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rapid kernel
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Cant beat this stage, its zaiross 2x akroma,
vero (l) fran loren spectra mav, all have 120k+ ehp, 180+ speed with correct turn order i get to boss stage and the akroma just two hit my supports even though theyre at 30k health and seem to take absolutely no damage?

unsure what to do here.

swift arrow
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show stats on veromos, he might be lacking def. your fran also needs some atk to help with healing

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you want to eventually rune vero that he's going to have 1500 def total in prep for raids 5 later on, so the more def he can get the better

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noramlly you would use spectra to nuke the boss with his s2 because it deals hp% based damage

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so it shouldn't be that slow

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you can consider shannon instead of loren to provide def buff

rapid kernel
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im at that inbetween stage atm where my mons are kinda sacrificing damage to meet the recommended stats because i cant get any grindstones or gems yet i cant beat the rifts

swift arrow
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you should prioritize 100% cr and mentioned ehp whenever possible. damage should be last

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veromos is not a damage dealer so it's fine to make him much tankier while being on cdmg/100% cr build

rapid kernel
swift arrow
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uh

rapid kernel
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like honestly im having trouble even getting 100% crit damage while maintaining the speed and ehp suggested

swift arrow
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yeah quick glance at veromos he is runed completely wrong

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veromos does not need any atk

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he only needs cd% and 100% cr

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his s2 scales off max hp% on monsters that get stronger with more cdmg and cr%

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not attack

rapid kernel
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oh?

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ill change him around

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is spectra the same by any chance?

swift arrow
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yes

rapid kernel
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i had no idea

swift arrow
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both are in sense of bruisers that they just need spd, ehp, 100% cr

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attack should go to something like kro, raoq, etc.

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toa monsters' hp can get absurdly high so you will just cheese the waves by using veromos and spectra s2 skills that both scale off max hp

rapid kernel
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man i need access to rage runes really badly

swift arrow
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you don't

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you can finish pve with veromos on broken runes

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it doesn't really matter that much

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if anything, you should be using blade and energy runes to help you meet hp and cr reqs, then you can devote more subs on def/speed/whatever to help you meet 200 combat speed, 1500 def, etc.

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the 1500 def part is not required but it's really helpful to have veromos be much tankier

rapid kernel
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atm im struggling to hit 100% crit most of the time but ill start looking for different runes that dont include attack thanks for the info

swift arrow
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no worries

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don't forget to check ?toa to make sure your other monsters are meeting needed stats and 45% acc

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and your fran could still use more attack to help with healing, since her s2/s3 scales off attack

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shannon def buff helps your veromos to tank akroma since dark vs light

swift arrow
rapid kernel
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getting the combo is hard atm

swift arrow
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with just 1 blade set, you now only need 12% cr each

rapid kernel
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the crit the speed the cd all at the same time

swift arrow
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yeah

rapid kernel
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all my runes are shit like +5 cr

swift arrow
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might just be an issue on how you keep and roll runes sometimes, you don't want to have particularly high expectations

rapid kernel
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maybe yeah, at least i know tank runes with crit damage etc are good for someone now

swift arrow
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yup

rapid kernel
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how should loren be built, literrally just speed accuracy and then tanky ?

brazen fern
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yes

swift arrow
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you build her for ?sfah so can check the stats from there

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should work the same. she's normally the fastest

rapid kernel
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for mons like kro etc, after 100% cr which is more beneficial to stack attack or crit damage? or a somewhat mixture of both

swift arrow
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1:1 for kro

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so 1% atk (based on kro's base stat) = 1% cd basically

rapid kernel
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alright perfect, im basically just gonna have to start again runewise aha

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thanks for the info

swift arrow
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for units that benefit from something like hp based damage such as whomie, CD matters more