#RTA help please. Currently sitting around 1300 rank.
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For the 5* select this event I picked Sonia. I also just pulled Wind Art Master.
Usually my draft starts with Vanessa and Seara for a guarantees speed lead. Then I go into Gapsoo, Sonia, Skemett.... Sometimes a Chow or Lakia. Also been using Eshir a bit and noticed some sustain teams crush me and I have done well with some sustain teams where I can keep heals up and my units alive.
You're leaning very heavily into turn 1 but lacking good following up here, so yes a sustain team will usually crush it very easily
You'll need to learn how to pivot out of hard turn 1
Are these all your nat5?
Not all, but all of my nat5 which I think are best suited for RTA
No Oliver or jeong?
Nope, I thought about getting Oliver instead of Haegang for the 5* select but ended up with Haegang since I already have Vanessa, Seara, and Water Twins for speed leads.
From whether u gain or lost points
ok so you can remove a few units crom there to start with, byung, inosukes, rigna, water mk and chakra, you dont need a lot of units
you need a couple cores
and then you need to understand drafts
okeanos and ashour are also iffy if you dont have really good runes and artifacts
also dont use dark undine, very fun unit but thats it, its not viable
I dont have dark Undine... My units are on the left
These are the only ones I have runed.
oh thats better, only thing there that makes little sense is byung
You dont like Byungchul?
t1?
not much more than that
turn 1
Oh
Well water art master and wind art master are good T2 units?
for a control comp?
you have adriana right?
when u go nessa and seara then adding gapsoo and laika or gapsoo and chow don't seem to make too much sense, unless they are ur last pick that hard counters enemy draft
Yeah, havent used Adrianna yet
haegang is more of a 'oh shit' unit, it works as a deterrent to cc cleave and in general strip comps like gianas, loras etc
people like to go like
nessa fp
then adriana and sonia 2/3 p
Laika has done well in a couple matches. The sustain has done well for me. Chow never seems to do much, lol
get adriana in there if you want to use sonia
then u choose ur 4/5 based on enemy draft
laika is just a counterpick, last pick
^
What if they ban Vanessa? Then I lose speed lead?
u can slot another speed lead in 4th or 5th
You like the Seara pick or think I need to learn how to use water twins?
you have water twins there
Sonia probably gets banned most of the time when I pick her
first pick twins instead of vanessa
its a way more complete unit than vanessa for most comps imo
u can pick rigna along
rigna without adriana just stands there
so avoid rigna
I would just take her out of the box tbh lol
ah that needs a lot of work
its not gonna ignore much without adriana and too slow and not 100 cr
plus artis are a bit bad
She does a lot better since I dropped CD slot 4 and put Attack
Yeah, she gets Vanessa or Seara lead but no attack buff or speed buff unless I took Eshir
unless u got super good quality runes
use cr 4 slot
that will be much easier for you to rune her up
speed cr attack
She is at 97%, that is not horrible...
I think I was waiting on one stone so I could change and get a little more crit to hit 100%
3% chance of throwing matches is 3% non wanted odds
anyway i think one thing at a time. ur box is more t1 friendly than t2. so i'd focus on running ur cores on t1 teams
Is my Sonia fast enough to do T1?
depends on where u are
yeah, i think the generic advice here is, keep farming giants, and r5
better runes
staying 1300+ should be no issue really
Yeah, I farm R5 almost non-stop when I can
overall i think ur swift units are not fast enough
ok I would probably advise you to actually try t2 based on your runed
runes*
the units are too slow
So would it be easier for me to go T2 then since you say that?
do u have good vio runes to pull off?
ethna is one of those units you shouldnt even consider if you dont have basically g3 runes
she is kinda useless without really good runes
I cant rune a proper ethna
a good one from Dale for example
That is... fasst
What rank are you @toxic meteor
Oh, thats not your ethna? That is "Dale's"?
@Han I have a lot of violent, I can link some of my vio units
Violent Units:
t1 and t2 teams require differnt sets of runes
i think u can have them all ready, and draft accordingly
Miles is Vio / Will. Gapsoo is Vio / Nemesis. Byun is Vio / Broken
Shield over will for miles 100%
@rain raven this guy
I think I like swift also better on Miles vs Violent
I wouldnt really do byung for rta
currently P3, gonna try to end G2 this season
vio>swift on miles
miles needs vio
I am not attacked to Byun. I am going to remove runes on a few and go back to the same 6-8 units again
its one of those units that have foolproof kits
if it goes 2 turns, something might die
Miles should be Speed / HP / HP though... right?
