Nebula | A Minimal Theme for Zen

[strong cedar]

without any issues

[fading quartz]

idk 😭

[drifting mica]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[flint nacelle]

freedom incoming 🦅

[flint nacelle]

disable nogaps and try marginless option in compact mode.

[drifting mica]

you need some democracy ?

[fading quartz]

still has gaps

[flint nacelle]

No, we need autocracy /s

[drifting mica]

celibacy is what u need

[flint nacelle]

Nah, my d opposes your verdict.

[fading quartz]

yesterday i reseted my laptop and installed zen and sine and everything completely fresh and the no gaps wasnt working either

[flint nacelle]

In a new profile, try my theme.

[fading quartz]

whats your theme called

[flint nacelle]

Arc2.0

[drifting mica]

u will do arrange marriage ?

[flint nacelle]

If my girl never leaves me, then definitely not.

[drifting mica]

u ever met irl or just like mr green

[fading quartz]

yes it works with your theme!

[flint nacelle]

If you remember me mocking Green for being so in love with an online individual, then shouldn't it be clear that it isn't the same case for me?

[flint nacelle]

Then use my theme now.

[fading quartz]

lmao

[drifting mica]

how many years

ago

[flint nacelle]

Well if you are asking about when I mocked Green, it was 2-3 months ago.
If you are asking about duration of relationship, then it's 5 years.

[coarse sail]

Before that there was an issue.

[faint wave]

@strong cedar hey i installed 3.1 yesterday but js didnt work is it working now? i updated everything but cant find your js (ctrl shift j) and how to check if it got installed or not

[strong cedar]

@coarse sail will be more aware of the situation since i am completely lost what the issue is and what can fix it

[faint wave]

hahah ok xd

[wintry dragon]

my theme color is getting blacked out every time im launching zen

[flint nacelle]

Remove all theme colors.

[strong cedar]

uh

[wintry dragon]

nah im on win 10 so transparent dont work

[flint nacelle]

It works.

With DWMGlassBlur.

[wintry dragon]

last time i tried it didnt gotta look into it again

[flint nacelle]

There is a special config that makes it possible.

[wintry dragon]

how do i get that?

[flint nacelle]

First, get rid of any transparency related app (like MFE), then install DWMGlassBlur.

[wintry dragon]

then?

[flint nacelle]

Import this in config.

Also enable Windows 10 option.

[wintry dragon]

ok

then?

[flint nacelle]

Is it working now?

[wintry dragon]

no

it just got darker

[flint nacelle]

Hmm, you got Sine?

[wintry dragon]

yup

[flint nacelle]

Good, disable Nebula and install my theme.

Arc2.0 from Marketplace.

[wintry dragon]

ok

[flint nacelle]

Does it work now?

[wintry dragon]

no

[flint nacelle]

whut?

[wintry dragon]

ye T_T

[flint nacelle]

it worked for Zemini creator

mr Zemflow has Windows 10 as well.

[wintry dragon]

only the top of my windows explorer is transparent

[flint nacelle]

Can you check if your Theme color contrast is 0?

[wintry dragon]

lesssss fkn goooooooooooooooooo

its transparent

how do i not let dwm effect fileexplorer

[flint nacelle]

Well, that isn't possible; though you can make Explorer fully transparent.

[wintry dragon]

hmmm nw, thank you

[flint nacelle]

Also, only Arc2.0 and Zemini makes transparency possible on Windows 10. Other themes are Windows 11 exclusive.

[wintry dragon]

i see

[jagged shadow]

@lilac rampart Hi Cheff. I started working on zen folders and was wondering what the functionality should be in general? 😅 I've just never used Arc Browser and have no idea what they're supposed to be able to do. (i'm writing here cuz i'cant PM u)

[wintry dragon]

can i not have mac type close button cause i usally yeet my cursor at the top when closing

[flint nacelle]

I will try to find a way for it.

[wintry dragon]

cool

[twin pewter]

How many months was cheff working on folder 😂

[flint nacelle]

Go to sleep.

[austere shoal]

where can i find 3.1 patchnotes_

?

[strong cedar]

atp i dont even care since adv tab groups does most of the same thing

also why tf is zen clearing my tabs bro

[lilac rampart]

Omg omg omg

[lilac rampart]

Should we start a thread on #development ?

[jagged shadow]

If it's not visible to everyone, that's fine. cuz I don't want to see random msgs in a thread like your PR

[lilac rampart]

Dw about that

I'll make it you and me

[drifting mica]

private threads eww

[paper iris]

is there any work around for this? not letting the background of the sidebar be completely transparent?

[strong cedar]

for some reason sine is not downloading the Nebula.uc.js file which should be inside the JS folder

[dim sage]

@strong cedar sorry for the ping but I think the padding on my nebula is... not right? how do I fix this?

[dim sage]

Yo nevermind, I figured it out. Adding margin-bottom: 5px seems fixed it.

nice update btw

[austere shoal]

Hi just updated to 3.1.
I have 2 questions.
What happened to the nebula-sidebar-with setting in the nebula-config.css? I dont really care atm because it looks like my old width, but normally i always changed it from 20 to 16.

The nebula-compact-mode-no-sidebar-bg about:config options doesnt work anymore. Its also not mentioned in the config.css anymore. But in the Readme theres still a screenshot with it. I really liked that option and if its still there I would highly appreciate that :D.

[hard inlet]

will this be fixed?

floating top toolbar is also broken in compact mode

[dire jay]

can you share the file so that we can manualy in the folder

I have manualy put the file in the location from the github and it has done nothing for the transparent sidebar in compact mode

[scenic wolf]

i can't install sine in fedora

i install zen by flathub

anyone can guide me to setup sine

[strong cedar]

mine works idk

[strong cedar]

youcan just download it from github

[strong cedar]

huhh

@coarse sail um what is the solution to this

[paper iris]

it does have it there though?

it just still doesn't work despite that

[paper iris]

and for some odd reason

nebula break zen beta rn (same doesn't happen with twilight)

[strong cedar]

no

it works for me

[paper iris]

odd

[strong cedar]

try replacing your chrome folder with this @paper iris

also

btw

before that

i think you guys still cant get it to work

even after installing the file

because

you need to clear startup cache

by going to about:support

and clearing startup cache from there

[paper iris]

it works thank you

btw

[strong cedar]

mhm

[strong cedar]

??

