Zen Zero

[pine storm]

Plz clear the misunderstanding of Zen's apocalypse.

[dull rover]

eyyy don't tag him....

let's give a sec to figure out

[pine storm]

he is offline

will del it

[dull rover]

ye

[pine storm]

link

[dull rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/zen_browser/comments/1lek1fa/what_happened_to_the_zen_browser_github_repos/

Also there was an announcement too... not checked yet

[alpine briar]

let's go!! Sine is still here!

[dull rover]

"still" intensifies

[dull rover]

ok, Ima sleep.... hopefully I'll wake up to a good news

[alpine briar]

😭 another day without the local folder from about:profiles on Mac.

[dull rover]

o shi... forgor.. basically no reminder = not doing it LOL

I got goldfish brain... sorry

[alpine briar]

you're good. its not necessary, but it will allow startup cache to be cleared when running the auto-installer (on Mac; Windows implementation is already done.)

[dull rover]

'/Users/sameerasandakelum/Library/Caches/zen/Profiles/p176wzp7.Default (release)'

[alpine briar]

Okay, thanks! I'll see if I can figure this out.

[dull rover]

awesome

[alpine briar]

dang it. why is this one lowercase? Could be different for each browser, idk. I'll see if Claude knows something about it first.

[dull rover]

ooo true... think it's supposed to use package name there

[vast sage]

@dull rover I neeed css to autohide workspace buttons on the bottom and things between it.

[dull rover]

I think those were in my general css module in zen zero... not sure tho

[inner vigil]

@dull rover Why is the transparency CSS not injected for me? It was working fine. Can you help me?

[dull rover]

Did you just install? might need the browser to be re-opened

[inner vigil]

It works when I toggle the "skip styling for this site"

[inner vigil]

no it was perfectly working for weeks

[dull rover]

check your darkreader, if it's enabled for this websites... which should not be since the website already got a dark theme

[inner vigil]

it off and this issue happens for all website not just chatgpt

I think there is a bug in condition checking whether to inject the styles or not

[dull rover]

ohhh all websites.. that's very interesting.. can you go into the advanced settings of the zen internet and take a backup? and share that json file here? would help a lot troubleshooting

[inner vigil]

I uninstall the extension, cleared all data did a fresh install still this issue persists.

[dull rover]

hard to tell since if that's the case, everyone should have it... the only issue I am aware is just after install which I got no idea how happens

[dull rover]

lemme take a look

[dull rover]

just for testing, can you enable force theming and see if all works fine?

[inner vigil]

yes it works, but the website css should be injected no matter the force theming right?

[dull rover]

yeah exactly... but this is the exact thing I see when I install the addon for the first time on a browser... but fully quitting (all profiles) and re-opening the browser fixes it automatically...

Just to be sure, since I see you got stylus and some js stuff, is there a possiblity of trying out it on a new profile or with those addons disabled to see if they are affecting it?

(if it's a new profile, you might have to re-open it after installing the addon)

[inner vigil]

I disabled the extensions it worked fine, then i re-enabled the extension it again works fine.

But I dont have any styles for chatgpt on stylus.

This bug happened when I mess with blacklist mode and toggle global styling

[dull rover]

so now works or still got issues?

[inner vigil]

now works, but I will try to reproduce that bug by messing with toggles.

[dull rover]

ohhhh Also there might be a firefox side bug too... because I always have issues with addons which uses the lcoal storage on first install... but if a cause was found, would help a lot to fix :3

[alpine briar]

okay. ill use the package names for all of them but add lowercase zen in the list too.

[true birch]

Hi @dull rover sorry if you are busy, I also got a transparency issue, on Dribble lately. if you time, I tell you the details 😊

[dull rover]

ohhhh does Dribble haev a native theme or is it forced?

[true birch]

Native default + darkreader of course, Forced working

[true birch]

And I know that there is a css on the theme repo... but somehow it does not see it

[dull rover]

LOL

[true birch]

Yeah I know 😁

[dull rover]

I renamed it... should work.. but it is using the darkreader workaround so dark theme gonna have the common overlay issue stho

[true birch]

Sooo should I disable DR for that?

[dull rover]

no no.. if you are using in dark theme, it will require darkreader... since the page does not have a dedicated dark theme.. but using darkreader workaround means there's gonna be broken overlays like this...

[true birch]

Hmmm okay, lemme check

[alpine briar]

oh, I noticed that occasionally when I start my browser and visit a website (i am on whitelist mode) which I have not enabled styles for, it will appear with the zen internet styling, and I have to refresh the page for it to work properly.

[dull rover]

yeah starting the browser is weird on zen and ff... I think it saves some cache from the last session and do a hot reload of that page but then it might miss or do weird with addons... especially with pinned and essentials... idk if it's even a thing I can counter from the addon's position or a browser thing

[true birch]

Much appriciated you are the best 🙏 😊

[alpine briar]

wait a min, I didn't have that before. I think its when I reinstalled Dark Reader cause it doesn't happen anymore after I removed it.

[dull rover]

it's at least usable now :3

I should look into the darkreader's theme and css to see if there's a way to prevent the overlays breaking but chances are low

[dull rover]

that might very well be possible.. I also know that dark reader does not detect the dark theme of github by default... I know if I open zen and go to one of my pinned github pages, it's gonna have the zen internet css to hide stuff and such but transparency gonna be overridden with darkreader... maybe that addon loads before others or smthing... or maybe later sicne css applies in the order

[true birch]

Thanks, sometimes it can break the pages astetics thats true, but you made a huge work by now 😊

[alpine briar]

ok.

[true birch]

Ohh and BTW I was the 99Designs guy on github... I still try to make the theme for it, but I got no time for that right now, But I'll try if I have some spare time 😊

[dull rover]

ohhh that you :3

Me too me too.. haven't done theme requests in a week or so... gotta get back.. also zen's performance been giving me some headaches recently as well... gotta figure it out

[true birch]

Wish you good luck with that 👍

[pulsar arch]

At this point I dont even know what's an official UI change and what's Sameer's

Dood so goated

[dull rover]

btw, if you didn't know.. some sht went down recently so clear out your browser cookies and update your pws... hope ya'll got 2FA and passkeys already set up.

[floral valley]

Oh that’s fun… guess it’s time for my password reset spree

Gosh I really wish companies used passkeys to let us remove the password entirely so we didn’t worry about it getting stolen. Sure, if we have passkeys both as the primary source or as a second factor that’s less of a concern but still if a password still exists then it’s still something to maintain

[dull rover]

exactly! same with storing cookies

[dull rover]

Much better , cleaner and helpful UI coming with hints :3

[dull rover]

v2.5.0 A UI overhaul!

• Re-organized and updated UI for better usability
• Descriptive tooltips
• Fallback background improvements
• Simplified theming controls
• More minor fixes and changes

[dull rover]

yayyy! Zen is bac! now we wait... again https://github.com/zen-browser/theme-store/pull/1572

[pulsar arch]

@dull rover Can you find any install button in Zen Mod Store?

[dull rover]

nope

"sine" it is 😁

[dull rover]

:3

[true birch]

Wow niiiice, waiting for mozilla to monitor 2.5.2 update 😊

[alpine briar]

looking great!
*Transparent Zen for Firefox🤞 *

[dull rover]

Should be out... can update manually if not already present 🙂

[dull rover]

ohhhh I looked into this, there's some issues tho... a single mod won't be ideal on both right? or is there a way that I can show certain settings in sine only in zen? if that so, I will just port the transparency for ff

[alpine briar]

Sine will have a sine.fork-id pref that is equal to a number corresponding to the firefox fork. this can be used along with the conditions property in order to make this possible.

I'll give you the value for each fork in a bit, but you don't have to worry abt that yet, just that it will work.

[dull rover]

the issue is that transparent zen got a lot of features and most are based on zen css which I gotta remove when it's shown on other forks... some of them like the urlbar blur and sidebar tweaks will even break existing ff ... I'll make a branch in transparent zen for sine... where I will include css to make firefox transparent as well...

[alpine briar]

yeah, you'll be able to hide them. When you implement it, u will have to do the same conditions property for each existing setting, but you can just copy/paste and I'm working on making a container type that will allow you to hide an entire section.

[dull rover]

nice... since zen was transparent already, it was easy... but I think I might have to create themes for every fork then

[alpine briar]

should ff and all ff forks that are not zen work with just one theme?

[dull rover]

nah... zen already got transparency so I just had to change a flag to remove the website backplate.... that's all..

but afaik, firefox ui got it's own layers and different elements to be transparent and it's diff with any of the browsers...

I can't find the background color variable and #0000 it since that might break a menu background or so

[alpine briar]

okay. main firefox will do for now, not as many use mullvad or floorp (although floorp would be nice.)

[dull rover]

ye I will try to add support for both of them tonight... I think there's a lot of variations and flags to be involved when comes to each of them on different OSs which I gotta figure out later too

[alpine briar]

ok. thanks!

[true birch]

How can I update manually? 😊

[dull rover]

Added for firefox... just need to make them specific for ff or at least not visible on zen for now...

https://github.com/sameerasw/zen-themes/tree/sine/TransparentZen

[dull rover]

in about:addons

[true birch]

Thank you, I didn't thought about that 😅

[vast sage]

@dull rover Can you try this?

This adds something like liquid glass to the close button.

/* Apple-Style Close Button */
.tabbrowser-tab .tab-close-button {
  background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.25) !important;
  backdrop-filter: blur(3px) saturate(180%) !important;
  -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(3px) saturate(180%) !important;
  border: 1px solid rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8) !important;
  border-radius: 50% !important;
  box-shadow: 
    0 2px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.1),
    inset 0 2px 4px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.3) !important;
  transition: all 0.3s cubic-bezier(0.175, 0.885, 0.32, 1.275) !important;
  filter: drop-shadow(0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.1)) !important;
}

[vast sage]

@dull rover What do you think?

[vagrant marten]

what in ai world is this lol

[alpine briar]

what does that mean? (no seriously i have no idea what u meant by that.)

