#DataMaps Discussion

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boreal frigate
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A place to discuss our datamaps!

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@teal warren @zinc plinth Here we go!

boreal frigate
zinc plinth
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We should prob put the big challenges chests with the balloons

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teal warren
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can we hide certain markers?

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🤔

boreal frigate
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Like in the menu?

teal warren
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okay i think i know how the toggle works

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let me think

boreal frigate
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YAYYYYYY!!!

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I was thinking, it would be kinda nice to have a toggle for events & also weather spawns for the maps. But only if it's not super complicated cause otherwise I think it's fine as is.

teal warren
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hmmm or maybe not?

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need to fiddle more

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maybe ark is special?

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that was a while back though

boreal frigate
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Ohhh!! Interestingggg

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So we could get a custom script? Do we need one for it to work? Hmmm.

teal warren
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@boreal frigate I think I’m going to move the data plots you put for event currency in the seaside resort map into the event map

zinc plinth
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is there any way to have certain items start not selected?

teal warren
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well

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thats the whole toggle thing we're waiting for

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but it wont be implemented

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until next update

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but they wouldve been a separate map anyways

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like a fragment layer

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at least so i think

zinc plinth
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i guess i meant if there was a way to start having data points untoggled rather than having everything selected at the start

teal warren
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Oh I also wondered about that

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I will ask

boreal frigate
teal warren
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@zinc plinth @boreal frigate

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teal warren
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what do you think about embedding map like this

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we might have to put like a note that says

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Zoom

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okay i got the toggles stuff to work

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so event map now only shows luck and lanterns

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we could either

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or

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to be honest

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i think to have it fit properly we need to change the bottom and top coordinate defaults

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actually

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yeah so i fixed the coordinates for the luck and lanterns map

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now the map loads fit to width

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will probably have to remap the other ones

boreal frigate
teal warren
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I feel like on mobile it looks fine but on pc it’s pretty big LOL

boreal frigate
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Yeah, I agree!!!

teal warren
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Blergh

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Also do you think we should do individual event maps

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Or like keep them in one

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And untoggle the ones not active

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Lowkey I feel like maybe doing separate ones look more clean

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🤔

boreal frigate
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Is there a way we can make it on the right side instead of the left on the page?

teal warren
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Yes!

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I think Alex said we can do thumbnail

boreal frigate
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Oooo!

teal warren
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When I’m done with the quests

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I’ll look into remapping the coordinates like I did with the L&L

boreal frigate
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Separate ones def look more clean — I just think about updating things in the future where we might have to edit the two maps instead of just one map, so idk 😅

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Butttt that's just me being lazy

teal warren
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So

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Actually idk when we would have to edit two maps

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Cuz I already took out event stuff

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In the seaside resort map

boreal frigate
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OH!

teal warren
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It’s separate

boreal frigate
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wait i might be confusion

teal warren
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Oh unless you’re talking about the overall event map

boreal frigate
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Is Event Map/Luck and Lanterns different from Event Map? Would we have to update both Event Map/Luck and Lanterns and Event Map?

teal warren
boreal frigate
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Hmmm, true true! Good point!

teal warren
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Hmmmmmm

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so if you use one event map

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I guess that’s feasible?

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🤔

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It’s just going to show the other stuff

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well no

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See you can’t just toggle on the event map for each separate event page

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If has to be like what’s the active event at the moment if you know what I mean

boreal frigate
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That works, I think? But once they add the toggle stuff to the map stuff, would we be able to toggle it then? Maybe we just have to wait.

boreal frigate
teal warren
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Cuz then we’d put the same event map across different events

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But if we toggle off everything but the current event

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It would reflect across all of them

boreal frigate
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Is there a way to have everything off and then the person can select which one to turn on?

teal warren
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I have an idea, but I need to poke around a little bit

boreal frigate
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Praying for you 🫂 I am literally so impressed with everything you've been doing

teal warren
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This is what happens when I’m super procrastinating it’s the worst LOLOLOL

boreal frigate
teal warren
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man

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is there a mathematical way to remap the coordinates

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So I think this is the solution

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We will do separate event maps that are considered “fragments”

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They’re considered embeds

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We can embed each fragment map into each separate event page

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But all of those fragments will be consolidated in an event map

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So technically we only have to edit individual maps once

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I think my brain is too dumb for this

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Is there a way to scale the coordinates upward

warped sinew
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@boreal frigate I'm ready to update the comics locations on Gemstone Mountain. I can see the latitude and longitude in the map source file, but I can't see how to determine what those are for a point that is not already marked on the map. Could you please tell me how?

boreal frigate
# warped sinew <@525424312006737920> I'm ready to update the comics locations on Gemstone Mount...

