Pestilence reflection kill

[pulsar willow]

Each time someone tries to kill the pestilence they die, what if for the roles that dont kill directly they get killed by their own role, for example if the pestilence gets bitten the vampire should die in the ammount of seconds a normal bite would kill lets say 10 or a meeting is called

Not usefull but would be very cool if possible

[rich reef]

Not usefull you say? Just imagine eating the Pelican

[wise pond]

imagine getting uno reversed like that

[pulsar willow]

Imagine hanging the hangman

[hollow marten]

Imagine

[pulsar willow]

This being added would add little spice to pestilence lol

Being pestilence is fun but its basically like being a impostor in vanilla lobby

[tropic gate]

Pestilence almost always has a very high risk of getting outed if they transform early because of interactors so this would be a lovely change.

[rich reef]

Non direct kill interactions like Monarch should still kill the one who interacted tho

[pulsar willow]

no monarch doesnt die to pestilence lmao?😭

If it does it shouldnt

[tropic gate]

It does and why shouldnt it?

Pestilence kills EVERYONE who interacts with them. That is how the role works and its intended purpose

[rich reef]

Pestilence works like veteran alert so it kills everyone who interacts with you unlike Cursed Wolf and Jinx

[pulsar willow]

ah i see mb

[wise pond]

oh i thought it was like reverse fragile and killed whoever interacted

[pulsar willow]

No its for example if pelican tries to eat you, then They would get also eaten, this would also mean it also follows the debufs of the role so the pelican COULD comeback

[opal canopy]

Isn't eating Pelican game-breaking?

[pulsar willow]

no why would it be ???

[opal canopy]

Just asking

[pulsar willow]

Naur its fine

[ember herald]

Pretty sure Pestilence reflects all interactions rather than only kills unlike veteran

[tropic gate]

Yes

[ember herald]

If a role doesn't kill at all it would die normally no?

When trying to interact with Pestilence

[tropic gate]

Yes

Anyone who interacts with Pestilence is blocked and counter attacked with an unstoppable attack

[rich reef]

wait wth

Pestilence doesnt kill the Monarch when Monarch Knights Pestilence

Ok so Pestilence only reflect attacks with literal kill intercations

[tropic gate]

Thats a bug then. Pestilence attacks anyone who directly interacts with them. Monarch directly interacts

[ember herald]

I think it's because monarch is immortal

[pulsar willow]

Yea ^^

[ember herald]

not even pestilence can take him down...

[rich reef]

Ok so why Romantic doesnt die when they select Pestilence as their Partner

[ember herald]

Idk

[rich reef]

It just with kill interactions probably

Like the cat

[ember herald]

I have no idea 🤷

[wise pond]

I would love getting pesti as my partner

[pulsar willow]

Bump

[bronze pebble]

It reflects jailer

[wise pond]

i think thats cause jailer can kill

[tropic gate]

Jailer is interacting with Pestilence so Pestilence kills them

[rich reef]

That probably counts as a kill interaction, same with Pursuer and Deceiver

[pulsar willow]

Bump

[lone patrol]

Does the Serial Killer also reflect it back the same way?

[rich reef]

Idk anything about Serial Killer

[tropic gate]

Pestilence blocks and counterattacks ALL kill button interactions

Its not rocket science yall

[pulsar willow]

seriously tho what does serial killer even do😭

[bronze pebble]

Pestilence dosent block killing machine I believe

Killing machine is more powerful than pestilence

[tropic gate]

Then thats a bug. Pestilence is supposed to have Invulnerable defense

[rich reef]

I think the thing with km and pestilence its intentional

Also Pestilence doesnt block "harmless interactions" such as Overseer, Monarch or Romantic

[pulsar willow]

Overseer should fall as harmfull and yes true

[lone patrol]

Does the Copycat check to see if Pestilence is copyable?

[pulsar willow]

uh no they die

I think

[rich reef]

They dont

It just says you cant copy their role

[rich reef]

Pestilence cant be copied by Copycat, Copycat doesnt die trying to copy Pestilence

[bronze pebble]

Killing machine bypasses all forms of shielding so it makes sense for killing machine to kill pestilence

[rich reef]

It shouldnt in my opinion

I know Killing Machine its trash and all of that but cmon

[tropic gate]

Killing Machine has powerful attack, not unstoppable. Only War and Pestilence have Unstoppable attack

[rich reef]

Btw Serial Killer protects you from Deputy, Deceiver and Pursuer. I didn't test every role but doesn't seem like they are going to work, I tried Puppeteer, YinYanger, Witch, Consigliere, Warlock and Shaman, none of them worked

[lone patrol]

I think it also protects from an Infectious too

If I’m not mistaken

[rich reef]

Infectious just kills SK rather than infecting them unlike any other nk

[lone patrol]

So, a powerful attack does something, right?

[tropic gate]

Powerful attack goes through things like Medic shield

[ember herald]

Like Killing Machine

[lone patrol]

Ah okay

[lone patrol]

So a role with a powerful attack is able to bypass shields. Killing Machine is one role that does it. Hangman does it by strangling (can't do it by normal kills). We don't have ToU-R Werewolf, but it may happen for that once the role gets reworked. When the Werewolf is rampaging, they'll be able to bypass any shield (they can't kill the Nice Mini or Transformed Neutral Apocalypse).

[wise pond]

pestilences kill gets stopped by demon health

[pulsar willow]

Bump

[pulsar willow]

Bump

[warped wave]

I agree with pestilence needing a reflection change, but only for guessing. Currently the only apocalypse role that can't be guessed when setting is turned on

[restive mesa]

killing machine's entire thing is going through shields so I feel like it has unstoppable attack actually (medic would be considered powerful defense if we're using this logic)

[rich reef]

hi

[restive mesa]

nah

[pulsar willow]

wdym nah

[restive mesa]

i dont find it necessary nor does it make sense from the source material