[alpine briar]

looks amazing! I'll get you the values in a sec, I just have to ensure that Sine's conditions support works for numbers (it should.)

okay, it works. I'll get you the conditions thing to make it work.

do you want it to show only on firefox or show when its not zen?

[vast sage]

nvm

[vast sage]

Lol, this is @alpine briar's ai model that he wants to try.

[alpine briar]

im serious, i want a full theme that makes ff/zen look like ie.

[vast sage]

What do you mean with ie?

[alpine briar]

internet explorer

with win aero glass transparency

[vast sage]

Holy.......

[vast sage]

Look at that lol.

[dull rover]

looks kinda too beveled ... (if that's teh correct work for it 😁 )

[alpine briar]

nah, like it needs to have that but each button has a blue or red color behind it with a glow in it and the button borders need to be flipped.

[vast sage]

Yeah, but it's apple's liquid glass.

[dull rover]

I think I will have to add this for each browser... some of the firefox parts might match some others but prolly won't be the saem ig... Will try to find a common theme for them but all of them should not go along with zen since that might even break workspace colors

[alpine briar]

okay. so ill just give you the conditions in order to make settings only show for ff.

[vast sage]

I will send video for it, but i will dinner now.

[dull rover]

ye that will help....

[alpine briar]

"conditions": [{"if": {"property": "sine.fork-id", "value": 0}}]
this should do it in the Sine v2 pre-release.

"conditions": [{"if": {"property": "sine.fork-id", "value": 1}}]
This will do to make Zen settings hidden in other forks. Sine v2 pre-release.

[true birch]

Does the Liquid Glass UI has a readability issue int he current state of Apples design?

[dull rover]

aha... so 1 is for zen specifics and 0 for?

[dull rover]

[alpine briar]

0 is for firefox or any unknown fork. Most forks are detected by Sine though.

[dull rover]

wayyyyy... wayyyyyyy worse than it used to.. and it can not be forgiven as beta.. because you don't beta test UX. That's what research is for

[dull rover]

got it

[true birch]

As a designer... god help us all then

[dull rover]

IKRRRR!!!!!!
it's even worse here....

[true birch]

Okay Apple... I know that your motto is: Think differently... but comeoooon

[true birch]

And @dull rover, I'm soo sorry for your eyes 😔🙏

[dull rover]

Ye... i regret trying beta... but at least I'm fine since I barely keep other UI visible.. no dock, no menu bar... 🙂

[true birch]

Hopefully the release state will be much more better

[vast sage]

@dull rover Do you have any way to make searchbar look very transparent and with strong blur to look similar to macos 26 searchbar transparency and blur?

[vast sage]

How I can do that?

[vast sage]

@dull rover @alpine briar

Sorry for bothering.

[alpine briar]

Its not added yet. He's working on it.

[vast sage]

Okay!

Bc it's very good and I need it to be in floorp, I use floorp but not that much and I could go back to it and make my own theme but to make transparency it's like hard to do it in floorp (bc I'm windows 10)

[alpine briar]

Up to him, but i assume it will be supported.

[dull rover]

URL bar? I mean, we could reduce the transparency but like the bad UX in liquid glass, it's not gonna be readable.. also transparency + blur doesn't go along well

[dull rover]

I'm gonna make a floorp theme as well.. but idk if transparency still be a thing just liker any ff fork on Win10

It's not the browser, it's the OS

[pine storm]

@dull rover Hey can you introduce a change in containers?

The current style only glows on hover, but can you make it hover all the time when the container tab is active?

[dull rover]

done

[dull rover]

I broke bug reports so while fixing it, giving some more love :3 Proper issue categories

[pine storm]

Ooh, ZenOS26 busted making an entry...

[dull rover]

hehe... aperently leaving gaps around the compac sidebar is not dieal since that breaks hover.. so gave up

The new sidebar sucks anyways in mac

Some transparency stuff goign over on twilight right? Hope it gets fixed

[tight junco]

Could you please make sites opt in

I keep getting reports of YouTube being completely white

It's starting to become really annoying

[dull rover]

It's an option but not by default... I even added a FAQ section but some just ignores that...

I am adding a setup process in the addon so people can pick if the want to opt in or always on.. but will add a unskippable prompt with warnings about these issues like white background, text readability and such...

So at least the first time users will know where to ask for help ...

[tight junco]

Alr good

[alpine briar]

looks so good, but I noticed that when I scroll down and the header shrinks down, pressing the reload button doesn't work all the time (looks like only when there are no other elements below it.)

[dull rover]

ohhh I SEE!!!! I thought putting opacity 0 was fine but it is still there... Will try to fix it soon...

[dull rover]

Zen Internet setup WIP

[dull rover]

Zen Internet v2.6.1 - A welcome setup screen and a very very very important disclaimer

Added a welcome screen

• Added an initial setup which will further improve in updates
• Added a disclaimer on reporting issues and for getting help
• Fixed reload button in some cases
• A lot of more fixes
• Code improvements

Note: If you are an existing user, you will also be prompted to complete the setup screen but only the disclaimer agreement.

I hope there's no bugs since I'm gonna be away from my mac for 2+ days

[dull rover]

Yayyy! But since I'm on the move.. gonna take a while to make a post

[dull rover]

Nvm, I got it... Rather kill my back with extra 1kg than using my Windows laptop 💀

[alpine briar]

I take that offensively, although I use mods for my windows desktop everywhere cause the typical interface is kinda bleh.

[dull rover]

Ohhh I should have said better... *Windows work laptop

[alpine briar]

Oh. Is it 10?

...or XP

[dull rover]

Nope.. 11.. the work restrictions don't really matter but it's an HP with 11th gen .... It's not a "lap"top... Using on lap be like saying good bye to couple of future generations 😂 and that's on idle

[alpine briar]

Not as bad as my gaming laptop.

[dull rover]

Well.. it's acceptable because you got a dgpu. This is just on iris and got too much memory... Just 11th gen stuff ig

[dull rover]

All the new stuff here (Transparent Zen is updated but still waiting for a deployment to the mods store)

First of all, I'm asking all of you to NOT REPORT BUGS TO OFFICIAL GITHUB of the topic website transparency. This is a completely 3rd party tool/s you are using on top of Zen to achieve a very unique and native look to the browser where you sped a considerable amount of time in the day to improve that experience. Please stop bothering the development and devs on these issues. Report them to me and if I feel like it's something to do with the browser itself, I will inform you. This is also a reason why the new zen internet setup was added.

Here's the actual goodies,

Transparent Zen Mod (Up to v1.13.0) :

1. You can now have transparency for the compact sidebar, kind of... It's a workaround with either masking or just pushing the page but you got the point. When using this, you will have to enter the manual compact sidebar width.
2. Added some preset animation smoothing for tab switch, trackpad and urlbar animations.
3. Bookmarks and history sidebar is not transparent as well.

Zen Internet Addon (Up to v2.6.1) :

1. New onboarding flow informing you where to report bugs and get help and also letting you choose which blacklist/ whitelist strategy to use for theming websites. (Theme all by default or only selected websites). This can be configured later.
2. New theme requesting flow. Now the addon checks for existing theme requests before creating a new one (assuming the API limit wasn't reached). Also allows you to view existing issues and requests withing the addon.
3. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) are answered inside the addon for quick clarifications and will improve in future updates.
4. Added a new/ improved bug report and support feature. From now one, please use this issue reporting feature for anything related to the addon, mod or website transparency. Only reach out to me on other platforms if not possible.

(っ◕‿◕)っ

Enjoy! keep ricing.

[vagrant marten]

addon working nice , i like the new design

[alpine briar]

Only if it was Mac dock style.

[vagrant marten]

only if message loggers didnt existed

https://tenor.com/view/balls-154-gif-3400217220900343707

[alpine briar]

Only if I was on pc with my message logger so I could see what u edited.

[dull rover]

BTW, Can you guys install mods from the store? cuz I can't.. there's no install button

Soon :3

[alpine briar]

Oh shoot. U on Cosine?

[alpine briar]

Can I be in?🥺

[dull rover]

ohhh is that why?

[dull rover]

sure... still figuring out this channel stuff... not as easy as it was in Telegram LOL

[alpine briar]

Yeah. Its a new system so it needs new implementation. Thats pretty much the main thing left until Sine v2.

[vagrant marten]

can i be in ?

[dull rover]

I see... 🙂

[dull rover]

soooooooon

[vagrant marten]

noooooooo

[alpine briar]

You dont make enough random projects on ur free time like me.

[vagrant marten]

i dont have free time like you

[alpine briar]

that's who this server is for.

[pulsar arch]

Exactly, me too

[pulsar arch]

Oh

[alpine briar]

hey, in zen internet, when i click refetch latest styles and i have my zen internet set to have styles disabled on that site, it enables styles on that site until i refresh.

[dull rover]

ye it's a quite old known issue.. I was about to fix it yesterday but didn't have enough time... maybe soooon

It's bout time...

[topaz ingot]

hey does dark reader not work with zen internet

in youtube

[pine storm]

Why do you need dark reader on YT?

When YT already has dark theme.

[alpine briar]

He wants it darker.

[alpine briar]

I suggest using dark reader for the dark reader extension site.

[inner vigil]

Hi @dull rover,

How do I enable transparency for this particular site (I'm on whitelist mode)? this one doesn't have a dedicated css but the default force styling works fine for this site: https://www.moviestillsdb.com/. But if I turn on force styling it styles all others sites too.

A small suggestion I think the current toggle labels are little confusing. The ? hints are awesome to understand just the toggle names. Tq.

[manic terrace]

have u tried clicking skip forcing for this site

[dull rover]

ohhh regular themign and forced theme have separate blacklist/ whitelist .... I did this because when a new theme added , it won't be skipped...

enable also force styling and the force styling whitelist mdoe as well from the toggle below it

[dull rover]

that toggle has no effect when forcing toggle is off... I need ot indicate that well.. if I get some time, i'll fix it tonight

[manic terrace]

o

[inner vigil]

There is no forced white list mode

[dull rover]

toggle this as well

[inner vigil]

Oops my bad, these toggles are confusing for me 😁

[manic terrace]

ye

they dont change names

but i get wat he means

[dull rover]

I'll think of a different simpler approach to this whenever I'm free next time :3

[inner vigil]

Any thoughts about this: https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/pull/1334#issuecomment-2989771557

I could implement it for you, if you like.

