#Progression: where to go next?

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dim flax
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Hey, i came back to this game and am a little lost, my goal was always to be able to do GB10 and ToA normal F100. I completed F100 yesterday but now I have no clue were to head next? Do I improve my GB10 team? am i supposed to get a GB12 team? do i work on DB10 now? help would be appreciated! also listed my mons and teams here in case people want to know.
My GB10 team is: Veromos, Sigmarus, Belladeon, Shannon, bernard
ToA team is: Sigmarus, Veromos, Verdehile, Loren, Fran

novel ore
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?beginner

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Go to #bot-commands and type the commands shown. Read and follow them.
?qstart?farmer?justdoit?justdoit2

Order PVE should be done: ?progression

Extra QOL commands ?summonerskills , ?sd , ?crystals , ?sstones , ?glory , ?fusion , ?nat5

What monsters to keep? see ?monsterrule

Want more info? see #1048681073502068917

Use ?runestats if reading spd/hp/hp confuses you.

dim flax
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?progression

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  • Scenarios > Inugami 2a > TOAN 100 > GBAH > TOAH 100 > SF10 > SSS Rank Rift Beasts > SR5 > PC10 > Lumel B5 > SRBAH (optional) > NBAH > DBAH

  • not listed are SFAH and PCAH at the current time

  • If you are just starting the game see ?beginner

  • READ THIS, ?progressionexplained gives a more in-depth explanation of the above progression

  • (Text in ?thisformat are commands, type these in #bot-commands to get the guides!)

novel ore
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since your a returning player, u still start at the beginning, but you get to progress through certain steps faster than a beginner

dim flax
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inugami 2a? does this mean get every inugami to 2a? im one off the dark one rn i think

novel ore
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to 2a kro

dim flax
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yes!

novel ore
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if your unsure of what the specific rune sets mentioned in ?justdoit, they are posted in #1049393485372993567

dim flax
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so now GbAH hmmmm, i will head to youtube to find some vids on it 🙂

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?justdoit2

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First GBAH (Giants Abyssal Hard) Team

  • Monster Info

  • Veromos (Dark Ifrit) - Will be grabbing the 3 Natural 4star monsters (Nat 4) for the Dark Ifrit fusion from Event 2 of the Summoners Welcome Event. The last monster (Dark Yeti) can be gotten from a Secret Dungeon (SD). Once Veromos is fused, 6 star and will also be the first monster you use your Devilmon on to skill up his skills.

  • Shannon (Wind Pixie) - Gotten Free from quests and DO NOT evolve past 5 star. Skill up with other pixies. DO Not 2nd awaken.

  • Belladeon (Light Inugami) - Gotten from a SD and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other inugami's. Do Not 2nd awaken.

  • Darion (Light Vagabond) - Gotten from a SD and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other vagabonds. Do Not 2nd awaken.

  • 2A Kro (Dark Inugami) - Gotten free from quests and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other inugami's and Needs to be 2nd awakened.

  • Runes and Artifacts from Summoners Welcome Event and PC2/SF2 (Floor 2 of these Dungeons)

  • Vero - Equip the Reward set for clearing Giants Floor 10 (GB10), +15 this set no matter how it rolls and Equip 2 HP artifacts.

  • Shannon - Equip the Despair/Focus set. Replace slot 4 att% rune with any unused hp% rune instead

  • Belladeon - Equip the Vio/Will set that is on Fran. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • Darion - Equip the Swift/Energy set that is on Loren. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • 2aKro - Equip the Fatal/Blade set that is on Lapis. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • Other Info

  • See ?bossfocus to set the focus, MidBoss/Boss

  • This team clears in 3:00 - 3:30 and 99% consistent

  • To speed up, see ?gbah command

dim flax
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oh wow

novel ore
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yt is a horrible resource to look for things

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for summoners war

dim flax
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so why is Mellia not used for example? I see her being used the most in the stats. is she too hard to rune?

novel ore
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in gbah?

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because she isnt needed

dim flax
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or is that only gb10?

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okey!

novel ore
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gb10 farming isnt a thing anymore

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as yr able to go straight to gbah

dim flax
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then ill see if I have a darion laying around, and head to start working on a gbah team

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merci beaucoup!

