#What playstyle is my box good for?

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vague cove
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Hi, i've been grinding RTA for a little bit (even though i don't have extremely good runes) but i'm not sure what style of comp i should aim for with my box.
Atm, i'm more going for a speedy-ish comp since my swifts are a little better than my vios with Jamire, Praha, Ethna, Light Eivor, Clara, Psamathe, Masha but i feel like i'm lacking a good AOE unit like CP or Shizuka...

Do you guys think my box is more suited for another playstyle? Even if it's not very optimal, i'm just trying to have fun in RTA and why not hit C1/C2 at the end of the season. (I finished high F3 last season)

Thanks a lot!

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(i forgot to add Lionel in the non skill up list, but i don't think that changes much haha)

wraith rock
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Box is kinda odd u lack key units for both playstyles. I think u can make a t2-1.5 work?

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Especially since t1 gets way harder punished for lacking key unita

vague cove
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yeah i really feel like CP is a must, trying to replace him with clara but it's not the same haha

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so what core units should i focxus on u think?

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atm my best runed units are Jamire, Praha, Masha, Ethna, Light Eivor and Psamathe

valid field
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you can open with a Sagar and either pivot into turn 2, or pivot into control/single target dmg team when i see they go for bruiser team

vague cove
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okay thanks! i've been thinking a bit, and this is what i came for for now:

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Jamire > Praha > Sagar core (in this turn order)

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and then i either go full speed if they're too slow with ethna / light eivor / clara / psamathe / barbara

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or go t2-ish with masha / abellio / dominic etc

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i think it's a decent strategy with what i have don't u think?

valid field
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jamire praha sagar core just die to passive and fire units like Monkey or Masha tho

vague cove
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that's exactly the issue i've been having haha

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that's why i runed swift barbara

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but if they ban i'm fcked

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idk what core i could go appart from that tho

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i really appreciate your help btw!

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thanks

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i'm rly lacking fire / water bruisers

valid field
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let's point out the problem of the team first

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  1. jamire sagar praha = no burst
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you literally depend on artifact dmg on praha and some crit on jamire, which is pretty non-reliable against fire bruisers

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esp racuni

vague cove
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yeah you're right, i'm really having problems with very bruiser teams (fire monkey, racuni, riley etc)

valid field
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to fix it, spread out the elemental first 3 picks

vague cove
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my jamire hit's decently well but not my praha, i had to use s2 accuracy on her artifacts for a more reliabel strip

valid field
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you can go praha sagar into bruiser, but sagar not skilled up is painful

vague cove
valid field
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the point is, you dont use praha as a stripper

vague cove
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what other strip options do i have tho?

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for sagar

valid field
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is that everything you have rn?

vague cove
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as nat 5's yes

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well i forgot a few but they're non rta units

valid field
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that's rough

vague cove
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and no strips

valid field
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you lacking spd lead to do control team

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psamathe wont ever be used ngl

vague cove
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yeah i've only been playing for a year (tho non stop for a year and not f2p)

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dammit i just finished skill uping psamathe haha

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he kinda clutches as a last pick sometimes imo

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and he doesn't eat anybody elses runes anyways

valid field
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i suggest doing turn 1,5 or 2 instead of trying out control team

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with abellio racuni masha giou stuffs

vague cove
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i see. issue is i have way better swift runes, but i guess if my box doesn't work with swifts it is what it is

valid field
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u can go ethna against molong bolv picker btw

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those units dont need super good vio, just get stats over spd for them

vague cove
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ye i don't see much of those anyways since i'm heavy wind

valid field
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let them slow

vague cove
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okok

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but isn't masha too squishy?

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for t2

valid field
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just dont be like turn 69 slow

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use slot 6 HP%

vague cove
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i used to play t2 before but it always felt like i got one shot

vague cove
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i'll try that for sure

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and dominic as second bruiser i imagine?

valid field
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dominic is a good one against bruiser

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bolv doesnt need skill ups, u can also use him as a riley/heavy buffer counter

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maybe try out giou, she's nice, open with abellio, then follow up with giou racuni, at this point if the opponent pick moore they're gonna slam in CP tesa/Verd 100%, make sure last 2 picks u have stuffs to deal with that.