[manic terrace]

it smells

of

spicetify

[dull rover]

oooo i'll review it soon... it's quite a fun website to theme as well

[dull rover]

Noooo not again! Now I have to make another theme!

[pine storm]

Dw, Claude will handle it.

[thin tundra]

the extension is blurry for some reason

[pine storm]

Your DE's Blur has so much AURA that even Zen Internet is finding it hard to stand against it and display content. /s
Try to reduce blur.

[dull rover]

idk... this one I doubt unless there's agentic features.....

[dull rover]

huh... weird... only this? doesn't happen for darkreader and such?

[vast sage]

@dull rover What do you think about the apple's look-like liquid glass effect on the essentials?

@dull rover And see this:

[dull rover]

oooo that sure looks a lot like glass indeed... gonna look nice when the browser is transparent

[vast sage]

This is look-like apple's liquid glass effect css for essentials and tabs:

/* Enable userChrome.css */
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

/* SVG Filter for Apple's Liquid Glass Distortion */
#main-window::before {
  content: "";
  position: fixed;
  top: 0;
  left: 0;
  width: 0;
  height: 0;
  background-image: url('data:image/svg+xml;utf8,<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><defs><filter id="liquid-glass-filter"><feTurbulence baseFrequency="0.02" numOctaves="3" seed="1" stitchTiles="stitch"/><feDisplacementMap in="SourceGraphic" scale="6"/><feGaussianBlur stdDeviation="0.3"/><feSpecularLighting result="specOut" lighting-color="white" specularConstant="1.5" specularExponent="15"><feDistantLight azimuth="45" elevation="45"/></feSpecularLighting><feComposite in="specOut" in2="SourceAlpha" operator="in" result="specOut2"/><feComposite in="SourceGraphic" in2="specOut2" operator="arithmetic" k1="0" k2="1" k3="1" k4="0"/></filter></defs></svg>');
}

/* Apple's Liquid Effect with Specular Highlights */
.tabbrowser-tab .tab-background::after {
  content: "" !important;
  position: absolute !important;
  inset: 0 !important;
  background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.1) !important;
  border-radius: 12px !important;
  backdrop-filter: blur(1px) !important;
  -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(1px) !important;
  box-shadow: 
    inset -10px -8px 0px -11px rgba(255, 255, 255, 1),
    inset 0px -9px 0px -8px rgba(255, 255, 255, 1) !important;
  opacity: 0.6 !important;
  z-index: 1 !important;
  filter: blur(1px) drop-shadow(10px 4px 6px black) brightness(115%) !important;
  pointer-events: none !important;
}

And this is look-like apple's liquid glass effect css for close button:

/* Transparent Close Button */
.tabbrowser-tab .tab-close-button {
  background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.08) !important;
  backdrop-filter: blur(6px) !important;
  -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(6px) !important;
  border: 1px solid rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.15) !important;
  border-radius: 50% !important;
  transition: all 0.3s ease !important;
  opacity: 0.8 !important;
}

.tabbrowser-tab .tab-close-button:hover {
  background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.15) !important;
  backdrop-filter: blur(8px) !important;
  -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(8px) !important;
  transform: scale(1.1) !important;
  opacity: 1 !important;
}

[dull rover]

ohhh you are using svgs... that's nice...

I once tried the glass slab effect too but was too complicated to do with pure css and such... best attempt was with 3 layers of blur which gets lesser near the edges....

BTW, the PR got merged but since the store wasn't deployed after that, we're still stuck at v1.12 and all the new features are yet to be deployed... idk if chef's busy to ask for a re-build so I'll wait...

In the mean time, you can use sine to get those features early with even more when comes to some other themes!

[pine storm]

Add your theme to Marketplace

[dull rover]

the changes are already merged. The store just need to be re-build and deployed to include it....

[inner garnet]

why i dont have blur on gnome?

i use mint + Gnome

[dull rover]

You need blurmyshell extension to get transparency with blur since glome does not provide a blur for the windows by default.. this might not be a smooth implementation but it's the only known way so far.

[inner garnet]

i did it but my zen is not blurred****

[dull rover]

I personally don't know exact settings for it tho since I haven't used gnome in a while... I assume it's only transparent right? not blurred? Might need to look into how to use blurmyshell

[inner garnet]

only transparent no blur yeah

[dull rover]

Also if you find any specific configs for blurmyshell that works well, please share so I'll include it in my guide.. it's currently missing gnome instructions

I have seen someone in this server achieve it on vc live I think but it was a while ago... also idk if installation package type matters...

try to look how to achieve this with ff, should be the same process

oggg FireFox

it should be easy to find since people have done the transparency stuff in the past more than zen

unfortunately I couldn't find any either... maybe ask in a subreddit? or in css mods channel here ? not sure tho....

[dull rover]

hey man, check my DM if you are still figuring out the transparency issue in gnome

[uncut marten]

Have u seen this one? probably the nicest out there

[dull rover]

afaik, this was some svg stuff.. which I doubt is possible inside firefox css since it's quitebehind the current css standards

but looked hella nice tho

[vagrant marten]

btw my spotify theme is breaking

like every new update changes ids and classes of spotify its so wierd

[dull rover]

argh... I hate random css selectors.... will see if there's an easier way....

[vagrant marten]

umm i was asking him

[dull rover]

ohhh nvm

[vagrant marten]

i use his spicetify app theme

[dull rover]

ye.... you need to make sure the css selectors are element pointers, not weird generated classes or variables or they may break

[pine storm]

integrate ai in your addon to automatically adjust changes in css that breaks just due to id changes.

[vagrant marten]

yeah those are temporary

[vagrant marten]

ai aint smart bro

[dull rover]

nah... integrate Ai so it slaps the user if they report transparency issues in official repo LOL

[pine storm]

Well it is useful.

[vagrant marten]

like not smart enought to do that

also this is not what i am talking about

[pine storm]

Ik, I just reinstalled and it enabled ai.

[vagrant marten]

did u updated to latest version?

anyways i think now it is latest

[pine storm]

Raycast.Package_0.25.2.0_17c47d62b_x64.msix

[dull rover]

ye.. until we get agentic AI stuff, this isn't possible with AI

[vagrant marten]

btw u graduated or still in colledge?

[dull rover]

part time under grad, full time intern

[uncut marten]

Is ur language set to anything besides english? that could be the problem

[vast sage]

Is that really I can use in zen?

[manic terrace]

why would ai be smart or dumb

it's a statistical model

an advanced polynomial

mixed in with 4d tensors calculus gradient descent

in simple terms

Take your preschool probability tree, and calculate the probability of randomly guessing the correct answer by randomly putting a series of words an infinite amount of times but make it lossy and based on data you have.

That's what AI is doing

no graph can accurately depict what AI "intelligence is" only how often said probability prediction reappears if even similar context/answer as the previous

[vagrant marten]

forgive my mistake , it was casual comment aunt

[manic terrace]

hi blatantq

[vagrant marten]

who is that

no . what is that

[dull rover]

why is that

[dull rover]

:3

[floral valley]

Ain’t no way

[dull rover]

it's just figma 😁

[floral valley]

Looks cool regardless

[vast sage]

I like it, did you do it?

[dull rover]

ye

Final,

It's 8AM so bye!

[uncut marten]

YOOOOO

Someone make this ASAP

[vast sage]

So, did you released it or did you complete it?

[dull rover]

I mean, it's a Figma design

[uncut marten]

I wonder if there's any way to change the default window border radius

[vast sage]

Then, can you send a pre-release?

[dull rover]

That highly depend on the OS, when switching to liquid ass on macOS, we can do it... I mean, we can already set the border radius of html in userChrome higher but the window border provided by the OS will still be there...

[vast sage]

I made something similar to this urlbar outline.

[dull rover]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-joke-right-youre-kidding-are-you-serious-youre-joking-seriously-gif-16416832

[vast sage]

Nope lol

[dull rover]

ye... it's not a thing possible with css to replicate the actual behavior since it acts as there's a gap between the border which shines the wallpaper behind

[dull rover]

it's just a graphic I made... not an actual theme..

[uncut marten]

ye im wondering specifically about windows

[vast sage]

But why you don't just send it?

[uncut marten]

micaforeveryone has an option for it

[dull rover]

if you insist, it's not a well made mockup tho.. also my device cooks when working on it
https://www.figma.com/design/ADaxAanvxAnD8QHd0Et8id/Untitled?node-id=0-1&t=HnUnGUOCOuh4vuUV-1

[dull rover]

but isn't this toggling between the legacy border radius and back? or does it allow other apps to be more round than windows doees?

[uncut marten]

Prob the former

[alpine briar]

Well, you could make a theme for Zen that makes it look windows 7-y and use the squared thing in mfe

[dull rover]

that is very true... actually I'm very surprsed someone haven't attempted an XP theme yet

I don't like it but added the URLbar in spotlight style too LOL

I wish if Figma had progressive radial blur... only linear option is present yet

[alpine briar]

I think there's a nostalgic theme like that for ff. I made a pr to make it support Sine.
https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

[dull rover]

Yeah the compact mode does cook the resources LOL

Prototype : https://www.figma.com/proto/ADaxAanvxAnD8QHd0Et8id/Untitled?node-id=8-1061&t=GuU4pAPArIllYW2x-1&scaling=scale-down-width&content-scaling=fixed&page-id=8%3A1060&starting-point-node-id=8%3A1061

[vast sage]

Sorry for my weird question, Is figma for concepts?

