Nebula | A Minimal Theme for Zen

[paper sky]

Transparency for Search box

Control panel gone crazy

[strong cedar]

shittt what the rfuck

[paper sky]

must be my prob...

There's is a blank space where Copy link icon is supposed to be

wehn clicked on it, it works, but just doesn't show icon

[strong cedar]

hmm

[paper sky]

finder bar

[strong cedar]

yeah i managed to fix this

[paper sky]

Url bar square

Transparency

also, can you add the option to keep the original New tab button instead of the plus button?

[strong cedar]

?

[strong cedar]

oh that

yeah i fixed that

[strong cedar]

fixed

[strong cedar]

i didnt change it to a plus??

is that from a new zen update

[paper sky]

No, it's been like that

it's nebula's theme that makes it a plus button

[strong cedar]

wtffff

uh

[paper sky]

look this is without theme

only nebula installed

[strong cedar]

hmmmm

[paper sky]

Also, with Tidy Tabs mod,

It doesn't show the text

idk what I'm clicking at

[strong cedar]

prob because of pinned extensions option in nebula

turning that off will fix it

its not really fixable

[paper sky]

Idk if it's a bug or smtg, but when changing tabs, or workspaces, the Sidepanel goes insane

It like starts arranging the essentials, and extensions vertically

It's just for a split second

Before loading back to normal

[strong cedar]

uh

im able to switch

perfectly

lmao

[dim sage]

Update when

[strong cedar]

when i get sidebar to be blurred again

idk why tf it is not working now

tried so many things

well i just pushed a v3.3.1 update

fixing many of the major bugs

[quasi fulcrum]

Does it fixed url bar in compact mode?

[strong cedar]

yeah probably

if you mean it being stuck

then yes

[quasi fulcrum]

Lemme see when I'm home

[strong cedar]

sure

[paper sky]

It's when you load a tab igg

[strong cedar]

still working fine...

lmao

[paper sky]

when u releasing fix?

oh already released

Daym

compact mode transparency not working rn

The URL bar is curved originally, but then when clicked on it and it opens the floating box, it becomes square again

idk if it's a big issue but look into it ig?

[strong cedar]

ik

i just cant get it to work

[strong cedar]

yeah its there since day 1 lol

its some pseudo shape there when urlbar is opened

[flint nacelle]

@strong cedar When you opened Discord, how many pings you had?

🤔

[paper sky]

Oh yeaahhh.. it even fixes the new tab being a plus icon

[strong cedar]

9 i guess

[strong cedar]

it fixes? does not fix it for me 😭

lmao

[flint nacelle]

Oh, also did you find the extension menu?

In Zen...

[strong cedar]

yea

it looks

sick

cheff cooked

[flint nacelle]

There were many issues on GitHub created that addon menu is lost after version upgrade. lol

[strong cedar]

lmao

ALSO

BROOOO

[flint nacelle]

You even styled the menu rn? {{.}}

[strong cedar]

BROOOO

I FINALLY

[strong cedar]

i didnt, its default

[flint nacelle]

?

[strong cedar]

managed to make compact sidebar blurred again

lessgo

[paper sky]

YEAAAYY

[flint nacelle]

Default.

[paper sky]

i don't even use compact mode lmao

[strong cedar]

oh well maybe my pinned extensions border radius must be applying to it

[flint nacelle]

Btw how does this font look?

[strong cedar]

looks like

discord vibes

idk

prob seen this font somewhere

[flint nacelle]

"discord vibes" 🥀

[strong cedar]

also

how to remove outline from titlebar

[flint nacelle]

show ss

idk wym

[strong cedar]

this outline from compact sidebar

[flint nacelle]

I don't have it

[strong cedar]

uhm

ok

worked

[paper sky]

a suggestion, can you make the url in the url bar centre algined?

Maybe an option to enable that

[paper sky]

like this

[strong cedar]

i can but it causes lot of alignment issues

[split violet]

uhm??? yeah i dont know why there is space in front of the extensions

[paper sky]

alr alr

[paper sky]

pretty sure it's your other mods or themes

Disable them, if it doesn't work then better clear the whole chrome folder from the profile

Cuz sometimes the mods leave behind bugs even after being removed

Happened with me

[flint nacelle]

It doesn't with the new ui.

[paper sky]

hey, question - How do I change the font of my browser UI? If I change in settings, it doesn't apply to UI. I want the arc style Nunito font

[flint nacelle]

Well, use the theme itself - Arc2.0

It's there in Sine Marketplace

[strong cedar]

no idea

[strong cedar]

use

  font-family: "SF Pro" !important;
}

i mean i use this as it works on my zen

[paper sky]

where do I put it??

[wild wave]

Hi, a lurker here, I encounter this bug when ONLY using compact mode, I created another profile for testing, installed Sine, and tested only installing arc(the issue persist) and then nebula(the issue persist) I mean, never installed both at the same time. If I disable any of the themes, the bug is not there. Zen looks and works as normal.

In the image there are more than 10 tabs and is not the "testing" profile i mentioned earlier. I can scroll through then, but idk why it is cursed lmao

[strong cedar]

userchrome.css

[strong cedar]

yeah collapsed toolbar is broken right now 😭

[wild wave]

oooh, gotcha, it's okay, thanks for replying

[paper sky]

when I use it, It enlarges the workspace icons, and makes workspace indicator name smaller

[quasi fulcrum]

Let's goooo, I'm a compact mode user

[strong cedar]

i guess it just depends on the font

using the sf pro which i got from equinox

it works fine

[flint nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/spook-spooky-frightening-approach-cat-gif-3742264940980284615

[strong cedar]

btw

[quasi fulcrum]

also, yeah, mine just +, no hover style or something

[strong cedar]

found a fix for collapsed sidebar monstrosity??

[flint nacelle]

With JS?

[strong cedar]

idk just any fix

[strong cedar]

same and no idea why this is happening, it looks exactly like https://discord.com/channels/1088172780480114748/1404796233591296081
but it is a nebula fork how is it in nebula now

no clue

[strong cedar]

@flint nacelle and i guess this is happening on arc2.0 too

[flint nacelle]

Yes, well what monstrosity you have fixed? There are many...