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it's hard coz you lacking a lot of key units

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but try out something and find the best comp for your box

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it's ok to lose a lots

vague cove
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so no speed contest at all?

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even if they go super t2 too?

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i guess i could still have light eivor on swift

valid field
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why do you contest if they go super turn 2, just pick fast bruiser or tanky control unit like sagar, and you also free to run snipe counter too

vague cove
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she's SPD/HP/ACC with her high base spd

vague cove
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thanks a whole lot for the help!

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i'll try all of this

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you're a lifesaver

valid field
vague cove
valid field
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into fire heavy, consider using masha nana, coz barbara is too squishy

vague cove
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so maybe she should be better on a fast vio?

valid field
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nah, just keep her on swift if your swift is better than vio

vague cove
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issue is what happens if they ban masha?

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i feel like i have nothing

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i guess i could build a suiki

valid field
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give me a hypothetical draft

vague cove
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mmh okay let's see

valid field
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then we will look for solution

vague cove
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i first pick abellio as you said

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can you do the opponent?

valid field
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hmmm it's better for me to be u

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and u be the opponent

vague cove
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oh ok

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then u fp abellio ig

valid field
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yep

vague cove
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i'll pick the team i have issues against. so i pick miles racuni

valid field
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ok, if i see miles rat, i will pick Sagar Masha

vague cove
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ok so i pick Fire monkey and camila

valid field
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i will go tesarion racuni nana

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oh wait

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u picked rat

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tesarion nana

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mb

vague cove
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does tesa need skill ups?

valid field
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nope

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it helps

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but not mandatory

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there're some units that function without skill ups

vague cove
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guess i'll build him tomorrow then haha, he does fit a fire bruiser

valid field
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so what's your last pick

vague cove
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how is he build? triple revenge? vio?

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mhhh

valid field
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vio rev

vague cove
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i'm guessing some sustain so riley

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and i would probably ban tesa or masha

valid field
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the draft looks like this now:

Abellio Sagar Masha Tesarion Nana (tesa/nana ban)

Miles Rat MHW Cam Riley (Riley ban)

vague cove
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cd if i can

vague cove
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super bruiser t2 is a nightmare for me

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especially fire monkey and tesa

valid field
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personal choice i would ban the last pick

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we can tank miles for a bit, and masha should eat MHW

vague cove
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probably what i would've banned

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knowing me

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tho i'd be hella scared of miles as u said ye

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but with sagar he might be controlable

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i'd imagine

valid field
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that team is indeed hella annoying if you fail to control

vague cove
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do i not build praha?

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i love that unit but she might not fit what i have

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she also uses probably my best vio set

valid field
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well we only talked about a single match

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doesnt mean we dont build praha

vague cove
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i see i see

valid field
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praha + sagar is pretty insane team

vague cove
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yeah the combo felt nice

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and with jamire too but as you said i'm weak to fire

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can we do another draft?

valid field
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jamire shouldnt be picked at all unless they magically picked 5 waters into you

vague cove
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thanks again for helping, you're being too nice

valid field
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or like some weirdos doing molong bolv aaliyah woosa

vague cove
valid field
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i didnt mean jamire is bad

vague cove
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got monte a week ago, if only monte was the opposite color

valid field
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just, you dont have units to pair with him

vague cove
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i would've been set haha

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with jamire tablo ethna praha and sonia

valid field
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if they go 3 waters jamire sagar can be a thing

vague cove
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how do i draft against super speed comps then with this "new core"?

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like CP / Oliver

valid field
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abe giou masha

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giou is super nice and masha deletes winds

vague cove
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seems good!

valid field
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make sure you have enough support healers for that comp

vague cove
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i'm starting to see where this is going

valid field
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just try out stuffs and find your own style

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rn just spam wings

vague cove
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ultimately i would prefer to play t1 when i have units, it feels nicer. but for now i'll just stick to what i have

valid field
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the more u play the better u become

vague cove
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hopefully i'll get C1/C2 at the end of the season with your tips

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really nice of you to help

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i appreciate it

valid field
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C1/2 is basically rune check with a bit of drafting involved

vague cove
valid field
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feels free to post any matches that you want to point out mistake or u feel clueless here

vague cove
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yeah i wasn't far from C1 but i kept on losing against bruiser comps that where like half as fast as me

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i felt like i was missing something ahha

valid field
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u missing units that it KEKW

vague cove
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thanks

vague cove
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and they never take a turn

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but without units like CP it feels impossible

valid field
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try out wind robo

vague cove
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they'll eventually proc out without reset 🥲

vague cove
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i'll try him again another time

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for now i'll focus on what you told me

valid field
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yea try that out first

vague cove
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😎 👍

valid field
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gl

vague cove
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thanks again! ❤️

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have a good one

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oh and one last thing...