[paper iris]

I might be schizo I don't know or remember why I wrote that 💀

[strong cedar]

lmaoo

[strong cedar]

the nebula sidebar width is not needed after js

[strong cedar]

sorry i forgot to remove that
its not an option now since js handles that background

[strong cedar]

@coarse sail knows if it would be fixed or what

[paper iris]

is it possible to disable the transparency of the main window and just keep the transparency of the sidebar?

[strong cedar]

wdym

[paper iris]

I figured it out but I meant how the main windows would be transparent as in show the window behind and if their is no window behind it then the desktop. I wanted it to be a solid color instead and I just wanted the sidebar to be transparent to the tab.

(I just desabled mica in about:config)

though what I haven't figured out is. I use a custom color for the theme of zen which is #000000 but it doesn't apply unless I move the slider every single time I launch zen

so that's weird

but this is prob not the channel for it

[lyric lintel]

shit how did ur parents even allow discord

[drifting mica]

wait untill u know theres people which are in 9th here

https://tenor.com/view/puff-puff-diddy-puff-daddy-baby-oil-diddy-riding-gif-3504750689777027715

[lyric lintel]

sheeesh

[cold needle]

@strong cedar did you fix the extensions CSS since Zen broke it in the previous' previous update?

it works fine for already placed extensions but I cannot put new ones in that area anymore

[upbeat dragon]

Does anyone know how to fix the Tab gradient color to match the workspace, for me, its stuck to green for some reason;
I did install Nebula from Sine mods 🤔

[coarse sail]

@strong cedar that uc.js file thing should be fixed now that you have added the js to the marketplace. Also, none of the Nebula issues are gonna be fixed.

[strong cedar]

i think you have asked me this questions 6-7 times now 😂

and yea i fixied it in 1.12.x something as much as i remember

[strong cedar]

which nebula issues

as much as i saw, the js was not working/installed for most people

[strong cedar]

this is because those tabs are in "containers"

each container has different color like yellow blue green purple

[cold needle]

yea and everytime i procrastinate lmaoo

also

does it have theold UI?

the fixed code?

this one?

[upbeat dragon]

Ah, I see now, I do notice the difference now, but they don't follow the color of the container I set, in this case most should be orange? Are they set by a different Setting?

[coarse sail]

someone mentioned the compact mode toolbar transparnet thing or smth

[strong cedar]

that was due to js because js handles the backgrounds and stuff

without the js the sidebar seems transparent always

[coarse sail]

what about the spacing between essentials and pinned extensions? its off without the js?

[strong cedar]

wtff

[strong cedar]

no idk why they had that issue

since

mine is normal

without any fixes

[cold needle]

oh ur UI is for light mode isnt it?

how do I make it white?

like my one?

[upbeat dragon]

Okay, I just tested, everything works fine except for that one container that doesn't want to change color for some reason, apologies 😅

[strong cedar]

just change its rgba to something like 255 255 255 0.1

[strong cedar]

woww

[cold needle]

ohh alr

[upbeat dragon]

I'll move things around probably.

[cold needle]

i installed nebula's pinned extension but nothing appears

do I need to change some configs?

[strong cedar]

yea

just remove the top @media pref

and remove its bottom } too

line 3 and 195

[cold needle]

is this good?

also it still doesn't work lol

[drifting mica]

bottom spacing is uneveen

[strong cedar]

its slightly uneven but idk thats how it always was for me

[strong cedar]

weird idk

oh

probably because

of the var(--nebula stuff

[sage hare]

how can i get rid of the transparency? dont want it at all
not tryna look at my other windows through the browser..

[strong cedar]

just dont use mica4everyone...

or other apps which makes zen have transparency

[scenic fog]

nebula just isnt applied with sine

[sage hare]

im not, its still semi transparent anyway.. no clue why my tab bar is bright white, never set it like that

[coarse sail]

press ctrl+shift+j, what does it say?

[scenic fog]

na i fixed it

it was sine

an older version of it

that isnt compatible with the current it seems

[coarse sail]

oh,odd. i assume pre-v2?

[scenic fog]

yeah

had to delete some files and folders manually

[coarse sail]

ah, ok. pre-v2 versions just need the auto-installer for v2 used and it will work again.

[scenic fog]

na

ive done that

but it failed to delete some files in my chrome folder of the profile

that i deleted manually and then started the v2 installer

i dont know if its related but the auto updater of zen wasnt working either at first

i was blocked on 1.13.B

[coarse sail]

same happened to me, but i don't think it was a Sine issue.
Do you know what files it failed to delete?

[scenic fog]

if my memory is good it wasnt finding a file in my chrome folder (so failed to delete it)

i deleted everthing related to sine in

[coarse sail]

What's with the padding on the Zen buttons now?

[coarse sail]

oh, idk then.

[lilac rampart]

yo guys

what y'all think of https://cheff.dev/?blog=02

id like to hear some thoughts

[scenic fog]

its great. I personally love the browser

The issue i could say is performance related. Sometimes there is page that lag just to much and i have to use a chromium browser

it matter most than design IMO

Also as a dev, firefox is lacking compared to chromium for newest features

[lilac rampart]

yeah

cant do much about it unfortunately

[scenic fog]

for example: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/animation-timeline/scroll

[lilac rampart]

chrome also lacks firefox features

every engine is good at it's own things

that's fine

[jagged shadow]

cheff now blogger

[scenic fog]

idk most of my time like i would say 80% its firefox

[lilac rampart]

yeah but because google doesnt give a fuck about standards kek

they do whatever they want

and then say "copy us or stay outdated"

[scenic fog]

lol

But for performance it the responsability of firefox or the zen time idk but its a serious matter. Having to change of browser to a certain page is anoying as fuck and give a serious good point for brave for example

the point for zen for me is UI/UX configurable that i find amazing

and its not just it lags a bit Zen freeze and drop at like 5 fps

[sinful aurora]

oh i forgot to mention also transparency in any system popups is totally broken and its unreadable

compact sidebar is also invisible

is my zen profile broken or is just about every sine theme currently broken on the new zen versions for mac users

[lilac rampart]

long time I didnt try floorp, it's tripping

[lilac rampart]

@strong cedar how does nebula need to be updated? Not saying it doesn't need to, just I want to know, purely informative

So I can break less things in the future

Because from what I'm seeing it just changes colours?