[true birch]

Figma is an UX/UI design tool, and it can be used for a lot of things, like webdesign graphical interface, and mobile app designs... and also you can make prototypes with it, to design these interfaces how it will behave in a real environment, like animations, interactions, and so on

[inner vigil]

@dull rover Thanks for the descriptive comments support! You said that you liked the feature: idea, but cant edit the existing 500+ css files. What if I make a PR to edit all those existing 500+ css? will it be ok?

because feature: is more organized and unique and may be in future we can also have something like feature:true and feature:false to whether default turn it on or off.

because currently all the features are turned on forcefully eg: letterboxd's trailer buttons are hidden by default. lol imagine a movie site with no trailers 💀

I was wonder where that button went for a few hours then found that it was the zen internet extension.

for this kinda situation we can use feature:false:hide trailer button to make it off by default. So users don't miss any existing features.

currently there arent much descriptive comments so I could just make a simple script to edit all the feature comments.

[tight junco]

@dull rover please stop posting so much

It's like

A post per day now

Really spammy

[dull rover]

Sorry about that, won't be happening again in near future since I'm taking a bit of a break too...

[tight junco]

nah like

it's fine

but maybe we should do a zen_mods reddit or smth

[dull rover]

yeap, even we had the idea but couldn't get to any since I was busy for 2-3 weeks straight and finally free now 🙂

[pine storm]

@dull rover Is Google Search suggestion bg for you like this as well?

Like it used to be opaque.

[dull rover]

might be AI mode... will look into this... it shouldn't be transparent anyways because css

[pine storm]

seems like element for search bg and search suggestions bg merged...

[dull rover]

we could implement a default value on top of this... but updating them all and reviewing ain't gonna be ez...

[dull rover]

oooo that makes sense why

I'll look into it tonight hopefully

[pine storm]

@dull rover How did you make make this bro?

Damn, it'll be so easy to just include it in preference.json

[dull rover]

Had to declare this custom css variable in a higher level to use in both places.

[pine storm]

Eh, can you give or tell where the code for it is? Can't understand much with this Inspector.

[dull rover]

in the mod source code or in style editor when the mod is working?

[lethal musk]

@dull rover did you download sin v2?

if so how

[brave laurel]

Any way to fix this weird background in the search bar using a masked transparent compact sidebar?

[dull rover]

Not on v2 tho... Haven't gotten to test yet... I had issues with sine 2 alone which just cleared out

[brave laurel]

Also it's more transparent at the top? Idk

[dull rover]

Maybe another mod overriding it? Try adjusting the width in mod settings

[brave laurel]

set to 230 i think rn

the mask is a bit jank

[dull rover]

Same with push?

[brave laurel]

push seems good but seems like an unfair fight because there isn't any testing between overlap of the browser

like YT

mask just seems off

maybe even the animation

and this border for the background appears even before the animation for the slide out

hard to take a pic of that tho

[dull rover]

Well the same custom variable is used in both scenarios....

Can you check if in mask mode, if the compact sidebar always matches the regular sidebar width outside compact mode? It should not

[dull rover]

Ye that is expected since we can not animate masks 🥲

[brave laurel]

should i switch the 230 back to 165 then

[dull rover]

Ye, try and see if that adjusts the compact sidebar width too... If doesn't affect, that means something else interfering

[brave laurel]

alright

[brave laurel]

seems to only impact the compact sidebar when something other than default is enabled for the compact transparent sidebar type

[dull rover]

The width number? Yeah...

[brave laurel]

165 mask width

no mask no compact

different widths, do not match

[dull rover]

Yeah... The custom width is only for this transparency workaround. And once in a custom mode, it won't match the regular sidebar width instead should match the mask width but somehow failing here only in the mask mode it seems.. not in push mode

[brave laurel]

can continue this later but i gtg

the 165 effects push mode as well

[vast sage]

@dull rover Make zen transparent for waterfox, waterfox is so much fast but I need transparency to it.

We can use sine in waterfox

[dull rover]

I mean, it should... what should not happen is that the actual compact sidebar width and the mask width not matching...

Or similarly, the compact sidebar width and the amount the page moves in push mode not matching

[dull rover]

ye, I will try ... these days I'ma bit busy and also highly burned out.... If I get the opportunity, I'll try out since I too wanna get the mod on sine store

[brave laurel]

I see

The mask width does not match the default compact sidebar width

I'm forced to change the default 165 value to around 230

[vast sage]

@dull rover 🤯 🤯 Liquid glass 🤯 🤯

[vagrant marten]

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-buddy-spongebob-gif-6154100559256696215

[dull rover]

Drop shadow is kinda messing it up but good start

Just asking, so far, any issues on zen 1.14 with Transparent Zen?

ZenZero might have issues but not a priority ATM.

[vast sage]

This is not zen

It's vivaldi lol

[vast sage]

But the only problem is this is not firefox or firefox based and zen internet will not work, can you make a version for chormium?

[alpine briar]

Is ff support in Transparent Zen now?

[alpine briar]

Thats only possible if Vivaldi allows transparency in some form. Its a completely different backend setup that is much more locked down than Firefox is.

[vast sage]

I mean, just I want the extension not the hole theme

[alpine briar]

Yeah, but if Vivaldi doesnt support transparency, its not possible.

[vast sage]

Ah, it does not support but support in a way.

I can add background to vivaldi to make the browser when it gets transparent it shows vivaldi background

Vivaldi does support CSS customization

[alpine briar]

Oooohh, how do you customize CSS with it? (Sine for vivaldi)

Is it external or does it have to be internal?

[vast sage]

Wdym

[vast sage]

Using CSS file

[vast sage]

Like this

[vast sage]

Then add the location of it

And First you need to go In vivaldi://experiments , enable “Allow for using CSS modifications”

[vast sage]

1. In vivaldi://experiments , enable “Allow for using CSS modifications”
2. Add your CSS file in a folder (any location)
3. Go to Settings --> Appearance --> CUSTOM UI MODIFICATIONS --> Add your folder location

@alpine briar I think you can't add JS in vivaldi

Just CSS

[alpine briar]

Okay.

[dull rover]

oooo

Where tf are my tabs... why everything just went shuffle between all the workspaces? Zen updates are indeed a love hate relationship

[dull rover]

can you make a version for chormium?

Maybe... It works on Orion... it's just transparency is not possible there

[dull rover]

Nah... I haven't yet implemented the browser specific css config (I think... can't rmmbr)...

Gonna take a while

[dull rover]

I'ma try this.... to see if it's better than orion...

if so, might be my travel browser since Zen lately only gives me 4-5hrs of battery

[vast sage]

Nice!

[vast sage]

But I think it's hard to make transparent background for every website for chromium browsers

[dull rover]

Is there a browser inspect tool?

[vast sage]

Yes, Vivaldi browser has built-in developer tools, including an "Inspect Element" feature

similar to other Chromium-based browsers.

[pastel fractal]

after new zen update. Any fix?

[pure barn]

Wait it's buggy 😭

It's rolling back i guess?

[dull rover]

in the workspace theme editor, remove all colors

mine was an abomination when I updated

[brave laurel]

Is there any way to globally disable all hover-only elements on websites in ZI?

[pure barn]

It's in main setting page of zen internet

[brave laurel]

yeah im dumb ty

[dull rover]

transparent web subreddit?

It's a busy week.... barely done anything in the project... But I've seen a couple of transparency reports in the official zen sub which I asked not to do... So thinking about making a dedicated "transparent web" sub for anything about transparency. This also allows to help with any ff based browser as well and to reduce zen sub clutter too.

So basically "I'm making a cult"

[dull rover]

Also Zen power usage got improved slowly after 1.14 ... 10+hrs again

[brave laurel]

Ah nice

[brave laurel]

Do you know how to fix this?

Basically full transparency at the edge of the window when maximized

Transparent Zen + ZI + Mica with blur behind enabled

[dull rover]

I assume windows with mfe? this I do not know unfortunately...

[dull rover]

ye, might be a limitation but hope a windows user can help

[brave laurel]

I started using it because my entire window would gray out when I opened an app

But it introduced a new -- not as bad -- but still annoying, issue

[brave laurel]

alrighty thanks

[dull rover]

understandable... not even preventable on mac

[brave laurel]

about to test in an empty profile

[dull rover]

don't think this is a zen thing but idk

[brave laurel]

yeah same issue was just making sure before I make a bug report in mica

[dense tree]

Why doesn't something like this exist on windows

[pine storm]

It does...

[dense tree]

i was referring to the energy usage tab

[pine storm]

Oh, I guess that is also there.

[pure barn]

any idea how to make side bar same theme as the rest of browser ( i am using mask )

[pine storm]

Which OS?

[pure barn]

windows

[pine storm]

10 or 11?

[pure barn]

11

[pine storm]

Which app for transparency?

[pure barn]

dwm

blur glass

[pine storm]

Which theme are you using? Seems like 2 themes enabled at the same time.

[pure barn]

nebula

and i think tranprent zen

[pine storm]

Show installed mods section.

[pure barn]

ignore white

[pure barn]

hey

[pine storm]

wtf! how am i supposed to read this?

[pure barn]

oh wait f zen screen shot

[pine storm]

Win + Shit + S

[pure barn]

ik

man zen has become to buggy the theme dont even work

will have to re install

[pine storm]

Disable all mods except Nebula, SuperPins, Transparent Zen and Quick Search. Then restart browser.

[vagrant marten]

@pine storm sine working for u?

latest twilight

[pine storm]

I will try now.

[pure barn]

Ok fixed now just have to find which one of them dose

[pine storm]

You actually don't need some of the mods you disabled as Nubulu already has it by default.

Animations Plus is a redundant mod with no visible animations. Don't use it.

[pure barn]

Found it it's customized popup

Now big problem the white theme

[pine storm]

Get rid of - Better CtrlTab Panel, Cleaned URL Bar, Quietify

Keep the rest.

Bleeding Corner as well, get rid of it.

[pure barn]

Ok

[dull rover]

using a context menu mod? one used to cause this but I think it should be fixed by now... Either way, this is caused by a mod or css.

[alpine briar]

you can join me in the Sine cult. I'm thinking about making a Sine sub.

[dull rover]

hehe, much needed.... sorry about making no progress... for like 2 weeks, been stuck in some heavy work... Barely even used zen 😁 Will be back soon this week (hopefully)

I also made a transparent_web sub but nothing after was done LOL

[pure barn]

I fixed it already

[cloud quartz]

look at who i found

[pine storm]

joe goldberg level stalking!

•

[scarlet cave]

any reccomend userchrome?

