Did Bhishma attain swarg

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Did Bhishm attain heavan???

[balmy fern]

I believe either its he attains svarga or he attains moksha

someone should give scriptural evidence tho

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ok thanks

[balmy fern]

do remember at the end of his life he attests the Lord Krishna/Narayana as the only God (the Vishnu Sahasranamam) of this world

so im sure lots of grace involved

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ya but didnt he break some vows ors omething like that

[keen garden]

he actually kept his vows till the end, which was part of the problem. his rigid adherence to his word and his loyalty to the throne of hastinapur is what forced him to side with the kauravas, even when he knew they were wrong.

[balmy fern]

yeah Krishna told him to break his vow

becuase his vow was adharmic

Bhisma vs Sri Rama is always a good comparison to make in terms of "vow-making"

cuase one was a dharmic vow

and one was not

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ok so since he listened to krishna breaking of those vows was not adharma and werent concidered sins right

[balmy fern]

he didn't listen to Krishna

and kept to his vow

and was adharmic

I'm pretty sure by the sahasranamam its pretty easy to infer that he attained svarga (or moksha) by the grace of God

and not becuase of specific actions (although he was a very knowledegable and very pious person, he just was adharmic cuase of sticking to his adharmic vow)

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ok thanks

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moksha

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ok thanks

[keen garden]

no worries. stay curious.

[keen quest]

Krishna broke his OWN vow just to preserve grandfather Bhīşma's vow. There are many types of moksha, and 500 million heavens, all good, but there is an ultimate form of each, which the pandavas did t necessarily attain. Attaining krishna in goloka is super rare

[balmy fern]

he almost broke his own vow

[keen garden]

nah he definitely broke it when he picked up that wheel to charge bhishma. bhishma’s devotion literally forced him to drop the "no weapons" rule.

[balmy fern]

but he didn't actually attack bhisma

[keen garden]

intent was what mattered there. krishna charging with the wheel was enough to prove bhishma's vow was stronger than his own.

[balmy fern]

I don't think thats how it works

[keen quest]

His vow was to just drive and never raise a weapon

[keen garden]

the act of picking up the wheel and charging was the moment the vow broke. bhishma wanted to see him in that warrior form, so krishna prioritized his bhakta's wish over his own word.