[cerulean rapids]

i don't use Sine and i'm also having this totally transparent sidebar bug. Everything else is working fine for me.

[hard inlet]

same here, I was having that issue with sine so I then installed nebula 3.1 from github and still having that issue

top toolbar is also not floating anymore, it was doing that before the sidebar broke

[jagged shadow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/diabrowser/s/BFqb5f5uua

it's very similar to the idea of drop link to split..... and I'm thinking of yoinking it

[hard inlet]

woww that looks way smoother than the entire page taking its place on the left/right before u actually go ahead and split it

[drifting mica]

sue them daddy

https://tenor.com/view/seal-scheming-muehehe-silly-seals-gif-16856417787436225963

[wicked bramble]

Smexy release lesgo

[wicked bramble]

Yours is better tho

Small container but does the job

:3

[strong cedar]

skill issue lmao
idk why all this random shit happening

[strong cedar]

thats how default zen is, you need to go to about:config and turn off a config which sets the mica value

[strong cedar]

does your nebula has the nebula.uc.js file

[strong cedar]

on the surface yea it just adds background-color, box-shadow, translate, stuff to ui elements
but it has weird shit changing a lot of the stuff, like adding weird animations, pseudo backgrounds and stuff
also is there any workaround to get light-dark properly working?

[drifting mica]

finally containers icons alligned

[cold needle]

so I just remove that part?

[strong cedar]

no change those to some other values

[lyric lintel]

actually same issue

did u find a fix?

[drifting mica]

    will-change: transform;
}

[unkempt night]

any ideas why the restart button is not interactable?

[austere shoal]

Can I make the compact sidebar more blurry? cant see anything in 3.1.1

And nogaps isnt working

[coarse sail]

Click it twice.

[sage hare]

yep! worked for that area there! any way to do the same for the toolbar?
also, i think its a zen bug, but my theme colors wont apply unless i go into the menu and move the slider a little bit, know anything about that?

[woeful glade]

Does anyone know how to switch back to the previous update of Nebula's tab folder containers?

[toxic briar]

so I just updated to sine 2.1.2 but sine does not show up in settings, shows zen mods and there are no mods listed.

[coarse sail]

reinstall via the auto-installer. there was an updating issue that is fixed now. Also, to keep up-to-date, you might want to consider joining the Discord server for Sine linked in Sine's quick links section on the repo.

[bronze horizon]

bruh

@strong cedar nebula broke for me

also

@coarse sail i pressed remove mod and its not removing?

[coarse sail]

yeah yeah. nebula js issue known. remove it manually and reinstall will work. this issue will be fixed in a new Sine update soon.

[bronze horizon]

wdym remove it manually

in the chrome file?

[coarse sail]

shoot. I need a reference guide for this stuff. Go to mods.json in sine-mods folder in chrome folder and remove the Nebula property.

[bronze horizon]

okok

[bronze horizon]

only delte nebula folder? 🫠

[coarse sail]

no, just edit mods.json and reinstall.

[strong cedar]

not sure

[bronze horizon]

ok delted

how to reinstal

[strong cedar]

wdym

[bronze horizon]

like transparency is not working

[strong cedar]

nebula does not add transparency

read the readme 😭

bro

[bronze horizon]

bro

i added nebula like when it started 😭

i have mica

[coarse sail]

delete those colors by pressing minus. new version applies styles slightly even if contrast is 0.

[strong cedar]

oh

then

share a screenshot

[strong cedar]

nebula is just not working itself

[bronze horizon]

wait

let me reinstall

why is it version 3.0.3

i thought it was 3.1

[strong cedar]

idk marketplace shows v3.0.3 but it is v3.1.1

when u download it will show correct version

@coarse sail why is this so

[bronze horizon]

okok

[coarse sail]

okay, looks like the workflow could be broken. give me a sec.

[bronze horizon]

yay its working now

bruh i cant click the restart button

can i just close and reopen?

[strong cedar]

go to about:support and clear cache
the button should work tough

[bronze horizon]

this?

[strong cedar]

yea

[bronze horizon]

okok

[lilac rampart]

"show accent color on window titlebar" is enabled

[coarse sail]

yeah.

close will work though too.

[coarse sail]

SHOOT. Did you add @ignorecache to the top of your userscript?

[strong cedar]

did i?

idts

[strong cedar]

nop

[lilac rampart]

nice

[coarse sail]

ADD IT. otherwise users can't update the script without clearing startup cache.

but I'll make the restart button clear startup cache too so it works slightly better.

[strong cedar]

oh

btw

@coarse sail what the fuck

why is my sine

working

but

not showing

but i didnt mess with sine at all

and plus i am able to use the marketplace version of nebula which i have

[coarse sail]

okay, reinstall via teh auto-installer. The issue is that there was a flaw in the engine stuff. I thought I pinged everyone that had v2.1.2 to update.

[strong cedar]

ohh

cant i use manual install process

the installer just doesnt work on my pc

[coarse sail]

You can, but why does it not work?

[faint violet]

That taskbar is a crime

[coarse sail]

didn't see it until now. don't think I can unsee.

[bronze horizon]

😭 what did i do

[faint wave]

@strong cedar bro your js scripts are working but this thng is not transparent with blur its black and the rgb is not glowing

[strong cedar]

admin

[faint wave]

damnn sine deleted that search blur mod i used

[faint wave]

should i reinstall nebula?

[coarse sail]

just run as admin and it works, right?

[strong cedar]

no

@flint nacelle tell him

[coarse sail]

reinstall, it will work.

[faint wave]

ok ill try

[coarse sail]

me?

[strong cedar]

ya

[lyric lintel]

so ignored this for a while but any idea why the Downloads Fileexplorer popup is fked?

happened when i switched to nubulu

[coarse sail]

I'm starting a new chat application that works via GitHub and I'll call it Rizzogram.

[long hawk]

danggg

[dawn lodge]

what did u do to fix it?

mine isnt working either

[faint violet]

Once again, the taskbar is a crime

😭

[lyric lintel]

what why

[drifting mica]

real crime

[thorn timber]

why its keep showing this even after restart many times

[coarse sail]

should be fixed now.

are you on Cosine?

