
steel skiff
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The large number notation will apply to the hand score, the round score, and the blind requirement

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And any high score screen

ancient quest
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very nice

undone frost
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will it apply to Mult too (once it gets that large)?

steel skiff
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no

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Since it's fun to see that freak out

neon current
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idea: show the blind requirement as the full number at start of round, but animate it condensing into scientific

steel skiff
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bruh

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trying to finish this dang thing

neon current
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lol

fallow lark
neon current
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smh my head animation takes like 2 minutes, everyone knows that

fervent atlas
fallow lark
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I was thinking, if the scientific notation is being the final choice, maybe there could be a tooltip Idk

steel skiff
fallow lark
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use \

ancient quest
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oh easy just get some reading glasses and squint

steel skiff
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lmao thank you

fallow lark
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or ` `

steel skiff
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You get the gist

fallow lark
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I'm not sure I get wym

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what's the underscores for

undone frost
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(I don't get it either)

steel skiff
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When the number is big enough - it's impossible to read

fervent atlas
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I would also like a hover to see exact score/blind requirement (although I know Lua truncated that after a certain point)

neon current
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they're tiny numbers

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can't you read them?

undone frost
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oh LOL

neon current
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the number is 1412444125241000000000000

fallow lark
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oh 😹

undone frost
fallow lark
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I mean using the 10^123

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seems a bit more readable?

fervent atlas
fallow lark
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I know it's not the prettiest

steel skiff
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Yes - the issue with that one is that the exponent is the smallest part of the entire string but it's where almost all the meaningful information is

ancient quest
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3.14x10^159
vs
3.14e159

steel skiff
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Which is a tradeoff

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If I use a superscript

ancient quest
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yeah im not a fan of superscripts

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for this

fallow lark
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I dont even know what it is 😹

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probably not the best idea then

neon current
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10¹⁵ that small number is superscript

ancient quest
steel skiff
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10¹²³

ancient quest
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subscript and superscript in the image

fallow lark
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oh

neon current
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Hlop

fervent atlas
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1e123 is much more readable and also pretty common notation

steel skiff
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send hlop

ancient quest
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hlop me blease

neon current
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:hlop:

echo gazelle
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hlop

fallow lark
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Idk

neon current
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:blatrohlop:

fallow lark
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as well

steel skiff
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Doing the poll here won't help because the prevalence of math grads in the discord is waaaaaaay higher than the background rate

undone frost
fallow lark
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so when you hover, it will either show full number

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or explain

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with 10^123

ancient quest
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a hover tool tip is a good idea

fervent atlas
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the issue with exact number is, as I mentioned, floating point

undone frost
ancient quest
fallow lark
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I havent 😭

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I dont understand idle games

ancient quest
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disregard my 2 years of mech

steel skiff
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You won't reach E levels without knowing what you're doing, so this is not for average players

echo gazelle
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so 12.3 x 10^45 and 12.3 e45 ?

fervent atlas
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With the >10^50 glitched runs I had most of the last digits would turn into zeros… I think that already starts happening at the quintillions

undone frost
fallow lark
steel skiff
undone frost
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I definitely agree in that case (that this is not for average players)

steel skiff
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I guess I'd be shocked if someone engineered an E20 run and didn't know what that meant

neon current
undone frost
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there's endless mode, right? that might?? make it easier for more people to hit this notation

fallow lark
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isn't endless the only way to hit it anyways

steel skiff
fallow lark
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oh

steel skiff
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You can hit it before winning the game for sure

kindred adder
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The simplest option would be to have settings for when and how large numbers are abbreviated but that would mean more work on your part

undone frost
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I know that some people love grinding Endless modes in roguelikes

fervent atlas
fallow lark
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with a bug smh

fervent atlas
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a bug that’s a feature with a joker in 1.0

fallow lark
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yea this is a demo

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so this is a bug

steel skiff
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There are probably 10 different ways to go infinite in full game

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I found a new one last night

fallow lark
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wtf

echo gazelle
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👀

steel skiff
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With a new Joker called the Baron

ancient quest
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can you give us any details? 👁️

echo gazelle
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ooh

fervent atlas
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You might need to add softcaps

fallow lark
kindred adder
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Another scalable joker surely

steel skiff
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Nope, the infinite ones aren't scaleable ones