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since he'll be my fp

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is this good enough for c1?

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(can't build him CD)

valid field
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a bit less crit rate, more stats in HP and DEF

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get some CRD in artifact would be fine

vague cove
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okay, perfect

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thanks

vague cove
vague cove
# valid field gl

peaked very easily! nearly no loss (i know it's early season so i'm sure i won't stay here but still happy with the early results)

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the team is working wonders honestly, thanks a lot

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i do still have some issues with Miles / Racuni tho, but it's a bit more manageable compared to before

valid field
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@wraith rock miss maloREEEEEEEE how do you deal with Miles/Rat as abellio giou picks

wraith rock
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Well miles dies to giou

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Or abellio

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Like actually no issue

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But rat is a problem if u dont have LD abuse

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I can see fire kass working as a non ld option?

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Masha abellio can kill rat but it can get quite annoying

valid field
wraith rock
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No

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Giou does good dmg

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On karma+defbreak target u hit like 6k on 0 dmg stats

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U go add's on right

valid field
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i go acc on right Sadge

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so i can get both acc cap and 100 res

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maybe it's time to drop RES

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coz im using her into control team which already has acc cap

wraith rock
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Yeah that my reasoning to drop res

vague cove
valid field
vague cove
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illl try that out for sure now that you said that

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isn't her damage based on her hp th

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tho,

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on her s1?

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my giou is like this on desp / revenge

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she might be way too squishy on cr tho 😬

vague cove
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quick update, hit my peak at c3! 😎

wraith rock
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op gz

vague cove
valid field
vague cove
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i'll keep her like that for now then, she's doing well as is

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your comp is working wonders btw

valid field
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yea i wont bother going crit

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nah nah that's mal's comp

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i dont have units to pull it

vague cove
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i've changed some minor stuff but i'm basically running what u told me

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i meant the comp u recommended ahha

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light eivor is kinda carrying me too

valid field
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yea light eivor with best swift can easily work as a budget sekh, without reset tho

vague cove
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exactly

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idk if "budget" is the right term tho 😂

valid field
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yea they're different, but the main purpose in first turn is the same, cut and mess up their combo lol

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i would take sekh over light eivor tho, s2 is too good

vague cove
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true but light eivor passive is busted

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perma strip

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my comp is perma cutting honestly it's cancer

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Gious + Abellio + Light Eivor

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and Diana

valid field
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cringe turn 2 player smadge

vague cove
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yeah 😂

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i got CP btw

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but no moore

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so not really useable i guess

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for t1

valid field
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everyone and their mother pulled CP after i picked Laika over him in a blessing

vague cove
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yeah i picked him from SWC scrolls

valid field
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bruh sacked the swc scroll

vague cove
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sold my csgo knife to whale on sw

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i had like 10+ swc scrolls 😂

valid field
vague cove
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but yeah got lucky

valid field
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which one

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u sold

vague cove
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though i shoudl've removed CP from the scrolls in hindsight since i have Sagar

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I sold my bayonet black laminate FT and my gloves

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sexy knife

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but i don't play CS anymore

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CS2 didn't really revive my love for the game

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and skin prices where going back down again so i thought it was a good time

valid field
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i thought u sold Blue Gem Karambits

vague cove
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haha

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i used to have a FN Butterfly Fade 100% fade

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it was worth like 200 euros back in the days

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i sold it for that amount

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i still have the steam transaction

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💀

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it's not like it's worth more than 2000 or anything atm LMAO

vague cove
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hi! who to skill up next?