I really have no idea why I did CD, lol
With a decent vio shield set you're faster than a few swift units because of his passive
Swift set just wastes his bruiser potential
Yes
Adrianna is T2 unit that will help me?
speed hp hp or def if you want to donia trap, on violent shield
adriana is a t1 unit
T1 even though no attack bar increase? Thats why I think Eshir has done well for me the attack bar boost has helped me 1st turn a few times.
what is adriana base speed
I dont see tesarion, he'll be quite clutch as a t2 unit
and what does her s3 do
that should answer you
I even have Vaness on swift
So you think T2 focus instead of T1 like I am doing now?
Yeah. Your runes dont support t1, by a large margin
Haegang is good for T2, right?
Only when it makes sense
haegang is a counter unit
aside from specific comps that require him
like layla comps
Hey, I get 1st turn maybe 60% of the time... I just dont do enough on 1st turn to really put me with enough advantage.
Not against a T2 comp though
So what units should I focus on T2... Like standard 6-8?
If u doing 1st turn comp, u need to take 1st turn 95% of the time
U take first turn 60% of the time, and then lose 50% of thay 60%
Thats pretty bad
I am not against T2... So what like 8 units would you mostly focus on? Even T2 I want speed right? So I dont get lapped or anything but I can use Violent over swift since it matters less to move 1st?
You'll need speed that makes sense yeah. Show your whole box and we can see
Whole box would take a while. I have most 4* stuff. Then the ones I already posted above are my units that are RTA stuff. I mean I have all paladin elements, all lightning emperor elements, Rica/Anavel, Wind Dragon, all macroon guards, Zen... A lot of basic more normal 5* that I dont really see in RTA
Wind Dragon Warrior
Whole nat5 *
I wish there was an easier way to send a full list, loll
Or use third party apps yeah
swgt?
You can do it from collections, takes like 6 screenshots ig
Simi help me extract my json please
Kekw
wow, swgt is kinda cool. I see some premade like siege teams and stuff trending which is fun.
Im looking to see how to setup my owned units
ah, it uploads from Json?
Json is a file type that you use another app to generate, kinda like a summary of your whole account
Yeah, doing that now to get updated list
Then u upload the file to swgt which then makes sense of the file to smth more understandable
Ah, I can only upload once per day. I tested using an old Json... Can I or should I delete and remake account?
How do I share my list now?
Or do you just have to add me as a friend to see?
@zealous axle Take a look?
Can just screenshot the box
Doesnt include Water Spectre Princess, Rica, Haegang, Wind Art Master... I think that is it as far as missing ones goes.
My JKK units are not listed there. I put them in my 1st pic I posted though
@zealous axle Thanks for helping and taking a look BTW. This site looks nice
I'm wondering if smth like Seara miles sekh can work as core. It looks kinda turn 1 but fairly easy to pivot to turn 2 with that opening draft
@toxic meteor thoughts?
I liked Sekh since she has a high base speed
@zealous axle Who would be next or other options after Seara, Miles, and Sekh? Haegang helps with 2nd turn, right or if they just have a high debuff team? With the 3 you listed there is a little control but no heavy damage or heavy control...
Thanks for the help everyone, I am getting off but if you have more options and comps I should focus on that would be greatly appreciated.
From there it really depends on the enemy draft. If you see heavy cc comps with strips, going into juno haegang can work. (Caveat is juno needs decent runes and really good artifacts). If there is heavy aoes strips and dmg without as much hard cc like stuns and freeze, wind monkey is great.
If you feel like you can compete turn 1 somehow, vanessa/ water twink into sonia could work. But your sonia runes kinda doodooo soo thats rough.
If they are doing bruisers with some passives, whip out teaarion. No immunity and snipe and strips, bring in a slow, 100% resist rica. Could throw in a velajuel as a generic bruiser perhaps too. Ashoue honestly is great but as red said, need good runes and arti to function.
