#GBAH Using WHomie

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feral spoke
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Just finished getting the upgrade to WHomie and have the team all built. It is wiping fairly consistently on the boss whereas the previous one was clearing w/o any problems whatsoever. My WHomie and all units meet the stats mentioned, just unlucky or is the ?gbah outdated as far as the WHomie upgrade before ?kylegbah or ?teshgbah

vital aspen
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every monster upgrade requires an increase in rune quality too, as you're dropping support to add damage

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compare your stats to #1166120830921621504 or show your team stats

feral spoke
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Will get SS of team stats

vital aspen
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?statshare

muted gladeBOT
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When sharing monster stats, take a screenshot from the monster storage building rather than the monster menu. This lets you show stats, rune sets, and skillups all in 1 image.
https://imgur.com/bmhiJGs

feral spoke
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I double checked everything in terms of requirements and it basically came down to:

  • 2% CR missing on Spectra
  • 1% CR missing on Galleon
  • Skill-ups missing on Galleon
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I can't imagine the net 3% CR would be the cause of consistent wiping but I've also been watching the runs and Def break is being applied fairly consistently

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From what I've noticed from watching runs at least, the golems in non-boss waves freezing my team is slowing it down substantially and causing enough dmg that Giant can kill them

vital aspen
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lmao you deviled the 1 unit that needs devils the least

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you have 3 main issues

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  1. lack of skillups, most important ones here are vero and galleon
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  1. everything is too slow (well i guess galleon is fine, kro maybe is fine too)
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  1. vero and especially kro need to be way tankier
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compare your stats to those in #1166120830921621504 for examples

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the missing cr is whatever. this is not a team needs to hit everything 100% of the time every single run

feral spoke
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In terms of speed, everything is runed according to the stats listed in ?gbah

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Most are over the required

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Unless I'm misunderstanding

vital aspen
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you're misunderstanding something

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?gbah

muted gladeBOT
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Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)

For beginners see ?justdoit2 .

  • Team Upgrade Order and Turn order
  1. Darion > Shannon > Belladeon > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  2. Shannon/Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  3. Shannon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro/Wind Homie
  4. Galleon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro/Wind Homie
  5. See ?teshgbah or ?kylegbah for spd team

Upgrade Info For Above Teams:

  • Team 1 Upgrade: Vero and 2aKro

  • Vero: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 180 cmb spd, 120k+ EHP

  • 2aKro: ATT/CD/ATT, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd (can be lower early on), 100k+ ehp (can use a slot 2 or 6 HP% early on)

  • Team 2 Upgrade: Replace Darion for 2aSpectra

  • 2aSpectra: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 120k+ EHP

  • Team 3 Upgrade: Replace Belladeon with Wind Homie

  • Wind Homie: ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 35% acc, 169 combat spd, 80k+ EHP

  • Skill path see ?whomie

  • Team 4 Upgrade: Replace Shannon with Galleon

  • Galleon: Spd/(CR/CD)/HP, 100% CR, 35% acc, 120k EHP

  • Wants skill 1 and 3 maxed for best Defense Break Chance before adding

  • Team 5 Upgrade: You move to the speed teams mentioned near the top of command.

  • What is EHP? See command: ?ehp

  • EHP values are a rough estimate, being above is always better

  • The minimum requirements must be met first before adding more DMG

  • Upgrading to the next team depends on current step of #guides

  • Artifacts depend on what one needs, Att for more dmg or HP/DEF for more EHP

vital aspen
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Wind Homie: ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 35% acc, 169 combat spd, 80k+ EHP

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your whomie has a combat spd of 126

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your kro has a combat spd of 162, so he's too slow as well

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there's no specific mentioning of spd for spectra in the ?gbah command, but if you look at ?toa command for runing spectra, you'll realize that need needs to be faster as well

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and while your vero does meet the requirement for team 1 of 180

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you're now working on team 4 and really everything should just be constantly upgraded

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spd hp tankiness

feral spoke
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So you're recommending I go back to Shannon over Galleon for now?

vital aspen
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well if you're failing, yes. until you can rune them better