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Because they can't scale fast enough

ancient quest
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:0

echo gazelle
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😮

fervent atlas
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It’s infinite loops with joker combinations

kindred adder
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Ooohh

neon current
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The Baron
When you play a hand of only Red cards, gain a pizza 🍕

steel skiff
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I try to close the loops where I can - so these more just outperform the scaling of endless mode

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So my solution is to make endless scale insanely fast after a while

ancient quest
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scaling the scaling

steel skiff
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So the Ante is actually pretty meaningful

echo gazelle
fervent atlas
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b^x where b increases linearly and x is ante

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I assume the fastest scaling is probably fixed-base exponential

steel skiff
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uhhhhh it's b^x where b AND x increase with ante

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I think

ancient quest
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localthunk expertly dodging questions about the new jokers

steel skiff
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That outperforms the Order of scaling of every card I am pretty sure

neon current
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what happens when the scientific notation needs scientific notation 🤔

undone frost
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not possible with doubles

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…actually, will there be a e308 cap?

steel skiff
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Should I leak the Baron?

ancient quest
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yesssss

steel skiff
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(imagine saying no)

neon current
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you should always leak all the things

undone frost
steel skiff
undone frost
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save the surprise for the full game

ancient quest
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D:

neon current
ancient quest
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do the riddle thing again lol

steel skiff
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I want to

echo gazelle
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ante 20: 20^20 = 1.05 e26

steel skiff
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it's a lot of work tho, maybe later on

kindred adder
echo gazelle
steel skiff
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I want to share the ante scaling I have set right now for endless to see what you all math folk think

ancient quest
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there's plenty of jokers you havent leaked im sure, whats one more we get to know?

neon current
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104,857,600,000,000,000,000,000,000

undone frost
ancient quest
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the reality update actually has a new one lmao

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break_infinity was too small

undone frost
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(break_eternity was used for a while I think?? idk)

ancient quest
steel skiff
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Hmm this might be hard to share, one sec

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So 8 antes in base game, I have those hard coded for balance purposes

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Everything past 8 is endless

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and those are all generated from an equation, let's see if I can notate it properly

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omg what did I do

echo gazelle
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?

ancient quest
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so its a different one than what youve shared before then?

image.png
steel skiff
ancient quest
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Ante amount = 80,000 * X ^ (Ante - 8)
X = 1.75 + Y * (Ante - 8)
Y = ???

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is what you sent before

steel skiff
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(A) * ((B + (K*C))^2) ^ C

A = Ante 8 amount, 80,000 for example
B = 1.75
C = Ante amount past 8, so Ante 10 would be C = 2
K = insane scaling factor

ancient quest
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Mmmm a new variable

echo gazelle
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mmm

steel skiff
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That chart shows the ranges of Ante amounts from K = 0 to K = 0.5

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So that is what I'd tweak to make basically nobody get past ~20 reliably

undone frost
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you really don't want people going endlessly lmao

steel skiff
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Forever endless isn't fun

delicate igloo
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lol

steel skiff
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It's fun 1 time then it's boring

delicate igloo
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true

steel skiff
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Wheras having it like this is a challenge that might be fun many times

delicate igloo
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forever endless would just be, you have scaling or you dont

undone frost
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I think there may be a subset of people who treat endless modes as effectively a sandbox, like getting the maximum score in LBAL

echo gazelle
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one time i bought big spender on roll which discounted the shop by 80%, then proceeded to spend TWO hours spending my pips for ONE roll

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it was fun but then it got boring

steel skiff
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I think the concept of being able to go forever is more fun than actually doing it

delicate igloo
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also true

steel skiff
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So this technically allows you to go forever

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but... you wont

undone frost
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I quite like this super-harsh endless mode for the reasons you mentioned, but I suspect you might???? get requests for a sandbox mode after launch

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solution: someone can mod it in

steel skiff
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Yeah and I'm all for a sandbox mode too

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But it's low on the list

undone frost
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let modders do it for you, then steal their code 😈

steel skiff
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I have most of it implemented for the debug build so it wouldn't be awful

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but making it look pretty is another thing

undone frost
delicate igloo
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I mean I know math would get on that real quick

steel skiff
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Anyway I need to determine a value of K that optimizes fun

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Because then I really think people will not only compete on high score, but even high ante

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And that can be part of a daily challenge score, the ante you reached

fierce lava
steel skiff
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K is just for scaling in endless mode

undone frost
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K would ultimately depend on the balance / scaling of jokers / decks, right? but the actual formula scales fast enough so you don't need to get it too exact

delicate igloo
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Im glad you are back local

ancient quest
delicate igloo
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you are very logical and always right, ||except for when you are wrong||

steel skiff
undone frost
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would you rather have a K too large, or a K too small?