[dull rover]

Hehe, I'm everywhere (っ◕‿◕)っ

actually I was wrong there, you do need a wipe 😁 but prolly will not need after upcoming builds (maybe)

[dull rover]

If you want to go along with transparency, I'd say try ZenZero but it may conflict with other mods or CSS you use if there are any.

https://github.com/sameerasw/ZenZero

[lethal musk]

@dull rover have you downloaded sine v2?

[dull rover]

Ye... currently on the latest after fixing an stuck update... but seems to work just fine. Well, except
"undefined (vundefined)
undefined"

But I never used the store so it's fine 🙂

[lethal musk]

how did you update it?

[pine storm]

Download 1.14.4b from GitHub.

[lethal musk]

??

im talking about sine

[pine storm]

That updated automatically for me.

[alpine briar]

you need to uncheck the custom marketplace.

users have set it to the old location for some reason, even though unchecking it just has the normal one regardless.

The stuck update was due to an engine failure that has been patched from now on.

[dull rover]

automatic installer

[dull rover]

AHA.... now fixed 🙂

Finally got a bit of free time and updated the guide with darkreader stuff and a navigation bar :3

[lethal musk]

its not working for me

this what im getting

[alpine briar]

Are you running the commands before the executable and running it from the terminal?

[lethal musk]

i have no clue what this sentence means

[dull rover]

Follow the provided instructions on GitHub for sine install

[alpine briar]

What sameerasw said is correct.

You need to run commands from the github repo, in your terminal.

[lethal musk]

i just did it, it says failed to install

[pine storm]

Install manually then.

[lethal musk]

idk how

@alpine briar this is what im getting

[pine storm]

https://github.com/CosmoCreeper/Sine/wiki/Installation

Scroll to Manual Installation part.

[alpine briar]

Alright, you're almost done. Just go to settings > privacy & security > scroll to full disk access > enable terminal

[lethal musk]

i did it manually

[alpine briar]

I wouldn't typically redirect people to manual installation cause the only reason they'd need to do that would be if there was a flaw in the auto-installer, and im trying to improve it.

[alpine briar]

Ah, it works?

[lethal musk]

why is the sine symbol not a sine graph. such blasphemy

[lethal musk]

yes

[pine storm]

What?

[alpine briar]

Yeah, I didnt think it would fit the best. If someone could provide an illustration of it in there with all the other tabs, I might consider changing it.

[alpine briar]

Okay, manual and automatic both work, just glad to hear it's working now.

[lethal musk]

you mean like this?

[alpine briar]

Yeah, but replace the Saturn with the Sine wave.

[pine storm]

Reply in Sine server. 🥺

[lethal musk]

where is the sine server?

[alpine briar]

On the github page, I have a link.

[pine storm]

@dull rover JS in ZenZero when?

[alpine briar]

Not needed yet. I'd recommend not doing it, until the manager update.

[pine storm]

Why not you develop a theme yourself? Will be cool to have a default theme enabled right after installing Sine!

A theme compatible across all Gecko based browsers! 😼

[alpine briar]

Bloatware to many. It would have to support all firefox-based browsers (or just be enabled on one), and i'd have to keep it up-to-date.

I'm making a js mod for the marketplace.

That is a profile manager

And ill add my Sine newtab theme to the marketplace, but nothing else.

[pine storm]

Oh, so is it v3 or v2.2?

[alpine briar]

No, not an update, just a js mod. The manager.json update is v2.2.

[dull rover]

When I'm back... Currently only doing bug fixes 🤧 🥲

[pine storm]

Oh right, folders releasing in Twilight by next week.

Keep that in consideration.

[dull rover]

O sht rlly? Then I'll be back soon ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

Will need some major redesigns with that anyways ... Gotta get ready.... Need to complete some website themes too

At least bugs

[pine storm]

You can do that with Pinned Tab Groups, which are already there now in Beta (if you hadn't noticed yet).

[dull rover]

Pinned tab groups?

[pine storm]

yes 🙂

try it

with ATG

Gives the look of what Folders will be like.

[dull rover]

ahhhh atg, I gotta fix it... broken since the last time I re-installed sine..

[pine storm]

New version of it fixed it all good. There is a bit of glitch with arrow and three dots, but it can be overlooked.

[dull rover]

need to try it.. but first need to disable my css to see how it really works 🙂

[pine storm]

Also check out the new sine logo on discord. I made it. 😁

[dull rover]

it is nice indeed

[dull rover]

ye, nice one.. noticed the change 😁

[pine storm]

How does it look while being pinned?

With your CSS

[dull rover]

my css doesn't work at all with it...

so skipped that file and had to fix text alignment and now looks decent 🙂

[dull rover]

All overlays in google should now be fixed as I ditched the wildcard check for div.

I will continue improving existing themes as I just finished all the theme requests and some of the bugs... some themes are quite outdated and need some attention.

[mystic arch]

this fixed what I was coming here for

[dull rover]

ohhh didn't expect those old stuff to work still... well, the mod does the job now 🙂

[mystic arch]

I'm surprised it works as well as it does. even just forcing just kinda works and looks pretty good

[alpine briar]

@dull rover gotta repost here.

[true birch]

Hi @dull rover I have a little issue with the zen internet extension. If you are available I give you the details about the behaviour of the issue

[dull rover]

wait... did nightly add that? or is it a 3rd party tool? because it taking effect in real time is already a dam improvement

[dull rover]

Sure, what's up?

[true birch]

So Zen got a little fucky recently so I did a total clean up... removed the browser, nuked the profiles, the whole thing, so I started on a clean slate

Installed Zen back, also installed Sine, no problem, installed the mods through Sine no problem, Installed the extensions, then the last part was off

So Zen internet decided that it wouldn't kepp the style of the page when I reload the page, I noticed this on youtube... huhh that's strange

Tried on other websites... all of them behaved similarly

When I refetched the style it worked, but when I reload the page, zen internet completely ignores it

So I scratching my head at this point 😅

[dull rover]

I think you might have toggled one of the whitelists. Can you quickly take an backup from advanced settings and share the file, will answer the issue easily

[true birch]

No whitelist here

I mean I didn't toggle it on

And here is the setting json you requested

[dull rover]

huh... it should work just fine... I just swapped it with my current config.

You got darkreader right? can you make sure it's in auto mode and disabled for those websites as they got a dedicated dark theme?

[true birch]

I'm 100% sure

[dull rover]

Then I think it might be that bug.... try clearing browser cache or startup cache and starting again once or twice. What color is the page when not transparent?

[true birch]

I'll try it... the color is black

I mean the pages original color

here is a example for the zen homepage

[dull rover]

ohhh... happens even in light mode I assume

[alpine briar]

i forked firefox.

[dull rover]

Dam W

[true birch]

Huhhh...

I double and triple checked, cache cleaning did worked it seems

[dull rover]

yeah I have noticed this started happening recently... but there's no valid reason... it just works again after a while... that's where I was confused and thought it might eb just another ff thing

[true birch]

Believe me I have NO IDEA what went wrong here... I follow every step as usual, also I memorised it by the time 😁

But thank you for your help 😊 also if I have the same problem now I know what to do 😊

[dull rover]

Yeah... I am thinking about making the instructions clear and using the addon easier... if I get to it, will add this to instructions... currently figuring out what's the easiest way to make this whitelist blacklist thing foolproof and understandable with a one drop down or so

[true birch]

Ohh and another thing

Not a biggie, but it keeps bugging me for a while 😁

I have a slight problem with the youtube page when zen internet turned on

[dull rover]

sup?

[true birch]

I do not know the issue is there at your side...

But on my side

When a reload the page ( like Ctrl + R ) and scroll down the page, the contents are added nicely

But...

When I when i click on the youtube logo, to refresh the page

This happenes

[dull rover]

Yeap... Us peeps mostly notice it because we don't have the internet to instantly load the videos... the reason is, the lack of Shorts 😁

With the distraction free feed option, I nuked the shorts section from the feed, and also, with the fix ugly layout setting, I fixed the mess YouTube did recently making thumbnails big.. so even we can see 5 in a row, YT still thinks as there's only 3 videos per row so it loads them in that order.

Also, since shorts section is also gone, there's a delay loading the rest of the videos below that shorts section.

[true birch]

Ahaaaaa... I get it, but it seem this got stuck at my side 😅

And only when I click on the youtube logo te refresh the page

Oh and BTW.. I use your extension becase you can do what most billion dollar companies cannot do... Fix that damn UI

[dull rover]

there is also a firefox bug where the page load abruptly stop for no reason.... I hate that one...

[true birch]

Is that bug consitent? Becuase in this case it is for me

[dull rover]

Also does darkreader... what billion dollar companies can't do... add a light-dark property so we got a dam dark theme LOL

[dull rover]

if it happens, it stays for me for like 4-5 reloads.. but then fixes tho

[true birch]

Hm is seems that I have to live with this until they fix this... thanks for the heads up 😊

[dull rover]

np

[dull rover]

Some sneak peak into my current setup :3

[vast sage]

How to do the one in windows?

I mean the second image

I liked it

I wanna see how to do it

[mystic arch]

https://www.sameerasw.com/zen if you haven't already, plus there is the browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser setting in about:config that you need to enable

[pine storm]

Bro got Zen on Windows!

•

[dull rover]

Basically my firefox setup.
https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/blob/main/firefox/

[dull rover]

Well, can't use Zen on work device so might as well rice what I can there

[pine storm]

@dull rover https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1m0wa0c/comment/n3e7i0j/?utm_name=web3xcss

[dull rover]

ye, I haven't seen anyone achieve transparency with it yet. Hence I even mentioned in the guide that it might not be possible.

[pine storm]

@dull rover This is mr Zemflow's theme on Windows 10.

Eh wait, this doesn't reflects much transparency. Lemme look for another pic from him.

[dull rover]

ye

[pine storm]

Yup, this is it. See the sharp edges on top and bottom side of window.

