#Challenge Runs
flat flume
Fullskip (Boss Gauntlet)
Boosterless (No Arcana/Celestial/Spectral packs, even from skipping)
Poor Man's Challenge! (End every shop at $0)
rapid bough
challenge idea: special edition jokers only
you can only take special edition jokers into blinds/bosses
you're allowed to put non-special editions in your roster while in the shop though
you may use judgment in blinds but if you don't get a special edition you must immediately sell
technically no jokers does this challenge lol, maybe require a minimum number of them?
tiny frigate
I'm trying a jokerless run in #1158373350813483068
flat flume
Jokerless finished, level 10 Ceres
tiny frigate
YOOO
ITS POSSIBLE!
Questions: did you get the telescope voucher, if so when? How many times did you skip and what was the reward?
flat flume
I did get telescope, I think around ante 2
I believe this was a first blind skip for spectral? Would have to reboot the seed to remember tho
ah yeah, it wqas play first blind, save $10 for econ, skip 2nd blind, spectral into Sigil for some flush house synergy
flat flume
In progress Challenges:
- Max 1 Hand of each type
- Exactly 1 hand of each type
- Abandoned deck but you can only place faces
- No bonus mult (from any source) (this might be impossible)
hybrid lintel
does this include planet cards
knotty mirage
flat flume
does this include planet cards
Which challenge?
hybrid lintel
no bonus mult
hybrid lintel
Which challenge?
is the one i was wondering about
flat flume
It was originally suggested including no planets, but I think that's (near) impossible
flat flume
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1156142024089681930
Thread
Some cool ideas, but none of them are runnable today without being implemented in like an actual "challenge" mode
rapid bough
i figured no bonus mult might be too easy if you can level up the right planet enough so
knotty mirage
Some cool ideas, but none of them are runnable today without being implemented i...
Oh I see, sorry I missed that extra context
rapid bough
i've been trying out the Chips Only/No Extra Mult challenge for myself and this has been my best attempt
only had 2 rounds to go
it's surprisingly easy to force a flush house deck on abandoned ._.
this pretty much cements why i don't play abandoned lol
flat flume
That's crazy impressive still
rapid bough
i had to play 3 flush houses to beat the big blind there
the last one was a backup one I had in my back pocket since early on
rapid bough
dude, i can't. i got tripped up by my first hand of plant giving me literally all 5 of my 7s and i was too afraid to discard them. this was the god run
ice cream, odd todd, hiker, dusk, and a FOIL smear
i had every. single. odd card. turned black suit
fiery cove
i've been trying out the Chips Only/No Extra Mult challenge for myself and this ...
Gonna try this out too
fiery cove
go on
rapid bough
running it blind is cool too tho
rapid bough
so top three hands are flush house, 5oak, and straight flush. i've been trying to force flush house because it's at least double the base mult of the other two
fiery cove
god dammed spectral pack most uselesss shit ever
rapid bough
it may be possible to do non-flush house but i think it's easier to just take a single suit tarot or a lucky Sigil spectral and go for flush house
also, it may be a good idea to try resetting for Uncommon Joker tag to try and find something solid, especially something like Runner
fiery cove
i got one flush house at round 2
rapid bough
nice
fiery cove
ceres here i come
rapid bough
ceres counts as extra mult
fiery cove
fuck
rapid bough
lol
fiery cove
ok what counts for this run
rapid bough
lolol
extra hands are helpful though, like grabber and burglar
means you need less points per hand
fiery cove
i got grabber
another flush house
ok it might happen idk
bro so far
ok what is going on
i'm doing this both jokerless and multless
and i got telescope
i didn't grab it
but i could pivot from multless right now into just jokerless lmao what is this seed
rapid bough
lol
rapid bough
what does it give?