[strong cedar]

have not fixed yet

thats why

im asking u if u have

since its a common issue

oh wait

looks like

i found a fix

commenting this out

[flint nacelle]

Doesn't fix for me... .

[strong cedar]

fixed it for me tho

[flint nacelle]

What? Don't you see that workspace buttons overlapping with tabs?

Same happening to me

[strong cedar]

yeah that is an old issue

its caused due to the workspace buttons code i have which makes them a bit weird floating buttons

i was talking about the tabs not visible in collapsed toolbar

[flint nacelle]

Have you also resolved mutiple toolbar mode?

[strong cedar]

what is issue on that

[flint nacelle]

Just enable it on Nubulu

[strong cedar]

i am using it

[flint nacelle]

Yeah, select hide both on compact mode

and hover on urlbar and click on it

[strong cedar]

here

[flint nacelle]

Nubulu doesn't have this anymore?

[strong cedar]

you mean the unstyled urlbar?

nah i fixed it, apparently zen changed the .urlbar-background to #urlbar-background or smth

that was causing it

[flint nacelle]

It is styled... Like this isn't default look, is it...

[strong cedar]

i mean

it looks gray on your zen

like how default one is

and not rounded

[gaunt oar]

transparent sidebar

can u fix

[strong cedar]

yeah i fixed it
will add it to v3.3.2 shortly

[paper sky]

any idea when you'll release the new fix?

[quasi fulcrum]

How do you able to get this transparency on settings? I didn't have this with only Nebula
Also, the URL bar too, how is it have blur effect?

[hard inlet]

whoa you’re back

[hard inlet]

oh lol what it looks like my mod.. without my mod?

[quasi fulcrum]

sorry, what is your mod?

[hard inlet]

#1404796233591296081

[hard inlet]

what he mentioned here

[quasi fulcrum]

oh lol, then it's nebula. I didn't use new tab button mod neither

[hard inlet]

yea interesting that it does that lol

[buoyant zephyr]

hey i have a problem where my extensions wouldnt load, as well as the favorites or pin icons

[buoyant zephyr]

same issue

[flint nacelle]

@strong cedar you there?

[strong cedar]

today or tmrw

[strong cedar]

it was broken in v3.3 due to zen updates, i fixed it from my side so will update nebula shortly

[strong cedar]

hihi

[strong cedar]

yeah but for some reason now in my own nebula without this mod i still see only the + icon 😭 idk what is wrong

[strong cedar]

uh can you try disabling nebula and seeing if then the extensions load
because for me the extensions are loading properly

[flint nacelle]

@strong cedar Who will reply me?

I pinged you...

just now

[strong cedar]

hiii

[strong cedar]

hiiiiii

[flint nacelle]

I checked Live editor, and it's still .urlbar-background

How does it work for you then?

[strong cedar]

oh wait it changed from # to .

new code which works

[flint nacelle]

There is a stretch animation?

[strong cedar]

no? where

[flint nacelle]

Oh, I mean animation similar to that of menu where each item appears one by one quickly.

[strong cedar]

yeah i have the one which natsumi used to have in 2.0

just modified the keyframes

its my fav

[strong cedar]

https://github.com/sineorg/store/pull/147

[dim sage]

Your pinned extension module causes it

[strong cedar]

wait whatttttt

the pinned extensions mod causes the newtab button to just show +??????

what the fuck

[dim sage]

I've dm'ed you about this before

[strong cedar]

ohhhhh

😭

thats crazy

i thought

i mean

it was for something else

for ai tab sorting button

[somber nymph]

yo

you figured out the new changes for multi toolbar?

[strong cedar]

what are the new changes

[somber nymph]

idek
but the thing is css that used @media not (-moz-bool-pref: "zen.view.use-single-toolbar")
aren't working anymore

[strong cedar]

@flint nacelle

[strong cedar]

wait whatttttt

[flint nacelle]

-moz-bool-pref won't work anymore.
cosmo instead recommends to use -moz-pref only.

[strong cedar]

wait but why do u need to use this

[buoyant zephyr]

wait how do i do that :Đ

[strong cedar]

ahh YESS FINALLY

[somber nymph]

uhh well I change the sidebar height, and position for mult toolbar

[strong cedar]

i guess zen added support for moz-pref way back and on day 1 i changed all my moz-bool-pref to moz-pref cuz i knew they were gonna delete bool prefs

[strong cedar]

go to settings and go to sine tab

there you can disable nebula

[somber nymph]

but that is for the user defined prefs
not zen right?

[flint nacelle]

I can't even get transparent settings though I kept reinstalling nubulu... What to do!

[strong cedar]

this is new format i believe

[strong cedar]

u cant cuz its not in nebula yet

[somber nymph]

@flint nacelle what is broken in arc 2.0 with the new update?

[flint nacelle]

idk, but jusrt use -moz-pref, not that hard...

[somber nymph]

yeah was about to mention this

i'll try

[strong cedar]

i fixed settings page on my nebula will update shortly

[flint nacelle]

All the layout modes except single toolbar mode.

[somber nymph]

yeah

[strong cedar]

i just use stuff like this

[somber nymph]

oh that's clean

[strong cedar]

yeah saves a lot of time and headache

[flint nacelle]

Release out when?

[strong cedar]

well

i dont want to release v3.4 and keep releasing v3.3.x as i still have added no features

[flint nacelle]

Wait, you've predefined colors for containers styling, right?

[strong cedar]

they are default zen container colors

not custom

[flint nacelle]

Like the styling color won't change if the container color is changed in settings

[strong cedar]

it will change

[flint nacelle]

whaattt, why tf then arcline has predefined colors

[strong cedar]

😂 no idea

[flint nacelle]

alr lemme brainstorm what can be added

[buoyant zephyr]

do i have to download that? is there a way i can uninstall and reinstall nebula again

i tried disabling all the zen mods and the issue still persists

[flint nacelle]

You need Sine bro

[buoyant zephyr]

sorry idk what that is 😭 i need more details

[flint nacelle]

https://github.com/CosmoCreeper/Sine Install this

[strong cedar]

wait are you not using nebula through sine?

[buoyant zephyr]

yeaa i installed nebula for a while

i dont think i had to install that

[strong cedar]

i guess you just pasted nebula files in chrome folder that also work but has limited functionality

[flint nacelle]

@strong cedar You there?