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❤️

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?progressionexplained

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See (X), are currently commands not yet made

  • Scenarios: clear all of scenario on normal difficulty asap with friend/mentor reps. See ?farmer
  • Inugami 2a: First 2nd awaken monster will be Kro. See ?justdoit
  • ToaN100: First toa team you'll run. See ?justdoit
  • GBAH: After clearing ToA, follow ?justdoit2 for your first GBAH team. Further optimization see ?gbah
  • ToaH100: First time you really need to invest into toa, see ?toa
  • SF10: Allow for better +/- dmg artifacts. see ?sf10
  • SSS Rift Beasts: Allow for you to craft reaps (reappraisal stones), the crafting of wind homie for gbah, and gathering enchanted gems (gems). See ?rift-(x) , where x is the element. SSS of 90% is acceptable before farming.
  • SR5: Allows you to solo the raid boss (r5), this allows for grindstones (grinds). See (X) or ?sr5
  • PC10: Allows for farming better type based artifacts. See ?pc10
  • Lumel B5: First dhole rune farming dungeon. see ?dholeinfo
  • SRBAH: Is an optional dungeon, mainly for fight runes. See ?srbah
  • NBAH: Allows for farming of Rage/Destroy/Will runes. see ?nbah
  • DBAH: Allows for farming of Vio/Rev runes. Yes this step could be done early but is not needed till one is about read for PVP content. ?dbah
  • **SFAH and PCAH:**not out
dim flax
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sorry to bother again, but where would you go to get like, fodder units to evolve those aformentioned units to 6*

novel ore
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unknown scrolls, 1/2star monsters from the magic shop and monsters from leveling your monsters in faimon hell stage 1

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oh and misc scrolls you get

dim flax
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thanks again!! ❤️

dim flax
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?justdoit

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First 2A inugami team:

  • Lapis: Leader, equip her with the free Vamp/Rev set from clearing MT Runar
  • Fran: Give her 2 HP artifacts. Equip her with the Vio/Will set from the Summoners Welcome Event.
  • Loren: Equip her with the free Swift/Energy set from Summoners Welcome Event. Give 2 HP artifacts when she's 6star.
  • can be done at 5star but will want her as she's important for later content.
  • Kro: Equip with the Fatal/Blade set that Lapis was on. 6star and equip with 2 HP artifacts.
  • can gain 2nd awaken xp before being completely skilled up, but needs to be max skilled to be 2nd awakened

Boss focus is straight boss: see ?bossfocus

**First TOA team: **

  • Lapis: 6star on the free Vamp/Rev set
  • Shannon: 5star on the free Despair/Focus set, replace the slot 4 att% with any free hp% rune.
  • Fran: 6star on the free Vio/Will set
  • Loren: 6star on the free Swift/Energy set
  • Kro: 6star on the free Fatal/Blade set
  • Vero: 6star on the Mellia fusion reward set. Will replace kro when he is completed and will be the leader.

Should be able to auto most of the floors 1-100.
Some floors will need to be manueled or repeated a couple times due to some RNG.
Some problem floors will include Vero, Arta, and floor 100 boss.
Do as much as you can untill you hit a brick wall, complete toan 100 or ?justdoit2 is ready.

dim flax
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?justdoit2

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First GBAH (Giants Abyssal Hard) Team

  • Monster Info

  • Veromos (Dark Ifrit) - Will be grabbing the 3 Natural 4star monsters (Nat 4) for the Dark Ifrit fusion from Event 2 of the Summoners Welcome Event. The last monster (Dark Yeti) can be gotten from a Secret Dungeon (SD). Once Veromos is fused, 6 star and will also be the first monster you use your Devilmon on to skill up his skills.

  • Shannon (Wind Pixie) - Gotten Free from quests and DO NOT evolve past 5 star. Skill up with other pixies. DO Not 2nd awaken.

  • Belladeon (Light Inugami) - Gotten from a SD and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other inugami's. Do Not 2nd awaken.

  • Darion (Light Vagabond) - Gotten from a SD and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other vagabonds. Do Not 2nd awaken.

  • 2A Kro (Dark Inugami) - Gotten free from quests and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other inugami's and Needs to be 2nd awakened.

  • Runes and Artifacts from Summoners Welcome Event and PC2/SF2 (Floor 2 of these Dungeons)

  • Vero - Equip the Reward set for clearing Giants Floor 10 (GB10), +15 this set no matter how it rolls and Equip 2 HP artifacts.

  • Shannon - Equip the Despair/Focus set. Replace slot 4 att% rune with any unused hp% rune instead

  • Belladeon - Equip the Vio/Will set that is on Fran. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • Darion - Equip the Swift/Energy set that is on Loren. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • 2aKro - Equip the Fatal/Blade set that is on Lapis. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • Other Info

  • See ?bossfocus to set the focus, MidBoss/Boss

  • This team clears in 3:00 - 3:30 and 99% consistent

  • To speed up, see ?gbah command

dim flax
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?bossfocus

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dim flax
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?gba

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?gbah

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Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)

For beginners see ?justdoit2 .