Hi! Thank you so so much for taking the time to put together the locations!

What I usually do for duplicates is include all the plot points/coordinates I have in the list, then press the "Preview" tab, if there are any duplicates, I can click on the icon on the map to find the coordinates, then delete those from the source file!

Lemme try putting together a video to show you ❤️

EDIT: Video was too big to upload here ): but maybe I can make a tutorial for the wiki.

waxen swift
boreal frigate
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There are two ways I usually do it!

my friend made me a program using LÖVE to help map the coordinates (but idk if I can send it in here & you gotta download LOVE to use it) and I also have to reverse the x & y coords to get the lat & lon coords (& it doesn't have ||the moon ||map yet).

The second way I do it is, on the map, in the lower left corner, you'll see the lat & lon of your mouse cursor. Then, I get a notepad and write down each coordinate & once I finish put it in JSON format.

The last coordinate in the list shouldn't have a comma after it, like this:

"ComicBooks": [
            { "lat": 411.67, "lon": 402.16 },
            { "lat": 456.54, "lon": 324.84 },
            { "lat": 427.85, "lon": 453.9 },
            { "lat": 454.84, "lon": 432.06 },
            { "lat": 498.14, "lon": 488.44 },
            { "lat": 571.62, "lon": 312.77 },
            { "lat": 547.2, "lon": 417.76 },
            { "lat": 528.39, "lon": 445.7 },
            { "lat": 569.1, "lon": 271.22 },
            { "lat": 506.02, "lon": 275.51 },
            { "lat": 478.47, "lon": 266.12 } <-- here no comma
],
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warped sinew
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I had found the list in the JSON but not the mouse cursor coordinates. Thanks.

boreal frigate
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I hope that was helpful!! The lat/lon coords are hard to see in dark mode so I use the light mode to map stuff! I also double-check my work to see if any of the coords using the preview button!

warped sinew
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I’ll try to get them up today. Then I’ll be away for the next couple of weeks at a conference, board meeting, and travel, but when I get back, I’ll check the other biomes; the Reef certainly has a lot of new spawn points that aren’t on the existing map.

boreal frigate
warped sinew
# boreal frigate I hope that was helpful!! The lat/lon coords are hard to see in dark mode so I u...

I've added ten Gemstone Mountain comic spawn points, and after several attempts it accepted the JSON as valid, but they're not showing up on the wiki (but were in the preview). I presume it's a caching issue and simply a matter of time.

I also have them all on a png map I made in Illustrator but will wait until I'm sure of all the spots before I add that. (There's one potential new spot and two old ones that I'm not sure of and will keep watching for.)

boreal frigate
warped sinew
boreal frigate
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Forwarding it here!

If you have a laptop or computer device, it's a lot easier to work on the maps.

To answer your questions:

"How do we find the locations?"
We find the locations from people who have taken screenshots. Every one-time collect item — like the ones you find in gift flowers, treasure chests, etc. have screenshots of their locations. I reference each location from the item's wiki page or screenshots from the discord server.
I also use maps that I've made or others have made of spawn locations of items.

"How to get map coordinates?"
In the bottom left corner, when you hover your mouse, you'll see coordinates at the bottom of the map screen. Those coordinates are where your mouse is currently being hovered.

The in-game map does not have actual coordinates — we use JSON to create coordinates to plot them onto the image.

I'll take a video on how I create lists of coordinates and share that here — give me a few minutes!

Essentially, the most important steps I use:

  • Hover the mouse over the map.
  • In the lower left corner, you'll see the lat & lon of your mouse cursor.
  • Get a notepad and write down each coordinate's lat and lon — (DO NOT move your mouse).
  • Once I finish all the items I'd like to plot, put coordinates into JSON format.

