Cutting towns - make it 24 hours instead of current 12 hours

[gilded bronze]

When you cut towns, it makes sense for those towns to stay cut until 24 hours, where they surrender.

Right now it's 12 hours. Or is it 6 hours? Not the point - but right now, if you cut towns, players in other TZ won't have an opportunity to uncut the cut. Because the white flags don't last for 24 hours.

This needs to change, so that ALL TZs have an opportunity to uncut the cut, giving them a fair chance to at least try and attack more. Otherwise, the "turtling" mode will always happen, and this is where attacking becomes less frequent in high pops. We don't want that, do we?

So yeah, do change from 12 or 6 hours to 24 hours for white flags.

[unique karma]

+1 👍 I really like "your" idea 😂

[gilded bronze]

yes, i stole it from you :P

[junior gale]

Nah, 12 is fine; it is just under 3 game days (12 real hours)

[unique karma]

The days following tz3 are not particularly significant. In any case, a large besieged city would hold out much longer than three days, but who cares? I mean, giving all players the chance to try to save besieged cities could be fantastic, right? 😉

[vagrant copper]

Nah, it would threaten the lowpop gains that both sides benefit from.... complaining noises my side never benefits and the other abuses it

[junior gale]

idk, you'd run out of ammo pretty fast? If actually fighting those 3 days

[gilded bronze]

absolutely not....

12 is not really enough lol, how can players from TZ not save the cut when it isn't given to them as an opportunity?

are you basically encouraging more turtle plays?

because that is exactly what is happening - big cut, other side loses motivation to play, and 12 hrs - that's even more brutal

otherwise what's the point..

[vagrant copper]

If i cut a town at 12am est and then it surrenders 12pm est, most people in that tz are asleep when its cut and then at work when it surrenders, 20 hours would take it to 8pm where most would probably be able to get on and try to save it

[stuck stratus]

Would cut down on the mindset of “defend until the cutoff towns are off the map” and maybe give hc a chance to counter with garrison moves to the cutoff sector

[junior gale]

Increasing the timer would just make the side that had the cut turtle more? To defend the cut?

It makes complete sense to p1 defend the cut, isn't that obvious?

[stuck stratus]

For that long?

[orchid brook]

Wasn't it 24hrs before garrisons

[eager pollen]

I’d say make it that they don’t surrender at all, they just lose resupply. Some towns we never fight in, because of cuts. Let’s go blow some stuff up.

[junior gale]

Use to be 6 hours, then changed to 12

[orchid brook]

I'm sure it got changed after 1.36 though. I can't comment about the current situation having been out of the game for a long time

[gilded bronze]

never happened in the last 3-4 years

but before that? who knows

[dusk flare]

I'll discuss this with the team. I can see the value in this and it's not difficult to introduce a change like this.

[unique karma]

24 hours is probably too long because it would allow TZ3 to do it again or finish it completely. I think 16 or 18 might be adequate.

[eager pollen]

Make them not surrender, just unsupplied.

[dusk flare]

We won't be having them sit there in an unsurrender / stay there for ever state. This was introduced for a reason.

[eager pollen]

I think I was on hiatus during that time. What would happen?

[junior gale]

They would leave the pocket intact; and all the flags in it would be out of game for rest of map

Auto surrender was one of the best features ever implemented in game, imo