[coarse sail]

okay buddy, this one is fine.

[whole hollow]

@strong cedar still not fixed

[thorn timber]

cosine and this happen

[coarse sail]

oh, that's why then. idk about the marketplace though. press ctrl+shift+j

what does it say?

[coarse sail]

anything from sine

[faint violet]

Personally im not a fan of the entire detached look of the taskbar especially if your not going to then do something about the ui elements on the bottom right

[faint violet]

In tim took we trust

[lyric lintel]

im too lazy

[faint violet]

How tf did you get the weather in there?

[faint violet]

[deft cave]

why do you have 2 nebula? try to remove Nebula (v1.0.0)
maybe the problem is here

[whole hollow]

nope its not , it was there a long ago

have a bug can't delete mods

there is a bug in last nebula update

problem *

all users have it

[deft cave]

i had too, i downloaded nebula.uc.js from the github, put in zen browser and no issue for me.
i'm on the latest sine and nebula

[wet basalt]

this does not work on win10 right?

[coarse sail]

debugging is coming in the next version.

[dim sage]

dude why is this keeps popping up? I've restarted zen 4 times and this still pops up....

[dim sage]

yuh nevermind, a simple reinstall from the sine installer fixed this

[coarse sail]

man, very odd. I know v2.1.2 caused an issue so that could be why.

[brisk pike]

Guys, what do you think of these buttons? Would they look good on Nebula? I really like using them (they're from another theme, but I can't remember which one)

[burnt elbow]

how to fix?

[drifting mica]

ask in sine server

[burnt elbow]

where can i find that?

[drifting mica]

i have sended the link for it

[burnt elbow]

ty bro!

[flint nacelle]

What am I supposed to tell?

[drifting mica]

test out arcline

[flint nacelle]

Did it last night. Works all good. Forgot to do it on Twilight. Rn at work, so will do it tonight after returning.

[faint chasm]

I can not install nebula theme or zemini from sine and the nebula version there is 3.0.3 not 3.1

[strong cedar]

it is due to mica4everyone

[strong cedar]

clear cache

[whole hollow]

how ?

[fickle helm]

in about:support

[whole hollow]

didn't fix it

[strong cedar]

download nebula uc js file

[lyric lintel]

Indeed was the Blue Behind option

ty <3

@strong cedar any idea bout this?

[strong cedar]

does your js folder have something like nebula_nebula.uc.js

[lyric lintel]

my js folder actually has to nebula files at all

[strong cedar]

then download that file

[lyric lintel]

cools fixed

[faint chasm]

Why Sine did not install nebula

[ivory plinth]

amogus

[drifting mica]

in latest twilight zen did something to icons ? they are messed up again for me

[ivory plinth]

i forgot he has vencord

[twin pewter]

@drifting mica

I think it's restoring

nvm

[knotty solar]

I have this everytime I restart my browser
Any idea why?

[ivory plinth]

oh yeh i remember it now

i also had this but i download the new version of sine and it got removed

[red rover]

can I have it too

[ivory plinth]

sent*

[knotty solar]

I restarted x1000 it seems ok now

[feral comet]

hey, i have had the same problem, tried clearing cache, already have the js file
i am on the flatpak version of zen with nebula manually installed

[coarse sail]

turn off custom marketplace.

[latent pagoda]

@strong cedar For last few weeks I've had this problem with the corners of the popout-player being black and non-rounded. Any fix?

[ivory plinth]

justasmartprsn.exe isn't respoding

[latent pagoda]

Found a fix

[strong cedar]

what is the fix

tell me quick

this is something shit which happens in default zen too i cant fix it

[latent pagoda]

Added to BetterPiP

[ivory plinth]

justasmartprson.exe has started working

[strong cedar]

bro casually fixed the longest running nebula issue

ggs

[lilac rampart]

Didn't know moz doc could be run inside blocks

[latent pagoda]

Lotta !importants though. Has to be some other way to fix, but guess this is working for now

[latent pagoda]

Btw works without body background: black !important as well:

/* Always round all PiP content and backgrounds */
@media not -moz-pref("nebula.pip.disabled") {
  @-moz-document url("chrome://global/content/pictureinpicture/player.xhtml") {
    html, .player-holder {
      border-radius: 9px !important;
      overflow: hidden !important;
    }
    .player-holder {
      clip-path: none !important;
    }
  }
}

[somber nymph]

how do I fix this, earlier it was expanded

[ivory plinth]

justasmartprsn make your own discord server

nvm sine has nebula channel

[latent pagoda]

Yurrrrrr....... 👀

[worldly quarry]

@strong cedar bro its driving me crazy

The blur while pages are loading

Is KILLING me

Do you have a setting to disable it?

[red rover]

did u install it via sine?

if you did go to the settings for nebula and set the tab loading animation to no animation

[ivory plinth]

job

[drifting mica]

bro how you even get to this stage

[twin pewter]

Idk

I just reinstalled win 11 tho

[drifting mica]

win vista

[summer juniper]

This is what happens after following the steps from the github page

[ivory plinth]

mmnbgtuio

[coarse sail]

hey, how do I set up the flatpak install of Zen with Sine?

[coarse sail]

are you on win10?

[rustic wagon]

guys these are pinned tabs using superpins but the last update the pinned tab group dont have same width of the url bar anymore , any solution for that maybe using css ?

[strong cedar]

bro just disable it in configs 😭

[strong cedar]

use mica4everyone bro without battery saver/eco mode etcc

[strong cedar]

idk how you are getting this issue, if you know how to replicate it then sure ill try to fix it
i cant have this issue on my pc idk why

[worldly quarry]

Destroy the sandbox, then use the paths i put in ur gh issues

[coarse sail]

well, I did everything, but it said failed to read configuration file.

To destroy the sandbox, however, I used a config in firefox that said disable-sandbox or smth like that.

or enable-sandbox and i set it to false, idk.

[worldly quarry]

Not that

[coarse sail]

do you know the commands to destroy the sandbox then?

[worldly quarry]

flatpak run --unshare=none <app-id>

Idr the app-id

[coarse sail]

oh, just the --unshare=none does the trick?