rapid bough
nice
rapid bough
i've recorded my attempts, im looking back at my last one to see what seeds got runner and other good jokers early ๐
fiery cove
oh shit true lemme also record my runs
dammit this is why you record your runs kids
i can't get past ante 1 again
fiery cove
yellow
fiery cove
but then you can't buy grabber
fiery cove
ok lemme try with abandonned
wait no it doesn't work
if i do that i can't buy the sun
for extra hearts
ok you might be able to
if i play this better
aw man one dollar away
ok it's not possible to get spec pack, sun card and grabber
rapid bough
rip
fiery cove
i'll try no grabber
then probably fail
is spec pack even worth it
it's only2 aces
there's also gold seal there but i dunno
rapid bough
that's usually the one people mean when they get excited for aces from a spectral
fiery cove
i wasn't exicted
grim sukcs
gold seal still sucks right
spec packs really need to be balanced better imo
we got the same suit and same value cards next to "here's a gold star conglturations"
rapid bough
lmao
fiery cove
is juggler worth
rapid bough
helps get through the deck faster, which is pretty good on abandoned
once your deck is consistent enough though, it should probably go
but that's not usually until late, because by then you need more than 1 flush house a blind
rapid bough
it does, but only the flush part
fiery cove
flush house no house
rapid bough
you still need all 5 full house cards. you can just make only 4 of them a flush
rapid bough
GL
fiery cove
loool wheel of fortune popped off
rapid bough
foil?
fiery cove
yup
fiery cove
dammit foil joker in shop but it's a mult one
rapid bough
which joker?
fiery cove
abstract
rapid bough
oof
if it was one of the ones that give mult for a hand type you never play, it'd be allowed
rapid bough
nice
fiery cove
it would be really funny if the first seed i try is the winning one
let's go i got past Water
rapid bough
nice
fiery cove
got past the 1 in 7 cards
ante 4
ok the game is scaling way too fast
i need some good jokers
damn ceres in shop thanks game
rapid bough
CANT
fiery cove
i know
rapid bough
oh wait was that sarcastic
fiery cove
yeah thanks game
rapid bough
my bad ๐
fiery cove
bro thjere's no jokers that deal with chips
where is my runner
why does scholar have to give fucking mult
crying rn
uh oh
scary face :weary:
alright verdant leaf
what we sellin
fucking egg
i got NO JOKERS this run
so close
rapid bough
bruh how you getting this far on your first seed ๐ญ
rapid bough
go for it ๐ช
fiery cove
what a view
i need to find a way to get stuff like hiker
hiker would be huge here
instead of runner
bro i got THREE FOILS
IN THE SHOP
ALONG WITH A WHEEL OF FORTUNE FOIL
the game wants me to win
rapid bough
runner has to be much stronger than hiker
well
nevermind, that's only true if you get runner early
fiery cove
yeah but only if i go straights
which i'm not
good thing i recorded this one
might do this tomorrow
rapid bough
aight
rapid bough
challenge idea: you're only allowed to play face cards the whole game
hybrid lintel
at all or counters
rapid bough
counters?
hybrid lintel
cards counting in score
hybrid lintel
pretty much
tiny sail
Challenge Idea: Find the winning hand.
You are given a seed that someone has beaten a run with. You must complete the run yourself and over the course assess:
- Which hand the player played the most.
- How many cards were played (forgiveness range of 30).
- What a player's best hand was (forgiveness range of 5000).
- What round the player finished at.
This is based on a scouts-honors challenge, as the challenger will post the winning run photo alongside their seed spoiler-warned. I will start off as such. I wish yall a best of luck on this challenge.
Run Code: 7ZCFMFE5
fiery cove
might do this tomorrow
it is tomorrow
my smart ass was like "wait i'm so stupid, i have gold foil on cards, just use glass cards!!!!!"
then i used it and was like "wait shit"
rapid bough
lel
fiery cove
ok so
if i am able to play 6 hands
in verdant leaf
i win
i can only play 5
hmmmmm
the trick here might be to play into odd todd
Cause you never get mist or whatever it's called
With mist I would win since it lets me play 6 hands
you might have to:
get 3 aces with the gold stamp of approval
4 9s, 2 7s, 2 5s and 2 3s
and put bonus on the aces
rapid bough
dusk, i think?