[dull rover]

huh... but there's no instructions on Zemini readme either.. it says only for 11 with the mfe guide and that's all. I thought this was done with the wallpaper background blur option which I think made by the same dew iirc

[pine storm]

I have personally helped two Windows 10 people achieve transparency with Zen. 😭

[dull rover]

IDK, I had the same instructions but only got further questions on it's not doing anything. I thought might have been an older win10 build or so which was possible

[pine storm]

Did you give a particular CSS as well along with it? That particular CSS is essential for transparency to work on 10.

[dull rover]

I do not remember, I doubt.

[pine storm]

#sidebar-box,
#bookmarksPanel.sidebar-panel,
#sidebar-header,
#history-panel,
html,
#header {
  background-color: transparent !important;
  border: none !important;
  box-shadow: none !important;
}```
Add this code here for directing Windows 10 users to get transparency.

[cloud quartz]

i have the same wallpaper on my phone 😭

[dull rover]

Ohhh will do .. DWM is still required right?

[dull rover]

Unsplash?

[pine storm]

yup.

[cloud quartz]

yep

[pure barn]

what happend to Compact transparent sidebar type push it not working

@dull rover

[dull rover]

Your other mods might be conflicting... not sure which tho... Tried just with transparent zen?

[pine storm]

He has Nubulu. Can you see if push/mask of compact sidebar feature is compatible with Nubulu? If you have Sine, it'll be very easy!

[dull rover]

ye, gonna test now

Works just fine here

Well, except that nebula adds a bg to the compact sidebar by default but I think there's a way to voerride it?

[pine storm]

There is a checkbox in mod settings odf Nubulu.

[dull rover]

which did not take effect for me for some reason

[pine storm]

Hmm, so that must be @pure barn issue. He wanted transparency, but couldn't get it with this mask/push enabled.

[dull rover]

so to confirm it did not push or mask either? apart from that transparency issue?

[pine storm]

It did push/mask, but transparency which was there earlier isn't there anymore.

[dull rover]

aha... lemme check what was causing it

[dull rover]

Found the culprit

IG this always been a bug? Nebula adds that background behind the sidebar by default ... That is to keep blur even when web content is transparent. But I'm not even using backdrop blur since I either mask or move it out of the way and just show the user the blur the window has by itself. So these are 2 approaches from both mods that conflict.

But further thinking, IDK if there's anything that I can do by my end since I do blur in a complete opposite way... what would be nice is to have a toggle from Nebula to disable this fallback background element behind if the user prefer this method to use transparency.

[pine storm]

The said toggle to disable pseudo bg for sidebar does exist, but THE DESTROYER said it still doesn't work.

You can find toggle in Nubulu mod settings.

[dull rover]

Isn't that toggle is there to make the sidebar transparent? because that works with blur... but it's just my method of showing blur there actually doesn't blur anything.. .so I don't need a pseudo element... in fact, having one breaks like this...

That toggle did nothing for me... maybe I need to re-open?

[pine storm]

Eh, it isn't even working as expected on Windows!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/pahv7nc9awr45iwy8zt1m/explorer_MNVwdfQjwU.mp4?rlkey=edt47ejj71bhcfeka4y9nwz4c&dl=0

•

[dull rover]

mask and push works... you can see it through the gaps.

but both these effects aren't meant to be used together.... because mine depends on not having the website behind the sidebar and nebula does what we actually expect and needs the website behind it to blur

[pine storm]

Ooh! So Mask/Push Sidebar of Transparent Zen ∉ Nubulu ...

[dull rover]

yeah.... you can use nebula's implementation with Transparent Zen. But not the other way around. Only way it could be allowed is if there was a way to disable the nebula's implementation entirely... a "default" setting.

[pure barn]

Yeah without nebula it works so nebula is the problem

[pure barn]

So meaning nebula have to fix it or is there a way to fix it

[dull rover]

it's not really a fix that's necessary... Just need a toggle or something in Nebula that can disable it's sidebar transparency feature and it's changes fully to default. Then this will work with no issues.

[dull rover]

Zen Internet v2.6.2 Website mapping!

• Now you can use the css-mapping.json to map existing styles to more than one website reducing the needed css and also helping maintaining styles.
• Mapped styles are now displayed in the pop-up with a tab with the original style.
• Website css and mapping now have expandable headers in advanced settings.

This is more of a relief for the contributors to make it easier for managing themes. And there might be a user facing feature coming allowing them to manually map websites which will be very useful for self hosted instances and such.

[tall vault]

is the github theme broken?

[dull rover]

turn off/ skip darkreader for the website, github got a dedicated dark theme.

[pure barn]

@sullen flume pls look on this

give us an option to turn off side bar implementation of nebula ngl your implementation of side bar is kinda thrash for me

[dull rover]

I think it might depend on system resources as it uses real blur and if there was a video on the page, that blur can cause serious hits

but from my testing, it was rather smooth

[pure barn]

lol i fixed it just deleted some code in nebula side bar and got it working

tho idk care about performance because i am using push so it only have to render the wallpaper

[dull rover]

ohhh good to know. might get overridden after nebula updates but not sure.

[dull rover]

Zen Internet v2.7.0 A lot of under the hood and ease of access features

• Modify features in advanced settings page by GeorgeSedhom0
• Features can have descriptions! (Hover over features which turns the cursor to ?. I'll be working on adding descriptions to most common features)
• You can now add custom website mapping to existing styles. Great for self hosted and local websites.
• Fix an initial use bug with cache being empty.
• Fetch mapping during setup.

[pine storm]

@dull rover Idk how to hide the dock. 😭

[dull rover]

I think it was not possible back then as doing that started popping up the taskbar as well which was the problem.

[topaz ingot]

can i make the wallpaper more bright

[dull rover]

Is this acrylic? try adjusting the contrast of the zen theme. or in transparent zen mod settings, try adjusting a custom color

you can also give mica for everyone a try too but it's a 3rd party application

[vast sage]

@dull rover Give this a try: #1396489961049686148 message

[topaz ingot]

thx it worked

[dull rover]

Zen is smoooooth now

[pine storm]

@dull rover How to get this new thing???

As far as I remember, I didn't set anything for it...

😭

Nothing is there in More options.

[dull rover]

errmmmm... you didn't add 2FA to github? Check your mails first if there were some activity int he account regarding login or so , if someone accessed your account

you sure not suing a 2FA app or SMS for auth?

[pine storm]

suing? i didn't sue anyone. 😭

[pine storm]

Ooh, fixed it with Authenticator app. Apparently I have to figure out myself that 2FA code will appear on my app lol.

[dull rover]

I hate that my left hand is sometimes faster than right when typing... yes .. weird

[dull rover]

ye, I prefer proton pass as it's synced and also the browser extension is good for 2fa (only 3) and paskeys. but up to you. Just make sure you don't loose access to the 2FA

[pine storm]

Support for Authenticator got shifted to Edge. Given I run Edge side-by-side for sites incompatible with Gecko (on both Windows and Android), all my saved info will be available everywhere.

[dull rover]

ohhhh I forgot microsoft did that dirty recenty

at least it's synced now unlike before

[pine storm]

dirty? why? ig it's a smart move to increase their browser market share, isn't it?

Despite MV3, Chrome is still on top. 😞

So many illiterate users.

[dull rover]

yeah that, but if the user did not use edge, then it's a hassle to move things over to another one as export options not that great.

[pine storm]

@dull rover Btw did you see the new YT design on ChromeOS?

Idk why google copying liquid glass

[dull rover]

of ChromeOS?

[pine storm]

liquid glass ui type shi...
at least with better contrast

Might further pick other platforms to introduce this design to.

[dull rover]

lol... no .. it's been out for sooo long... even months before liquid glass... it's part of the Material expressive design. they started A/B testing on the youtube's birthday a few months back. But all peeps now see any kind of functional frosted glass as liquid glass 🤷

[dull rover]

afaik, this is a similar player they added a while ago in drive

[pine storm]

Ooh, someone in #general said this is all new design from Google.

[pine storm]

You're on light mode, I got flashbanged.

[dull rover]

nah... this is the google drive player even from before.

[dull rover]

hehe... back to light theme during day since zen fixed it :3

[vagrant marten]

i need to mix white colortint for text to be clear on sidebar in lightmode

[dull rover]

hardcoded color values? or this happens even with light-dark ?

[vagrant marten]

color mix with zen primary color

[dull rover]

ohhh right... the text color is correct. the bg need to be lighter... I see.... technically we can use light-dark and then two variants of color mix inside right? but maybe not possible if we use background types

[vagrant marten]

but it would get dark on dark colors if i use text-color

which i didnt want

[dull rover]

ohhh I see.... there should be a workaround :3

[vagrant marten]

yea i want to condition it like if want some style only when light color are acivated only solution i see is with js to constantly check value of text-color

[dull rover]

or wait 10 years till ff finally add modern css support for browser styling 💀

[vagrant marten]

css is only usp of ff still they not on latest is crazy

[dull rover]

yeap.. chrome canary added if conditions I think. will take a decade till ff adds it to website support and another decade to get them on browser UI Still before GTA VI

[tall vault]

any chance for grok on zen zero?

transparency?

[pine storm]

DO you mean there is no transparency on Grok?

[tall vault]

yes

wtf

[pine storm]

what?

[tall vault]

you deleted it

[dull rover]

I think it should work just fine

Also

Some YT TV stuff was added if anyone uses that workaround

[tall vault]

it was dark reader lol

[dull rover]

ahh sounds about right

[ebon garnet]

does the transparent zen work on firefox?

or i should say the zen interenet extension

[dull rover]

The extension works just fine. Since we can't use the zen mods there, you will have to make ff transparent first but I do have a dedicated firefox theme if you are interested. Might need some additional flags on top of it that I can't recall. It's from my work PC setup.

https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/tree/main/firefox

[rustic zodiac]

youtube side menu is not working after the update

[ebon garnet]

like all the other css stuff seems to be working ok, but the webpage isnt transparent

[rustic zodiac]

turn off dark reader

[ebon garnet]

did that too

also this is on firefox

not zen

so idk if it his zen interent extension will work lol

[topaz ingot]

hey is there a way to make the sidebar transparent but not full transparent not like black

[pine storm]

Use Transparent Zen mod.