[strong cedar]

hi @flint nacelle

[flint nacelle]

https://gemini.google.com/share/873089da08ab

This is what Gemini PRO says

[strong cedar]

lmao

[flint nacelle]

What, you can actually add some of these lol!

[flint nacelle]

https://gemini.google.com/share/ed2393c2f544
More valuable suggestions added.
What I suggest is release the fix with v3.3.2, then work on any of these suggestions you like.

[strong cedar]

just pushed v3.3.2

lmk if you guys have bugs

[lilac rampart]

I have a bug, nebula stole my wife

[strong cedar]

nubulu*

[muted mango]

Thank you!!

But I don't see it on GitHub 🤔

[wild leaf]

Have you fixed it?

[red wing]

Using Poppins font rn, and idk why my Windows controls look like this anyone know a fix?

[wild wave]

How can I match your seamless blur?
mine:

edit: i think my current profile is cursed.

[dusty aspen]

any chance anyone else having this issue

for more context, the previous bug of findbar staying stuck (grey), is kinda there but doesnt stay one infinitely like before, and then the huge 50% findbar in themecolor (blue)

[solid hawk]

is nebula fixed?

[cerulean rapids]

90%

[solid hawk]

I am facing a issue when I am trying to search anything the browser clotted

it's like 120fps to 15fps

[cerulean rapids]

the miniplayer background

[hard inlet]

yeah thats weird did you find a fix?

[hard inlet]

that seems fine to me, it goes off the colours in the video thumbnail so if that’s primarily red this will be red too

[cerulean rapids]

its not the color, the problem is that the background is leaking outside the miniplayer

[hard inlet]

as far as i remember i think that was intended

[strong cedar]

its only as a minor bug fix update so yeah it wont be there on release

[strong cedar]

use the nogaps mod in nebula's setting

[strong cedar]

shiii what the fuck

[strong cedar]

thats wild, for me the findbar looks perfectly normal can you make sure you dont have other mods and you are using latest zen 1.17.2

[strong cedar]

search as in from findbar?

[strong cedar]

whats wrong?

[strong cedar]

yup

[strong cedar]

that was intentional as i found it to look very weird when background was contained

[cerulean rapids]

oh, ok then, I just found weird the background beyond the sidebar

but being shapeless inside the sidebar is fine imo

[strong cedar]

blame @flint nacelle he gave me the code for it which had this bleeding blur 😂😂

jkjk

also wtf people making reddit posts about me getting back to update nebula

crazy work

[dusty aspen]

fixed

Sorry I had Betterfindbar mod installed

[wild wave]

I found out in another profile, it works as expected, no weird things happening or alignment issues so I just basically use it there.

My previous profile was indeed cursed af

[hard inlet]

that’s good

[solid hawk]

Yes ctrl+t if there is no animation it working fine but whenever I selection a animation too laggy

[flint nacelle]

.

[vague frost]

This actually Zen has merged with Firefox. When I tested CMI on Firefox, I found that -moz-bool-pref no longer works in the new version, but -moz-pref is still usable.

[paper sky]

Yeaa I told you that too

It also caused the Tab management mod to not render

@strong cedar Also, in the new 3.3.2 update, there's still no transparency for Compact mode Sidebar

[paper sky]

Yea, I fixed it.. it was jus bugs caused by other mods so I cleared my whole chrome folder and installed nebula fresh

[strong cedar]

this is due to mica4everyone not updated yet, use dwmblurglass instead

[strong cedar]

yess, thats why nebula was already moz-bool-pref free

[dim sage]

Yo compact mode sidebar is not blurred when on full screen (f11)

[strong cedar]

works for me

[dim sage]

Aight I'll check again

[flint nacelle]

@strong cedar If I have set a primary color for workspace via Theme menu, then why tf does Essential take that color as well??? .

[strong cedar]

wdym

show example

[flint nacelle]

lemme record ts

[flint nacelle]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/um6cwdb02cusx6e2h9udh/explorer_EvPN4shoba.mp4?rlkey=zhy8ep8m488cxzkl2ywvy2inz&dl=0

[strong cedar]

isint that just default zen

[flint nacelle]

yes, but I don't like it. Any css/js to prevent this, then add it to Nubulu man.

I mean why affect the gradient of favicon like that...

Mauro should see it should not be like this, but he still might not correct it!

[strong cedar]

nebula isint affected by it at all

[flint nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/spook-spooky-frightening-approach-cat-gif-3742264940980284615

How

[strong cedar]

this is literally in nebula since day 1

[flint nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-what-huh-confused-kitten-gif-16578675544592554435

[strong cedar]

this essential styling was the thing which motivated me to style zen more 😂

[flint nacelle]

So many !important

[strong cedar]

literally without !important zen finds a way to make the code not work 😭

[flint nacelle]

😵

[strong cedar]

bro

i was testing arc2.0

cuz i was bored

[flint nacelle]

.

[strong cedar]

and oh my god i literally died after looking at the pref.json

😂

what the actual fuck

[flint nacelle]

Yeah, CTG did it, so ask him

[strong cedar]

ctg?

[flint nacelle]

CompTechGuy, No-Gaps mod dev

[strong cedar]

oj

oh

lmfaooo

meanwhile nebula

[flint nacelle]

Vibe-coding supremacy ✨

[strong cedar]

nah the chatgpt versions of pref were sooo bad i had to make them myself from scratch

[flint nacelle]

oo

[strong cedar]

btw

what are your fav pref.json setup

i will set arc2.0 pref in that way

[flint nacelle]

Gemini could have done better...

[flint nacelle]

Nebula ofc!

[strong cedar]

even gemini didnt

i didnt like it

[strong cedar]

no no

i mean

how have you configured these options

in arc2.0

which to turn on and which to off

[flint nacelle]

yes

well, these are in order of first part as basic features which are instantly noticeable when browser is opened

2nd part is a bit more in-depth customization of browser

[strong cedar]

hmm

[flint nacelle]

3rd part is AI and performance stuff

And 4th part is compact sidebar size and font preferences

[strong cedar]

@flint nacelle cant replicate

[flint nacelle]

Bro uses Chrome...