Example JSON:

"ComicBooks": [
            { "lat": 411.67, "lon": 402.16 },
            { "lat": 456.54, "lon": 324.84 },
            { "lat": 427.85, "lon": 453.9 },
            { "lat": 454.84, "lon": 432.06 },
            { "lat": 498.14, "lon": 488.44 },
            { "lat": 571.62, "lon": 312.77 },
            { "lat": 547.2, "lon": 417.76 },
            { "lat": 528.39, "lon": 445.7 },
            { "lat": 569.1, "lon": 271.22 },
            { "lat": 506.02, "lon": 275.51 },
            { "lat": 478.47, "lon": 266.12 } <-- here no comma
],
boreal frigate
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If someone isn't comfortable editing the map page cause they aren't familiar with JSON — they can write down all the coordinates on the map's talk page, or my User talk page, and then I can convert it into JSON for them.

boreal frigate
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@pearl steeple

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pearl steeple
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Thank you! I'll see what I can do when I get a second

pearl steeple
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@boreal frigate Hi! I'm sat down to work on the maps now. Just went to plot rainbow reef gudetama, but the rainbow reef JSON map doesnt quite cover all the spots. For example, I can't plot the one from the image RR-Gudetama 1-Map.png because that area is beyond the map bounds. What do you suggest we do?

boreal frigate
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Probably at

pearl steeple
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Okay, I did all the gudetama except 1 and 5. I am visiting the location from the screenshot in my game to make sure that screenshot is actually of that location, but I couldn't find the exact spot of #5 as in the screenshot. I'll fix #1 now

boreal frigate
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Some of the maps aren't going to align perfectly with the in-game map since the image we're using for the DataMap is the old map version. & we didn't update the image because then we'd have to update every single plot point — plus, I find the non-3D map to be easier to map things on instead of the 3D one. 🙏

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  • The 3D map & the non-3D map are the same, just a slight angle difference.
pearl steeple
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right, but when I go to lat 301.23, lon 281.27 in game, I don't see the spot in RR-Gudetama 5-Game.png. The spot in RR-Gudetama 6-Game.png is definitely lat 298.43, lon 279.26, don't you think? The JSON map is definitely easier to use than the in-game one. That's why I'm going to the places in-game to make sure I'm translating the 3D map to the JSON one accurately

boreal frigate
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Brb

pearl steeple
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I fixed #1 and I'll leave #5 for you to make a decision about

boreal frigate
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Perfect!!

boreal frigate
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It's near ship

pearl steeple
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omgg

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so the pic of the in-game map was actually right, just seriously confusing because of the angle!!

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ok I fixed 5, so now RR gudetama are done

boreal frigate
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I think I’m gonna redo some of the gudetama screenshots at some point bc the lack of content around the area makes it hard to find.

pearl steeple
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ok I'm going to do crystal caves gudetama now

pearl steeple
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also are we even sure theres ANY shinies in crystal caves? I havent been in there in days but I couldn't find any. If not, they can be removed from the list of things to map?

waxen swift
pearl steeple
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ok. Ive fixed the crystal cave golden chest, added the gudetamas, fixed one almanac location, removed the unneeded groups from the map, and updated the "updates needed" banner

pearl steeple
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finished merry meadow almanacs. any suggestions on where to put coordinates for almanac #14?

pearl steeple
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finished cloud island almanacs except #14

boreal frigate
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Sorry I was AFK!

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Oh, we can just remove 14 since that's a random spawn chance.

pearl steeple
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I was doing the city town gudetama and I'm confused about the ones in manhole covers. #3, 4, and 5 are all shown in the pictures as being in/on a manhole cover that doesn't exist in my game?? Do you know if the manhole covers disappear when the gudetama does?

boreal frigate
pearl steeple
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I think they must, because the vent thing that #11 is in is gone too

boreal frigate
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Oh perfect then!

pearl steeple
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Do you think it would be nice to put the vent locations in the sewer map? If so, is there a good icon for that? Also, is there a reason that fast travel locations aren't marked any the maps?

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finished orange crates and gudetama for the sewers