There enable options for sidebar in mod settings.

options related to Mask/Push transparency.

[topaz ingot]

didnt work

[pine storm]

Which OS?

[topaz ingot]

windows

[dull rover]

just ff or any website?

[dull rover]

I think something else is breaking that mod. any custom CSS or themes?

[topaz ingot]

i only have nebula

[dull rover]

ooo I remember the issue, happened while fixing some other issue, will fix tonight in a couple of hrs 🙂

[dull rover]

yeah unfortunately nebular breaks the custom transparent sidebar workarounds in Transparent Zen 😭

[ebon garnet]

so do you notice how the better search works?

and how youtubes layout for zen internet works

but its not transparent

since i can install transparent zen like i can from the zen mod store on fire fox

i was wondering if there was css that would allow for it to work

like something that i could put in my userchrome

[dull rover]

Yeap, this:
https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/tree/main/firefox

it's my personal firefox userChrome made for Windows. might not be polished as zen but kinda works. You will need to enable flags manually in about:config.

[pine storm]

@dull rover Ig you got some more browser pages to make transparent!!!

[dull rover]

the list is surprisingly short compared to Chrome LOL

Haven't completed an issue or a request in a week I think LOL

[dense tree]

You bought mdf?

[pine storm]

I got it free on purchasing Wallpaper Engine.

[dense tree]

What the fuck

How does that work 😭

[tall vault]

@dull rover sorry for the ping- i think zen internet extension causes some weird delays when rendering the webpage - the websites i open stay blurry for a good second before opening fully. in comparison to having the extension off, websites load quite fast

[pine storm]

I made my first purchase in Steam.

That's why.

[dull rover]

are you sue it's the extension? i don't add blur usually.. If you are using Nebula, by default nebula blurs the page till the loading is completed which you can adjust.

[swift totem]

There is also a bug with Zen Internet extension in docs.google.com to be more specific in Sheets, if you try to paste (CTRL+V) any text into a cell - document crashes and reloads, it doesn't happen with extension disabled

[tall vault]

Maybe it was nebula? I tested via incognito and different profiles as well. Where in the config could I disable that to confirm?

[topaz ingot]

hey can you fix this

[dull rover]

oh .. that is weird... Also docs is very hard to deal with as it got iframes.. but I will look into it.. might take a while tho as I'm a bit busy these days.

[dull rover]

I can't recall what config to be exact.. might need to check the readme

[dull rover]

I still haven't gottent his.. as google AB test features to some users... I will try tho ... one diff pc or so

[topaz ingot]

hey can i make dwmblur that when press out of the browser it stops making it gray

[pine storm]

It does that by default.

[strange stratus]

Hey there, I'm new to Linux Mint Cinnamon and I was trying to make my Zen browser transparent, but for some reason it's 100% transparent and I can't seem to add any blur or to reduce the transparency effect. Can someone help me with that, please?

This is my view 🙁

[dull rover]

I am not sure how to get blur on your distro... Probably need some sort of an extensionat a little hit on resource usage I think

Hope someone knows a way 🙂

[strange stratus]

Thanks man❤️

[rustic zodiac]

Hey! The Full Details Link Is Down

https://youtu.be/qeYVfrpf8IY?si=E_48UTHL9ocDEw1p

[dull rover]

Ohhh it was quite old... Here's the link
https://sameerasw.notion.site/PC-setup-156b74e4ab064defaa3d7af180d4f76f?pvs=74

[pine storm]

@dull rover Ay bro you're so less online these days!

[dull rover]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-sleep-insomnia-sad-and-gif-21579300

Hehe... Less online "here"

[pine storm]

tf is ts

literal skinwalker

[dull rover]

Will be hopefully back with folders... Been a bit away from css into Swift 😁

[pine storm]

Google is suffering these days...

with transparency.

Check GH @dull rover 😁

[dull rover]

I saw a week ago or so but none of my accounts got that update yet... I hate AB changes from google... Will try on a diff browser soon so at least I know the css for it.

[pine storm]

Try on your Work PC if possible.

[dull rover]

No matter what, transparency is a thing I'm adding from now on 😁

[dull rover]

ye that's what been using during weekend

[pine storm]

Did you try Android 16?

[dull rover]

ooo did I 😁 been on developer preview and then beta since day 1... now on QPR beta which is sooo good...

[pine storm]

As I've heard, now transparency is also there in it, right?

Like it was all opaque by default previously.

[dull rover]

yeah... a usable transparency...

[dull rover]

yah, previous design was kinda flat... as it ever been for material design but this year, some spice is coming finally

Still my fav thins are there the dynamic material you colors.. also love the new haptics

[pine storm]

I hope they introduce acrylic ✨

[dull rover]

I don't think it would fit phones... as acylic got a lot of blur radius so it looks better on larger elements like window backgrounds...

[pine storm]

Oh right, then Fluent would fit it Ig.

The images I saw, the blur isn't very strong... Need something like Fluent effect.

[dull rover]

And def not liquid as it doesn't have enough blur 😁

Also this is Pixels.. other OEM can decide how they want

[rapid mural]

is it normal that on the youtube all titles are black and left bar icons also black?

._.

[rapid mural]

I have this problem on all google stuff example google drive, yt and gmail

nvm fixed it turns out I have to change manually what theme google sites use -_-

[dull rover]

no... tried reloading the page?

[dull rover]

yeah... google themes are just bad

[dull rover]

I just got one change in images search, fixed

[untold crane]

#zeneral message
Anyone has any idea?
transparency doesn't work when opening app in full space on macos

[pure barn]

sorry to ask whats this a concept or app?

[dull rover]

yeah, unfortunately that is a system limitation we can not override... You may notice that in full screen mode, spaces does not have a wallpaper.. so there is no transparency. That space only holds the app itself.

Instead what I do is hide all UI clutter like dock and menubar and make Zen fill the screen without borders... done!

[untold crane]

I do have everything hidden and only show when hover

but I am accustomed to full screen cuz I hate it going to new space when I full screen a yt video

[dull rover]

it's pretty much an app currently in beta...

Think of having iPhone + mac continuity features with an android... it's trying to close that gap 🙂

[untold crane]

off topic, btw I just tried this a few hours ago
Is screen mirroring plus feature?
also what to do when adb disconnects?

[untold crane]

is there a way to modify this though?

[dull rover]

hehe.. allow me to introduce "Zen View"

With ZenInternet, in theatre mode, it fills the window 🙂

[dull rover]

for now, screen mirroring is + but I am planning to move it to free as more features gets added... at least the regular screen mirroring if not the app mirror feature. still in beta so not many features were there to balance it.

Adb is kidna fiddly with wireless as with each wifi switch the port changes.. but it will work as long as debugging is connected... I am using scrcpy so it relies on adb. if we disable while running, the screen will close.

[dull rover]

kinda yes.. also there's an addon in ff store named "Windowed" which allows to fit pretty much any window to the window with the regular full screen button or the gesture

[untold crane]

the theater mode thing in zen internet is good enough for me

but yeah need to get adjusted to new shortcut of T instead of F lol

[dull rover]

ye.. took me a while to get my muscle memory overridden

[untold crane]

gotta hate macos for these idiotic features that can't be changed

[dull rover]

IKRRRR

[dense tree]

Woah whats this

Looks hella clean

[untold crane]

btw if you have a notched macbook, any idea how do I push the app behind the notch as well in theater mode?

even on hiding menu bar, the app doesn't go beyond the bottom of the notch

[dull rover]

Android + mac = eternal peace, until i get sued for using a random TM word LOL

[dull rover]

Unfortunately I got the early M1 Air... no notches. If that is the case, that's actually kinda frustrating... I always like gettign the most out of my display space and this would have been so good.

[untold crane]

yeah lol
Wasted screen real estate hurts

[untold crane]

why is there a black border to the side arghhh

[pure barn]

Made by you? , tbh I was a similar app for windows too because kde connect has a awful design, and no good alternative is there except i think Sefirah but It's buggy 😭

[dull rover]

You got menubar visible. So it is taking space so the video can not fit the actual 16:9 ratio of the display. Since the video fits the window not fills.

[dull rover]

ye... I made it for the same reason so I wanted a native solution. And also KDE connect being pretty much broken on ARM macs.

[untold crane]

Damn this macos 😭

[dull rover]

Make it auto hide 😁

[untold crane]

yeah but even then the app wouldn't take up the notch area right
It'll still be restricted to same height

[pure barn]

so a windows version?

ofc you will have to make x86 and arm

[dull rover]

not in the near future as I don't even got a windows pc for dev...

[dull rover]

dam...

[pine storm]

@dull rover Bro is quite busy to come online it seems.

[dull rover]

Sup 👀
Not very active on Discord much... But reddit, always LOL

[analog oyster]

Is there a way to make the settings page transparent too?

[pine storm]

enable transparent configs and restart to get it

[analog oyster]

These are my configs, but it still doesn't make settings transparent

[pine storm]

Which OS?

[analog oyster]

MacOS

[pine storm]

Search for "mac" and look for transparency related config and enable it.

[analog oyster]

I do not see any transparency related zen configs with "mac"

[pine storm]

@dull rover owns an iMac.
When he comes online, he'll help you with precise settings.

[analog oyster]

Thank you! I appreciate it

[dull rover]

You need userContent.css for any system pages to be transparent. I still do not have that on Sine but you can manually add to your userContent.css from here : https://github.com/sameerasw/ZenZero/blob/main/userContent.css

[analog oyster]

Sorry if I've done this wrong, but I put the userContent.css file in the transparent zen sine mod folder, restarted zen, and it did not change anything.

[tight junco]

@dull rover why not make the webview darker

so it's readable

it's still transparent

but readable

e.g.

[dull rover]

usually it goes in the chrome dir

[dull rover]

there is an option that flips the light tint to a darker tint in Zen, but I guess it's not dark enough (or light enough in light theme)... Actually a good thing to add is an option to let the users customize the amount... might add soon... In the past it wasn't ideal as that might have not matched the website's dark/light mode but now with per space theming, it should work 🙂

Woah... been a while since I last saw a memory leak... But I think this was a Figma + Firefox thing

[analog oyster]

I'm not sure why it's still not working. I put it in the chrome folder and nothing :/

[dull rover]

I've had difficulties getting it to work too... Userchrome works fine but usercontent needs some brute force.. usually takes me like 5-10 restarts and also a couple startup cache cleans...

