Awards on Discord...

[fading dune]

Considering that the forum is a dead platform, why don't you put the awards here and visible in the player profiles?
I guarantee that it can be done this way;

1) Create all the necessary roles and match with the reference pics/awards
2) Create a dedicate channel
3) The designated people will assign that role, which is actually an award, to the player and the player will have the recognition received from the HC on their profile.

Furthermore, the player will never lose their awards unless they leave the server. A simple and effective idea that I used in the past on my server, and it's truly beautiful.

[fading dune]

@golden ore what do you think?

[golden ore]

God damn you marvelous basterd, love this idea

[fading dune]

By the way it is really very easy to implement 😆

[golden ore]

I just need to get some ends meeting, Discord implementation would be really easy indeed

But still, need to take care of some more points, so that I dont miss anything

[fading dune]

Take your time and if you need anything I'm here. I suggest you create categories like a pyramid. The first will show the player whether they are members of the axis, ally, or side switcher. The second if it is possibly in the HC. The third is his team. The fourth is the role he prefers between inf, tank, plane, etc. The fifth, sixth, and seventh will be categories dedicated to the army, aviation, and navy, and for their respective medals, if earned on the battlefield. I did this a while ago, among other things it is possible to order them correctly line by line and where the result is really pleasant to see 🙂

[golden ore]

I was thinking more of a "tiered" kind of system, where we would mimic the existing medal system, for example... Iron cross 1st class... then Iron Cross 2nd class...

But I am sure we will work something really neat

For both sides, obviously

[fading dune]

Excellent like this too. I always think that breaking it down by category makes everything look better. However, I wouldn't use too many rewards like there used to be, of which 80% were actually unused. So I'd keep some for HCs, some generic ones, and some specific to each branch.

[golden ore]

My overall idea would be to create a community centric award system, where the community itself would indicate people to receive the awards, and I would deal with the technical stuff

[fading dune]

Unfortunately my old HD broke and I don't think I have a picture of how I did it, otherwise I would have shown it to you

[golden ore]

So I wouldn't be handing out any medals, rather, the community would award them to players as they distinguished themselves

[golden ore]

@viscid peak

Said he could also post the awards, we can get something going here, @fading dune

[viscid peak]

Would love to help out. No idea how to program and couldn’t find where the stats website pulled from the game.

Obviously we need the tank and plane ace award. However, would love to find a way to reward infantry.

Also, there used to be an after action report for best submitted after action report of the week. I feel like that could be interesting

[golden ore]

Now here is my idea:

HC Centric medal system -> Players would point out to the HC other players that distinguished themselves, they would then forward this to me, I would create a poll for voting for everyone to comment on his award, and being a positive reception then I would grant him the discord role...

This is just for a prototype but what do you guys think?

[golden ore]

AAR would be nice too, lemme just note this down

These things have been floating around for quite some time, to be honest

but never really halted everything to get them grounded

Now that I have some more free time we can get these things rolling out of the oven

[viscid peak]

That is solid. Two points: we need a few awards that are just automatic. Plane and tank ace. Maybe something based on caps or infantry kill in a sortie.

Would need to alert HC whenever it happens most likely. The one who did it or if we see it called out in game chat.

Second, might be best to do this on Google form/publicized contact person

[golden ore]

Yeah, I'd be the contact person in this matter, thats for sure, now for the Plane and tank ace... I think I can work something out with my dataset

[viscid peak]

Awesome. Those two should be the easiest.

I saw biggles and augetout do some great things last night and wanted to find a way for them to be recognized

[blissful knot]

There are negatives:

1. There could only be a few awards

2. The system relies on Players who want to go out of their way to nominate someone.

3. No one not on Discord would ever receive any recognition.

4. No awards could be awarded for statistics/ achievements.

5. It makes the entire Awards process a popularity
   contest.

6. A Tiered System is a BAD idea. Yes the Germans had a system with levels of Iron Cross, but the Allies had no such corresponding system.

This is just what hit me off the top of my head.

I'm not against the ability to put the awards onto a person's Discord, but HCs should still handle them and they should never rely on a voting system. There are numerous Players who don't even approve of having awards at all.

[fading dune]

HCs award prizes and only those with the highest rank, no voting system.
Furthermore, you can put as many awards as we want, because since they are actually "roles", these have no number limits.
About statistics etc, who cares at some point. The current awards system hasn't worked for years because the forum and sites have been dying compared to Discord and the like for years now. Yeah I liked it more like it used to but unfortunately it's not like it used to be.

[blissful knot]

Discord has a limit of 250 roles per server. Period.

As the primary Awards guy for Allies I take a LOT of offense at your accusation of awarding only High Ranking Players. That would be an outright LIE. Prove such an accusation or retract it.

A Voting system would be counter to a military style awards system, allowing people to prevent someone they don't like from receiving something well earned. That makes it a POPULARITY system... such systems are ridiculous and unfair.
Heck some people hate the idea of anyone getting awards and could work to simply prevent anyone from getting approval. If a Player spends a day running a truck around resupplying our tanks and someone nominates them for an award... they should not then have to hope that they are well liked enough to get credit for what they did. That's BS and you know it. It's also a great way to tell people that they should not bother going the extra mile or even cause them to quit entirely.

The Current Awards system is manual. That has it's good parts and bad parts.

You cannot have an automatic system for anything that is not stat based. So you need people. You need Awards that are not stat based.

In order for a system that has to have awards manually entered you need either a minimum of awards or a person willing to put in days of effort at the end of a campaign... When I can get it done right I give out over 200 awards a Campaign easy. There are that many awards and people. That's one side. And Just curious... can you give someone a role more than once on Discord? I'm guessing not... so getting Award X in campaign 1 would mean that your account would never reflect earning it on later campaigns, would it? Are you saying a Player who earns an award should see it like a Steam achievement that you get once and that's it for good?

Players who don't/can't participate on Discord would not get anything at all.

[fading dune]

So let’s make sure we’re on the same page—damn my English...

1. Only high-ranking HCs can assign awards, so there’s no voting. Last but not least, there need to facilitate the assignment of this role—because we need a specific role, granted by the CRS—that allows HCs to assign roles to players.
2. 250 roles is an infinite number of roles, so it’s practically an unlimited limit.
3. True, you can’t duplicate a role, so if a player receives the same award twice, it won’t be visible.
   But I’ll say it again, who cares? It seems to me like you’re nitpicking. It’s clear that Discord is currently the platform most used by players, and it’s also clear that it’s followed by many—almost everyone. Sure, some people won’t use it, that’s true, but whatever... And it’s still better than the current system that doesn’t work, except for the occasional awards from you or delems 🙄
   Of course it won't be perfect but it's definitely much better than the current system 🙂