ancient quest
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and d is the scaling factor

steel skiff
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Probably too large

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but that's a number I'll DEFINITELY hone in after launch

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Because it's very very meaningful

undone frost
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I personally think that K too small would be best, because (worst case) people play for a few more blinds than optimal

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whereas K too large might feel too punishing

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…although, is that the intention of endless?

steel skiff
delicate igloo
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probably gonna be like, 2.5 or something

undone frost
steel skiff
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As a rising tide type game, I want the tide to actually rise for all players

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That pressure is the fun part to me

ancient quest
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if you get to ante 20, the difference between k=0.5 is e26 and k=1 is e32

amber sierra
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what about like havimg the word for really big numbers? Like 5 Billion or whatveer

undone frost
delicate igloo
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I think scaling factor outweights ingame scaling though? cause you cant really scale that well without like a lot of the same multi jokers and even then

kindred adder
fallow lark
steel skiff
ancient quest
delicate igloo
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also the antes are only one more boss so each ante shouldnt be to to longer for each

echo gazelle
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in shop scaling

undone frost
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how often do the the Big Boss blinds (not sure if they have name?) like Verdant Leaf appear in Endless?

steel skiff
undone frost
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maybe they can appear more and more often 🤔

delicate igloo
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oh well thats different, thought it was random boss blind every ante after 8

undone frost
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would you be aiming for something like ante 16 kills most runs?

steel skiff
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Although the harder bosses gated to higher antes all can appear whenever in endless

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The number is definitely the part I want to kill most endless runs

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I'll likely start with k = 0.5 and adjust from there

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Consider that for the normal game its basically k = 0 until ante 8

delicate igloo
ancient quest
delicate igloo
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and 2 dusk 2 bp

fallow lark
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maybe thunk added the joker for 10 bajillion chips

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the new meta

delicate igloo
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the balatro wiki, is there anything that would scale that fast that each extra dusk/bp adds 8bajjillion chips?

steel skiff
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I am certain someone will get the E308 limit for Lua numbers

ancient quest
steel skiff
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Yeah there are a lot

ancient quest
steel skiff
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I'll see what happens

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🙂

delicate igloo
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congratz, you now have 0 chips!

fallow lark
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u have negative

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😹

steel skiff
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I joked earlier that it would replace it with 'a lot'

delicate igloo
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lol

undone frost
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(in IEEE754, going above the maximum number results in Infinite)

ancient quest
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at ante 64, you only need k=3.7 to reach e308

undone frost
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Super Ante 64

delicate igloo
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yeahhhh thats a lot

ancient quest
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ah wait thats 72

humble brook
ancient quest
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you need k=9.2 lmao

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for ante 64

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to be e308

fallow lark
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we need e308 ante 10

delicate igloo
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btw does mime make glass cards in hand active (or poly/holo/foil)?

steel skiff
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no

fallow lark
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nop

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only stay in hand effects 😴

delicate igloo
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thats what I though

steel skiff
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Baron + Mime got me over 2 trillion yesterday

delicate igloo
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Mr bones can carry past e308

ancient quest
delicate igloo
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Baron?

ancient quest
delicate igloo
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(I need to catch up on my 0.8.8)

fallow lark
ancient quest
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only up to 4e308

echo gazelle
fallow lark
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unless I am misremembering

delicate igloo
steel skiff
delicate igloo
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so it can carry for maybe 1 ante

ancient quest
echo gazelle
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👀

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🔥

ancient quest
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he looks so snazzy

delicate igloo
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woo

neon current
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the unholy child of ronald mcdonald and the burger king

delicate igloo
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lol

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I cant say how much the scaling is without seeing all the jokers

neon current
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wonder if they're face card related

delicate igloo
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cause in demo with glitches a little over 1 quintillion max non-patched wr

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5 hand dup brings that to like e70 prob

steel skiff
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And you know I'm bringing back the hand dup glitch

undone frost
delicate igloo
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maybe if triboulet is like poly cards might be insanely cracked

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that would be only way I see

steel skiff
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Legendary is for wins, not high scores

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Plus they might have changed a tad

delicate igloo
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Im just using the wiki info I have

ancient quest
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so many leaks but so few specifics today

delicate igloo
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from wiki that would be only thing that would make me think e308 possible

ancient quest
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its like shopping at costco and trying all the samples

delicate igloo
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OH WAIT

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I forgot about that one deck

