Revanant PvP help thread

[uncut ice]

Want to focus on siege again and would like some help from helpful seniors

Hi yall!!

uhmm

so I'm reading beginner pvp alongside start properly building my box

this is my sw import

my attempt to copy beginner pvp sets

[uncut ice]

my best swift set

however it did use this rune which is ideal for a nuker or tiana so I tried for the second fastest possible options which is 4 spd slower

is it a okay sacrifice?

[tame mesa]

everything roughly looks fine, focus more on fighting real defs and going over losses than just blindly building stuff though

atk/cr is great for adriana, in fact oftentimes i prefer her as a damage dealer rather than a tank

[uncut ice]

omg tysm

yes I'll prepare for siege tommorow real quick and gonna post the losses

I guess I'm gonna need a tetra at least, she seems like the most important water support for siege. you did mention that tetra "barely" need skillup to work so maybe I should keep the other tetra in case I need dupe and just start skilling one main tetra?

also I'm starting to make the double snipe offense and I have a question tho

so as I learn from beginner pvp, the double snipe team include a booster (mainly praline but need to adapt to other booster depend on who need to be soloed on 3v1) and 2 sniper

[uncut ice]

I guess I can keep sharing this set for praline and other booster

but regarding the sniper do I have to rune every single of them?

and because praline also come with crit buff, do I need a 70 crit set and a 100 crit set?

yeah I'm pretty sure I won't have enough rune for that so is there a sweet spot I can start, right now it's Praline Cov Kahli like ?doublesnipe teach

[uncut ice]

if this calculation is correct that mean my cov need +188 spd and kahli need +182 spd

[uncut ice]

I will throw in crit gem and atk+ gem once I farmed enough of them

but this is my best attempt now

[tame mesa]

yes you realized it's difficult to share sniper sets

not sure how many you have, but you end up having to rune most of them at least. if you have to you can swap some runes around but not entire sets

[tame mesa]

this is not quite right, you want to tune both of your snipers to your praline. currently with those calculations you only tuned kahli but not cov

use https://swspeedtuner.com for speed tuning, its much easier to use

[tame mesa]

this isn't too bad

[uncut ice]

I might have to keep the "tuned to praline sets" I made above and swap set around because honestly I can't afford all the snipers runed

I have all the f2p sniper and sonia, rigna

which are kahli, cov, water kahli, light kahli

[uncut ice]

hmm I take this as "keep your praline tuned sets as default but change when you use other boosters"

is that right?

[tame mesa]

sonia and rigna are runed completely different from the other snipers though

[tame mesa]

maybe it's better if you talk in more specifics

what are the other teams you'd use? or are you using multiple pralines?

[uncut ice]

yes I am using many praline

I have 2 lvl 40 atm, fr that team is just so fun and simple to execute

[tame mesa]

oh i see

[uncut ice]

I think adriana will always take rigna with her so that keep sonia in the double snipe team

[tame mesa]

it's kinda up to you then, if you have the motivation for it, you can partially swap runes to optimize each sniper

[uncut ice]

also I have 2 megan, a 2a colleen, a hongyeon in case I need to switch

[tame mesa]

if you just want presets, then yea you can have like 1 set that has enough CR for snipers that don't awaken CR, and higher spd for snipers that have low base spd

and just swap that around. and just be ok with wasting some stats

[uncut ice]

wasting some stats huh

is there a safe number for how much can I hit and still be safe?

[tame mesa]

like if you want 1 set that works with both kahli and cov

cov has CR awakening, kahli does not

so the same set on cov will "waste" some CR if you want it to hit 100 cr on kahli

[uncut ice]

15 cr

[tame mesa]

yes

there is never going to be a safe number in terms of damage

that is the nature of pvp

you're competing against another person who can always build their monsters to be tankier

[uncut ice]

[tame mesa]

also note this issue is going to go away with the update at the end of this month

soon you will be able to set specific runes and artis for each deck preset

[uncut ice]

so at the mean time I get I can keep these 2 build and switch around rune before sniping?

[tame mesa]

yea

that's for the praline snipers like cov, kahli, ellena, shren

for rigna and sonia those are completely different and should be tuned with a different booster (one that also provides spd buff)

[uncut ice]

how should I rune rigna and sonia if that the case

like, since cov and kahli already take some of the fastest damage runes I have

I'm not sure if I can afford a good enough 3rd set

maybe I can try and let you judge if that 3rd set is acceptable, I read rigna can auto crit so that help a lot

is that ok?

[uncut ice]

also I have some more genericc question regarding picking monsters in offense (mainly bruiser team)

would you mind?