fiery cove
which is all possible
rapid bough
yeah
although that's just the cards and their buffs
odd todd and heirophant stuff
and base chips ๐ค
fiery cove
yea
oh true you don't get the 200x20
WAIT
i won with an extra 4040 chips
which means that if i had mist and no glass card on verdant leaf (i used only one glass card) i would've won with 50040
but dusk* isn't in the roation like at all
i tried
wait what
i'm playing past verdant leaf what's going on
what did this update do
oh
ok nvm
fiery cove
alright here we go agaain
i'm positive that going all in odd todd can make up like 12k points or smth
clearly
fiery cove
HOW THE HELL
AM I GETTING VARIANCE
IN THE SEED
SOMETIMES MY GOLD SEAL IN ON AN ACE, SOMETIMES IT'S ON A RANDOM DIAMOND CARD, SOMETIMES THE ACE DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP
tiny frigate
hmmm, maybe certain cards (assuming spectral) cards have different RNG values not connected to the seed/roll before use, and not upon generation
rapid bough
I DID IT
rapid bough
lel
rapid bough
abandoned
rapid bough
oh flush house
this seed had i think literally every good joker for the challenge
i have 3 hands left because of blueprint burglar
fiery cove
oh that's what you got
rapid bough
i had runner earlier on too, which i changed out for ice cream just for this fight
there might be a chance you can beat this without flush house
because of blueprint burglar
fiery cove
straight flush runner could be insane if you get it early
fiery cove
i think it can work if it's blind 1
rapid bough
challenge idea: restore the abandoned deck (add back all face cards)
also: max deck size (high score)
someone in catianking's chat brought up the idea of Xmult only, which i am doing some preliminary runs for
constellation start is really interesting
because you can't play the hands of the planets you select
rapid bough
Xmult only. easier than chips only lol
btw constellation start doesn't work, too much money. i found this one mid-run
rapid bough
monkaS
rapid bough
with blueprint+burglar and grabber voucher, you only need 4546 a hand, and flush house base is 4000
so uh
fiery cove
Oh god it might be possible
rapid bough
unless there's something i missed, you're gonna have to bend the rules a bit
because dusk is technically more chips :^)
so is hiker
rapid bough
๐ฐ
fiery cove
Visual modifications
fiery cove
Gold seal comes in clutch
fiery cove
Neither am i lol
rapid bough
challenge: scoring stone cards only :^)
||loophole: debuffed cards don't score even when part of the poker hand||
hybrid lintel
get some gold seal stone cards
rapid bough
for the purposes of the Exactsies Challenge: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16e-6700XlUXALElaxrPkaG6a_lhmFCd_rZ3KVsJb8wo/edit#gid=0 @flat flume
flat flume
SB3 Arcana cards
The Wheel, after 3 discards:
The Wheel after 3 discards & a hand
Wheel Post Arcana, 3 disc
With 1 hand played
rapid bough
10H was a face down card that got discarded
flat flume
Juggler + Spectral Grim
rapid bough
rapid bough
i think i just figured out the shortcut i needed for blueprint implementation
rapid bough
challenge ideas: color/letter restrictions
flat flume
Exactsies run:
rapid bough
beautiful ๐
flat flume
Challenge suggestion from mouse: time for one shot only. Beat every boss first hand played TehePelo have fun with water.
rapid bough
would anyone be interested in helping me find strategies/advantages for a straight flush only challenge run?
flat flume
I mean strategy has to be abandoned -> 4 fingers -> profit
But I'm interested for sure
rapid bough
cool
i actually wrote a python program earlier to see if abandoned or red deck was better at getting straight flushes
and it seems to be the case that red deck is better by about 23%
(relative to abandoned)
flat flume
Oh wait that makes a lot more sense
Idk why I defaulted to abandoned lol
alright, Red deck -> 4 fingers -> profit
flat flume
"The Water" - Don't use any discards
rapid bough
just got a seed that looks promising
1/3 rare skip into smear, into constellation + telescope
gonna try that seed again tomorrow
i am noticing though, that this challenge wasn't as interesting as i thought it'd be
tiny sail
Challenge Idea: Find the winning hand.
You are given a seed that someone has beaten a run with. You must complete the run yourself and over the course assess 4 things:
- Which hand the player played the most.
- How many cards were played (forgiveness range of 30).
- What a player's best hand was (forgiveness range of 5000).
- What round the player finished at.