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that balances multi and chips

undone frost
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that one deck just makes it so you need to get to 2e154 to get e308 I think

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(which sounds ridiculous when you put it that way)

delicate igloo
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so yeah it may be possible with perfect seed, hand dup glitch, and that deck

fierce lava
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to get back to the number formatting, maybe a funny feature would be when overring a scientific number it shows the whole number. So the tooltip with be ridiculously long and that's funny in screenshots.

steel skiff
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Multi line string number in the tooltip

delicate igloo
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should put the number in binary instead of scientific notation balatrojoker

steel skiff
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1,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000

fallow lark
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too much 0s 😭

ancient quest
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a mere 1e30

steel skiff
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Ooooo roman numeral mode - no decimal numbers on screen

delicate igloo
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lol

echo gazelle
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lol

ancient quest
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lol

delicate igloo
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trying to find e308 in binary isnt working

neon current
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Must play V cards per hand

fierce lava
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The "roman mode"

delicate igloo
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(modders note that down-)

neon current
kindred adder
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Just add all the AD notations then

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A petite dram and 4 minims

steel skiff
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Abacus mode, all numbers are displayed as an abacus rendered in real time

neon current
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oh no

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we need a Modding Idea bank somewhere

delicate igloo
steel skiff
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About a year ago I had a card called the platinum abacus

neon current
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no, that's definitely e308

kindred adder
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Play like it’s the ninth century AD

delicate igloo
steel skiff
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and I had to learn how to use an abacus so the card could say 42,069 in abacus notation

delicate igloo
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lol

kindred adder
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Legendary

ancient quest
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thats actually hilarious

delicate igloo
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apparently 308e is google calculators limit

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undone frost
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the credit card 42069 wasn't a coincidence!!!!

steel skiff
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cmon give me some credit

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I've been on the internet

fallow lark
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the funny

ancient quest
delicate igloo
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yeah

steel skiff
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Yooooo I found the old game from like a year ago and there is some cursed art here

delicate igloo
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btw (off topic) local did see me dm you

steel skiff
delicate igloo
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oops all 6's moment

echo gazelle
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why is it red 🤔

ancient quest
neon current
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it's red

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🤔

steel skiff
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cursed

echo gazelle
#

cursed edition???

steel skiff
delicate igloo
steel skiff
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Holy cursed

ancient quest
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red oops! all 6's gives you 6 discards

ancient quest
steel skiff
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This used to be scholar

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wasn't called scholar

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but same effect

neon current
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80s superspy vibes

echo gazelle
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so “Cursed” is a brand new edition to jokers? 👀

delicate igloo
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lol

neon current
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what does cursed edition do

ancient quest
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it reverts the art to an older version

echo gazelle
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visual effect: “colourize to red hue?”

neon current
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lmao

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which demo joker would be least affected by a red hue change

echo gazelle
steel skiff
neon current
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evil stevil confirmed???

undone frost
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I still find it funny that Slay the Spire had to create bad art just for the "beta art" feature

echo gazelle
fierce lava
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cursed card : when played, crash the game.

neon current
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hey didn't someone else also make an away-facing joker as fanart? lol

delicate igloo
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lol

echo gazelle
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this one has thread stitches tho

steel skiff
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OMG

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yall aren't ready

ancient quest
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👁️

echo gazelle
#

drumroll

steel skiff
echo gazelle
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sheeeesh

ancient quest
#

TOKER

kindred adder
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Toker

echo gazelle
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wait blank card?

ancient quest
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420

echo gazelle
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oh

steel skiff
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funny number

kindred adder
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Sheeeeeeeeesh

delicate igloo
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NOOOOOOO

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MY EYESSSSSSSSS

neon current
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lol

echo gazelle
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🤣

ancient quest
#

the red eyes and everything lmfao

undone frost
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oh my god

delicate igloo
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Gonna be my nightmares

neon current
#

the grinch's cousin

steel skiff
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I'm crying rn what was I thinking

delicate igloo
#

all I can think about is shrek joker

echo gazelle
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how do you get “0” rank card

ancient quest
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gotta get that T rating

undone frost
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you were COOKING 🔥🔥🔥

steel skiff
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That was my 6th Joker ever

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That's how important I thought this idea was

neon current
#

im glad you chose 420 over 69

delicate igloo
kindred adder
neon current
#

what was this thread about again?

steel skiff
#

who cares

echo gazelle
#

👌

delicate igloo
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I think it was about... balatro?