[tame mesa]

of course

you can ask, but best would always to have specific examples in mind

even if you're not in a siege right now

you can look on the siege map, look at your guildies defs

you need that frame of reference to ask and understand these questions

[uncut ice]

ty man you're just so helpful

so, uhm should I make a seperate 3rd set for rigna?

[tame mesa]

yes, try it

rigna doesn't need CR at all

so oftentimes you'll find these runes for her are completely different than for kahli

on kahli you're looking for runes with high spd and also high cr, it's hard to use a rune for kahli that has no cr

but on rigna cr does nothing, so you're just looking for spd + atk/cd

[uncut ice]

got it

and regarding sonia

well she is wind so it's not like we gonna use her with praline

[tame mesa]

again, you should avoid using sonia with praline

[uncut ice]

kinda beat the purpose of 3v1 with praline tank

[tame mesa]

not that you can't, but you're kinda wasting sonia's advantage

pick out an atk/spd buffer to use with rigna/sonia

adriana is the most common one. if you dont' have her, pick her from the upcoming event

meanwhile, hraes is a good substitute if you dont have adriana

[uncut ice]

I have one single adriana

[tame mesa]

you can use mihyang adriana rigna, mihyang hraes sonia

for example

[uncut ice]

I see

tysm

should I really try to make a nice 100 cr set for sonia

[tame mesa]

with sonia, because she gets a ton of free dmg from her passive

[uncut ice]

I'll try my best

[tame mesa]

you don't have to use slot 4 cd on her

you can use slot 4 cr for sonia

[uncut ice]

wow

she is that powerful?

[tame mesa]

and that way she ends up using different runes for her than other snipers too, so she can have her own set

[uncut ice]

noted it's so useful

[tame mesa]

yea check out her passive

basically you get a free 50% dmg buff

she also has extremely high base spd, so very easy to rune her

[uncut ice]

noted

so now it's 4 rune set for 4 sniper

I'll build them and show it for you when I have time

regarding questions about bruisering

how do you decide to use a support/bruiser/damage other than the other?

lemme explain

ok so this is a case where we have a jubelle who tank 2 non crit light bruiser

then fiona can be tanked by a single bruiser who also diss out damage

I get it that he use jubelle instead of jultan because these 2 monster can be built without crit and help with the passive, did he do it right?

then also here we have the racuni who is a fire support that can cleanse 2 debuff on one unit, why don't use a lala who can cleanse fiona aoe s3?

is there a situation in that make you think "I need a fire support here and between racuni and lala, Imma pick lala"?

[uncut ice]

Hmm đi I ask something I shouldn't?

Or maybe question was too vague?

[shut furnace]

Can you post your box?

[tame mesa]

the def sucks and the differences between the specific monsters you're asking about are too small to matter in this case

focus on playing stuff yourself and going over losses

[uncut ice]

I understand

thank you for your help so far

I'll show you my losses

[uncut ice]

is this an acceptable lushen?

I'm using slot 3 and slot 5 purple rune and still can't do anything about this rage rune (fuck karzhan drop)

[tame mesa]

as long as it's the best you can do it's fine

[uncut ice]

This siege there is 2 big loss I wanna discuss

For the first one, tbh both gojo and sav are too dangerous

I figure I need wind steing here?

[uncut ice]

is there something wrong in the way I ask?

I'm sorry if that happen

[worthy ridge]

just use your main discord acc….

[uncut ice]

I'd rather keep that out tho, is it bad if I use my alt for game related stuffs?

Imma follow rules and leave if I got demanded to

Hope that's ok?

[indigo mist]

Mhw Racuni gyomei/windy second one is probably good enough

[uncut ice]

Ty

When do we want to split damage. And when do we not?

[indigo mist]

Think cami windy Racuni or yeonhwa cami Racuni works for first. You need to kill the fire gojo quickly

[uncut ice]

I see so basically I got the idea but bad execution/unit pick?

I rrally did fail at that attpt because gojo was an arsehole

Ty for your help imma try again

[shut furnace]

It’s super weird for you to be in the same server using 2 accounts at the same time tbh

[uncut ice]

in this particular win tho

I got lushen trapped

still win due to sack but it's not reliable

[uncut ice]

was I dumb for lushening this

omg I'm so dumb I just think about that and see "3 non tank monster, lushenable" but then they built full tank and have shield on

[indigo mist]

I'm not the right person to ask. I don't really use lushen. I think lushening is inting most of the time unless you're relying on scouting. If you have no idea how to hit it, sure, it's fine.

[uncut ice]

I'm afraid tagging might upset jx9

such a dillemma

[uncut ice]

how do I fight platy eshir vritra

I'm thinking eshir tetra lulu and try my best to not die