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the T2 comp is doing great for me atm. still doing all my wings everyday and staying C3 with underwhelming rune quality

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i'm thinking Anavel maybe? since i'm missing some cleanse.. (only running Riley for cleanse as i don't have a good set for racuni) Or Molong since i have Bolverk and i use them both in siege content a lot. He's also a unit i find myself losing to a decent amount.

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current rta box. runed up a Suiki as i was lacking a water bruiser and runed some nieche counter picks so as slow despair Ethna (leo counter), Yeonhwa (i'm having issues against Tiana / Nephtys) and Triana (had issues against snipe comps)

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also drops Lucia which i skilled up instantly coz i find her lowkey OP in certain drafts

valid field
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Nana, Molong, Douglas, Sonia might be the best choice

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douglas function without skill up, same with bolv and nana

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but nana skill ups are good, same with molong, i would go with Molong > nana > sonia

vague cove
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i don't have the runes for sonia i feel like

valid field
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then molong, and nana imo

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into douglas

vague cove
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and i barely ever draft nana, i removed her from my RTA pool

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idk, she doesn't work for me

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i might be 1 head

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😂

valid field
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well nana fell off the cliff

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she's nice but not broken anymore

vague cove
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yeah but i think she doesn't fit my playstyle tho i could be wrong

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i generally lack damage in my comps so nana feels useless most of the time

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maybe i just haven't tried her enough tho

valid field
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no she fits KEKW

vague cove
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i didn't think of douglas

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molong i'd like to but i don't have any more vio sets for him

vague cove
valid field
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she provides def break aoe, atk break, revive, stun from desp

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and she's perfect for your kind of comp

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the sacking proccing despairing stalling

vague cove
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huh, how would you rune her? i had her on SPD/HP/HP

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is atk a good idea?

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crit rate?

valid field
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spd hp hp is fine, just get additional

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and acc cap btw

vague cove
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will try her again then thanks! she might help me against snipe comps too

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i'll think about it then, either her or molong

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molong just get's so much from skill ups

valid field
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i would say molong

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more valuable

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and u dont need to be on vio

vague cove
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perfect! i'll do that then nana then douglas (or douglas first if i rly can't make nana work)

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ye but i have no vamp sets haha

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honestly, my runes are so bad 😂

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idk how i can manage c3 for now (tho i'm surely not gonna end there)

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i'm getting outsped by miles (not the unit)

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lemme run up nana real quick, i'll see what i can cook

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desp / will?

valid field
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wait until you have a good set for rat

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giou rat just eat stuffs for breakfast

valid field
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coz ur not maxed

vague cove
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maxed?

valid field
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skilled up

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mb

vague cove
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oh ok

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ok i'll try desp revenge

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if i have enough revenge sets

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ty!

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accuracy cap is gonna be real though

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acc slot 6?

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ah but giou has the desp acc slot 6

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nah can't do for now, she'd be on Desp / shield SPD/CR/HP

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with shitty additionals

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💀

valid field
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but make sure she moving before your DDs like dom for example

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masha u can save up s2

wraith rock
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Just skimmed abit

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Nana is reallt great vs snipe comps

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But idk how often u meet those outside g1

vague cove
wraith rock
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Another example of free win with nana

vague cove
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once faced a guy with 5 snipe comps (sonia, han, fire kass, oberon and one more)

wraith rock
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HAHAHAH

vague cove
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i'm sure i could've cleaved him

wraith rock
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Couldv been me

vague cove
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but i don't have anything in my box to do it x)

wraith rock
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Nana helps alot vs those

vague cove
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haha maybe (i lost give me my points back)

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even though her build will be whack it's still worth to have her?

wraith rock
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My build is rlly bad aswell for my usual rune eff

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She just sits there, all she needs to do tbh

vague cove
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oh

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i guess i'll do a whack build then

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thanks!

wraith rock
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Despair nana is also funny

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Revenge also a decent off set

vague cove
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oh wait i didn't see it was vio haha

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i'll be going desp for sure

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no vio sets anymore

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is ur nana accuracy slot 6?

wraith rock
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Might be

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Yep

vague cove
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what's the best counter i have against oliver / miles / racuni in my box?

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i fp sagar

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riley racuni ban

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got destroyed but idk what i should pick against this

valid field
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if they take rat u take tesa

vague cove
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ok thanks!