[strong cedar]

yeah for online exams

the website glitches on edge and firefox

[flint nacelle]

L website

[strong cedar]

also

i cant replicate that infinite width sidebar glitch

lmao

[flint nacelle]

You need to enable collapsed sidebar mode when you are in compact mode with both hidden in Sidebar and Top toolbar mode.

[strong cedar]

i guess i did just that

[slate parrot]

I kept checking this chat every now and then to see how bad the wildfire that was watching people beg for your return had gotten

It's all been so bad that I've finally switched off zen

I'm merely a spectator here now

[strong cedar]

shi was it that bad

[slate parrot]

I check in here every now and then just to see if the entire thing has burned to the ground, and every time i check this channel it's more people begging for your return to fix more and more busted shit lmfao

[strong cedar]

lmao expected

but yeah i did fix most of the stuff yesterday

[slate parrot]

There was an entire fork created by someone else that fixed most of the issues

But not all

Iirc

But with the creator of neo zen not updating it anymore, i finally switched to floorp

[strong cedar]

ah yes i saw that

[strong cedar]

neo zen is also dead?

[slate parrot]

Yep

[strong cedar]

damn

[slate parrot]

Like officially tho

[strong cedar]

i liked neo zen

it actually had cool stuff

[slate parrot]

Not like a random disappearance like you lmfao

Officially just deadge

[strong cedar]

i mean i told everyone im going offline

ill go offline soon again tho

heard people were doing funerals of me here or some shit

[slate parrot]

Best hope nothing breaks immediately after you leave again lmao

[strong cedar]

same, but looks like every now and then cheff decides to change something ever so slightly that it breaks nebula css

[slate parrot]

Yep lmfao

[strong cedar]

looks like now i need an ai which will update nebula itself to fix when zen gets new updatwe

[slate parrot]

I still like zen, but stuff broke custom css so often i just couldn't

So

I switched to floorp, and green is pretty on top of updating natsumi in the event something does actually break

[strong cedar]

yea

[slate parrot]

There was some functionality that zen has that floorp doesn't, but I've managed to fix most of it with js

And natsumi

[strong cedar]

oh nice

i wish zen still had natsumi

but anyways

[slate parrot]

Either way, glad to see you back for a bit to put out the fires lmfao

[strong cedar]

fr lol

[slate parrot]

And on that note, i return to being a spectator

Popcorn on standby

[flint nacelle]

Did you choose? I am so eager to see what you gonna add in v3.4!!!

[strong cedar]

nah didnt like any till now

[flint nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/indignation-jump-window-done-gif-3443826

[shut oracle]

whenever I try to ctrl + t while in compact mode, this happens

I was wondering if there is a soln to this or nah

[shut oracle]

(ping me when replying to this)

[flint nacelle]

Reinstall Nebula.

[shut oracle]

I did it thru sine so would it work if I reinstall it from there?

[flint nacelle]

Yes

[shut oracle]

problem persists

[flint nacelle]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/kvxtvin71ek0mna8qi82e/explorer_5nCS9aM06N.mp4?rlkey=r7z03y81kxg2q5j5d07uitx0f&dl=0

[shut oracle]

didnt really get what you mean

If this helps, I face this problem in single toolbar mode only

[paper sky]

heyy

@strong cedar My nebula doesn't have compact mode transparency

I've updated to v3.3.2

[strong cedar]

are you on zen 1.17.3 and nebula v3.3.2 with no other mod? since this issue was fixed a month ago and i cant replicate it now

[strong cedar]

using nebula without any other mods right

[paper sky]

yes

no other mods

[strong cedar]

uh wtf how

v3.3.2 and 1.17.3b?

[paper sky]

hollup lemme clean install it again

[paper sky]

yep

[strong cedar]

better to try on a seperate profile i guess

try reinstalling nebula from sinestore

[paper sky]

ok

[shut oracle]

Yes I am on that

these are the mods I am using

I don't think they should conflict with nebula? correct me if I am wrong

[paper sky]

I treid on new profile but same issue

I'm using DWMglassblur

with config settings set to true

[strong cedar]

they can, try disabling

[bold escarp]

Hi! Got news that nebula has been updated. Wondering if it is possible to extract just the blur on the compact sidebar?

[strong cedar]

nebula gets affected by literally anything

[shut oracle]

alright

[strong cedar]

i can give that part of the code if you want

[strong cedar]

weirdddd

how is it even happening

[bold escarp]

I want it. Really appreciate it!

[paper sky]

idkk

[strong cedar]

/* Disable outline */
.zen-toolbar-background::before,
.zen-toolbar-background::after {
  outline: none !important;
}

/* Normal compact mode with blur */
html[nebula-compact-mode] #titlebar > .zen-browser-generic-background {
  padding: 8px;
  border-radius: 13px !important;
  background-color: light-dark(rgba(255,255,255,0.4), rgba(0,0,0,0.4)) !important;
  backdrop-filter: blur(32px) saturate(140%) !important;
}

/* When urlbar is open */
html[nebula-compact-mode]:has(#urlbar[open]) > .zen-browser-generic-background {
  backdrop-filter: none !important;
  background: light-dark(rgba(200,200,200,1), rgba(20,20,20,1)) !important;
}```

[bold escarp]

Thanks for this! 😄 thank you for keeping the theme alive.

[strong cedar]

always

[strong cedar]

uhm are you using transparent websites

[shut oracle]

issue persists

[paper sky]

no.. no other mods

[strong cedar]

wow

[shut oracle]

atp Ill reinstall zen 😐

[strong cedar]

wait wait

[shut oracle]

could it also be due to mica?

[strong cedar]

i dont think so

[strong cedar]

did you try deleting nebula from sine and installing it again

[paper sky]

yes

[bold escarp]

Am I missing something? It's just plain gray. I have my transparent browser enabled on config. Also, I tried I replacing "[nebula-compact-mode]" to "[zen-compact-mode="true"]"

[strong cedar]

hmm so it seems like a widespread issue

[paper sky]

there we go. Same issue for me

[shut oracle]

what are you trying to indicate thru this?

[strong cedar]

my urlbar is not shifting the way yours is

[shut oracle]

oh

[strong cedar]

am i doing it correctly to what your issue is

[shut oracle]

wait lemme reinstall nebula

[shut oracle]

manually

[shut oracle]

yeah

[strong cedar]

windows 11?

