water rift

[somber pasture]

I manage to get s on water rift but i cant seem to progress past it, ive used the water rift guide

Not all my mons are skilled up but is that whats really holding me back from an s+?

Im not sure how important skill ups are

[candid kestrel]

should be no reason to use verde when you have mav and hraes on the team

would use another dd there instead (fuco looks to be 6* already)

[somber pasture]

Oh, whys that? Sorry im not sure how synergies with mons go

But ill get to that

[somber pasture]

I used fuco but im still stuck around A+ /S

[candid kestrel]

we got yr fran and mav up to par a bit back yes?

[somber pasture]

I believe so

[candid kestrel]

can we get pictures of your dd's

[candid kestrel]

these all (except kro) are way too fast

which is making them lose out on dmg

[somber pasture]

Alr

[candid kestrel]

kro looks good, but seems like his slot 4 CD is still only at +12 or lower

which is taking him from a decent build to a meh build

hreas only needs 90k ehp, which he seems to be sitting way higher

lingling and fuco seem to suffer from the same problem, low att and CD, because of probably 2 factors slot 2 spd (which is unnecessary) and not +15ed 2/4/6

i guess we can look at this another way

you know your dd's will have a slot 2 and a slot 6 att% rune (hraes wont follow this) and a slot 4 CD rune

at +15 these runes will gives you 126% att and 80 CD

so lets say on avg they ahve 750 base att, that'll be +950 attack already

you will then still get another 300 flat att from yr slot 1 main stat and 2 attack artifacts at +15

so before even worrying about substats your monsters will look like so

+1250 attack
130 CD (50 base + CD slot 4 80%)

so ideally (this is my person pref and abstract thinking)
when running a damage dealer for pve, you should aim for in att and CD

+200% att
150+ CD (this is the low end for monsters who dont need more stats)

@somber pasture

[somber pasture]

Yeah but i need the right spd and cr tho

And those are my main problems

So if i use the slot 2 spd, it takes out the worry of spd problems in my mons

[candid kestrel]

you only need roughly +40 spd and that doesnt take into account the spd you get from your spd tower

and thats over 6 runes

[somber pasture]

Should spd tower be my main goal? Im currently working on sanctum of energy, and i think i have tower of speed at lvl 10

[candid kestrel]

7 spd per rune avg, even more closer to 6 if you factor in 1 or 2 spd tower lvls or if their base is over 100

[somber pasture]

I still need 85 cr, i dont have that rng

[candid kestrel]

yes you should be able to focus on yr spd tower at this point in time

85 CR is

15 from base = leave you 60 total

over 6 runes = 10% per rune

[somber pasture]

So are you saying these mons are good now just i need to +15 them?

[candid kestrel]

on my end it very hard to look at not +15'ed 2/4/6 and being able to tell you if they are good or not

off the bat though, hraes is now too slow (he's suppose to be the fastest dd)

and he seems to be very def heavy

[somber pasture]

I thought dd's were supposed to be 140 tho

[candid kestrel]

hreas 146
lingling 150
fuco 139

which one of these is fastest?

[somber pasture]

alright well ill go see if i can try to fix my runes again

Is hrae at 156 spd bad?

[candid kestrel]

no

[somber pasture]

Alr well how about now?

If theres a problem with atk/cd I can try to upgrade, tho i dont have much mana

[candid kestrel]

these are with their 2/4/6 at +12 atm?

[somber pasture]

For the most part, only two out of the 9 have 15

[candid kestrel]

which 2

[somber pasture]

Hraes 6 rune and fucos 2 rune

[candid kestrel]

a lingling is on 2 hp artifacts?

[somber pasture]

Yeah, should I change them?

[candid kestrel]

should be att, and fuco is going to need a pair of att as well

[somber pasture]

Hraes on def, atk too?

[candid kestrel]

his are both def atm?

[somber pasture]

Yeah