Having your three dragon knight as pocket pick would not be bad, but leo might fk your miles so unless theyre doing smth like sonia ciri etc kinda of comp, would be rough to bring with your miles.
Give me a couple mins to read it all
Ok so I still didnt read it all, but looking at your box, even for t2 something you need runed decently at all times is juno
veromos is very handy aswell
I feel like you might be a bit limited vs twins meta t2 wise, you lack a lot of stuff
What are the best type of artifacts that you recommend or what do I look for with good artifacts?
@toxic meteor How would you rune Juno?
Desp rev, nem if no revenge as a second best option. Spd cr hp. Tons of additional dmg artifact
Despair anything really, ideally revenge
with as much efficiency as possible while mantaining good speed and decent cr
Mine is kinda mid for where I am but just an idea
with artifacts focused on addl by speed, hp and atk mostly
needs more stats than that
and definitely not those artifacts
Artis are a total no go
also you can use vamp juno if your despair isnt good aswell
Runes you can argue will work for that rank
Artifacts for additional damage prop to speed?
^
U want those three primarily
Juno is on Despair now
It's not just either or
Wasnt there old artifacts which could have increased speed based on missing hp? or something like that?
yes
Not for Juno though
Just go additional dmg
I dont have any of those, I left game for a while and came back when they were already removed
read artifact guide on resources
Would speed up effect be good for Juno since she self buffs? I havent used Juno much...
See how I stack additionals only? Yeah
Idk why u ignoring what we said lol
It's a bonus if u have to choose between two artifacts of similar additionals but one with and one without
But your focus is only in additional dmg
Ok, so bonus damage based on Speed / HP / Def are the best
Mate
Additionals prop to Spd hp atk
ok
Def if you don't have enuf atk versions since your Juno doesn't have much atk, but that's more of a Juno rune issue
Yeah, I dont farm many artifacts
Arti makes or break a lot of units when u are doing rta
I could drop the based on DEF and HP and greatly increased based on speed if you think that is better
It's basically the difference between your Juno doing 1.5k dmg total on S1 Vs 6k dmg total on s1
Unless it's a 130+% additional by spd on one artifact probably not
I mean, the artifact and runes looks fine for where you are at for now
Yes you do, so people typically use slot 4 cr
You only do less than 100cr because your runes can't hit it like mine and you settle xD
This would be worse then even though I get more HP? I lose speed and some crit?
That is not despair / revenge.... before I was just despair / broken
Ethna takes really really fast efficient runes, ideally your fastest set. She also wants almost every non res/cd stat
@rain raven non cd stat?
You don't need crit damage on ethna
Oh, mine is on CR right now
@rain raven do you use Juno? What do you think of mine and is mine worse losing speed for 4k more HP?
You need more of everything. Hp is ok if you can keep that and get more spd/atk/def
That change above is me going from Despair/Broken to Despair / Revenge...
I would keep the old one
Ok so the +4k hp isnt worth losing 14 speed abd 29% CR and gaining revenge
@zealous axle This one any better? or the almost 6k HP losing 13 speed and 29 CR is not worth it?
Primary thing is the cr
85 is the lowest I would be willing to drop the cr
im a bit late but neither is good, too slow, low stat efficiency aswell
you may need to farm a bunch more to be able to rune things at least to an acceptable degree and perform in rta
@toxic meteor I am not a very high rank. Currently sitting between 1250-1350. My goal is just to stay above 1300. You think my rune quality is too low for that rank?
For you to comfortably stay 1300+ yes u need to improve ur rune quality.
I was around c1-c3 last season with c2 season end finish nd I must say I have better runes than you are
Nd my box is more limited than yours
I think your rune quality is fine
just figure out how to rune things and play cores
scrolled up a bit, looked through some monsters
the runes looked okay, just wrong builds (like cd miles)
@distant ruin Id say seara miles sekh is fine for you
its better with lds but looks like the best core you have
make sure to rune oke, wind monkey, masha (maybe ashour?) dominic leo vero tetra juno vela helena (leo counter)
would also like josephine runed and uh
oh I missed water twins
give that a good set
Great minds think alike
Except when it comes to my acc then I know shit
runes are definitely not fine
