#Longbow, Yew and Crossbow tests

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vestal scroll
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I've been testing the Longbow, Yew Bow and the Crossbow (got 10str 9 agi 10 archery). I really like the balance on the Longbow. The draw weight of 150lbs is very reasonable, especially looking into chronicles from the medieval period. 6STR and 7 Agi requirements make sense now vs the crossbow. I would suggest 8STR assuming that 180lbs draw weight bow would be an absolute limit, those could be 10STR req.

Aiming with the longbow makes sense; 1-2sec and it starts deviating, it also takes longer to pull! Great!

On the other hand, the Yew bow has no STR req. as of yet? The aiming deviation feels the same as with the longbow. It doesn't make sense. Holding/lifting/pulling weights way under your maximum is easy. The more STR vs req. STR of the bow, the less deviation there should be while holding the aim.

Than there are the crossbows, STR req. seem very reasonable for the draw weights. The aim deviation does not. It should be it's party piece... long to load, easy to aim. Right now at 10 archery it feels a bit like having Parkinson's disease.

Suggestion I would have:
Why not to use archery skill and str instead of STR and AGI? AGI doesn't even have a single line saying anything about shooting.

It would be great to introduce Fatigue mechanics where every consecutive shot would be harder and harder to pull. Just like with weight lifting at gym, first lift is easy, last one is impossible. Wait 10 minutes and can lift again....

@rotund helm

dry patrol
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It used to be 8 str and 8 dex for longbow and devs changed it because that configuration made no sense in comparison to crossbow, which requires both hands and stationary reload (also has 2x damage). Fatigue effect sounds good on paper but during normal gameplay it would be annoying af to the point someone removes it with mod. There is already a stamina system that drains after each shot.

vestal scroll
# dry patrol It used to be 8 str and 8 dex for longbow and devs changed it because that confi...

Hand drawn crossbows were much slower and weaker in terms of power and output. Longbow was a king of ranged weapons on the battlefield, however it required years of training unlike a crossbow. I am not talking about different stamina system to the one that we had for a short while, I didn't like that much either. More like an exhaustion system that would take str. requirements of the bow, your own strength, maybe food. Basically, the system would check how many shots did we take over certain period of time. Let's stick with a longbow. At the moment it takes about 4 sec to draw it. Why don't we make it 2sec like the other bows, but than for every shot fired the system would extend the draw time. +0.3s for every next shot. Basically stack penalty with a cool down of let's say 60 sec per stack, and max draw time of 6 sec. At the beginning of the battle or hunting it would allow to put out a couple of fast shots, and it would gradually become slower.

dry patrol
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it got changed for a reason

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realism limits the game and makes the gameplay suffer

vestal scroll
dry patrol
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you are tagging me here

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your whole post is a spam

frozen flower
# dry patrol realism limits the game and makes the gameplay suffer

Doesn't really make the gameplay suffer. Specially if the game has mod support. If you don't prefer realism then look for a mod to make the game easier for you. If the devs take a suggestion from the community then clearly it's something they think is a good addition to the game or may have been a plan in the chute that hasn't been implemented yet

dry patrol
frozen flower
dry patrol
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ehhhhhhh

frozen flower
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Look for a mod to make the game less realistic for you. I'm sure you will enjoy the game then

dry patrol
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im playing this game for a longer time than you ever will 😂

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stop suggesting stupid ideas its that simple

frozen flower
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I don't compare gameplay to knowledge. Someone with no intellect can look at a book for 10 hours and learn nothing.

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While someone with some knowledge can look at a book for an hour and learn everything it has to offer. Time in is not a good scale of knowledge

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If you don't like something don't comment, it's that simple.

dry patrol
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I will comment and criticise stupid suggestions that make the game worse

frozen flower
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Don't get upset when people think opposite of you then

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Also that is only from your perspective not the communities

dry patrol
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then you will have to deal with an internal pain of realizing that based on community feedback and devs opinion it was changed to the point we are now, and its a sweet spot

frozen flower
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No internal pain as I understand what a suggestion is

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Clearly you do not

dry patrol
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and im making sure you realize it was changed because people didnt like it

frozen flower
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Nothing to realize other than you are someone who will hate on other peoples views to make youreself feel better and that's honestly enough for me to just ignore your posts moving forward as they aren't critical comments or constructive in any way

dry patrol
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bla bla bla

frozen flower
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And you just prove a point. Thank you have a good one

dry patrol
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people like you ruin games

frozen flower
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For letting someone have the freedom to suggestion something and not belittle them for it doesn't ruin a game

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just like you have the right to suggest that what they did was good. I'm not saying it was or wasn't.

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So instead of trying to limit what people have a right to say maybe try not being self centered and only looking at what you want.

dry patrol
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freshly joined, 0 game knowledge, 0 information on community feedback, 0 view on the devs perspective and yet you spit some nonsense that I'm limiting people opinions

frozen flower
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Lol not freshly joined just don't talk much int he chat

dry patrol
frozen flower
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I actually enjoy the direction the game is going. before trying to assume something maybe think first?

dry patrol
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30th november + the clover icon

frozen flower
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Clover stays for a while while chatting and I've been in this discord before then

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You are only looking at the surface of my account that doesn't say anything about knowledge

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Only that you can take a screenshot

dry patrol
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I'm not limiting anyone opinion and suggestions only informing you that what you are suggesting got removed by devs because people didnt like it, deal with it