[shut oracle]

will get back to you in a bit

[strong cedar]

alr

[paper sky]

yep

[shut oracle]

another thing I wanted to ask is that is there any way to get this transulcent too?

[strong cedar]

it will be grey for transparent websites but should be blurred on solid background websites, is it?

transparent website vs solid background website

[shut oracle]

got it working!

thanks for the help and making my browser cool with a cool ass theme🫡

[shut oracle]

if you know how I could do this, it'd be amazing

[strong cedar]

oh sorry the images i sent above were replying to you

bymistakely replied to orian

[shut oracle]

oh I see

Thank you ^^

[strong cedar]

is it blurred?

if not, then it looks like many people are facing this bug

[cerulean rapids]

my sidebar is also not transparent, and i use 2 mods besides nebula

[shut oracle]

wait lemme try it on wikipedia

[strong cedar]

uhh what is even causing it 😭

why is mine blurred just fine

[shut oracle]

same

[strong cedar]

thats

crazy

[shut oracle]

rip, see you in debugging heaven(? idk I dont code)

[strong cedar]

i dont code either

[shut oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[strong cedar]

OHH

GUYS

I F

FOUND

THE ISSUE

LESSGOOOOO

[shut oracle]

OH?

[strong cedar]

basically, if you dont have any theme color set, for some reason then the compact sidebar will not be blurred

[bold escarp]

Let's goooo

[strong cedar]

if you have a theme color set but at 0 contrast then it will be blurred

[bold escarp]

Trying it now

[shut oracle]

trying

[cerulean rapids]

Also, in light mode, the highlighted search text is white, which makes it harder to read. I think this is also happening in default Zen (cant test right now), but if its possible to change that with nebula, would be nice

[shut oracle]

Congrats @strong cedar you found the issue!

[strong cedar]

ah yes, i suppose your tabs on sidebar are black btw right?

[cerulean rapids]

they are white. Or do you mean in compact mode? or after i set a theme color?

[strong cedar]

hmm

[cerulean rapids]

now that i picked a theme color with contrast 0, they are black, yes

not only in compact mode

[paper sky]

I have custom colors set for my workspaces which are not recognized as offcial colors for Zen... If I set a color for my workspace, it slightly cahnges which I don't want

[strong cedar]

ok i kinda fixed it, will push update

[paper sky]

can u just fix the compact mode transparency without it needing to have a color

[strong cedar]

yea i found the issue now so it may be easy to fix it

[paper sky]

alr alr

[shut oracle]

I TURNED ON THE MODS THINKING IT WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH NEBULAS INSTALLATION AND ITS HAPPENING AGAIN 😭

[strong cedar]

lmaoo

seems like a mod is causing it?

[shut oracle]

idk at this point

I uninstalled nebula again from sine and the tab glow thingy did not revert back to default?

[strong cedar]

looks like the variables are not being defined

try restarting

and yeah they will not reset to the default zen color, they are saved in zen

[shut oracle]

I see

I'm starting to crash out, wtf is going on with this browser why isn't it fixing itself

[shut oracle]

Hey, I disabled nebula too and its still happening, what do you think?

[strong cedar]

thats crazy

[dim sage]

My compact mode sidebar is not blurred when using F11 fullscreen. This also happened with Arc2.0 btw.

[paper sky]

is it just me or has Zen become supper choppy?

[strong cedar]

ehh

[strong cedar]

prob just nebula performance issues

[paper sky]

No it's not nebula

it's def zen

[drifting mica]

yo how much syllabus completed?

[paper sky]

gotta buy rtx5060 to run zen smoothly 💀

[strong cedar]

syllabus completed but revising 11th

[drifting mica]

how much getting in mocks?

[strong cedar]

got 160 ;-;

only attempted once

[paper sky]

for JEE?

[drifting mica]

full syllabus mock?

[strong cedar]

aits starting in november so yeah

[shut oracle]

you in HS? @strong cedar

[strong cedar]

yeah

[strong cedar]

hs?

[shut oracle]

High School

[strong cedar]

ye

[shut oracle]

oh damn me too

[shut oracle]

JEE? Zamn vro Indian too?

[drifting mica]

good thing i never really completed my syllabus even at the end atleast u did

[strong cedar]

ye we all indians here i guess

[shut oracle]

noice

[strong cedar]

well my syllabus complition was a disaste

[paper sky]

dauym man me in 10th.... HELP ME 😭

[shut oracle]

JEE '26?

[strong cedar]

yup

[shut oracle]

10th will go easy dont worry

"just go with the flow"

[strong cedar]

dw just focus on boards, dont worry about jee in 10th tbh

[drifting mica]

enojoy while u can

[shut oracle]

I am NEET '27

[strong cedar]

niceeee

[paper sky]

they exaggerate things so much it feels hard

[shut oracle]

say that to the foundations

[strong cedar]

at the end it may be but dw about jee

[shut oracle]

ykw I agree

[paper sky]

Nah, I ain't doing JEE. my big bro in IIT

[strong cedar]

oh sick

[shut oracle]

Dayumm

[strong cedar]

what you preparing for then

which branch

[paper sky]

the second I'm done with 10th, I'm outta this marks race

[drifting mica]

no arts students here 🥀

[paper sky]

NONEE

[strong cedar]

fr

[shut oracle]

planned which stream you'll take?

[strong cedar]

oh arts it is then

[paper sky]

I don't want to take any one field... I just want to create my own things

Business, engineering, developing, editing, Sales, Marketing, Trading

I'm already doing some of em'

[shut oracle]

shark tank intro type shi ngl

[drifting mica]

arts students either become cart vendor or dictators

[paper sky]

Commerce cuz Business is in my interest area but only for the sake of choosing

[strong cedar]

@flint nacelle

[paper sky]

https://youtube.com/@lazytic?si=d12bRfY4_0VUikoW

This my editing channel

[shut oracle]

nicee

[drifting mica]

editting in 2025

[paper sky]

I honestly don't know what I'm gonna do

I'd go for sales if I had to cover myself financially

[drifting mica]

u have genrerational wealth?