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I forget

steel skiff
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here's a high effort one

echo gazelle
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yooo

delicate igloo
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didnt do joker on sides upside down

fierce lava
#

🙃

echo gazelle
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it’s rekoj

delicate igloo
#

🙃

echo gazelle
#

🙃

ancient quest
#

🙃

steel skiff
#

I kinda like this one ngl

image.png
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No idea what it was supposed to do

kindred adder
#

To the moooooooon

echo gazelle
ancient quest
#

oh yeah that ones pretty cool

kindred adder
#

Stonkler

steel skiff
#

It may have been called to the moon?

neon current
#

no interest limit

steel skiff
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Or line go up?

delicate igloo
echo gazelle
delicate igloo
#

to the moon better

kindred adder
undone frost
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shoot the moon?

steel skiff
#

I'll add this one back in, I like it

echo gazelle
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🥳

delicate igloo
#

👀

ancient quest
#

woo!

steel skiff
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I love copying myself

neon current
#

have you already reached 150 jokers and are just adding this as another

steel skiff
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No I don't have all the art done

ancient quest
#

self plagiarism is real and just as punishable as plagiarizing others

steel skiff
#

The art takes forever

delicate igloo
#

full release gonna be like 8 million jokers

delicate igloo
neon current
echo gazelle
delicate igloo
steel skiff
delicate igloo
#

lol

ancient quest
steel skiff
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It's a job/hobby though so it's not like having 2200 hours in a game, a lot easier to pour hours into aseprite

fierce lava
steel skiff
#

Or I see some people add VSCode to steam to track hours too

delicate igloo
#

so like 3 days more

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echo gazelle
#

24*3 hours wow

neon current
#

impressive

steel skiff
ancient quest
#

in just 1 month

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impressive

delicate igloo
#

you posted it in one of the polls

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(I remembered it cause was amazed)

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like 10 times the amount of hours of balatro I have

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prob 5x dr spectreds

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actually knowing him prob 4x

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apparently I recently passed 300 hours... huh

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anyways scientific notation...

steel skiff
#

If I had to pick 1 single thing to motivate me for 1.0 release, it'd be getting dr.spectred the full game so he can actually play the intended amount of content

ancient quest
#

lmfao

delicate igloo
ancient quest
#

im looking forward to that too honestly

delicate igloo
#

who isnt?

ancient quest
#

we're gonna see some CRAZY shit

steel skiff
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Moreso than actually playing it I want to see him destroy my game

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Plus I want him to have fun playing it again

delicate igloo
#

he already has wr glitched/nonglitched in demo

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btw local have you seen the ww scores

steel skiff
#

nah

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not real

neon current
#

i do not see it
😑

undone frost
#

WHITE WHALE NOT REAL CONFIRMED

delicate igloo
#

sure sure

echo gazelle
#

😱

delicate igloo
#

anyways with seed searcher and ww they checked all 2.3 tril seeds or something and found THE seed. adventually 1 quintillion and drspectred getting like, a lot more

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he just hasnt finished the run

steel skiff
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I'm trying to take some of these records with a grain of salt because the intent is to finish this game and have yall compete on the real non glitched/bugged version I intended to design

delicate igloo
#

true

ancient quest
#

there'll definitely be less focus on the glitches when we have the full game to play with

#

just kinda a content drought with the demo lol, which is to be expected and not a bad thing

delicate igloo
steel skiff
#

I didn't bother fixing the WW because there's a joker that does it in the full game, it's not really an issue IMO and it's something fun you guys can play around with

#

I think?

delicate igloo
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I like being the test dummy of the server when it comes to that

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ringmaster exists

steel skiff
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It's fixed in my dev build

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but yeah for the demo I'm leaving it

delicate igloo
#

okey

ancient quest
#

white whale is a lot of fun :) and just a taste of ringmaster

delicate igloo
#

is the glitch with after boss crashing fixed?

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cause thats like the number 1 big glitch

steel skiff
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I imagine that a seed with negative ringmaster round 1 will be popular

delicate igloo
#

and then number 2 is people thinking they are softlocked on bosses when the notification says they cant play a hand

humble brook
delicate igloo
echo gazelle
#

ye

delicate igloo
#

I do it so I can pull one over drspectreds head so he can flex on me later

steel skiff
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The WW for example isn't a fun glitch

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the result is fun

delicate igloo
#

true

steel skiff
#

But it requires you to look at menus

delicate igloo
#

also true

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kinda like file manip

steel skiff
#

Yeah - and as the designer I do have some control over what the competition playing field is because a patched glitch generally won't be considered a legit score (I think?)