This is based on a scouts-honors challenge, as the challenger will post the winning run photo alongside their seed spoiler-warned. I will start off as such. I wish yall a best of luck on this challenge.
Run Code: 7ZCFMFE5
tiny sail
I'm curious how well people can instantly recognize potential builds or combos
rapid bough
best attempt at straight flush only so far
getting past water feeling much more possible now :)
rapid bough
On the topic of a hypothetical No Skip Exactsies, I was trying some things with the spreadsheet and found out that one-shotting BB1 can be done with a joker that gives 2 or 1 mult (abstract, supernova, bus). I know one-shots aren't mandatory, but it's an optimization to take advantage of if given the opportunity
(i also checked planets, nothing works by themselves)
flat flume
Challenge Idea: Find the winning hand.
You are given a seed that someone has bea...
Oooh that's interesting. I'm confused on the scouts honor part
tiny sail
Oooh that's interesting. I'm confused on the scouts honor part
basically no looking at the spoiler until you complete a run
to confirm your answers
and then the first person who gets it right does the next challenge
flat flume
Oh I see the photo is spoilered as well
I thought you saw the end stats and wanted to get close to them
tiny sail
Nah, the idea is to take the seed, figure out how to win (or recognize particular strategies you see) and state your guesses from the run
rapid bough
i wonder if there's enough interest in challenges to have a forum channel about it ๐ค
hybrid lintel
challenge: scoring stone cards only :^)
I don't think this is possible
rapid bough
maybe
i might try to theorycraft how possible it is
because technically you can win the first round
but it's pretty difficult as it's almost a super-high-card-only run
hybrid lintel
You need multiple stone
But how would you get them
Wait it's possible with a God roll emperor and gold seal
You would need gold seal the an emperor to roll judgment and stone
rapid bough
sounds like we're on similar tracks ๐
what does judgment need to be, do you think? the way i saw to win the first round was four fingers into heart straight flush in Head
hybrid lintel
You would need mystic summet
rapid bough
oh yeah, i guess mult jokers work
hybrid lintel
Banana, basic joker, bus, supernova
This seem way easier now
It's just the start that's hard and the must play five cards boss
Ig I know what my next challenge run is
rapid bough
good luck ๐
hybrid lintel
It has to be not as bad as high card only right
rapid bough
:)
hybrid lintel
Or unseeded no joker
flat flume
I'm so interested
Agree though that as long as you make it through the early game it's not too bad as some other challenges
hybrid lintel
been at stone card only for 2 days the grind is rough
flat flume
I'll join ya
drifting spade
Re: Stone Only
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Arcana Skip: Emperor (Chariot and Tower)
Arcana Skip: Death copies Steel
Head: Discard until Stone + two Steel
Buy Foil Mad (for +30 chips only)
A2 Small: Stone + two Steel
Arcana: Tower
A2 Big: two Stone + two Steel
Arcana: Tower
Psychic: For true Stone only, it requires five Stone unless boss reroll. Otherwise, three Stone + two Steel wins.
Arcana: Hermit (+$16), Buy Juggler, Buy Overstock, Buy Blackboard
A3 Small: Requires some shuffler manipulation, but you can get your three Stone + two Steel with only black cards in hand. Gives about 4800 points, enough for the Big Blind.
Shop: Buy Ice Cream
A3 Big: With Ice Cream, we get about 6000 points, enough to beat the Water, too.
Spectral: Immolate
Basic joker offered but not necessary. Next shop has Misprint. Next shop has Nanner, Next shop has Summit (obtainable from Judgment Tarot)
drifting spade
I'm calling it the Raccoon Challenge.
Rules:
- You aren't allowed to use any jokers which give you Chips or Mult
- You aren't allowed to buy any Packs from the shop
Can be done with set seed or random seed. For the seeded version, we have two additional restrictions:
A) You aren't allowed to use any Skip Tags
B) You aren't allowed to buy any Tarot or Planet cards from the shop
steel cipher
for Raccoon if I were to get a chip/mult joker out of wraith or judgement would I just immediately discard?
drifting spade
Yeah, you sell the joker
steel cipher
ok sweet
steel cipher
man this is hard
for unseeded you basically need planet cards in the shop early or else you're dead past ante 2
drifting spade
Yeah, that's what I think makes it interesting.