[worldly quarry]

That runs it w no sandboxinv

[coarse sail]

oh, ok.

[worldly quarry]

I did

It says i have no animation there

Yet I FUCKING SEE IT 😭

[coarse sail]

Anoms wants me to spread this link around.
https://form.typeform.com/to/lcILyyAr

[summer juniper]

whats that?

[summer juniper]

11

[astral cypress]

https://github.com/MicaForEveryone/MicaForEveryone

It adds blur to transparent windows on W11. You need to download this and create a new entry for Zen.

[summer juniper]

how do you install it?

@astral cypress

[astral cypress]

go here: https://github.com/MicaForEveryone/MicaForEveryone/releases

download and run this

[summer juniper]

@astral cypress after that how do i create a new entry for zen

[astral cypress]

open it, in the bottom left there's a plus button

for process name just put: zen

set material type to mica

there's one other setting but i'm forgetting the name atm, can you send a ss of them?

[astral cypress]

enable blur behind

[summer juniper]

then i restart?

[summer juniper]

still looks like this

[astral cypress]

about:config set browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser to true?

[summer juniper]

yes

[astral cypress]

try going to about:support and click Clear Startup Cache. This should restart the browser. Sometimes it helps refresh things.

I'm not totally sure why the nebula transparency isn't being applied. Which method did you use to install Nebula?

[summer juniper]

sine

[summer juniper]

clearing cache didnt work

[astral cypress]

Could you try making a fresh profile in zen, then install Sine to the new profile, and then install nebula?

Doing all that on a fresh profile will help eliminate any strange configuration issues that might be preventing the transparency from applying.

[summer juniper]

ight

now it looks like this

no grainyness but still not transparent

@astral cypress

[astral cypress]

there's some more suggestions for getting transparency to work here: https://github.com/JustAdumbPrsn/Zen-Nebula?tab=readme-ov-file#3-install-mica-for-everyone-only-for-windows-11-users

😍 I didn't realize pf was mentioned in the credits 💜 much appreciated

[ivory plinth]

pineapple fried pizza

[astral cypress]

fun fact, the name Pineapple Fried came from my love of puns and I preemptively named my mod PF in anticipation for the (now killed) Zen Rices feature. Rices were going to be a 1-click solution for sharing your entire Zen setup, the theme, css, mods, toolbar layout, etc.

The idea was to turn the theme into a Rice, so users would be using Pineapple Fried Rice

[strong cedar]

wtff

[strong cedar]

always, i always liked pf since i started using zen

@coarse sail for some reason the sine version of the nebula js is not working on my pc too
but my original js works

even tough its the same

only the difference is the name of sine js is Nebula_Nebula.uc.js idk why and the name of my original js is Nebula.uc.js

[strong cedar]

[ivory plinth]

sussy number

[coarse sail]

It adds the id at the beginning to prevent overwriting.

Ill test on mine.

[worldly quarry]

@drifting mica

What's arcline?

[drifting mica]

theme

[worldly quarry]

Fr 😭

[worldly quarry]

Where do I find it? I don't see it in showcase forum.

[ivory plinth]

arc with line

[drifting mica]

https://github.com/ferrocyante/Arcline

install thru sine

[red rover]

any1 sine server link?

[ivory plinth]

chat lets ask cheff to give sine link in annoucements

(ik he wont do lol)

[pseudo silo]

We can at least have it pinned in here

[strong cedar]

the sine link is present in the installation process of nebula

[ivory plinth]

if green was here if he would idk about others

tho i dont thinks its allowed here lol

[jagged shadow]

@lilac rampart In general, this is what I want to see in drop to split. What do you think? Especially the visual, what should I add or remove?

[lilac rampart]

Looks really insanely good!

[coarse sail]

In the credits of the readme in the Sine repo, https://github.com/CosmoCreeper/Sine

[jagged shadow]

@coarse sail What didn't you like?

[coarse sail]

No idk. I understand its the style of Zen, but it seems a bit showy? If you know what i mean? Idk. Maybe its just the fact it floats around?

[jagged shadow]

Ok, I'll play with the radius and speed of the window

[timid jasper]

Missing the magnetic aspect

[jagged shadow]

oh

[jagged shadow]

What do you mean by that?

[timid jasper]

Havnt you seen the new update?

[jagged shadow]

I've only seen your video on reddit

And I felt like the windows were just moving clockwise

KEK

I don't think this effect will fit here

but it looks funny

[timid jasper]

Yea that's old now

https://www.reddit.com/r/diabrowser/s/rujGq94TJw

[timid jasper]

Oh I doubt it will, because there's only one of them

[strong cedar]

would like to see it in zen
maybe for toolbar customization also

[twin pewter]

working on this and folders damn

live folders too

[south egret]

Is there any plans to support good looking control buttons exit, minimize, maximize by default within the app? Like the ones in Arc theme or NeoTheme

[strong cedar]

you can just use the minimal control buttons mod thing to make it like macos

but i dont style them since everyone have different opinions on it

only thing i have did to them is make the background on hover have a 0.2 fade in effect

[jagged shadow]

when you check the number of tabs zen-empty-tab turns out to be a trap

[drifting mica]

lol see how bxtheda tab sorting script calculate it i thinks its not ai written

[jagged shadow]

nah, It's just a simple attribute check. who's bxtheda?

[errant lagoon]

Me lol but my tab sort is based on Ardo's one, just changed the design

[worldly quarry]

Who are bxtheda and ardo

[jagged shadow]

bxtheda author of the cool bubble delete mod

[errant lagoon]

Yep that's me

[lilac rampart]

you should remove the working tab after each test

[jagged shadow]

yea
now my problem is

[lilac rampart]

but dont remove the one already created

like

bro just show me the test

ok

I would divide them into separate files

let's move to https://discord.com/channels/1088172780480114748/1391485819654635661 so we dont annoy people here

[jagged shadow]

They're separated

[drifting mica]

now will people will annoy you

[twin pewter]

@drifting mica you build zen yet?

[drifting mica]

next year definitely

[jagged shadow]

When

Media

[lilac rampart]

when

media control unit tests

[keen wagon]

hey how can i have seperate set of essentials on different spaces??