Also try to manually import it in the live editor...

[analog oyster]

I figured it out! I guess I needed toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets set to true

[dull rover]

ohhh ye... I thought you had tweaks going on... forgot Sine doesn't need it

[pine storm]

Bro, use Auto Tab Discard Addon

[dull rover]

ofc I use it, this was a memory leak in the Figma tab... I only got 8Gigs of memory so somehow survived :3

[pine storm]

8???
How does bro survive!

[dull rover]

Unified memory... thankfully mac handles that... Otherwise xcode, android studio and all are not even possible to try

LOL my Window Manager is leaking memory too No way it's using 10x memory as usual

[hearty ivy]

@dull rover Is there anyway to deal with accessibility like this site? I mean that when we r reading some articles, the thing is the blur or mica background (a darker one) with the default black font color would bother me a lot .anyway to switch to white or sth else?

[dull rover]

if the website lacks a dark theme (even in 2025 ), only option is Darkreader, it should fix text contrast... might break overlays

[alpine briar]

what if you have a wallpaper that goes from light to dark on each side?

i hate that browsers don't have this contrast feature (even though it would probably decrease performance, it would still be worth it for those who will accept that drawback)

[dull rover]

I think the only limitations would be setup and then mainly performance. Like even if I use the empty tab image with Transparent Zen with a local file, Sometimes I still can see it rendering top to bottom... maybe my device is slow but not a pleasant experience. But I'm sure there should be workarounds

[alpine briar]

i'd be interested to try it out myself if you'd like, just to test the performance, if you still have it.

[dull rover]

Might try with a a userchrome... prolly not soon as I'm packing things for a potential device upgrade soon ... woooooooo!

Then i can run Zen smoothly again

[dull rover]

Why google has to break their theme once a week? fixed some mroe bugs

[pine storm]

Yeah, YT broke as well yesterday.

[dull rover]

yt? Haven't viside in 2 days I think lol.. lemme check

seems to be fine so far

[pine storm]

Open Watch later.

[dull rover]

done, fixed the watch later sort thingy

Also, Is there anyone here with a 24GB ram on M3, M4 or so? What do you use it, and is it an overkill for you than 16GB? Just curious

[dull rover]

Wait a min, Firefox PWA are awesome... possible on Zen too?

browser.taskbarTabs.enabled

[wraith lake]

Hi guys, I already posted a question about this in the #zeneral chat but I just wanted to post it here just in case as I am using @dull rover css and am not sure if it has to do anything with the css or the recent updates. anyways the problem is that I have my continue where you left off and open previous tabs checked. However, since yesterday,everytime I close and open the browser it opens up completely new and all my old tabs are lost.

[dull rover]

I don't think zeninternet causes that as I barely updated in the recent weeks... but very well could be a zen issue tho.. try clearing startup cache.

[visual atlas]

is there a transparency guide for macos

[dull rover]

https://www.sameerasw.com/zen

Should work.

[visual atlas]

where does it talk about sine

like is this the most transparency i can get for macos:

for the sidebar

[dull rover]

I have not added sine support. But, you can still import the transparent zen mod via the zen market or within sine using the import url.
https://github.com/sameerasw/zen-themes/tree/main/TransparentZen

[dull rover]

you can adjust, go to about:config and then search for "material" then lower that number. Also your zen theme, mod themes can affect that transparency too

[visual atlas]

omg material at 0 looks so much better

is that what u have

also is the zen internet extension to apply styling on the sites themselves?

[dull rover]

nah... I keep at 3 most of the time as lower makes the text contrast lower than readable. It does get adjusted each day as I change my wallpaper everyday or so

[dull rover]

yeap

[visual atlas]

ok sounds good also random question what is ur zen accent color at

[dull rover]

zen theme, no colors... no gradients.. nothing... I think the accent color changes with system but not sure... I hardly keep any UI visible so did not notice much

[visual atlas]

ok i was trying to use ur userChrome.css but when i paste it in my userChrome.css the whole sidebar disappears

[dull rover]

For zen zero? or did you try the firefox one?

In zenzero, you need all the other folders in the chrome directory too
Also if you tried it, might be because I don't ever use the compact sidebar on hover so I disabled it. Either I full immerse or keep the sidebar visible... auto hover stuff are a distraction for me. there should be a css snippet there mentioning to remove if you do not need that behavior

[visual atlas]

my internet or something is what the repo was called

[dull rover]

ohhh the userChrome in there is for firefox as it's in the firefox directory. the zenzero css is here : https://github.com/sameerasw/ZenZero

[buoyant summit]

hey i installed the transparent zen and was checking out the various features, and i noticed that even when unchecking the "remove the shadow around the webpage" the shadow is not returning...

[stray carbon]

I installed Zen Internet addon but not sure why I am getting weird transparency like these... while I already have dark mode enabled natively with Discord and Youtube

How to keep the dark mode working properly. The issue is with transparency only... If I disable transparency module from CSS, other styling is working correctly. How to resolve this?

[pine storm]

Enable browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser.

[stray carbon]

Thank you @pine storm It worked partially. When I enabled it .. Youtube looks Grey like this but not completely dark. But Slack still looks white as shown above. ::

Also, even when I disabled browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser , I am still seeing the same grey background with Youtube

[pine storm]

You need to enable it, and also what OS you got?

[dull rover]

the shadow is there right?

[dull rover]

might be another mod or a theme breaking transparency.. or your zen theme or the OS itself...confirm if it's only youtube thing or happens on any website

[wraith lake]

yes, so apparently it was just because I had zen open in another desktop on my pc

but now I lost all my tabs
😭

[dull rover]

ohhh... well, i never use multiple windows and because of these stuff, polly will nvr do

[wraith lake]

yep wont do it again

lesson learnt

[steel finch]

Hello, as a web developer, how can I make my website colors support transparency, for users of Zen Browser with TransparentZen?

I made a stylus theme for a specific website, and someone told me that it doesnt work well with their transparent zen setup, so i was wondering how to fix that

[dull rover]

Hi! basically this section should help... especially since you know of the structure of the website
https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet?tab=readme-ov-file#contributing-styles

[rustic zodiac]

Zen+Translucent Windows=🔥🔥

[swift totem]

Looks great, mind sharing your code for Translucent Windows mode?

[neon badge]

does Zen even appear in that screenshot besides the taskbar icon

[dull rover]

Also love dat wallpaper... It's not often I use a wallpaper for more than 1 day

[swift totem]

Do you have any kind of themes installed like Rectify 11? Cause it doesn't work like that out of the box

Also whats ur windows version?

[rustic zodiac]

no idont have rectify 11,i only using dwmblurglass and windhawk (windows 11 24H2)

[topaz ingot]

hey love your transparent zen but can you fix this

[dull rover]

AI mods... that's luxury for me.. unfortunately someone will need to contribute that as I don't have such features in my region 😭

[prime cave]

How do you even manipulate the websites element???

[dull rover]

Power of css 😁

So basically I create a new css stylesheet per each website which then gets injected to the page via the zen internet addon . I write the css to remove bg colors and such so they get applied to the actual page at runtime 🙂

[prime cave]

Hmmm

[dull rover]

hmmmmmmmm

we cookin again?

[pine storm]

Bro styled folders the moment it dropped. 🗿

[dull rover]

more like had to do cus ZenZero had some issues with it

Also got a new lil beast so no need to close zen once a day for running out of memory (unless it leaks)

battery life still mediocre but fine 🙂

[pine storm]

You were supposed to get Windows.

[dull rover]

hell nah.. never going back.. I might run a vm to build apps on windows... (mayyybe) 😁

[pine storm]

Idk what's so cool with Mac? My younger sister has Mac Book Pro and I have used it so long, yet I just don't feel the way it feels like using Windows.
Like I see how everything feels a little bit faster on Mac, and you get better version of Raycast and Arc as well, but the freedom isn't there...

[alpine briar]

ayo, can u fix nebula folders?

jadp is offline and i need ppl to switch to my fork so i can maintain it.

[tight junco]

why and how does nebula even manage to change folders

[alpine briar]

wym?

[tight junco]

why specifically target folders

instead of groups

[tight junco]

tab-group != zen-fodler lol

he predicted

[alpine briar]

nothing is wrong with them, just the nebula tab background doesn't get applied to the folder when hovering it.

[tight junco]

mb I was thinking of ATG

[dull rover]

I think there is one thing shared from groups that might be conflicting... which I had to fix on my personal theme after update.. that was all

[alpine briar]

oh, he wanted folders sooner so he made groups do it instead, now he has to implement the actual groups instead.

[pine storm]

Wrong reply

[dull rover]

For me, I only have to carry half the weight, dead silent, no need to clean dust once 3 months (not easy to keep clean with a fan here), also the suuuper high density display which makes me prefer 13" over 15", thin-ness

all that and the best performance without even needing to be plugged in, 15hrs of battery (20+ if with safari)

pretty much unlimited memory with fast swap (no longer needed for me)

one type-c/ thunderbolt cable for everything

even without a fan, it's healthy to be used on lap and to have kids than the "business" laptop with windows at home

there are absurdly priced software but most of the time, there's a good foss app as an alternative, pretty much for any app, there are options.

so easy to develop for (swiftUI <3)

somehow worked wayyy better with Android than any of my previous windows devices I had

no or very minimal AI bloatware

hard to break, intentionally or not

productivity tools,

could think of things all day.. but all of that depends on use case

[pine storm]

Oh, I see you're a dev, so it's normal for you to prefer mac over windows.

I agree on that.

[dull rover]

yeap... I no longer game... which was the thing thatw as keeping me there before.. and my bank account...

[pine storm]

But for best performance, which is what I need (with gaming and variety of software availablity) windows js better for me.

[dull rover]

yeap.... that is understandable

[visual atlas]

how do u have a transparent menu bar