You can reroll until you start with 8 Ball. Or reroll until DNA might be worthwhile. But then it's harder to get Planets. If you're playing Flush Houses, you don't need a lot of Planets, but you do need some. So shop Planets and Celestial Skip Tags are allowed in the random seed version.
I think the more interesting version is reroll until Superposition start. You don't get as many Tarot as 8 Ball (or Cartomancer), but you might still be able to get enough. Likely you still don't get enough Planets to win with Straights Only, so you need to plan around making Straights and possibly something else.
tiny sail
Challenge Idea: Do you know Balatro?
You are given a seed that someone has beaten a run with. You must complete the run yourself and over the course assess 4 things:
- Which hand the player played the most.
- How many cards were played (forgiveness range of 10).
- What a player's best hand was (forgiveness range of 3000).
- What round the player finished at.
This is based on a scouts-honors challenge (not allowed to unspoiler the photo until you complete the run and post your findings). When you post your "guesses," you ping the original post. If you get at least 3/4 correct, you win. The winner then gets to restart the cycle with a completed run of their own. Let's try this again!
Run Code: 8156GELU
drifting spade
Challenge Idea: Do you know Balatro?
You are given a seed that someone has beate...
Seed: X6H4G3MQ
tiny sail
Seed: X6H4G3MQ
Oh cool, can't see your guesses
What were they?
I'll try your seed and see what I come up with
tiny sail
Seed: X6H4G3MQ
Alright, my assessment
- Which hand the player played the most? Full House
- How many cards were played (forgiveness range of 10)? 152
- What's player's best hand was (forgiveness range of 3000)? 25000
- What round the player finished at? 14
drifting spade
Alright, my assessment
- Which hand the player played the most? Full House
- How...
Please, do go on
tiny sail
Now let's unspoiler
Makes sense oof
The Earths were just everywhere
but the spectral pack made it clear it had to be related to the Aces
LUL
failed
drifting spade
Aces? Why would I do that? lol
tiny sail
I did get Cards Played close
tiny sail
Aces? Why would I do that? lol
The amount of times I saw the Aces Joker was enormous
ntm the amount of Ace synergistic jokers was insane too
Only thing I got close was the Cards played, nothing else though LUL
drifting spade
Final hand was a Flush House of three Glass 7's and two Glass 6's
tiny sail
ah yea
Saw a lot of Glass stuff too
Wasn't thinking one-shot gaming
just consistent good hand gamings
drifting spade
Most runs, you get to a point where every round is winnable with exactly one hand of 5 cards. So the window for number of cards played is relatively narrow
Since there was an 8 Ball, I thought you might have guessed that regular pairs were the most played hand
tiny sail
I did notice that
drifting spade
My second most played hand was only 3 times
tiny sail
but with all the Full House I saw
drifting spade
because I spread out my 8's over different hands
drifting spade
Round 14 means you took an extra Skip that I didn't
I thought about skipping all of Ante 5 just to throw you off
Most runs will be 15 rounds, taking a skip in Ante 1 or be the full 16 rounds. Very rarely is it worth it to go for skips later in the run
tiny sail
I took the second Spectral Pack skip
get two more Aces
that's what really threw me to the whole Ace idea
drifting spade
Oh, no one takes that one
drifting spade
well, not no one obviously, but it's not very popular for sure
Also, every seed is winnable with Flush House. And very little joker support is needed for scoring. You can sometimes win entirely jokerless. More than 50% of the time you can win even though you sell all of your jokers before the final hand.
So it makes the "guess what was the most played hand" kind of moot
Again, not every seed, but in 500 hours of playing, I haven't encountered one that wasn't
rapid bough
we're back to the chips only grind
This seed has early vagabond and a standard pack Red Seal Foil Bonus card. You couldn't ask for better luck.
hybrid lintel
bull will help
flat flume
we're back to the chips only grind
I thought you already had a success with chips only?
flat flume
Challenge (started off as a C++ run lmao). Quintuple Eternal Rental
rapid bough
worthy of necromancing this thread