[final mesa]

back from vacation

goooooooooooooood

[twin pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-14317670277085954258

[ivory plinth]

a

[latent pagoda]

You can have different pinned tabs, but dont know about essentials :/

But if you use superpins, you can make the pinned tabs look like essentials

[dire timber]

i wish we had glance on link drag

LMB + link drag = glance
RMB + link drag = split

[jagged shadow]

drop center = glance

[dire timber]

i'd refrain from using positioning in context of glance

its always overlay

when you want to actually do a quick glance of site behind the link, you shouldn't be looking for some popup to target it

it's one of basic rules of UX/UI, less actions required to achieve certain thing the better :P

[jagged shadow]

There's a hotkey for that

[dire timber]

hotkey requires both hands

one on mouse one on keyboard

[jagged shadow]

Rmb is responsible for the context menu and it will be strange that the user will get a drop zone instead of it

[dire timber]

then vice versa

or MMB

or just allow user to choose

[jagged shadow]

I originally didn't plan to add glance at all because there is a hold option for that so alas

[dire timber]

my argument about requiring both hands still pretty valid honestly

you could be doing anything with other hand, eating, drinking, smoking/vaping, fapping or w/e

[jagged shadow]

that's why I decided to make a drop link to split because I'm tired of pressing the keyboard shortcut. And you can already enable hold for glance
about:config zen.glance.activation-method set mantain

but it's a little buggy

It activates mouse drag enter event that needs to be processed. If you know JS you can do PR

[dire timber]

sadly i don't

[dire timber]

hold isn't as efficient as drag, takes time

thats why i'm arguing for ultilizing both buttons, one for glance one for split

[coarse sail]

you can use container-specific essentials which has to be enabled in the settings. Once you enable that, you will have to set your workspaces to correspond to different containers. Then, you will have to make your essentials have specific containers, and then they will appear in the matching workspace.

(take note that new tabs in that workspace will be created with the container of that workspace.)

[latent pagoda]

Aka have to log in to everything on every container 🥲

If there isn't some setting for that too?

[coarse sail]

you're logged in using whatever you were logged in with before. no change.

it's basically just a label for sine.

my mind is deteriorating.

label for tabs*

[latent pagoda]

Oh. Last time I used a container I had to login to youtube etc. in the container

._.

[coarse sail]

sounds like you prob extracted a zip bomb that deletes all your browsing data ig.

[lunar cape]

is there a way to disable the translucency in stuff like the print dialog? it looks ugly

[coarse sail]

not intentional. there is some sort of issue with it.

@strong cedar found it. This is the issue:

var(--in-content-page-background);

your styles are turning this to transparent, resulting in the issue.

[lunar cape]

How fix

[latent pagoda]

I was still logged in outide the containers, but not in them

[latent pagoda]

I see the same in the popup for sine updates

0% opacity bacground

[coarse sail]

wait for jadp to fix it, should be easy enough.

[lunar cape]

Ok

[tulip quiver]

no gaps didnt work?

[strong cedar]

hmm i just copied it from transparent zen

[strong cedar]

😭 wtf

[frank sonnet]

how do i prevent this? sidebar completly invisible

help

[lunar cape]

yeah some websites are completely unusable with ts

[lunar cape]

yeah it breaks a lot of websites too

like that

wait thats the fault of dwmblurglass

[ivory plinth]

qhhahahahha my eyes]

[lunar cape]

it pmo

[lunar cape]

wtf now it works but the new tab page is ugle

its fin

ohhhh

aha

i found it

its the flag browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser

i think that website is just poorly made

perhaps there can be a flag to only allow transparency on zen-specific pages like the about:config or about:settings pages

[strong cedar]

bro idk, sine is for some reason not installing js for few

[strong cedar]

no thats just because of the browser transparent config, turn that off

[lunar cape]

yeah

i figured

but the new tab page is no longer transparent

[ivory plinth]

hi

[frank sonnet]

Nah i actually copy paste directly from github

[flint nacelle]

Eh, you just need dark reader addon enabled.

No need to turn off transparency flag.

[coarse sail]

Without Nebula js, it causes that issue. Reinstall it.

[coarse sail]

Only because it started with unsafe js. They prob just need to reinstall it.

[wintry dragon]

yoo sine mods is suddenly not showing up in the settings, the theme is still working but i cant edit anything now

[hard inlet]

ever since latest zen update the workspace icons are broken they're so close to each other

and invisible sidebar issue still there, im not using through sine

[coarse sail]

reinstall via the auto-installer. If you're on Windows, there is a read-only issue resulting in update failure and you need to reinstall in order to get the patch.

[bronze horizon]

i did it’s still no there 🙏

[coarse sail]

what are the logs? Ctrl+Shift+J. Look for errors regarding Sine.

[coarse sail]

how long ago did you reinstall via the auto-installer?

[bronze horizon]

like 2 minutes

auto installer is the thing on the releases page right

wher did bro go 😭

[strong cedar]

hi

[strong cedar]

yeah ig

[strong cedar]

i was able to fix it, will update in a while

[dim sage]

yay new update

[bronze horizon]

i’m js gonna use it on a new profile

[coarse sail]

yes

reply to me, otherwise I don't get a ping.

[bronze horizon]

ok mb

[bronze horizon]

i just used a new profile

it’s working fine

just transferring stuff 😢

[ivory plinth]

nubula got famous

see

[coarse sail]

liiiiar

[ivory plinth]

hey its real

nubula and sine and arcline and arc 2.0 got famous

[coarse sail]

oh, you're right, I should have never doubted you.

[ivory plinth]

fr fr

i am such a great advertiser

[lilac rampart]

nebululu

[coarse sail]

it's also kind of shocking considering the username of that guy is a bunch of greek letters.
ΩΠμ

[lilac rampart]

I always find it funny

[ivory plinth]

yup

[ivory plinth]

[drifting mica]

omg omega pi mew

[ivory plinth]

yeh

[drifting mica]

🥵

[drifting mica]

u r so sigma

[ivory plinth]

fr

[drifting mica]

mgoy

[ivory plinth]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uEB6TpjgJdE?si=Why6GQo8KWWKM-li check the comment lol

this emoji we need

[drifting mica]

i dont see it

[ivory plinth]

f

skill issue

scrol down

[frank sonnet]

theres is nebula js tho so i dont really understand why its like that

[coarse sail]

in your JS folder?