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And these are glitches that are patched in my version, not the demo version, so there is a lag between the 2

delicate igloo
#

they shouldnt count for real wr, more of seperate category of wr

steel skiff
#

The people doing WW glitch I think are competing with eachother/working together though so I don't think they'd care if it's patched in the full version, they'll compete with that one when it comes out without WW

delicate igloo
#

yeah

echo gazelle
#

ye

delicate igloo
#

Im just here to see big number go bigger

echo gazelle
#

we love big numbers 🥰

steel skiff
#

The only reason I wanted to patch WW was because it had a chance to make the game less fun and more menu manip

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but my guess is the fun outweighs that issue for that group?

humble brook
#

Not really competing, but for sure I'll mess with everything I can get my hands on! ^^

delicate igloo
#

now that we found the wr wr for it I think its fine if its patched

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especially since neg ringmaster seeds

steel skiff
#

I won't patch it this demo

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But it'll be patched next demo

ancient quest
#

Sounds good to me

echo gazelle
#

ye

delicate igloo
#

yep

undone frost
#

I completely forgot there's going to be another demo

echo gazelle
#

😶

ancient quest
#

I’m excited to see how it’ll be different

delicate igloo
#

same

#

current game only thing I havent done I want to do is ww dna, ww marble, ww bp

undone frost
#

tbh, I think localthunk is being waaaaay too generous with these demos - the current one is basically a great game already (but it might be lacking replayability)

#

I appreciate we have crumbs to eat before the big release, though

humble brook
#

True, most of the friends I showed the demo to were like "Wait, that's a demo?! There's a whole game for free?!"

fallow lark
delicate igloo
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I have 300

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Im better

fierce lava
#

but demos have worked ! Now there is a big hype for this game and many people want to buy it to find out the aditional content

steel skiff
#

Anyone that puts 50 hours into this demo is waaaaaay more likely to buy the full version than if I stripped it down to nothing IMO

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Plus people like a good juicy demo

delicate igloo
#

true

echo gazelle
#

🍹

steel skiff
#

I mean, in my opinion the demo is stripped down

delicate igloo
#

wdym by stripped down

steel skiff
#

Like the full game is definitly 100+ hours of content to just complete 100% of the achievements/unlocks/challenges/etc

#

Like the list of things the game gives you to do is basically 0 in the demo, and the content is stripped back a ton

delicate igloo
#

true

echo gazelle
#

ye

delicate igloo
fierce lava
#

and with mods the content never ends

delicate igloo
#

true

fierce lava
#

Balatro is the next Skyrim balatrojoker

delicate igloo
#

Balatro the next Raid Shadow Ledgends balatrojoker

fallow lark
#

noooo

ancient quest
#

Balatro will be the Minecraft of Deck Building

delicate igloo
#

lol

#

Balatro will the Balatro version of Balatro-demo

cold phoenix
echo gazelle
#

🤔

#

never thought of that actually

neon current
#

:o

fervent atlas
#

that is what my calculator uses

delicate igloo
#

lol

ancient quest
delicate igloo
#

what if

#

infintesimally small E

amber sierra
#

normal sized e but with a really big gap between it

delicate igloo
#

put a jimbo holding the letter e

ancient quest
#

replace all the other numbers with e and your score in the spot the first e used to be

delicate igloo
#

make everything in the game e

ancient quest
#

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

fallow lark
#

Make entire game deep fried and you get that one meme from 2017

kind gulch
#

Also as many decimal places as it fits with a reasonable text size is fine

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like 1.01442338e+55 for big boxes and 1.01e+55 for small boxes

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also don't put a space in the number

kind gulch
#

Make EVERYTHING scientific BTW

delicate igloo
#

me on my way to 1x10^0

cold phoenix
#

I'm going to guess that the 2 people who voted E are programmers bc that's how %e prints in some languages
as localthunk said, some player would be confused by the existence of the + in a game where the lowest possible hand score is 5

kind gulch
hidden kestrel
#

why do people prefer 3.13 e15 SO MUCH MORE than 3.15 E15

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also yes, I want to see 1000000 e-5

ancient quest