#Arena def suggestions

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manic folio
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Currently I hover between g2/g3 during arena rush, and while I'm happy with my offenses, my defense has always been pretty bad.
I dont have vanessa for a 33 lead, so I've been using psamathe, and I don't have triton, so I've been experimenting with zen/wedjat

What I'm wondering is is ereshion + kabilla + followup a decent ad to replace my current def - psamathe wedjat fire jin veromos?
Or should I stick with current def and maybe change some stuff out?
Would love any suggestions

brittle dagger
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nvm i see it

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wedjat is kinda weird

manic folio
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uh should've separated the def ig

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im not happy bout it, but no triton so im not sure of good replacements

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so was wondering if ereshion kab was a better def

brittle dagger
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i wouldn't use kab

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a large portion of AO is always going to be t2

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and kab is free for them

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fire jin already discourages a lot of cleaves

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i dunno what your box looks like, but i would try various things in place of wedjat

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could be a bruiser that's annoying to cleave like parjanya or byung

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could be a bruiser that adds a lot of dmg like sav

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could be something that discourages some cleaves that fire jin doesn't, like maybe amduat

manic folio
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wait did i say wedjat

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i meant amudat

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orz

brittle dagger
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lol

manic folio
brittle dagger
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yea try some other bruisers

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also how are these runed?

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when you're going for high guardian ranks you do have to try to get def wins

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outside of a bunch of ld5s, there's literally nothing you can run that will stop people from attacking you

manic folio
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psamathe despair nem, amduat despair seal, jin despair shield, veromos vio will (its on my lami ao)

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maybe savannah over fire jin? no byung/parj

brittle dagger
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keep the fire jin i think he's more annoying than amduat

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you have to show stats...

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manic folio
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maybe jin on dmg set

brittle dagger
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why is jin slower than vero

manic folio
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huh? why does that matter

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his s2 doesnt strip or anything

brittle dagger
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wait sorry

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nvm i meant amduat but he is faster i miscalculated

manic folio
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with lead should outspd

brittle dagger
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your stuff is all too standard and on the weak side

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people attacking you know that they can beat you and there are no surprises

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you need to rune your stuff either better, or different

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for example you can try some things super tanky. stack multiple shield sets. put jin on a cd build. make amduat swift (if you're keeping him)

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don't have to do all or even any of them, but that's the kind of thing you have to think about and do

manic folio
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i thought despair amduat/despair jin randomly strip stunning stuff qualified as surprises

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can try jin on cd build to help against t2 more

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is the main weakness of this def atm t2?

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or can it be cleaved easily

brittle dagger
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surprise means the units are built in a way that you wouldn't expect

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you expect amduat to be despair

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so a surprise would be putting amduat on swift

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because currently with his despair build, i can lushen this def pretty easily

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swift amduat + something tuned behind him would counter my lushen

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now i'm not saying everyone is lushening your def, because honestly very few people lushen anymore

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it's just an example

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and yea i think a lot of people are just t2ing this. it has sort of low damage due to no def breaks, and not strong strip so you can do like leo christina pretty easily

manic folio
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now that u mnetion it, id prob leo christina my own def

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would dmg over amduat/jin be better?

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but without amduat theres no spd contesting against some cleaves

brittle dagger
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you can test replacing different things

manic folio
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can try jin on cd for now ig, or savannah over jin for a def break