[shut oracle]

fuck fixing this browser Imma go complete my hw

[paper sky]

nahh

[shut oracle]

see y'all around 🫡

[drifting mica]

middle class dont think about stream pcm is forced

[paper sky]

I'm supposed to workout rn, but procrastinating with the excuse of this browser

[paper sky]

That don't apply to me

[strong cedar]

@drifting mica how much marks you got in 2025 attempt

[drifting mica]

such supporting parents

[strong cedar]

you got like 30k rank right

[paper sky]

ye

[shut oracle]

aakash basically made me quit going to the gym

[drifting mica]

would have been in college if so

[shut oracle]

weekend batches go crazy with schools

[paper sky]

I don't go to gym.... Calisthenics

[strong cedar]

lmao so what rank you got on how many marks

[shut oracle]

damn

[strong cedar]

i literally cant understand how do i revise

[shut oracle]

the lion doesn't revise

[strong cedar]

the questions seems easy but i cant remember shit

[shut oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-lion-mentality-stare-anything-that-speaks-small-dog-gif-15965921308779714815

[strong cedar]

it also doesnt have to give jee 😭

[drifting mica]

i think it was 90 percentile at 94marks

[strong cedar]

oh nice

[shut oracle]

good point

[paper sky]

IIT or Jee is honestly not that worth it

saying from the perspective of my brother

[strong cedar]

well

[shut oracle]

imo its oversaturated to the literal extreme

[strong cedar]

yeah

but nothing else is too

unless you get into politics

[drifting mica]

take arts

[paper sky]

He says it's useless rn...

[paper sky]

bruhhh

[strong cedar]

yeah, its only worth it if you get good rank and nit or above college

[drifting mica]

arts is so empty to extreme

[paper sky]

A race with TOO much competetion

[strong cedar]

exactly

[paper sky]

better to race with less competition

[shut oracle]

Medical field pays bad at the start and is oversaturated in urban areas

[strong cedar]

saw people getting top colleges while getting negative marks in either of the three subjects this year in neet

[drifting mica]

how much it takes to become doctor?

8 years i think ?

[shut oracle]

more

9 ish if you take MD

[drifting mica]

oo ic

[strong cedar]

8 years but 10 i heard

[shut oracle]

that is if you compete PG in the first attempt

[strong cedar]

10 years for more studies i guess

[paper sky]

yk, the reason these popular fields are popular in India is because the Nation needs people who can lift this country up... Increase it's economy, and overall make the country better. That's why our education system is forcing us to go to Medical, engineering and shi

cuz ppl in these fields are the foundation of a strong country

[shut oracle]

which I won't, I plan to take MS(ortho) and its like 13 + 2 ish more to pursue further qualifications

[drifting mica]

maybe even 20 if ur 5th dropper

[paper sky]

so in conclusion, we rn are just the slaves to our country's development

[shut oracle]

give NEET with your child 💯

there's an attempt limit on JEE right?

[paper sky]

If our country was developed, We would have the choice to dropout and chill from school like in America

[strong cedar]

2 i guess

[drifting mica]

2 for adv

[shut oracle]

India lacks in many things ngl

[paper sky]

GET OUTTA THIS COUNTRY

[drifting mica]

ok chillout

[paper sky]

ok ok

Aight see y'all later

[drifting mica]

he meant later

[flint nacelle]

This is the first thing you should seek for in transparency issues lol

[gaunt oar]

wow

[shut oracle]

gave up and switched to dual toolbar

honestly, I like the look

[gaunt oar]

The sidebar and transparent site background colors are different from each other. Is there a way to fix this? (I'm using Transparent zen mod for transperent bg sites)

[strong cedar]

never knew this was a thing

[strong cedar]

cant do anything, the transparent websites have no background to them, the color you see is the desktop color of your operating system which zen cant see, so basically for the code it seems like there is nothing there thats why the color applied to sidebar is different

[gaunt oar]

ah ok i got it

[solid hawk]

how you guys have the transparent website background?

[gaunt oar]

https://sameerasw.com/zen

[solid hawk]

without this?

[gaunt oar]

i using this way (zen internet addon and transparent zen mod)

[strong cedar]

just use the zen itnernet extension from firefox store

[gaunt oar]

no need transparent zen mod?

[strong cedar]

nope

i use it without having that mod

[gaunt oar]

aaaa

all bg is white 🙁

[strong cedar]

wtff 😂

[gaunt oar]

do u use extra app for transpareny

why im all white 😄

[flint nacelle]

well, you need DWMGlassBlur

[cosmic smelt]

Or mica for everyone

[flint nacelle]

DWM > MFE

[cosmic smelt]

I know that but we gotta say the alternatives man

[flint nacelle]

Ik, I mean @strong cedar said for some reason MFE isn't compatible with Nubulu

[strong cedar]

mica4everyone is still broken

[cosmic smelt]

Oh

ok

Gotcha

[strong cedar]

it has nothing to do with nebula

it breaks zen ui by adding weird black rectangles

[cosmic smelt]

Oh

[strong cedar]

on elements

[cosmic smelt]

That happens to everything

[strong cedar]

like urlbar

[cosmic smelt]

I know how to fix it

So simple

[strong cedar]

how

[flint nacelle]

.

[cosmic smelt]

Simple just add filter: blur(0.1px)

[cosmic smelt]

It happened to arc2.0, sine etc

[strong cedar]

why....

i use filter blur 32px

so

...

[cosmic smelt]

That might be backdrop-filter

[strong cedar]

oh

[cosmic smelt]

I am saying filter:

[strong cedar]

makes sense

[cosmic smelt]

not backdrop-filter

[strong cedar]

so basically

each element needs to have a filter: blur(0.01)

thats

crazy

[cosmic smelt]

I found it in accident

[strong cedar]

cheff will def like it

[cosmic smelt]

YUP

[flint nacelle]

yeah, tbh it isn't performance friendly lol

[strong cedar]

is it because that pushes the element to a new composting layer

or what

[cosmic smelt]

I think, the transparent makes the black thing on top like a shadow. And since it is solid. So making it a 0.001% blur tricks into of having not a shadow

[strong cedar]

hmm

whatever it is its very weird

thats why i switched to dwm

[flint nacelle]

Users continued to face this issue cause you didn't edit nubulu readme.md for MFE...