[frank sonnet]

Yes

[ivory plinth]

[ivory plinth]

[drifting mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-sleepy-cat-eepy-eepy-cat-gif-8017019779793235428

[lunar cape]

Ca4

Car

[ivory plinth]

i thought i time traveled

[nocturne whale]

lol

?

[drifting mica]

why u think he is not here

[coarse sail]

[coarse sail]

no @12th or @anoms

[drifting mica]

they are different

[lunar cape]

that fixed it tanks

[twin pewter]

The Chinese guy is anoms

[jagged shadow]

🕵🏻‍♂️

[flint nacelle]

Tanks?

[cold needle]

@strong cedar what happened to the workspace changer

after yesterday's update

[lyric lintel]

they are wishing u some tanks in ur life

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-spin-tank-gif-4023090852990224147

[hard inlet]

awesome thanks

[ivory plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-tank-kpz-70-mbt-70-war-thunder-gif-13322009097111941772

[woven trench]

does this happen to anybody?

New tabs open in pinned tabs area. Not in normal tabs area.

[drifting mica]

whats up with this 4k vedio quality

btw this is not pinned tabs section

you havent pinned any tab in fact

try dragging the tab on workspace name

to pin it

[jagged shadow]

cuz pinned groups unsupported

[opal rune]

hey

does nebula work on firefox ?

or only zen

[flint nacelle]

It kind off works on ff.

[opal rune]

almost ?

[flint nacelle]

Use Sine to try it.

[opal rune]

I am it's js since it wasn't in the marketplace I thought maybe it wasn't compatible yet

[flint nacelle]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/wwv8w6pjkal006no09vv4/firefox_f3A5uGasiU.mp4?rlkey=rkxi0jzdszue42md1k3kfwd12&dl=0

JS isn't compatible.

But few CSS are.

[opal rune]

thanks appriciate it

[jagged shadow]

kek

[lilac rampart]

BRO STOP LEAKING

[dire jay]

for some reason sine mods has disapeared from my settings the mods are still active though?

[ivory plinth]

numbers are indicating somthing?

[jagged shadow]

yes, the number of months left until release

[ivory plinth]

aww

we reviving TFF then

[coarse sail]

Reinstall via the auto-installer. There was an issue that was patched, but the issue broke auto-updating for those who had the issue.

[midnight marsh]

@strong cedar your new pinned extensions css isn't working

[flint nacelle]

twilight?

[midnight marsh]

no on beta

[flint nacelle]

Works for me.

How did you set it up?

[midnight marsh]

from css

i took the css from github

[flint nacelle]

What?

Didn't you just get Sine!

[midnight marsh]

i got sine, but i dont use nebula as a whole

i use some parts of it

[wild leaf]

How to make side bar less transparent? Sometimes is just unusable

[flint nacelle]

Install Transparent Zen mod.

[coarse sail]

Reinstall Nebula

[wild leaf]

Now it's just black, is it possible to make it like half transparent? I don't use MicaForEveryone, but I use Zen Internet extension and websites are transparent. Tried to install Transparent Zen mod, didn't help

[coarse sail]

Idk if nebula allows that @strong cedar

[flint nacelle]

There is a config in Transparent Zen mod.

Enable Custom color for Zen

Enable it.

And set it to rgba(25,25,25,0.5)

@wild leaf This helped me.

[wild leaf]

Like this? Still just black

[flint nacelle]

You use Sine?

[wild leaf]

Nope, just downloaded the latest code (3.1.1) from github, not from release

[flint nacelle]

That's why it is like this. Install nubulu from sine.

[drifting mica]

send the github link of that mod

[flint nacelle]

https://github.com/sameerasw/zen-themes/tree/main/TransparentZen

[flint nacelle]

•

[slate parrot]

@strong cedar hey, any chance you could try and get your bonjourr css working on vivaldi? it doesn't look the same as is for me.

trying to see how close i can mimic my zen setup on something else

[astral lichen]

someone can help me?

I have two issues, one is this window is too transparent:

and the tabs are to close to the url

[scenic fog]

does the linux version has less blur than the windows version ?

[flint nacelle]

Do you have Sine?

[astral lichen]

what do u mean by Sline?

[ivory plinth]

sine mod

[astral lichen]

hm I have some mods, but I can't say exactly which one is Sine, so I don't know if I have

[lyric lintel]

startup vs when fully loaded
@strong cedar any idea why is this happening (the blur)?

ok figured it out, its the Edit Theme: Contrast
but it gets reset to max with every restart

since u are using js can u add a rule for this?

[flint nacelle]

https://github.com/CosmoCreeper/Sine

Install Nubulu using this.

[ivory plinth]

nubulu

[astral lichen]

Do I need to uninstall the files I downloaded directly from Nebula's git, or can I follow the steps to clear the cache and it will work?

[flint nacelle]

Del all files and folders in chrome folder.

Also ensure that zen-themes.json in profile folder has only {} in it.

@astral lichen after that install Sine.

[astral lichen]

ok thx, I will do it

[astral lichen]

very nice

@flint nacelle ty

[strong cedar]

WHAT THE FK

lmao

[ivory plinth]

the comment got shadow banned

[strong cedar]

i did fix it but not released the fix yet cuz i was busy

[ivory plinth]

due to the fact that i edit it

[strong cedar]

wdym it works for me

@midnight marsh you need to enable the pinned extensions config

[strong cedar]

its @tropic scroll 's css and it should work just fine ig

[strong cedar]

the contrast is having some issues, i wanna fix it but idk how

[ivory plinth]

also hi @strong cedar long time no see

[strong cedar]

hii

i was offline for 2 days ig

[ivory plinth]

ye

[strong cedar]

@lyric lintel using the current js of nebula, what happens is that at restart the zen color is still visible at contrast 0 (it is like this in default zen too) and its only until the user change the contrast slider again to 0 when it gets transparent
it is probably happening due to startup cache loading the gradient even if my js is made to make it not visible at 0 contrast

if set to 0 again

if there is any way to fix it then lmk

[ivory plinth]

nubuli

[lyric lintel]

nulili

[lyric lintel]

ill look into it

[strong cedar]

uh idk how and what happened but i tried splitting polyfill and gradient slider to different modules and somehow now the issue is fixed

or atleast for now it looks like its fixed

[wild leaf]

  #titlebar {

    &::before {
      background: #19191966 !important;
    }
  }
}```

I added this to my userChrome.css, the value is hex of rgba(25,25,25, 0.4) I believe, you can tune it as you like

[strong cedar]

wait what

are u sure its due to this?

the screenshot looks like the js is not working and thats why the sidebar is bugged

[wild leaf]

Nope, by default it's transparent, I just wanted to make it less transparent, it's not a fix for the layout

[strong cedar]

uh

its solid....