  • Team Upgrade Order and Turn order
  1. Darion > Shannon > Belladeon > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  2. Shannon/Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  3. Shannon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro/Wind Homie
  4. Galleon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro/Wind Homie
  5. See ?teshgbah or ?kylegbah for spd team

Upgrade Info For Above Teams:

  • Team 1 Upgrade: Vero and 2aKro

  • Vero: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 180 cmb spd, 120k+ EHP

  • 2aKro: ATT/CD/ATT, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd (can be lower early on), 100k+ ehp (can use a slot 2 or 6 HP% early on)

  • Team 2 Upgrade: Replace Darion for 2aSpectra

  • 2aSpectra: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 120k+ EHP

  • Team 3 Upgrade: Replace Belladeon with Wind Homie

  • Wind Homie: ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 35% acc, 169 combat spd, 80k+ EHP

  • Skill path see ?whomie

  • Team 4 Upgrade: Replace Shannon with Galleon

  • Galleon: Spd/(CR/CD)/HP, 100% CR, 35% acc, 120k EHP

  • Wants skill 1 and 3 maxed for best Defense Break Chance before adding

  • Team 5 Upgrade: Not Available ATM

  • EHP values are a rough estimate, being above is always better

  • The minimum requirements must be met first before adding more DMG

  • Upgrading to the next team depends on current ?progression

  • Artifacts depend on what one needs, Att for more dmg or HP/DEF for more EHP

dim flax
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?justdoit3

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?justdoit2

quiet stirrupBOT
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First GBAH (Giants Abyssal Hard) Team

  • Monster Info

  • Veromos (Dark Ifrit) - Will be grabbing the 3 Natural 4star monsters (Nat 4) for the Dark Ifrit fusion from Event 2 of the Summoners Welcome Event. The last monster (Dark Yeti) can be gotten from a Secret Dungeon (SD). Once Veromos is fused, 6 star and will also be the first monster you use your Devilmon on to skill up his skills.

  • Shannon (Wind Pixie) - Gotten Free from quests and DO NOT evolve past 5 star. Skill up with other pixies. DO Not 2nd awaken.

  • Belladeon (Light Inugami) - Gotten from a SD and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other inugami's. Do Not 2nd awaken.

  • Darion (Light Vagabond) - Gotten from a SD and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other vagabonds. Do Not 2nd awaken.

  • 2A Kro (Dark Inugami) - Gotten free from quests and evolve to 6 star. Skill up with other inugami's and Needs to be 2nd awakened.

  • Runes and Artifacts from Summoners Welcome Event and PC2/SF2 (Floor 2 of these Dungeons)

  • Vero - Equip the Reward set for clearing Giants Floor 10 (GB10), +15 this set no matter how it rolls and Equip 2 HP artifacts.

  • Shannon - Equip the Despair/Focus set. Replace slot 4 att% rune with any unused hp% rune instead

  • Belladeon - Equip the Vio/Will set that is on Fran. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • Darion - Equip the Swift/Energy set that is on Loren. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • 2aKro - Equip the Fatal/Blade set that is on Lapis. Use 2 HP artifacts

  • Other Info

  • See ?bossfocus to set the focus, MidBoss/Boss

  • This team clears in 3:00 - 3:30 and 99% consistent

  • To speed up, see ?gbah command

dim flax
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btw does Gbah drop like, even higher grade runes than gb10? or just higher frequency of 6 star runes

novel ore
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always 6* runes, better purple rate

dim flax
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and for the artifacts, i think this is new?

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like, can i just use 'shity' ones with the correct main stat? is that good enough

novel ore
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yes, for now thats all you care about is the main stat

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for artifacts

dim flax
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Equip the Reward set for clearing Giants Floor 10 (GB10), +15 this set no matter how it rolls and Equip 2 HP artifacts.

what set is this?

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veromos ^

dim flax
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?bossfocus

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?gbah

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Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)

For beginners see ?justdoit2 .