[cosmic smelt]

hmm after I did that, mica for everyone was working fine since then

[cosmic smelt]

It will not since it is just 0.0001px

it is not even a pixel

[strong cedar]

i can but installing dwm is so confusing for me i litt forgot how to do it lmao

[cosmic smelt]

I always confuse with it

Mica is easy and efficient to get the blur easily

[flint nacelle]

Oh no, it did create a significant impact with Nubulu transparency i remember

[cosmic smelt]

You didn't even try it in the first place

@strong cedar Lmk if it worked

[strong cedar]

exactly thats why i suggest mfe instead of dwm

mfe is just soo easy

[flint nacelle]

I tried, it didn't work, that's how I become a DWM user

[cosmic smelt]

No i mean let Nebula do the filter to 0.1 px blur then try it

[strong cedar]

yeah ig it should work

[flint nacelle]

You didn't understand - I mean MFE doesn't work at all on my system.

[cosmic smelt]

Oh LOl

[cosmic smelt]

Try it now if you want or just stick with DWM. I like how customizable. But hard to control

[flint nacelle]

Yes well, MFE doesn't have option for Gaussian Blur. .

[cosmic smelt]

YA

[cosmic smelt]

Hey btw

Do you have no gap in nebula??

[strong cedar]

yea, its a different version tough which i found and edited like 3-4 months ago

[cosmic smelt]

Oh

[strong cedar]

broke many times

[cosmic smelt]

Check whether my mod works seemlessly with nebula?

if it did, tell the nebula community about it to use it or, take my code and put it your codebase

[strong cedar]

yea it does indeed

[strong cedar]

that was my plan lol

[cosmic smelt]

LOL

Thanks man

[strong cedar]

just waiting for a few bugs to get fixed

[cosmic smelt]

Almost done, I gotta add some in todo list

[strong cedar]

tabs on right also breaks the animation of topbar viewing in single toolbar

[cosmic smelt]

Oh ok I will look into it

[cosmic smelt]

Is there any other just to make sure that I added everything in the todo list

[strong cedar]

let me see

[cosmic smelt]

Oh I don't know what happened but the toolbar stuff is not fixed

I gotta work on that

[strong cedar]

need to use height: 38px instead of 34 for multi and collapsed toolbar

the urlbar stuff gets clipped

[cosmic smelt]

I thought the defautl is 34?

[strong cedar]

maybe only for single toolbar

not sure

[cosmic smelt]

I will look into it

[strong cedar]

also

nogaps breaks if you use multi toolbar and only sidebar hidden

same case for collapsed

also i guess disabling the tab shadow

this is the version i am using

  html[nebula-single-toolbar]:not(:has(tab-group[split-view-group] .tabbrowser-tab:is([selected="true"], [visuallyselected="true"]))) {

    #zen-appcontent-wrapper {
      position: relative;
    }

    #zen-appcontent-navbar-wrapper {
      position: absolute;
      width: 100% !important;
      height: 55px;
      backdrop-filter: var(--nebula-glass);
      background: var(--zen-main-browser-background) !important;
      border-bottom: 0px solid light-dark(
        rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2),
        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.1)
      );
    }

    #zen-tabbox-wrapper {
      margin: 0 !important;
    }

    .browserSidebarContainer {
      border-radius: 0.1px !important;
      box-shadow: none !important;
    }
  }```

[lilac rampart]

sigh

what am I reading

[flint nacelle]

Nebula's core

[lilac rampart]

please, PLEASE

stop using :has

on the root document

how many times do I have to say it

[flint nacelle]

@strong cedar Do it.

[lilac rampart]

also nebula-single-toolbar 💀

[strong cedar]

any suggestions on what else i can use

[lilac rampart]

bro, ask me

before you type yet another :has

[strong cedar]

suree

[lilac rampart]

go to discord -> zeneral

[flint nacelle]

Make a PR to make theme as you please. 🙂

[lilac rampart]

"cheffiy, im trying to do X and my solution was <ugly has solution>, any way I could do it better?"

and then I gladly answer

[lilac rampart]

no window sync then 🥀

[flint nacelle]

What??? I mean you just have to gib a minute using Find and Replace function to edit theme the way you like in terms of replacement of :has

[dim sage]

Cheff is so kind, what would the world be without him :3

Can u imagine

[flint nacelle]

no zen .

[cosmic smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-6770984209275368356

[hazy stag]

finally nebula is getting fixed

[buoyant zephyr]

If i manually downloaded it like that is there a way to revert that? i think its the reason it messes up with the extensions since its outdated?

[strong cedar]

if you mean deleting the manual installation then go to chrome folder and delete nebula folder from there

[strong cedar]

this shit took days

just to finalize this simple redesign

[gaunt oar]

@strong cedar That's what I'm talking about. It's as if the sidebar color isn't natural. The text box's background color looks much more accurate to me. Before, they were both the same.

[strong cedar]

OH

my bad

i was testing background colors i forgot to revert it for sidebar 😭

[hard inlet]

whoa new redesign yay

[flint nacelle]

Bro make Ctrl+Tab menu/panel more rounded

[strong cedar]

its already in nebula, i was just tinkering with it again

[strong cedar]

its exactly the same roundness as rest of the ui

[flint nacelle]

What? Maybe I'm on phone so I can't see how rounded it is, but to make sure, I'm talking about the edges of that panel

[strong cedar]

yea

[hard inlet]

ah yea

i remember when you did full redesign

[strong cedar]

that was sooo complicated 😭

[hard inlet]

frr

[bold escarp]

This looks really good!

[vague frost]

@strong cedarhttps://github.com/JustAdumbPrsn/Zen-Nebula/issues/130

Has there been any progress on this issue?

[vague frost]

Bro, u apply for the designer position in Zen's development team please. Then we won't have to worry about when Nebula will fail again.

[strong cedar]

well, since i dont have any supported gpu i am not quite sure but as far as i have researched into this from google and gpt, it seems like this is happening due to various backdrop-filters across the ui which essentially disables the vsr/hdr idk why, and the fix is to remove those backdrops

[strong cedar]

cheff would have to kill himself for that to happen

i guess the default ctrl tab panel is just what firefox has, with no attention paid to it for zen

[vague frost]

In that case, why don't we check the status of PIP? If PIP is enabled, then temporarily disable the backdrops. This way, at least when we use PIP to play videos, we can use VSR normally. This can serve as a temporary solution, as PIP can also be in full-screen mode, and I guess we should be able to capture its on/off status.

