#Moving on from ?kyledbah

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ornate shell
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Hey, I'm a returning player and Ive been using the Kyle team for quite some time now. Ive got a fully skilled Liam and Julie in my Box and pretty decent runes and my runs are 100% averaging 55 seconds without optimized artifacts so I wanna give a faster team a shot. However, I don't have Luna and don't seem to find any alternative version to the team posted by jx9 without Luna. Any help is appreciated :)

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i guess what im asking what is the next best step to take. theres the shaina konamiya version and also others

fathom dragon
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how fast is your current team?

ornate shell
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0:55-1:00 or something

fathom dragon
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kyle team should be significantly faster than that

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you're doing something wrong or have bad runes

ornate shell
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oh yea its not optimized

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i just thought its worth reinvesting effort into a faster team

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rather than optimizing this for a few extra seconds

fathom dragon
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Thanks for watching ♪♫

TLDW:
Turn order: Loren - Shaina - Frodo - Sabrina - Verde
Loren: +121 speed, 65 acc
Shaina: +89 speed, 40 acc
Frodo: +87 speed, 15 acc
Sabrina: +91 speed, 40 acc
Verde: +55 speed
Acc on shaina, sabrina and frodo is optional.

Discord:
https://discord.com/invite/wh3J7xebYa

Speed tuning chart:
https://swcalc.cz/?share...

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ornate shell
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how fast can this team go?

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kyle i mean

fathom dragon
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40-45s

ornate shell
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i see

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that looks really promising actually oo ill check it out ty.

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wasted liam devils ig

granite tendon
# ornate shell wasted liam devils ig

if you want to try another team that uses liam, you can try this team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhS_IyO3sow

Feels like a tech regression, but regardless, this is the new fastest team.
To make any further meaningful progress, we will have to wait until people get good enough runes to Oneshot waves with Julie.

Optimized the runes a bit more and now its more consistent - 21.7s average
https://swcalc.cz/team-variant-detail?variation=b5E9u8yyO0vdF6kZ

If...

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fathom dragon
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he said he doesn't have luna

ornate shell
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I have brought down my average to 50 seconds with some optimization

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think I could go further but I'm fine as is for now

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thanks

strange grail
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Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfy1NzIVakg
TLDW:
Teon: +190 or more on swift (189 on non-swift)
Agrius: whatever speed makes him 364 combat speed or more (+160 with no speed up effect)
Kona: +100 to agrius speed (+101 if unawakened)
Nezuko/bird dancer: +70 to kona speed (Minimum nezuko speed scales with agrius speed, if you have...

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very low rune requirements and much faster

fathom dragon
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this is a good team but don't fall for the clickbait of "easy to rune"

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it is easy to rune for an end game player. definitely not possible for someone already struggling with the dragons teams that have been discussed above

strange grail
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oh I didn't realize it was a rune quality issue here

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though I do run this team myself and it has much lower rune reqs than the kyle teams

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just need julie to clear waves at 0 speed with atk buff

granite tendon
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i might be omega wrong so im more asking than saying but wouldnt kyle be a ok replacement for luna?

fathom dragon
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no

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stop trying to make up your own pve teams or combine random parts from multiple different teams/guides

old pawn
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Since Agrius nerf

swift totem
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julie clears waves so agrius nerf shouldnt matter for this team

old pawn