  • Team Upgrade Order and Turn order
  1. Darion > Shannon > Belladeon > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  2. Shannon/Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  3. Shannon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro/Wind Homie
  4. Galleon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro/Wind Homie
  5. See ?teshgbah or ?kylegbah for spd team

Upgrade Info For Above Teams:

  • Team 1 Upgrade: Vero and 2aKro

  • Vero: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 180 cmb spd, 120k+ EHP

  • 2aKro: ATT/CD/ATT, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd (can be lower early on), 100k+ ehp (can use a slot 2 or 6 HP% early on)

  • Team 2 Upgrade: Replace Darion for 2aSpectra

  • 2aSpectra: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 120k+ EHP

  • Team 3 Upgrade: Replace Belladeon with Wind Homie

  • Wind Homie: ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 35% acc, 169 combat spd, 80k+ EHP

  • Skill path see ?whomie

  • Team 4 Upgrade: Replace Shannon with Galleon

  • Galleon: Spd/(CR/CD)/HP, 100% CR, 35% acc, 120k EHP

  • Wants skill 1 and 3 maxed for best Defense Break Chance before adding

  • Team 5 Upgrade: Not Available ATM

  • EHP values are a rough estimate, being above is always better

  • The minimum requirements must be met first before adding more DMG

  • Upgrading to the next team depends on current ?progression

  • Artifacts depend on what one needs, Att for more dmg or HP/DEF for more EHP

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?toa

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# Trial of Ascension (Normal & Hard) GUIDE

Additional commands
Floor 100 bosses (?toafemale and ?toamale )
?arta ?akroma

  • First ToaN (normal) team will consists of the ?justdoit team which is Veromos, Fran, Shannon, Loren and Lapis

  • ToaH (hard) will be a combination of Vero, Mav (wind penguin), Fran and 2 of these units below depending on floor

  • 2aSpectra, Melia, Loren

  • [Mav] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, Def Artifacts (when 6☆), and 180 SPD, 45% Acc

  • See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements

  • [Fran] - Violent-Swift/Any SPD/DEF/HP, Def Artifacts, 200 SPD

  • See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements

  • [Mellia] - Despair-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, can stay 5☆, faster than mav

  • [2aSpectra] - Swift/Any, SPD/CD/HP, 100% CR, HP/DEF artifacts, 45% acc, 120K+ EHP

  • [Loren] - Swift/Any, SPD/DEF/HP, HP/Def Artifacts, 45% acc, 200 SPD

  • [Veromos and Shannon] are runed as they are for ?gbah

Additional Info

  • If you are not sure of what a monster does, don't be afraid to read the monsters skills or ask for clarification on what they do. This is the time you learn what monsters do.
  • Will start to be able to auto more floors as your monster runes improve otherwise manual the floors
  • Mellia is the only monster who doesnt need skill ups, the others see ?qstart and ?devilmon .
  • Use in Anti-Crit stages (Jultan/Kumae and Art)
  • Support mon ideally have no more than 20% CR for anti-crit stages.
  • 45% Accuracy is recommended for every support unit that have debuffs.
  • Turn order will vary but in a nutshell the slowest mon on the team should be mav (being 180 spd) and everyone else moving before he does.
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188720 ehp. Deffbroken: 78960 ehp.

dim flax
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?qstart

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Useful Starting information:

  • Commands are meant to be used in ⁠#bot-commands

  • Clear scenario fully on normal for the rewards

  • To level up your team type the ?farmer command in #bot-commands.

  • Friends and Mentors

  • Ask in the chat for people with strong reps (Preferably Lapis, Beth, Alicia, Verad).

  • Use these to help clear the Novice Summoners Questline to get Lapis (water magic knight) ASAP and Clear Mt. Runar as stated in ?farmer

  • Runes

  • Do NOT bother keeping any of the runes dropped from scenario.

  • Completing certain scenarios will give you the option to choose between a fatal/blade/energy set, choose Energy.

  • How to Get Beginner Monsters

  • Shannon (wind pixie): Unknown scrolls.

  • Fran (light fairy queen): Clear Kabir Ruins

  • Loren (light cowgirl): Secret Dungeon.

  • Belladeon (light inugami): Secret Dungeon

  • Darion (light vagabond): Secret Dungeon

  • Kumae (dark yeti): Secret Dungeon

  • Veromos (dark ifrit): Requires you to fuse them by using the Fusion Hexagram. (see ⁠#1048681073502068917 Beginner Resources )

Use this site to learn which monsters are which monsters:
https://swarfarm.com/bestiary

  • Skillups : family members of the same family can be used to increase a monsters skills
  • Can be gotten from Magic Shop, Secret dungeons (SD), Unknown Scrolls (US), and Mystical Scrolls.
  • Loren: SD - Dont buy cow girls from Guild Shop
  • Fran: U.S and Magic Shop - Fairies
  • Shannon: U.S - Pixie
  • Belladeon: Garen/Telain Forest, Faimon and SD
  • Darion: U.S
  • Veromos: 1st monster to Devilmon, fully