[wild leaf]

#1347445886384345089 message
It was like this for me, used 3.1.1 code from github, but I don't use MicaForEveryone

[strong cedar]

check your console if you see anything like

at the top

[wild leaf]

Where is it? If I set browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser to false, it would be solid black

[strong cedar]

ctrl shift j

[wild leaf]

Doesn't work for me, AMD driver is using that hotkey, is that just console from Inspect button or is it differnet one?

[strong cedar]

just try going to the inspector

[strong cedar]

yeah so looks like the js file is not present/working

thats why you guys are having that issue

try removing and downloading nebula again from marketplace

[wild leaf]

I downloaded it from github, latest code, not release, I don't have Sine, I had it but the version of Nebula was like 3.0.3?

[lyric lintel]

ahh, i was gonna try setting a timeout tbh

ok that didnt work

btw how do i get colored tab folder icons

[flint nacelle]

add rgb to it.

[midnight marsh]

how do i do this?

[flint nacelle]

In theme mod settings.

[frank sonnet]

idk if its only me but sometimes the theme work prefectly then sometimes its not its really inconsistence for me

[cold needle]

I got comet browser

omgg

it is so futuristic

[coarse sail]

@lilac rampart All the dark mode colors appear to be light mode.

1.14.5b

[lilac rampart]

That does not look like a dark color

Rather white

[drifting mica]

show ss?

[coarse sail]

no color works.

no matter where I drag it.

[coarse sail]

oh my....

for a wip browser, that looks amazing.

[cold needle]

yeahh

[coarse sail]

are you able to change the search engine?

lol

[cold needle]

maybe but then it wont be of any use i assume

[lilac rampart]

You might had clicked a dot

Remove all colours and don't use dots

Presets rather

[coarse sail]

oh, true, thanks. Do the dots not adjust to the theme?

[lilac rampart]

The theme adjusts to the fots

Dlts

Dots

[cold needle]

cheffie what do you think of the comet browser?

[lilac rampart]

I don't know what that is

[strong cedar]

current is v3.1.1 which has js

1k when yall

[coarse sail]

sine 1k when

[wild leaf]

Yep, I have the JS on the screenshot. Is installation different when no Sine? I just dropped everything to chrome folder

[coarse sail]

Nebula.uc.js needs to go in the JS folder in your chrome folder, but will only work if you have fx-autoconfig working.

[strong cedar]

i think it also requires something like this

[wild leaf]

Got it, I guess I'll install the sine and create a new profile then. Sine was causing some issues (yes, I did reset the cache in about:support). Thanks

[hard inlet]

workspace buttons still seem to be broken, really close to each other, latest version through sine

oh u can barely see it there here's better pic

it was fine on startup then when i looked again after a bit its like that

but invisible sidebar in compact mode is fixed and floating top toolbar is back so thats good

[dim sage]

yeah same

[flint nacelle]

@dim sage Remove Altover mod.

[dim sage]

huh?

altover?

[hard inlet]

yea whats altover

[flint nacelle]

@dim sage You have Sine?

[dim sage]

yeah I have sine

[flint nacelle]

Well, for me this issue only happens if I have both Nubulu and Altover addon enabled.

Both are there in Marketplace in Sine.

Everything is good if you don't have Altover addon.

[dim sage]

ah okay

[hard inlet]

oh this?

yea i dont have that installed and its still like that hmm

[flint nacelle]

Oh, then reinstall Nubulu.

[hard inlet]

sure

reinstalled, it was fine to look at, then i clicked on the first workspace button and its back to being really close to each other

[flint nacelle]

You can do this.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/byy8ler7auppgkc0nl0ov/explorer_7PygWBOdsq.mp4?rlkey=ede1mygg01js4zbcjgngrjvid&dl=0

[dim sage]

I dont even have super pins... so it requires super pins to fix?

[flint nacelle]

Yup.

[hard inlet]

damn

[flint nacelle]

fixed?

[hard inlet]

didnt try it

[fresh shore]

yeah

And also you can search with google if you shift + enter when you use perplexity as search engine

[ripe hatch]

is there a way to stop certain websites from looking like this (zen internet is disabled)

[worldly quarry]

I’m gonna like

Combust.

@coarse sail bro

Why is the installer not installing sine

😭

[coarse sail]

show me a screenshot

[jagged shadow]

It's because you didn't turn off transparency browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser set to false in about:config

and restart

[worldly quarry]

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Istg im going to combust bro

[coarse sail]

lol, you have a pre-v2 installer.

[worldly quarry]

This worked perfect last time 😭🙏

[worldly quarry]

what

I just downloaded the latest installer bro

[coarse sail]

just get the latest installer from the Sine repository.

[worldly quarry]

😭

i did 😭

2.1.5

Wait

Oh my lord.

[coarse sail]

it says enter twilight or zen, not a 1. or 2. choice.

[worldly quarry]

It saved as sine-linux-x64(1)

[ripe hatch]

thx goat

[coarse sail]

lol.

[worldly quarry]

It’s

Im gonna throw my laptop off a window bro

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@coarse sail am i fr this cooked

[neat island]

does nebula also have the compact mode for the pdf viewer like natsumi?

[worldly quarry]

w h a t?

[neat island]

the pdf tools should only appear on hover

[coarse sail]

okay, ensure you cleared startup cache, and did you run it with sudo? (don't run it with sudo)

[flint nacelle]

Go to about:support and click Clear Startup Cache. Do this 1-3 times and Sine will appear.

[worldly quarry]

The sine installer?

Or zen?

[worldly quarry]

I’ve done this seven times already

And nothing

[worldly quarry]

I ran the sine installer from root 💀🙏