[strong cedar]

yeah that can maybe work

[strong cedar]

also i tried to make glance tabs look just slightly different, should i add it to next update

default zen

[vague frost]

reduced the size of glance tab, and enhanced the rounded corner effect? Look nice

[strong cedar]

well i didnt like the fact that it was touching the top and bottom of the zen window

so i added a bit of margin

[silent sedge]

why am I having this little gap after activating nogap mod in the nubulu settings

[buoyant zephyr]

why do i have this issue

[silent sedge]

r u using mica4everyone

[buoyant zephyr]

yeaa

is it causing it?

[silent sedge]

yhhh

[buoyant zephyr]

shi

are there any alternatives i cld use

dam i love the clean look tho 😭

[silent sedge]

u have too use another that is yhhh

[dire socket]

Is there a way to make new tabs default to the bonjourr homepage? The only way to actually see the clean bonjourr setup is to click on the extention currently.

[buoyant zephyr]

do u know the name of the alternative

[buoyant zephyr]

same issue 0:

[silent sedge]

dwmblur

[silent sedge]

check your settings

[dire socket]

both nebula settings as well as zen settings look to be in order. same for boujourr settings afaik

[silent sedge]

it's not the same here

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-lenny-leonard-listening-interested-attentive-gif-4574713

[strong cedar]

yeah will be fixed in next update dw

[strong cedar]

use dwmblurglass

[buoyant zephyr]

do u have the settings of it somewhere?

[strong cedar]

i can send you a screenshot of my dwmblurglass settings

[buoyant zephyr]

that'd be great thx

and also i noticed this

[silent sedge]

aiit

[buoyant zephyr]

it wld also lag like that when i switch tabs normally

[strong cedar]

actually

thats not really a bug

its the variables of nebula getting refreshed

[buoyant zephyr]

ouh

oke

[strong cedar]

it is a problem now because nebula allows editing the variables directly through preferences

which works weirdly ;

[dire socket]

has anyone experienced this before? if it matters im on linux mint.

[buoyant zephyr]

wait after i restarted my computer it says this

dyk why

[strong cedar]

go to config and install symbols

click the download button from there

[cosmic smelt]

Did you fix the box coming up when using mica?

[vague frost]

Has anyone else encountered the same bug as me? I still don't know how to reliably reproduce this issue.

[vague frost]

All that is needed is to prohibit Zen that replace the new tab. In this way, when you start the browser or create a new tab, it will automatically create a bonjourr homepage.

zen.urlbar.replace-newtab

[dire socket]

Its set to true already, or should it be false?

oh my that's it

[vague frost]

set false

[dire socket]

thank you!!!

[vague frost]

This is the reason why I dislike Zen for hiding some preferences.

[dire socket]

its worth it ❤️

[vague frost]

I have made a preference panel. If you're interested, you can take a look at it. lol@dire socket

https://github.com/Starry-AXQG/Preference-Panel-for-Zen

[lilac rampart]

looks good!

Firefox default is 26 I think though?

oh, it is 10 mb

[paper sky]

Yea I told u abt this weird behavior of Nebula when switching tabs.... It makes the essentials go vertical for a brief second. Looks like a bug @strong cedar

[strong cedar]

no because im very skeptical about applying blur 0.1px to every element lol

[strong cedar]

its not actually a bug, problem is that before v3.3, nebula didnt let users change its variables like roundness and stuff, but then i found a workaround which lets users change variables directly in nebula's settings, and the thing is the way they are stored, i think sine refreshes them when the DOM changes, causing those variables to not have any value for a split second

@coarse sail using vars like this does work but it has the flicker issue which i mentioned above, is there a fix for this? i suppose its sine which updates the value from config to the variables

[cosmic smelt]

Oh ok

[cosmic smelt]

It happens to arc2.0 too

[strong cedar]

BRO WTF HAPPENED TO MY SIDEBAR

i restarted just normally

[strong cedar]

same for me

;-;

restarting fixed it

[cosmic smelt]

What is going on I don't get it

[cosmic smelt]

Oh the tabs are down

[opal hornet]

happened to me too whenever i closed a tab

[coarse sail]

uhh, when switching between tabs that shouldn't happen but it definitely is something that will happen while you're changing the value of your string prefs (fixable).

[strong cedar]

but it also happens when for example you unload a tab, sometimes when loading or switching a tab

those are the ones which are annoying

[ember oasis]

Plz help

[strong cedar]

which os?

[ember oasis]

Windows 11

Newest zen version

[strong cedar]

using with sine?

[ember oasis]

Reinstalled couple of times with sine without having this issue fixed unfortunately

[strong cedar]

hmm

from the screenshot it looks like nebula is not even applying

[ember oasis]

Any idea how to fix it?

[strong cedar]

let me see

[strong cedar]

try pressing ctrl shift j

and scroll to the top

[midnight marsh]

yooo

long time no see

[dire socket]

hey that's awesome, thank you!

[shut oracle]

@strong cedar you remember my issue about the shifted url bar?, I turned off all my mods and its still happening so ig its something in my config

[shut oracle]

I reset my configs and set everything up and now its working great

[strong cedar]

wow

thats weird

did you find which config it was

[shut oracle]

no unfortunately, I wiped the user prefs from the profile folder

[strong cedar]

lmao

[shut oracle]

but it was not conflicting with any of my mods

[strong cedar]

well as long as there are no bugs, everything is alright

[shut oracle]

that is whats confusing me

[shut oracle]

genuine

if it works it works

[shut oracle]

btw, can we remove this gap?

between the sidebar and the bottom of the window

[strong cedar]

there should not be this much gap

are you using some compact mode mod

[shut oracle]

nop

these are all there is

[strong cedar]

not sure but try disabling 2nd one

[shut oracle]

to no effect

[strong cedar]

can you try on a different profile

[shut oracle]

aight

[shut oracle]

I guess somethings wrong with the configs AGAIN 😭 😭

[strong cedar]

crazy

[shut oracle]

also is it normal for the sidebar to "peek" (see the extreme right EDGE)

[strong cedar]

no